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MrV
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September 5th, 2012 at 11:45:47 PM permalink
Empty suit or empty heart.

You make the call.
"What, me worry?"
RonC
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September 6th, 2012 at 3:41:20 AM permalink
I'm not that cynical about the whole thing. I think that we got what we voted for in 2008; many though that then-Senator Obama lacked the credentials (he was severely lacking in experience) to be President and it turns out that they may have been right. Senator McCain didn't present a very attractive option and he chose a distraction as his VP candidate (I don't dislike Governor Palin; wrong woman, wrong time).

The things President Obama promised that meant a lot to some people didn't happen the way he promised they would and there is no great increase in transparency. His idea of compromise is "do it my way and we'll say that we worked together" at best. The conservative side of the Republican party went farther right and dug in. They decided to match him--he won't compromise; neither will they.

Governor Romney doesn't have an empty suit or an empty heart. He has helped people along the way and he has been successful. He doesn't verbalize helping people...but he does help. He also is a hard-nosed business person. He gets things done.

I am not one off those that thinks either person is evil...we just have a choice to make and my choice is to support Governor Romney.
s2dbaker
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September 6th, 2012 at 5:59:50 AM permalink
I'm going with the guy that got bin Laden. Also, the US economy histoically does much better with a Democrat at the helm.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
AZDuffman
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September 6th, 2012 at 6:27:09 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I'm going with the guy that got bin Laden. Also, the US economy histoically does much better with a Democrat at the helm.



I guess you do not include the years of 1976-1980 and 2008-2012 vs 1981 to 1990 in your figures? Or do you hope people don't remember?

Clinton and Bush43 were about equal in terms of the economy, other than that no contest.
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s2dbaker
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September 6th, 2012 at 7:06:37 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I guess you do not include the years of 1976-1980 and 2008-2012 vs 1981 to 1990 in your figures? Or do you hope people don't remember?

Clinton and Bush43 were about equal in terms of the economy, other than that no contest.

You're right about it being no contest. Democrats win by any measure.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
AZDuffman
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September 6th, 2012 at 7:16:38 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

You're right about it being no contest. Democrats win by any measure.



DailyKos as a source? Seriouly?
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s2dbaker
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September 6th, 2012 at 7:23:26 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: s2dbaker

You're right about it being no contest. Democrats win by any measure.



DailyKos as a source? Seriouly?

What do you got?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
RonC
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September 6th, 2012 at 7:35:24 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I'm going with the guy that got bin Laden. Also, the US economy histoically does much better with a Democrat at the helm.



"Getting Bin Laden" is great, but it isn't something to hang your hat on as President because you just did what anyone in that office would have done. I would exclude Ron Paul from that (and someone made the convoluted argument that John McCain might have been too distracted to do it, but I dismiss that one...). The plan was to find and kill Bin Laden. President Obama didn't put that plan in motion; the previous President did. The intelligence and military people looked until they found him and then killed him.

It would have only been a big Presidential decision had he said "Don't do it"...

Now, if you feel that the exconomy really is better with a Democrat at the helm, then that would be a good reason to vote that way.
Paradigm
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September 6th, 2012 at 8:03:59 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: s2dbaker

You're right about it being no contest. Democrats win by any measure.



DailyKos as a source? Seriouly?

What do you got?



I think his point was that this:

ABOUT DAILY KOS Founded on May 26, 2002, Daily Kos is the premier online political community with 2 million unique visitors per month and 300,000 registered users. It is at once a news organization, community, and activist hub. Among luminaries posting diaries on the site are President Jimmy Carter, Senator Barack Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, and dozens of other senators, congressmen, and governors. Even more exciting than that, however, are the hundreds of thousands of regular Americans that have used Daily Kos to shape a political world once the exclusive domain of the rich, connected, and powerful.

doesn't exactly sound like an unbiased balanced source for much of anything. For what it is worth, if anyone on the right started quoted "Rush L" as a source I would say the same thing.
s2dbaker
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September 6th, 2012 at 8:17:10 AM permalink
Just to clean this up a bit, I quoted a source that had links to statistics. The source is not accepted. So I'll ask again, what have you got?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez

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