Covid vaccine poll

Quote: AZDuffman

Not being obtuse at all. Making a point. Worded in such a way as to make my point about some of the statements made by the pro-maskers on here. The wording about "yelling unmasked" should be a dead giveaway.

Meanwhile worked a great poker game last night. About 30 people, one woman working the party masked up but nobody else did.

I am so sick of you people, (now divided along party lines) that think you have the right to do whatever you want. That is NOT how it works and was never how it worked.

You don't have the right to walk down the street shooting whoever you want.
You don't have the right to take whatever you want, whether it belongs to you or not.
You don't even have the right to say whatever you want. You don't have the right to yell fire in a crowded place.

In short, your "freedoms" stop at another person. You have the right to do what you want as long as you are harming no one else.

If you want to kill yourself, go for it. Shoot yourself, drink yourself silly, overdose on whatever drugs you want. Jump off a cliff or bridge or off the roof of a high building. But don't take us with you, And that is what you are doing. Your decision is effecting me, just the same as if you hijacked a plane I am on and fly it into a building.

Quote: AZDuffman

Not being obtuse at all. Making a point. Worded in such a way as to make my point about some of the statements made by the pro-maskers on here. The wording about "yelling unmasked" should be a dead giveaway.

Meanwhile worked a great poker game last night. About 30 people, one woman working the party masked up but nobody else did.

And that's fine, it doesn't trigger me since I'm guilty of not following the proper guidelines all the time myself. However, I try to do my best and I'm not apposed to doing so. Wearing a mask and trying your best to soical distance isn't a big deal, awhile we are trying to figure this stuff out, even is if it doesn't work as well as they would have us think, it's not a big deal. I still belive had we done a much more rigorous proper lock down accros the world we could have confined much sooner. Unfortunately, I don't know if that was ever even a remote possibility. I was ready and willing to do so myself.

Quote: kewlj

I am so sick of you people, (now divided along party lines) that think you have the right to do whatever you want. That is NOT how it works and was never how it worked.

You don't have the right to walk down the street shooting whoever you want.
You don't have the right to take whatever you want, whether it belongs to you or not.
You don't even have the right to say whatever you want. You don't have the right to yell fire in a crowded place.

In short, your "freedoms" stop at another person. You have the right to do what you want as long as you are harming no one else.

If you want to kill yourself, go for it. Shoot yourself, drink yourself silly, overdose on whatever drugs you want. Jump off a cliff or bridge or off the roof of a high building. But don't take us with you, And that is what you are doing. Your decision is effecting me, just the same as if you hijacked a plane I am on and fly it into a building.

FYI, Unless someone is willing to go live far away from our society, doing those things you mentioned actually do affect other's. Of course, we account for all that as a part of living in soocity, so I think it's probably fine.

Ya know one of the ways science people and experts have surmised that our world and civilization could end has always been a virus that we can't control or overcome. Now I don't think and certainly hope this is not the one and the time. But what if it is.

What if the virus only in it's infancy, continues to mutate and grow much much stronger. And it keeps mutating away from our vaccines, therapies, cures and defenses to where we have no defense. First wave it kills mostly the older, high risk, next wave, middle ages and finally the younger stronger.

Several years from now, when death rates are 50, 60, 70%, and we are powerless with civilization is on the brink of ending, we might look back and say, we had the power to end this when the virus was in it's infancy just by wearing a damn mask for a few months and smothering out this virus before it could strengthen and mutate to the point that we couldn't control it.

Is it really too much to ask to wear a mask, to get a vaccine? To stop a virus that potentially could wipe us all out? Again, I hope this isn't THE ONE. And I don't think it is. But by the time we know for sure, the window of opportunity may be long gone. Hey, but at least SOME will have gone out without a mask on, which is their RIGHT.

It is unfortunate that the issue of mask wearing has become political. However, it is obvious that the posts above on the topic are getting political. Kewlj, AZD, and Axelwolf are all officially warned to drop the topic of masks.

Please take it up at DT.

Quote: Wizard

It is unfortunate that the issue of mask wearing has become political. However, it is obvious that the posts above on the topic are getting political. Kewlj, AZD, and Axelwolf are all officially warned to drop the topic of masks.

Please take it up at DT.

I think politics is is one of the closest activities to gambling there is.

Can't help it if it makes some people's heads explode as a side effect.

Quote: Wizard

It is unfortunate that the issue of mask wearing has become political. However, it is obvious that the posts above on the topic are getting political. Kewlj, AZD, and Axelwolf are all officially warned to drop the topic of masks.

Please take it up at DT.

I have no clue what you are are talking about. I don't have a political bone in my body. Please explain, or, if you would, just let me know who complained and I will understand your intrusion. The discussion has been far more "political" up until this point. It leaves me wondering why
all of the sudden there is a warning. Why is it, whenever I'm right, warnings start to come in...

When can we get a washroom attendant to make sure everyone washes their hands?

Probably should make sure teens aren't spooning without masks also.

NOTE TO MANAGEMENT--said without the "M-word." If you feel still in violation delete.

Quote: kewlj

Several years from now, when death rates are 50, 60, 70%, and we are powerless with civilization is on the brink of ending, we might look back and say, we had the power to end this when the virus was in it's infancy just by wearing a damn mask for a few months and smothering out this virus before it could strengthen and mutate to the point that we couldn't control it.

Mankind only has about 1000 years left in any case. Fertility rates show this. It is possible a virus will take mankind, or at least knock us down enough that population growth is in a figurative intensive care unit similar to what the Black Death did. We have been on a good run as said Black Death was 700 years ago. Smallpox, the biggest thing since, has been eradicated. This has allowed for amazing population growth the last 200 years.

But man is not more powerful than nature. Some of us think we are, but we are not. We think we can stop water, but we cannot, we can merely hold most of it back for a limited time. We build and marvel at roads that are in very inhospitable places, they you have a washout like recently in CA. We think we can just stop a virus at will, but as the last year has proven that is not possible, either. Then excuses and complaints that it was not stopped.

You need to accept that nature is more powerful than man. The people that do are the calm ones these days. The ones that don't are the ones blaming all kinds of things.

I accept that when my number is up it is up. Hopefully I get a place in heaven afterwards, and hopefully up there I will be able to adopt a dog who had no good family in this life.

Quote: AxelWolf

I have no clue what you are are talking about. I don't have a political bone in my body. Please explain, or, if you would, just let me know who complained and I will understand your intrusion. The discussion has been far more "political" up until this point. It leaves me wondering why
all of the sudden there is a warning. Why is it, whenever I'm right, warnings start to come in...

This is the comment that I was referring to, " I still belive [sic] had we done a much more rigorous proper lock down accros [sic] the world we could have confined much sooner. Unfortunately, I don't know if that was ever even a remote possibility. "