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November 6th, 2012 at 7:58:51 PM permalink
Currently Intrade only has him the favorite in North Carolina, and every line is massive. Not sure what happened to Florida and Virginia.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:00:33 PM permalink
yeah, North Carolina is almost all counted now. Romney is going to win one swing state.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:04:55 PM permalink
CNN just called Wi for Obama and NC for Romney. Romney won't be getting 325+ lol Senate also stays Dem.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:09:24 PM permalink
That fat lady has been inhaling for a long time, but will sing any second.

Intrade equivalent: Obama -2717.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:12:26 PM permalink
Iowa goes to Obama but Obama is still three EVs short.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:12:57 PM permalink
Both at the presidential and senatorial level, this is looking an awful lot like what every pollster not named Scott Rasmussen predicted.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:12:58 PM permalink
Florida will be counting all night. The late votes are in blue areas.

No announcement until tomorrow. It is almost tomorrow here now at 11:12 PM
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:13:19 PM permalink
Iowa and NM just called. I can't wait to listen to Glenn Beck tomorrow morning. I wonder if he will off himself on air. I hope not, Glenn, Pat, and Stu make me giggle!
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:13:26 PM permalink
Ohio goes to Obama. Obama is re-elected.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:15:32 PM permalink
Fox News just called Ohio for Obama, and with it the election. Game over. Excuse me, please while I wipe the egg off my face. I was no where near the mark in my projections. Oh will, we'll try again in 2016.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:20:17 PM permalink
Fox News called it before CNN!!!
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:20:34 PM permalink
CNN just called Ohio and the election for Obama. Looks like a 334-204 win for Obama.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:20:42 PM permalink
What a friggin' pummeling, it's not even midnight for me!
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:21:30 PM permalink
My prop bet at +215 for Florida is the only open bet. +EV bet that I really did not think I would win :-)

Election over
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:22:51 PM permalink
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:23:10 PM permalink
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:23:21 PM permalink


Intrade equivalent = -33200 Obama.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:25:03 PM permalink
Oh Bunhilde! Your aria has never sounded so sweet.

Poor Karl Rove. He doesn't believe his own network's decision. It fun watching him flail on Fox.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:27:12 PM permalink
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:27:24 PM permalink
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:27:33 PM permalink
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:28:01 PM permalink
So, before I go to bed, I would ask that all who believe the country won't survive another 4 years of Obama, please go ahead and forward me all of your loot and swag. I will take good care of it until America is rebuilt. Thanks!!!

Disclaimer: Again, I did not vote, and still don't care who won. Won't make a difference in my day to day affairs. However, I do want to see the concession speeches from our far right members who just "knew" Romney would win by 500,000,000 votes!
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:29:39 PM permalink
So economy will have 4 more years in the can, just like expected.

On the upside, this should be cause for celebration for most everyone outside US.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:31:54 PM permalink
Interesting. Based on newest input from polling stations, Fox is going to have to withdraw its call. O and R only separated by fewer than 1,000 votes with 25% still out. Seems that Ohio is still up for grabs. Rove is peeved with Fox.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:32:51 PM permalink
Would have been in the can no matter who was elected. I wish the president had that kind of power. Alas, he doesn't.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:37:15 PM permalink
Fox Decision Desk stands by its call: Ohio--and the election--goes to Obama. Even with large numbers of votes still out, O has too much of a lead for R to overcome.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:38:13 PM permalink
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Would have been in the can no matter who was elected.


Well, that is so. Correction: will be burying its head deeper into the pit rather than grabbing the edges of the hole and struggling to pull up.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:41:28 PM permalink
Quote: avargov

Would have been in the can no matter who was elected. I wish the president had that kind of power. Alas, he doesn't.



Now that the election seems to be over, we have the real issues of huge debt and a lot of jobs going over seas.

Plus, we might have this Health Care "Tax"

Hopefully, the people here are sharp enough and work hard enough to figure out how to have a decent life style.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:42:14 PM permalink
Quote: P90

Well, that is so. Correction: will be burying its head deeper into the pit rather than grabbing the edges of the hole and struggling to pull up.



I agree. I can only hope that the Congress will now at least try to find some common ground and actually help the country. I fear this won't happen :-(
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:43:55 PM permalink
Where the hell are all the guys who were absolutely positive Romney would win?! FOX News won't offer much solace tonight.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:44:36 PM permalink
Nate Silver is not a guru. All he did was take all of the data that was available and presented the numbers wherever they fell. It looks like his methods, common sense as they are, were vindicated.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:46:49 PM permalink
Quote: avargov

I agree. I can only hope that the Congress will now at least try to find some common ground and actually help the country. I fear this won't happen :-(



Not popular to make the necessary change. D.C. has caused, and continues to cause, huge problems for the US.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:48:15 PM permalink
Pete....I couldn't agree more. And it is unfortunate. Of course, if Romney would have won, the necessary changes would not have come either.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:49:05 PM permalink
Krauthammer just called Romney a NorthEast Liberal. I love Republican infighting.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:52:09 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Nate Silver is not a guru. All he did was take all of the data that was available and presented the numbers wherever they fell. It looks like his methods, common sense as they are, were vindicated.



Oh, c'mon. That's not right. Nate has built a very intricate regression model to use polling and economic data as predictive tools.
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:54:46 PM permalink
Quote: avargov

Pete....I couldn't agree more. And it is unfortunate. Of course, if Romney would have won, the necessary changes would not have come either.



Yes. I said D.C. knowing all too well that I did not like either candidate for the US as a whole.

The only reason that I wanted Obama to win was a wager. I would have bet Romney if indicators pointed to him. Intrade was one indicator amongst many.

Forgetting the wager, the US has a rough road for half the population. Things change. Natural law.

Create your own luck...
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November 6th, 2012 at 8:57:13 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Where the hell are all the guys who were absolutely positive Romney would win?! FOX News won't offer much solace tonight.



While I wasn't absolutely positive, I did think he would win. And I was wrong. I believed a Romney administration would be better for the economy- but now we'll never know. I'm not optimistic about the next fours years with regard to the economy under the current administration- let's hope I'm wrong about that, too. On the bright side, we should at least have more casinos built to try and deal with state budget deficits! Congrats to the Wizard for making a good bet!
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:00:39 PM permalink
With all the fat lady pics Mike posted, I'm thinking he had more money on the line tonight than I would have initially guessed.

:D Congrats!!
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:05:21 PM permalink
I am curious as the amount too :-). Not asking though. I would bet $100 it was more than mine and I bet.

Also, Congrats
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:07:30 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

With all the fat lady pics Mike posted, I'm thinking he had more money on the line tonight than I would have initially guessed.

:D Congrats!!



Thanks!!!
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:08:38 PM permalink
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I am curious as the amount too :-).



I had about $21,000 bet on the election. Of course, I had to lay odds on Obama, so didn't win nearly that much.
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:14:23 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I had about $21,000 bet on the election. Of course, I had to lay odds on Obama, so didn't win nearly that much.



Congrats, Mike. Great +EV bet, imo.
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:27:16 PM permalink
BREAKING NEWS

Rasmussen Reports has just called the election for our new President of the United States, Mitt Romney!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:36:39 PM permalink
Anybody else looking at these senate races? NV and ND are separated by a COMBINED TOTAL of 600 votes, with the democrat winning each race.
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:38:40 PM permalink
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Anybody else looking at these senate races? NV and ND are separated by a COMBINED TOTAL of 600 votes, with the democrat winning each race.



I am watching Nevada. Despite leaning democrat in my views, I voted against Shelley Berkley and am hoping she loses.
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:44:52 PM permalink
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I am watching Nevada. Despite leaning democrat in my views, I voted against Shelley Berkley and am hoping she loses.



Heller seems like a good guy. And both of the candidates in ND are excellent. Every race should have such reasonable and thoughtful people involved.
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:52:50 PM permalink
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While I wasn't absolutely positive, I did think he would win. And I was wrong. I believed a Romney administration would be better for the economy- but now we'll never know. I'm not optimistic about the next fours years with regard to the economy under the current administration- let's hope I'm wrong about that, too. On the bright side, we should at least have more casinos built to try and deal with state budget deficits! Congrats to the Wizard for making a good bet!



Since we will be doing what we did the last 4 we should get more of the same-high unemployment, low growth, lack of business start-ups, and loads of money printing.

America, you just voted for the guy who never gave you a day of unemployment below 7.8% nor a deficit lower than $1 Trillion. Hope you enjoy it, more will come.


The difference this time is Obama does not have the House nor a killer majority in the Seante. He has proven himself unable to negotiate in any constructive way. Thus no new "stimulus" will be coming. In fact, taxes will be going up in 55 days, be ready!

Second terms are rarely better than the first, I expect no exception here. The Libyan Embassy thing may fester. Sandy is turning into Obama's Katrina. Either could cause problems. Or not. Or something new may blow up.

Now if you excuse me, I need to get ready for the coming recession. Should be here by Q3 of 2013.
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November 6th, 2012 at 10:01:35 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Oh, c'mon. That's not right. Nate has built a very intricate regression model to use polling and economic data as predictive tools.


I can't tell which EV totals Nate had as most likely, but it will be very interesting to see where the final total comes in on his list.
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November 6th, 2012 at 10:08:44 PM permalink
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I can't tell which EV totals Nate had as most likely, but it will be very interesting to see where the final total comes in on his list.



332, followed by 303, followed by 347. 332 was about 20% likely based on his final simulation run.
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November 6th, 2012 at 10:19:00 PM permalink
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332, followed by 303, followed by 347. 332 was about 20% likely based on his final simulation run.


If so, then based on the current projection from Fox (and CNN), Nate was exactly right. Obama projects at 303 without Florida, 332 with, and that's the only uncalled state right now.
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