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January 6th, 2020 at 4:46:13 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

As one that works with Nevada Gaming regulators often, I believe the agent saying they are allowed to do it. I think it is a horrible practice and I have never heard of a casino with that policy.




This practice lowers the expected return of the game with optimal play to some unknown amount potentially lower than what regulators have approved. Seems to me that it would not be allowed.
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January 6th, 2020 at 4:46:38 PM permalink
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This is the one thing that doesn't make sense in her story. If she saw a multiplier, wouldn't she play it off right away? for fear that someone else would beat her to it? So not sure how she would notice a multiplier, but not play it.

I asked her the same type of question. Apparently, she noticed the multipliers and went to get money. As she came back and walked into the high-limit room she seen it happening as she was walking towards the machines. This might not be 100% accurate what she said, I didn't pay much attention or drill her on that aspect, because ss said earlier, there's absolutely no reason for her to suddenly call me and tell me about this.

I don't even know how they" delete" multipliers? Does a simple machine reset do this?

And, I don't know why she would go through all the effort to call Gaming if she wasn't certain about the situation.
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January 6th, 2020 at 4:52:50 PM permalink
The other thing he believes is that if a slot machine (not a progressive, anyway not talking about the amount of jackpot) has not paid off in a long time that it is more likely to pay off now. He texted me the other night and kept trying to get me to come in and put some money in the high limit machine to keep it going while he went off to get more money, because he had run out, and the manager wouldn't hold the machine for him.

I kept trying to explain to him that each spin of the reels was an independent event and had nothing to do with prior wins or lack of wins, but he wouldn't buy it and actually got upset at me (but apologized the next day).

He said there were vultures standing over him eager to take over the machine, and that when he offered to JV with one of them the guy refused, which means that my friend's not the only one who believes this nonsense.

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January 6th, 2020 at 5:01:03 PM permalink
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Are we talkin about a must hit Progressive?



Yes. Allegedly wiping majors, leaving the minor.
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January 6th, 2020 at 5:11:56 PM permalink
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Never played Wynn. Likely never will. Isn't he the guy who put in the triple zero roulette and capped craps odds at 2x, both in the last couple years? Or am I remembering wrong, and one of those was Venetian?



Wynn has at least one 000 roulette but it started at Venetian as did the everything under $50 6/5 thing. Per John Mehaffey (sp?) who I believe is a member and I believe helped compile the blackjack survey here a few years ago, the number of 000 roulette tables in LV went from the from the 3 at V/P in 2017, to 25 in 2018, to 60 in 2019 including infecting downtown. Venetian now has 000 video roulette as well I believe.
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January 6th, 2020 at 6:13:30 PM permalink
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Or am I remembering wrong, and one of those was Venetian?



It was the Venetian.
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January 6th, 2020 at 6:16:27 PM permalink
As to the OP, if this is true, I would be happy to expose it. Morally, I think it is the same as lowering a progressive jackpot, which casinos may not do except if specifically allowed by Gaming to give the money back to players another way. This is rarely done, usually only in a case of a casino going out of business.

I would like to get more first hand evidence of this. Might there be a written report from Gaming about this?
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January 6th, 2020 at 7:27:01 PM permalink
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The Gaming agent on the phone explained to her they were allowed to do this as long as the machine sat idle for at least 16 minutes.



If this (the 16 minute rule) were true, I would think the machines would be programmed to reset the board after 16 minutes of inactivity. Why would an employee have to manually reset? Seems odd to me.
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January 6th, 2020 at 7:42:58 PM permalink
If she was allowed to video record this. Then we'd have proof. I believe that this is one of the reasons why casino's prohibit recording. I know of an old known trick that would be exposed if recording was allowed.
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January 6th, 2020 at 8:06:58 PM permalink
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As to the OP, if this is true, I would be happy to expose it. Morally, I think it is the same as lowering a progressive jackpot, which casinos may not do except if specifically allowed by Gaming to give the money back to players another way. This is rarely done, usually only in a case of a casino going out of business.

I would like to get more first hand evidence of this. Might there be a written report from Gaming about this?

I can get you in contact with her. I have a feeling she would love to speak to you about this.
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