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DRich
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March 25th, 2021 at 6:19:20 PM permalink
These are all exactly the reasons I buy new cars. I don't care if I over pay, it is worth it to me not to have to worry about maintenance.

I only put about 7,000 miles a year on my car so I don't even have to replace tires.
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March 25th, 2021 at 8:02:52 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

These are all exactly the reasons I buy new cars. I don't care if I over pay, it is worth it to me not to have to worry about maintenance.

I only put about 7,000 miles a year on my car so I don't even have to replace tires.



I've bought every vehicle I've owned new with the exception of my first one, and while it is not the preferred option of a penny pincher I find the trade-offs acceptable, like the worry free bumper to bumper 36,000 mile warranty that came with the purchase price.
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March 25th, 2021 at 8:03:44 PM permalink
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These are all exactly the reasons I buy new cars. I don't care if I over pay, it is worth it to me not to have to worry about maintenance.

I only put about 7,000 miles a year on my car so I don't even have to replace tires.



If you really want to “AP” it, buy one year old pre-certified used cars from the dealer every 3 years. They tend to be as good as new for “hassle” factor and it’s cheaper over time as cars depreciate much more the first year than thereafter.
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March 25th, 2021 at 9:35:29 PM permalink
In the 80s and 90s I knew a rich woman who was the mother of a friend of mine. Worth about 20 million. She bought nothing but used cars. Every two years she would buy a low mileage Buick or Oldsmobile station wagon and trade in the four-year-old wagon. She claimed that research showed this was the absolute best way to buy a car. You got an almost new car that's broken in and got maximum value out of the trade in. She had salesman at the dealership looking for low mileage vehicles for her.
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March 26th, 2021 at 2:29:18 AM permalink
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I basically made the deal on this van. So I'm talking to the woman who owns it on the phone and she says, by the way, you have to start the van everyday or every other day or the battery goes dead. It started doing this last year; she bought a new battery in the fall and it drains the new battery. She's made sure nothing is on inside the vehicle none of the lights are on inside, and it still drains the battery. She took it to a guy and he can't figure it out. This is a deal-breaker for me. It's obviously what they call a parasitic short. There's a wire somewhere in the van and it's grounding out draining the battery. Why would I want a vehicle where this is happening, to have to constantly worry about the battery being dead. And I asked her when was the last time she had a new exhaust put on. She got the vehicle 7 years ago it had never had a new exhaust put on it. Guess what's going to be going bad 10 minutes after I buy it.


Sure, you can always keep a battery jumper pack on hand and it will start right up. It really isn't that big of a deal. You need a reliable car at a good price to ship your brother to his appointments and you're not going to find something which never needs work or anything. Don't know about getting stickers or anything like that, we don't have car inspections in Ohio. Fords have been reliable and get many miles on them, that's what I'll be looking at when I need another car, Asian cars are too small for me.
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March 26th, 2021 at 3:09:01 AM permalink
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In the 80s and 90s I knew a rich woman who was the mother of a friend of mine. Worth about 20 million. She bought nothing but used cars. Every two years she would buy a low mileage Buick or Oldsmobile station wagon and trade in the four-year-old wagon. She claimed that research showed this was the absolute best way to buy a car. You got an almost new car that's broken in and got maximum value out of the trade in. She had salesman at the dealership looking for low mileage vehicles for her.



I bought new once, an Accent, and ran it 9.5 years. I was upset I did not get 10 but the thing cot me what, $3 a day in depreciation? And did I run the heck out of it.

Minivans are so practical which is why they get run to death. Rumor is they have searched for a pristine version of the first year Caravan/Voyager for display but not even 1 exists. Usually some people buy cars and never use them so you get the 13000 mile Mark III like I saw on a YT channel I watch has this kind of old boats for sale. But not the minivans. They get used!

When I was doing courier work a guy showed me a local place did just used and cheap high mileage minivans for a few thousand. The life cycle works something like this. A family buys it as a family hauler and keeps it a few years, sells it because they have the money to upgrade. Then a commercial buyer gets it and uses it for light and bulk stuff like a flower shop. Then it goes to a courier or tradesman who loads it up and runs it into the ground.
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March 26th, 2021 at 4:06:21 AM permalink
If you buy a car with a sunroof, there will tend to be a lot of nicer features along with it such as premium sound, leather seats, etc.
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March 26th, 2021 at 5:05:13 AM permalink
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I just remembered she also said the check engine light is always on. She had her mechanic look at it he said it's coming from the front catalytic converter. But he checked it out and it's still performing okay. The computer views it as not okay so the check engine light never goes out. What this means is that when something else goes wrong you won't know about it because the check engine light is now totally useless.

You can buy an engine diagnostic tool for $20 and check it yourself. Takes about 2 minutes. In my experience with my vehicles, the majority of "check engine light" issues are just emission issues, nothing that would affect the performance of the vehicle.

Also, regarding the battery, if you wouldn't be driving it much, you could just disconnect the battery when not in use.

That said, I wouldn't want to buy a car where I had to worry about this stuff right off the jump. I'm with you -- run, don't walk away from this car!
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March 26th, 2021 at 5:43:36 AM permalink
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You can buy an engine diagnostic tool for $20 and check it yourself. Takes about 2 minutes. In my experience with my vehicles, the majority of "check engine light" issues are just emission issues, nothing that would affect the performance of the vehicle.

Also, regarding the battery, if you wouldn't be driving it much, you could just disconnect the battery when not in use.

That said, I wouldn't want to buy a car where I had to worry about this stuff right off the jump. I'm with you -- run, don't walk away from this car!

You can get a $20 obd2 scanner with Bluetooth and link it to your cell phone. With a $10 app, it will read codes that will even direct you to the error code on the internet, which will give you all kinds of information about the problem and how to solve it. You can reset the codes if you wish. The app will do much more than that, you can leave the obd2 connected/inserted(it's small and you can't even see it) it will track mileage, gas, GPS location, show you a real-time tachometer/speedometer, it will tell you how fast your car can go from zero to 60, it will record your trips and warn you if your car is overheating, and much more. It's well worth the $30 or $40 if you own a car, or if you are buying a used one.

I did have some Bluetooth connection problems with it, it wasn't auto-connecting to my phone like it should have, but they say that bug has been solved with an update, I just haven't taken the time to update and check yet. I have been planning on getting a new android car stereo and connecting it to that permanently instead of my cell phone.
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March 26th, 2021 at 7:09:05 AM permalink
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If you really want to “AP” it, buy one year old pre-certified used cars from the dealer every 3 years. They tend to be as good as new for “hassle” factor and it’s cheaper over time as cars depreciate much more the first year than thereafter.



My experience in looking at cars tells me that buying a one year old car from the dealer is not cheaper because you are not getting the manufacturers cash incentives. I usually only lease cars that have a large discount incentive and a higher residual. If the car doesn't have at least a $5000 manufacturer incentive and a dealer discount of at least 10% I am not getting it.
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