When will casinos open?
Huge potential for contagion. Look what happened at the meat plant in South Dakota.
I honestly have no clue how this can be done safely. My worry is that those in the decision process don't either.
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Seems like I received closure announcement's within days of each other.
Then silence for a week and suddenly a whole slew of "here are online alternative" emails
Then silence for a week and suddenly a slew of we missed you Here are what we are doing to protect your account status emails
Then a week of silence and suddenly a slew of here is what we are doing for the community and our employees announcement's
It's like one casino sends something and then the others monitor that and quickly compete with their own
Quote: darkozHas anyone noticed the casinos all seem to be in sync with their announcement's.
Seems like I received closure announcement's within days of each other.
Then silence for a week and suddenly a whole slew of "here are online alternative" emails
Then silence for a week and suddenly a slew of we missed you Here are what we are doing to protect your account status emails
Then a week of silence and suddenly a slew of here is what we are doing for the community and our employees announcement's
It's like one casino sends something and then the others monitor that and quickly compete with their own
That's business 301. I try to be on all my competitors mailing lists. Counter planning is a major part of marketing.
Table Mountain Fresno - May 31st
Chukchansi and Tachi Palace, no date.
Eagle Mountain and Mono Wind - May 1st
All unlikely, in my opinion. And if casinos never open again, for eternity, then "no date" is also unlikely.
Quote: rxwineCan't see them opening without using a reduced population calculation. Mobs of weekend crowds of old, I can't imagine being allowed.
As far as Vegas goes...I'm hearing zip from the governor on blueprints for opening, benchmarks, controls, limitations, masks, checks and balances.
I mean nothing. His only comment so far has been "we are no where close to opening".
If true and he plans on changing the May 1 date...he should be transparent. He hasn't been.
Quote: TDVegasAs far as Vegas goes...I'm hearing zip from the governor on blueprints for opening, benchmarks, controls, limitations, masks, checks and balances.
I mean nothing. His only comment so far has been "we are no where close to opening".
If true and he plans on changing the May 1 date...he should be transparent. He hasn't been.
If Vegas installed some sort of room gaming console in their hotel rooms you could play some inhouse games without leaving your room.
edit, and if that seems too dull, it could be used as a placeholder for a spot live downstairs while you wait for another guest to leave. (a cue line)
Quote: TDVegasAs far as Vegas goes...I'm hearing zip from the governor on blueprints for opening, benchmarks, controls, limitations, masks, checks and balances.
I mean nothing. His only comment so far has been "we are no where close to opening".
If true and he plans on changing the May 1 date...he should be transparent. He hasn't been.
I'm thinking he will follow suit with the West Coast. With the coast and the entire North East still sheltering in, can the casino afford to open with half their business gone?
Quote: rxwineIf Vegas installed some sort of room gaming console in their hotel rooms you could play some inhouse games without leaving your room.
edit, and if that seems too dull, it could be used as a placeholder for a spot live downstairs while you wait for another guest to leave. (a cue line)
I think before that happens they will just allow internet gambling like New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Then people can gamble at home and the casinos still make money.
Quote: DRichI think before that happens they will just allow internet gambling like New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Then people can gamble at home and the casinos still make money.
Maybe it's time for a new themed casino. Moon Base. Everyone wears a space suit.
Seriously though, casinos must be thinking through various possibilities while shut down, or time's a wastin'.
Does anyone think they will open soon?
Stock surges 15%.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/16/gilead-stock-surges-after-report-says-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-encouraging-early-results.html
Quote: TDVegasStock futures surge 700 points on encouraging results on treatment drug from Gilead science.
Stock surges 15%.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/16/gilead-stock-surges-after-report-says-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-encouraging-early-results.html
If this or any other drug for that matter has a significant impact on fatalities, people are going to get dizzy on how fast this whole situation starts turning around.
Quote: rxwineIf this or any other drug for that matter has a significant impact on fatalities, people are going to get dizzy on how fast this whole situation starts turning around.
World needs some good news. For now...I'll take it.
GILD
+2.55%
Gilead Sciences Inc. GILD, +2.55% shares rallied in the extended session Thursday following a report that one of the company's drugs showed promising results in treating COVID-19 patients. Gilead shares surged 12% after hours, following a 2.6% rise to finish Thursday's session at $76.54. Late Thursday, health-care media site Stat reported that nearly all 125 COVID-19 patients in a late-stage clinical study at the University of Chicago treated with Gilead's remdesivir had been discharged after a week of treatment. Stat reported that 113 patients had a severe form of the disease and that two had died. The University of Chicago results, however, are only part of a larger study group that includes 2,400 patients with a severe form of COVID-19 and 1,600 ones with a moderate form. Gilead expects to start releasing results in April. Last week, an analysis published in the New England Journal of Medicine claimed most COVID-19 patients given remdesivir showed clinical improvement.
Quote: TDVegasStock futures surge 700 points on encouraging results on treatment drug from Gilead science.
Stock surges 15%.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/16/gilead-stock-surges-after-report-says-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-encouraging-early-results.html
Hope onenickelmiracle didn’t sell his holdings.
Might be good news and it seems we are at least starting to round the corner...new cases seemed to have peaked and reopenings might begin on May 1.Quote: TDVegasStock futures surge 700 points on encouraging results on treatment drug from Gilead science
That said, I don’t see why the Dow should be anywhere above 23,500 (about 20% below peak) until this is clearly behind us. 20,000 seems more like it. 20% isn’t even a big drop and we were probably due for a correction anyway
I hope Remdesivir does really help.... a pill is way simpler....
Quote: SOOPOOThere are so many coronavirus threads, I can't remember which one, but I posted weeks ago that my ID friend, based in Vegas, was only using Remdesivir out of all the options. But he thinks the best option will be the convalescent serum.... the antibodies from recovering people.
I hope Remdesivir does really help.... a pill is way simpler....
In some articles, it's being said that we gave China Remdesivir as a charitable act. And the Chinese communists got a patent on it.
Quote: SOOPOOThere are so many coronavirus threads, I can't remember which one, but I posted weeks ago that my ID friend, based in Vegas, was only using Remdesivir out of all the options. But he thinks the best option will be the convalescent serum.... the antibodies from recovering people.
I hope Remdesivir does really help.... a pill is way simpler....
From what I am reading the convalescent method is beholden to antibodies and therefore restricted in quantity
In the end though I hope Remdesvir works. I have no financial interest in Leronlimab from my other thread.
My "interest" is solely in having treatment that eliminates the high mortality rate
Because that is the real key to getting us back open
The news was a leak from an uncontrolled testing.
Nearly every patient got better although.
But there was no control test.
We are still awaiting full testing data.
I hope this is great news but if a company was going to do a pump and dump it sure worked today
Quote: billryanThe most profitable revenue streams in Vegas were shows and nightclubs.
Does anyone think they will open soon?
In most casinos the most profitable revenue streams are slots. Nothing else is even close.
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Quote: unJonHope onenickelmiracle didn’t sell his holdings.
Even worse, shorted my first stock today and it was it. Hari Kari time. Net gain for me, I was the fool no matter what on this one. I'd been buying and selling the stock, bad timing to get frisky, just when I became impatient and thought to start playing the swings, I get burned. It'll be ok, I don't need home runs, just need something more than nothing. I'll gain overall, it'll be fine. That's the shit, I read all the artitcles, and thought most of the criticism was weak, but wound up becoming a non-believer for just a day, and that day counted. Didn't think anything like this would happen for a few weeks. It hurts, but doesn't hurt that bad. It's more prideful than anything. Blows, I sold MSFT, and it was at a top at the time, second I sold it, it fell $3 instantly, and I was like cool , saved $150. Now every stock is blowing up. What to do, what to do, cover now or wait for GILD to fall some. The articles will say, they did it, but for no payoff, but how high will the stock rise before then? In the mean time, I'm waiting for it to fall, I can be in anything else and ride a rally for some time. GILD will never deserve to be very high because of remdesivir, unless COVID becomes epidemic we never get rid of like the flu, but they're under pressure to not make profit. I don't understand how they can do this after spending maybe 500 million on it. They're not a charity.
We still have a long way out on our hands barring unforeseen miracles. On paper, I still came out a big winner overall, it's not as good as if I just stayed put 100 times though. This is going to be the embarrassing part of the what I did during lockdown story. How it ends depends on what sticks. C'est le vie. I think I might just cover it, it'll probably bust up as soon as the market opens, tough call. Thinking after a few hours, it starts coming under $89 where it is now, but I'm not sure. Could be $100 at close today. Could be $100 at open, nobody knows. There are a lot of shorts on the stock and a lot of people already buying, will they want to capture a gain which won't stick? IDK. Talk about uncertainty and a dilemma for me. I can say EF my luck, but I'm usually on the good side of luck. I should probably be dead if not for luck. Crap maybe I'll cover and buy GILD. I'm not sure I even can, if I decide to buy I might be stuck, I think I'm banned from day trading where I have the money shorted.
They have been coordinating closely with NJ and Connecticut so I don't expect any casinos in this region open before then
Quote: Zcore13In most casinos the most profitable revenue streams are slots. Nothing else is even close.
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Which is why Vegas is dedicating so much casino space to clubs, I suppose. I'm sure it matters where you are. An Indian casino in the middle of nowhere might not generate much from nitelife, but I'm talking about the Strip.
Quote: onenickelmiracleJust saw a video online talking about plans to reopen Vegas with 1/3 the rooms booked, dealers wearing masks, and table players being a chair between them empty. OMG. So max capacity playing 1/3. The rooms will be unfilled, local regional markets are going to have to have state police keeping people off the properties. It'll be the first phase of course, as soon as there are masks for people to buy, it will change or if some other reason.
I don't see how table games will work at all, with players sharing chips and cards. A chair between does little to stop the virus on those.
Touch chips, touch card, no problem, don't touch face and wash hand after. Does it really have to be more difficult that that?
Quote: bobbartopCentral California:
Table Mountain Fresno - May 31st
Chukchansi and Tachi Palace, no date.
Eagle Mountain and Mono Wind - May 1st
All unlikely, in my opinion. And if casinos never open again, for eternity, then "no date" is also unlikely.
So they need a date for never opening again?
Quote: beachbumbabsI don't see how table games will work at all, with players sharing chips and cards. A chair between does little to stop the virus on those.
Frankly, the people who show up when it opens won't be very concerned about their health.
Quote: cf1984I think each table will need hand sanitizer dispensers. If you need to touch your face for something, sterilize first. Just can't see how they can continue to allow smoking in this new world. Smokers put the butt to their lips over and over and then touch the cards, chips, machines. Disgusting to be begin with but now with this virus, just not feasible.
It's a Catch -22. Smokers that aren't worried about their health might turn out to be a large portion of the people willing to show up when they reopen.
Quote: billryanIt's a Catch -22. Smokers that aren't worried about their health might turn out to be a large portion of the people willing to show up when they reopen.
That's the whole truth casinos don't want to admit. Smokers are more likely to be the gambling addicts. That's why casinos allow it yet when they claim to care about the health of employees and patrons. Maybe they will require patrons to wear masks initially too so that would eliminate the option in the beginning, at least.
They will need to have either workers readily available to sanitize machines or wipe dispensers. I know I would want to sanitize a machine when sitting down to play.
This would also be a good time to reevaluate the W2G increase that was talked about. Bumping it to 5k would eliminate some close interactions as well as save money on labor. I'm sure things like these aren't on the front burner for the general population though.
1) to smoke they are negating any face mask rules as they will have to lower those during smoking
2) smoking is the very definition of sending particles from a person mouth through the air.
There is simply no way a person with Coronavirus can exhale smoke from his lungs through the air and it doesn't contain infected virus particles
Quote: darkozSmokers also cause two other issues
1) to smoke they are negating any face mask rules as they will have to lower those during smoking
2) smoking is the very definition of sending particles from a person mouth through the air.
There is simply no way a person with Coronavirus can exhale smoke from his lungs through the air and it doesn't contain infected virus particles
I'm pretty sure that even the non-smokers will have to exhale from time to time. I don't see how your second concern is specific to smokers?
Quote: beachbumbabsI don't see how table games will work at all, with players sharing chips and cards. A chair between does little to stop the virus on those.
The people who are worried will stay at home. The rest of us will be trying to get a normal life back. I'm ready to go to the tables now.
Quote: MidwestAPI'm pretty sure that even the non-smokers will have to exhale from time to time. I don't see how your second concern is specific to smokers?
So you think non-smokers can't exhale through their face mask thereby stopping the spread of the virus?
And you believe smokers will exhale WITH their face masks covering their nose and mouth???
I mean these should be pretty evident differences
I can't even say "nice try". Horrible try is more like it
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/34514-the-thread-to-irritate-about-not-smoking-in-casinos/
Quote: onenickelmiracleDo you people mind putting that out? It's bothering me. There is already another thread for the talking about not smoking.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/34514-the-thread-to-irritate-about-not-smoking-in-casinos/
Casinos cannot open until health issues involving Coronavirus are figured out.
Smoking involves exhaled breath which is what facilitates the spread of Coronavirus therefore becomes part of the conversation as to when they will reopen.
Sorry!
I forgot you were a scientist.Quote: darkozCasinos cannot open until health issues involving Coronavirus are figured out.
Smoking involves exhaled breath which is what facilitates the spread of Coronavirus therefore becomes part of the conversation as to when they will reopen.
Sorry!
I don’t see how it can be allowed, at least until we get a vaccine. Not only non smokers will be at risk but all employees as they walk thru clouds of vape and smoke.
Not to mention the “touching” issues that apply to those constantly bringing their fingers to their mouth and face to puff. Then touching cards, touching chips, money, etc.
I seriously would recommend face masks for all. Then smoking becomes a non issue. You can’t do it.
Quote: billryanMGM is buried in debt. Could they be better off taking the Federal bailout if they can kick their debt down the road?
MGM was able to cut their debt in half when they sold off properties. They don’t have cash concerns for a long while.
