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March 25th, 2021 at 2:08:06 PM permalink
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I basically made the deal on this van. So I'm talking to the woman who owns it on the phone and she says, by the way, you have to start the van everyday or every other day or the battery goes dead. It started doing this last year; she bought a new battery in the fall and it drains the new battery. She's made sure nothing is on inside the vehicle none of the lights are on inside, and it still drains the battery. She took it to a guy and he can't figure it out. This is a deal-breaker for me. It's obviously what they call a parasitic short. There's a wire somewhere in the van and it's grounding out draining the battery. Why would I want a vehicle where this is happening, to have to constantly worry about the battery being dead. And I asked her when was the last time she had a new exhaust put on. She got the vehicle 7 years ago it had never had a new exhaust put on it. Guess what's going to be going bad 10 minutes after I buy it.




I have a buddy this happened to. After a week of checking things out with a multimeter he found that the glove compartment light
was staying on.
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March 25th, 2021 at 2:13:01 PM permalink
Seriously, it could be anything shorting out, and it takes someone very skilled to track these problems down and actually fix them.
EvenBob
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March 25th, 2021 at 3:33:25 PM permalink
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Seriously, it could be anything shorting out, and it takes someone very skilled to track these problems down and actually fix them.



Exactly! This will be the 25th vehicle I've owned in my life, it's not my first rodeo. You could be an experts expert and not find where the short is. And it is correct that just running the vehicle every couple of days will keep the battery charged. It will not. An alternator sends a trickle charge to the battery, I could drive it 3 miles to the store and back and it would not charge the battery if the battery was halfway down when I left. That's why it's a deal-breaker for me. And I swear to God, this woman who kept track of every single thing done to that vehicle did not know what a muffler was. Women..
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March 25th, 2021 at 4:30:02 PM permalink
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Seriously, it could be anything shorting out, and it takes someone very skilled to track these problems down and actually fix them.

I have a Truck that does some strange stuff related to electric problems and I have taken to two mechanics and they can't seem to figure it out. The problem never seems to occur when I bring it in. The one mechanic even drove it for the day.
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EvenBob
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March 25th, 2021 at 4:49:05 PM permalink
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I have a Truck that does some strange stuff related to electric problems and I have taken to two mechanics and they can't seem to figure it out. The problem never seems to occur when I bring it in. The one mechanic even drove it for the day.



I was just reading about a trick to do when you have a problem like this. Take the vehicle into a dark garage, like your home garage with the door closed and the lights off. Start pulling the fuses one by one and putting them back in. If one of them sparks that's the problem circuit. At least it will narrow it down as to where to look.
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March 25th, 2021 at 5:00:49 PM permalink
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I was just reading about a trick to do when you have a problem like this. Take the vehicle into a dark garage, like your home garage with the door closed and the lights off. Start pulling the fuses one by one and putting them back in. If one of them sparks that's the problem circuit. At least it will narrow it down as to where to look.

When I say strange stuff, it seems to suddenly lose power and cut out once in a while(my wife won't drive it because of this). I can turn it off and wait a few min and it will start back up and be fine sometimes for the rest of the day and sometimes it will do it a few times right after the first time. It's not a big deal since it's more of a flashy collectors truck that I don't use all that often. I haven't even registered it yet this year.
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EvenBob
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March 25th, 2021 at 5:16:44 PM permalink
I just remembered she also said the check engine light is always on. She had her mechanic look at it he said it's coming from the front catalytic converter. But he checked it out and it's still performing okay. The computer views it as not okay so the check engine light never goes out. What this means is that when something else goes wrong you won't know about it because the check engine light is now totally useless. This minivan has two catalytic converters, front and rear. They usually last about a hundred and fifty thousand miles before they have to be replaced. This van has 275,000 miles on it with the original converters. And one of them is going bad. Cost to replace the whole system? Over $2,500. No thanks. You can drive a car with a bad converter but it smokes like crazy and gets terrible gas mileage and in some states it will get your vehicle towed.

I have been conversing with her with texts and was pretty much sold on the vehicle until I spoke with her on the phone. I realize now that as soon as I heard she was the owner my heart sank because I have never known a woman that knows anything about vehicles. Everything she was telling me in text she got from all the notes she kept over the years. I soon realized she knew nothing about the vehicle outside of her notes.
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March 25th, 2021 at 5:21:16 PM permalink
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When I say strange stuff, it seems to suddenly lose power and cut out once in a while(my wife won't drive it because of this).



From all the reading I've been doing in looking for a vehicle, this is not an uncommon problem. It's usually something to do with a computer module but narrowing it down can be a nightmare. You end up replacing half the electronic system and it costs thousands of dollars. For us non-mechanical types, we have no idea how complicated today's vehicles are. I remember 30 years ago in the early nineties my vehicle just quit running sitting at a red light. Would not restart. Mechanic said bad computer, they didn't have modules in those days you had to replace the entire computer. $800 which was a lot of money in 1992.
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March 25th, 2021 at 5:39:31 PM permalink
I had a car that would just die while driving and had to be towed from the scene, multiple times. That's just a deadly driving condition. One time it died when I was passing the leaving town sign, so I figured maybe the police had a kill switch on it, or some really disruptive radar...or laser satellites! The On-Star was never activated, and now I'm reading On-Star is going out of business.
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March 25th, 2021 at 5:46:04 PM permalink
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Experts agree that used cars must be inspected by a qualified specialist before the final negotiation for purchase. The ordinary car buyer, even if mechanically savvy, really can't do it justice. A thorough, professional inspection can tell you whether you're about to buy a peach or a lemon.



https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/inspect-that-used-car-before-buying.html

cost $100-200
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