Buying a Used Car
I can't imagine wanting to deal with that, especially if you are running late for something. I would really hate doing something like that in the mid-summer here in Vegas. It would seem that no matter how careful you were you would at some point end up getting grease stains on your clothing.Quote: onenickelmiracleIt's such a small inconvenience. Pop the hood, attach your battery pack, start car, remove battery pack, close hood and drive off. You otherwise liked the minivan, this battery issue really isn't any predictor of other problems. The car being old and low priced was, but that's what you were paying for.
This got me thinking about how paranoid my wife is when it comes to getting stranded on the side of the road. She will rarely drive my truck since the gas gauge doesn't work. She gets annoyed at me when I drive the car and leave it close to empty or when I don't immediately pull over to get gas when the gas light comes on. I'm like Nah, "we are more than fine" To be fair, I have run a couple of car rentals out of gas in some desolate areas and had to hitchhike to the nearest town while she stays with the car.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI've been doing it for at a few years. Yeah aggravating sometimes
Sometimes? Every time as far as I'm concerned. Like somebody else pointed out, you have to drive a car that has an almost dead battery for an hour for it to be fully recharged and I never go anywhere that's more than four or five miles away. Plus I'm just too old for that crap. That's why you see old guys driving new luxury cars, they don't want to mess with them anymore. They just want comfort and reliability.
Quote: AxelWolfTo be fair, I have run a couple of car rentals out of gas in some desolate areas and had to hitchhike to the nearest town while she stays with the car.
You don't realize it, but this speaks boatloads as to the type of person that you are. I'm not going to go into it because it would be personal insults up the wazoo. If I did that to my wife even once, she would never ride with me again anywhere, and I would not blame her. My vehicle gets down to half empty, I fill it up. I have never run out of gas in a car in my life that I was driving.
That being said, in 1977 I was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge leaving San Francisco with a business partner, in his car, and we ran out of gas in the middle of the bridge. I kid you not. Luckily they have people stationed there for just such an event and he showed up with a 2 gallon can of gas. And cursed my business partner out like I have never heard in my life. He called him every name in the book, as he does anybody who runs out of gas on the Golden Gate Bridge. It was an amazing performance and my business partner was almost in tears while it was going on. I felt no pity for him, cuz I might have knocked his lights out I was so furious. We didn't last much longer, I walked away from the business because I swear I would be in prison today because I would have killed him. Probably the most irresponsible, irritating person I've ever met. A year-and-a-half later I'm reading People Magazine and there he is, in the entrepreneur section with the product that I invented. I didn't even care because I really would have killed him and I really would be in prison. And I'm not a violent person.
Quote: EvenBobSometimes? Every time as far as I'm concerned. Like somebody else pointed out, you have to drive a car that has an almost dead battery for an hour for it to be fully recharged and I never go anywhere that's more than four or five miles away. Plus I'm just too old for that crap. That's why you see old guys driving new luxury cars, they don't want to mess with them anymore. They just want comfort and reliability.
That is so me today. I am lucky to be comfortable financially so I will overspend to have a new car and not have to worry about car problems.
I am considering getting a third car and if I do that will be a 10 year old car that I couldn't afford a new one of. Right now we have a sedan and a small SUV but I wouldn't mind getting a sporty luxury car for weekend driving.
Quote: ChumpChangeI figure cars are at the end at 10 years because more things go wrong more frequently, especially in the rust belt.
In general I would agree with you. The one I am looking at is a luxury car with 39,000 miles on it so I am guessing it has been taken care of. The owner has all of his paperwork in a binder from every oil change and checkup. I am scared to pull the trigger because when it does breakdown it will be very expensive to fix.
When I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations once we noticed there could be a problem. One time It actually not my fault since I was sleeping at the time we had the last best optetunity to get gas.Quote: EvenBobYou don't realize it, but this speaks boatloads as to the type of person that you are. I'm not going to go into it because it would be personal insults up the wazoo. If I did that to my wife even once, she would never ride with me again anywhere, and I would not blame her. My vehicle gets down to half empty, I fill it up. I have never run out of gas in a car in my life that I was driving.
That being said, in 1977 I was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge leaving San Francisco with a business partner, in his car, and we ran out of gas in the middle of the bridge. I kid you not. Luckily they have people stationed there for just such an event and he showed up with a 2 gallon can of gas. And cursed my business partner out like I have never heard in my life. He called him every name in the book, as he does anybody who runs out of gas on the Golden Gate Bridge. It was an amazing performance and my business partner was almost in tears while it was going on. I felt no pity for him, cuz I might have knocked his lights out I was so furious. We didn't last much longer, I walked away from the business because I swear I would be in prison today because I would have killed him. Probably the most irresponsible, irritating person I've ever met. A year-and-a-half later I'm reading People Magazine and there he is, in the entrepreneur section with the product that I invented. I didn't even care because I really would have killed him and I really would be in prison. And I'm not a violent person.
Feel free to tell me what kind of person you think I am regarding this no suspension. FYI, my Wife still lives with me...
Quote: DRichI am scared to pull the trigger because when it does breakdown it will be very expensive to fix.
The more expensive the car was when it was new the more expensive it is to get it fixed. Just replacing a windshield wiper is expensive. Just get a five-year-old Lincoln Town Car with low mileage. Drive it 3 or 4 years and sell it and get another one. Will cost you practically nothing in the long run if you don't put a ton of miles on it.
Quote: EvenBobThe more expensive the car was when it was new the more expensive it is to get it fixed.
That is what I am worried about. The one I am looking at was $116,000 in 2011.
Quote: EvenBobThe more expensive the car was when it was new the more expensive it is to get it fixed. Just replacing a windshield wiper is expensive. Just get a five-year-old Lincoln Town Car with low mileage. Drive it 3 or 4 years and sell it and get another one. Will cost you practically nothing in the long run if you don't put a ton of miles on it.
Why used Toyota’s and Honda’s with 100k+ cost as much or more than used BMW and Mercedes with 100k+. An econo buyer knows those things will go 300+ easy. if they’re cared for with routine maintenance. I’ve got 285 on mine and I sort of wish it would just start having some sort of problems so I can move on..
Quote: mcallister3200. I’ve got 285 on mine and I sort of wish it would just start having some sort of problems so I can move on..
I've got 18,500 on my Chevy and getting rid of it before it implodes.
Quote: DRichThat is what I am worried about. The one I am looking at was $116,000 in 2011.
I would never own a car like that cuz I would be afraid to park it anywhere outdoors while I'm inside a store. I would get a three year old loaded Lincoln Town Car, drive it for 3 years trade it in on another one. It's a luxury car and nobody pays any attention to it.
Like this 2018. Fully loaded it was $85K.
the poor house for repairs, parts and labor are stupidly high.
I have Professional Mechs. in my family & I'm pretty handy myself so I drive high mileage used stuff I know
can be repaired on the cheap and that includes motors & trans.
I'm building A 99 Jeep Cherokee right now, will be my new daily driver mostly new everything
except paint paints still good enough and will save a lot of dough here.
These rigs are known to be one of the best if not the best off road capable rig made.
Youtube is full of Videos its amazing what they can do even in a stock configuration
which is what mine will be.
Look up stock XJ off road on the Tube if you wish its amazing.
Quote: rainman
I'm building A 99 Jeep Cherokee right now,
Good thing you work on them because Jeep now has one of the worst reliability records out there. Especially since Fiat bought Chrysler. Dodge stopped making their Grand Caravan last year because they're pieces of crap now. Super expensive and they break down constantly. Chrysler has gotten so bad with all their vehicles they are a couple of billion dollars in debt and none of the other major car companies are in debt at all. Fiat-Chrysler is begging to merge with somebody, but nobody wants them. Some experts think in two years Chrysler will be totally gone, their cars have gotten that bad.
Quote: EvenBobGood thing you work on them because Jeep now has one of the worst reliability records out there. Especially since Fiat bought Chrysler. Dodge stopped making their Grand Caravan last year because they're pieces of crap now. Super expensive and they break down constantly. Chrysler has gotten so bad with all their vehicles they are a couple of billion dollars in debt and none of the other major car companies are in debt at all. Fiat-Chrysler is begging to merge with somebody, but nobody wants them. Some experts think in two years Chrysler will be totally gone, their cars have gotten that bad.
For sure, that's why I went back to 99 and even then they have some junky wiring and
other issues but all that will be taken care of. I paid 1500 put 4500 in parts its almost done
all the issues are taken care of so I'm basically driving a new car for 6000 bucks even
the carpets new.
Quote: EvenBob
That being said, in 1977 I was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge leaving San Francisco with a business partner, in his car, and we ran out of gas in the middle of the bridge. I kid you not. Luckily they have people stationed there for just such an event and he showed up with a 2 gallon can of gas. And cursed my business partner out like I have never heard in my life. He called him every name in the book, as he does anybody who runs out of gas on the Golden Gate Bridge. It was an amazing performance and my business partner was almost in tears while it was going on. I felt no pity for him, cuz I might have knocked his lights out I was so furious. We didn't last much longer, I walked away from the business because I swear I would be in prison today because I would have killed him. Probably the most irresponsible, irritating person I've ever met. A year-and-a-half later I'm reading People Magazine and there he is, in the entrepreneur section with the product that I invented. I didn't even care because I really would have killed him and I really would be in prison. And I'm not a violent person.
Great story.😄 I dont like being on that bridge even with a full tank.😲
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Oh snap. Is your refrigerator running?Quote: AxelWolfWhen I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations once we noticed there could be a problem. One time It actually not my fault since I was sleeping at the time we had the last best optetunity to get gas.
Feel free to tell me what kind of person you think I am regarding this no suspension. FYI, my Wife still lives with me...
Quote: AxelWolfWhen I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations once we noticed there could be a problem. One time It actually not my fault since I was sleeping at the time we had the last best optetunity to get gas.
Feel free to tell me what kind of person you think I am regarding this no suspension. FYI, my Wife still lives with me...
Is this offer open to anyone? Ahhh... never mind I'm just gonna end up trolling myself into a suspension
carry on.
Quote: AxelWolfWhen I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations
People who run out of gas or almost run out of gas as a regular thing always have a buttload of reasons for it. When my business partner ran out on the Golden Gate Bridge he grabbed the steering wheel started whining over and over I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die. Not giving one crap that he put my life in just as much danger as he put his. That's why the rescue guy was so angry, because he put all of us In harms way. The Golden Gate often has visibility issues and people have been killed on it who ran out of gas. The rescue guy charged him $10 for the two gallons and my partner whined all the way home about it. The guy saved us and my partner was worried about his life, got saved, and then complained about how much it cost. What kind of a person does this sound like to you.
Quote: EvenBobPeople who run out of gas or almost run out of gas as a regular thing always have a buttload of reasons for it. When my business partner ran out on the Golden Gate Bridge he grabbed the steering wheel started whining over and over I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die. Not giving one crap that he put my life in just as much danger as he put his. That's why the rescue guy was so angry, because he put all of us In harms way. The Golden Gate often has visibility issues and people have been killed on it who ran out of gas. The rescue guy charged him $10 for the two gallons and my partner whined all the way home about it. The guy saved us and my partner was worried about his life, got saved, and then complained about how much it cost. What kind of a person does this sound like to you.
The Road sign said, Vehicles with Two "Axles" only.. You certainly had one in yours.😉
Not sure but, my dishwasher seems to be working well.Quote: onenickelmiracleOh snap. Is your refrigerator running?
If my worst sin regarding my Wife is running us out of gas a few times, I'm probably doing ok. She hasn't lorded it over me.
Ocassianlly she still brings up the fact that after we first started dating that I got a girl's Phone number. And I gave some other girl her drink that I ordered for her.
She was the one that dared me saying I couldn't get a particular girl's number. Sure, it may have been a test to see if I would, or perhaps she wanted to know if that chick was into me, but she knew better than to dare me.
In the other situation, a girl I knew ordered the same thing as I was getting for my wife(not my wife at the time, I don't even think we were exclusive at the time), as the bartender sat mine down, I simply told the other girl to take that one and I would reorder since they were free to me. She just happened to walk up as this was all going down. She wasn't too happy about it. 🤷♂️
Quote: AxelWolfIf my worst sin regarding my Wife is running us out of gas a few times, I'm probably doing ok.
No, you really are not doing okay because somebody actually has to explain this to you. You've run out of gas more than once and had to leave your wife in the car, unprotected, while you hitchhiked somewhere to get more gas. You have no idea what kind of area you're going to be in when you run out of gas. You could say yeah, it was the interstate, it was safe. Really? When I had to go to Chicago on a run when I had the cab company the dispatcher would always remind me to make sure I had lots of gas because running out of gas on the freeway in many places in Chicago was a death sentence. When you get back to it your car is going to be stripped of everything and if your wife was in it what do you think would have happened to her. When somebody acts like that, has that kind of behavior, what's it called. I don't want to say it because we have hair trigger mods here now and I have no idea what's considered a personal insult these days.
Quote: AxelWolfNot sure but, my dishwasher seems to be working well.
If my worst sin regarding my Wife is running us out of gas a few times, I'm probably doing ok. She hasn't lorded it over me.
Ocassianlly she still brings up the fact that after we first started dating that I got a girl's Phone number. And I gave some other girl her drink that I ordered for her.
She was the one that dared me saying I couldn't get a particular girl's number. Sure, it may have been a test to see if I would, or perhaps she wanted to know if that chick was into me, but she knew better than to dare me.
In the other situation, a girl I knew ordered the same thing as I was getting for my wife(not my wife at the time, I don't even think we were exclusive at the time), as the bartender sat mine down, I simply told the other girl to take that one and I would reorder since they were free to me. She just happened to walk up as this was all going down. She wasn't too happy about it. 🤷♂️
Well you bettter go catch it. Your wife is in there.
You don't have to explain anything to me, I didn't say it was a good thing, Things happen and it's what happened, and I can't change that. How do you know she was unprotected or what the circumstances were, were you there? You are just speculating, for all you know she may have had a fully loaded handgun and she is a better shot than 90% of the population, or perhaps I put a sign up saying come kidnap me. You are making mountains out of molehills. Sorry to disappoint you but we were nowhere near a crime-ridden area. It doesn't matter what YOU think, it matters what she thinks. Again, if that's one of the worst things I have done in over 20 years, I'm doing well. It might be why my wife still lives with me, unlike yours.Quote: EvenBobNo, you really are not doing okay because somebody actually has to explain this to you. You've run out of gas more than once and had to leave your wife in the car, unprotected, while you hitchhiked somewhere to get more gas. You have no idea what kind of area you're going to be in when you run out of gas. You could say yeah, it was the interstate, it was safe. Really? When I had to go to Chicago on a run when I had the cab company the dispatcher would always remind me to make sure I had lots of gas because running out of gas on the freeway in many places in Chicago was a death sentence. When you get back to it your car is going to be stripped of everything and if your wife was in it what do you think would have happened to her. When somebody acts like that, has that kind of behavior, what's it called. I don't want to say it because we have hair trigger mods here now and I have no idea what's considered a personal insult these days.
Quote: EvenBobNo, you really are not doing okay because somebody actually has to explain this to you. You've run out of gas more than once and had to leave your wife in the car, unprotected, while you hitchhiked somewhere to get more gas. You have no idea what kind of area you're going to be in when you run out of gas. You could say yeah, it was the interstate, it was safe. Really? When I had to go to Chicago on a run when I had the cab company the dispatcher would always remind me to make sure I had lots of gas because running out of gas on the freeway in many places in Chicago was a death sentence. When you get back to it your car is going to be stripped of everything and if your wife was in it what do you think would have happened to her. When somebody acts like that, has that kind of behavior, what's it called. I don't want to say it because we have hair trigger mods here now and I have no idea what's considered a personal insult these days.
Just because one is paranoid, it doesn't mean there isn't a balrog in the wodpile.
oh let us call him.Quote: EvenBobIf a vehicle has an orange title that means it's a salvage title which means the vehicle was in a bad accident and was written off by the insurance company because it cost more to fix it than it was worth. You can get these fixed and have it inspected by the state and they will issue you a repair salvage title. All this means is a State inspector made sure all the parts were installed and the vehicle looks safe. He does not drive it, he has no idea if it pulls to left or right or if the frame is bent, so his inspection is almost meaningless. I was talking to a guy on the phone about a 2010 Toyota minivan and he said by the way, it has a repair salvage title. I started asking him about the accident it was in and he got furious with me, said I was stupid. LOL He was from a foreign country. I guess in his country you're stupid if you ask questions about the vehicle you might buy. I have since read some articles that run away from these vehicles as fast as you can because they always have things wrong with them that are hidden. And good luck getting insurance, most insurance companies won't touch a vehicle that another insurance company has written off.
Quote: EvenBobI have since read some articles that run away from these vehicles as fast as you can because they always have things wrong with them that are hidden. And good luck getting insurance, most insurance companies won't touch a vehicle that another insurance company has written off.
I had one car that had a salvage title and the insurance company never asked about it.
Quote: DRichI had one car that had a salvage title and the insurance company never asked about it.
It's not 1994 anymore..
Because it was a hybrid, the cost to repair and replace it was astronomical, nearly as much as the car was worth.
I ended up selling it to peddle.com. They offered me more $$$ than any of the other “we buy junk cars!” sites. It almost seemed too good to be true. But nope, it was legit. They were here to pick it up the day after I accepted the offer and (most importantly) their check cleared. Couldn’t recommend them any higher if you ever have a car you need to get rid of.
Quote: mcallister3200You just make stuff up constantly eb.
I never make anything up. Lots more where this came from:
6 Reasons To Avoid Buying A Salvage Car
https://www.launchcu.com/blog/should-buy-salvage-car/
Hard To Insure
Very few auto insurance companies will write collision and comprehensive coverage for salvage-title vehicles because it is tough for an insurance company to place a value on the vehicle. You may find some insurance companies who are willing to write policies for salvage vehicles; however, this coverage will be limited.
Quote: ams288The transmission in my VW Jetta Hybrid died last month.
Because it was a hybrid, the cost to repair and replace it was astronomical, nearly as much as the car was worth.
I ended up selling it to peddle.com. They offered me more $$$ than any of the other “we buy junk cars!” sites. It almost seemed too good to be true. But nope, it was legit. They were here to pick it up the day after I accepted the offer and (most importantly) their check cleared. Couldn’t recommend them any higher if you ever have a car you need to get rid of.
I have an offer from Carvana right now that I am accepting. I expect it will take a week before they pick it up.
I just looked mine up on Peddle and it came up $10,000 less than Carvana.
I had a 1992 Camry with about 230k miles that I had until about 2013. The sunroof still worked and never leaked. Just my experience.Quote: EvenBobSunroofs and moon roofs are terrible after
a hundred thousand miles. The seals dry out
and crack. and they all leak eventually.
Also the drains for the sunroof often get plugged up, causing a leak: the drains can be easily cleaned out.
It's posts like EB's that help to induce people to get rid of their used car and buy a new one instead of maintaining / fixing their used car.
Buying a new car is not a bad deal. If you’re looking for the best deal, this is the way to go. You get a new car and all that comes with it, better selection and you don’t have to worry cause the dealer isn’t making and money on it. The new car market is so competitive that even someone who hasn’t done their homework is going to get a good deal.
There’s definite advantages to buying from professional sellers, like convenience or efficiency, but I’m not sure if best deal is usually one of them.
Discuss.
