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March 21st, 2019 at 6:19:08 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I was thinking more along the lines of keeping the other hustlers from getting out of line and competing, thus pushing up the market value of the free play. I don't recall if it was DO that mentioned it, but
I seem to recall somome said it got to the point where the amount being offered for the free play(CPH) was fairly high. It seemed to me they were cutting the profit margin down to only a few bucks. That triggered me and I wasn't even involved.


I also seem to remember there being a bidding war for AOS's 5K in free play and perhaps some others as well. Next thing you know it's up to 90% of face.(I wonder what Munchkin paid for it?) AP's shouldn't be bidding up the price of this stuff. There may have been a few hundred profit to be had at that point. It would have been better just to make a deal with the other serious interested parties and got it for 50% and then split up the profits.



thats now how business works. So in your theory my competitors and I should join together and instead of us each charging 5% there could be 1 company and charge 12%? Isnt that a monopoly and that the FTC tries to prevent from happening?
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March 21st, 2019 at 6:25:03 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

You are too jaded. Coupon runs are fun when they are once a year. Back when the LVA was more social, I went on a couple group runs that were interesting. Just getting away from the strip is +EV.



I actually like doing coupon runs. Last year we went downtown and did all the coupons. It took maybe 3 hours and only made like $100. I didnt keep track so it may have been more, but we also played a few slots that we had never seen before. Anyways. we walked away with a profit over 3 hours and still got to gamble. If we were not doing this we would have probably been playing VP or some crappy slots and lost 200. So it was a $300 swing. But I also had fun doing it. I am still doing the spirit match play offer at the D no matter what she says.

This time on Monday and Sunday morning she wants to get up and go to the pool. blahh
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March 21st, 2019 at 6:41:35 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

You are too jaded. Coupon runs are fun when they are once a year. Back when the LVA was more social, I went on a couple group runs that were interesting. Just getting away from the strip is +EV.



Bill, did you ever participate in any of the LVA get togethers? I met a few good people through those that I still stay in touch with. I met my wife there as well, she was an administrator of the LVA forum and worked for LVA.
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March 21st, 2019 at 6:48:15 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I was thinking more along the lines of keeping the other hustlers from getting out of line and competing, thus pushing up the market value of the free play. I don't recall if it was DO that mentioned it, but
I seem to recall somome said it got to the point where the amount being offered for the free play(CPH) was fairly high. It seemed to me they were cutting the profit margin down to only a few bucks. That triggered me and I wasn't even involved.


I also seem to remember there being a bidding war for AOS's 5K in free play and perhaps some others as well. Next thing you know it's up to 90% of face.(I wonder what Munchkin paid for it?) AP's shouldn't be bidding up the price of this stuff. There may have been a few hundred profit to be had at that point. It would have been better just to make a deal with the other serious interested parties and got it for 50% and then split up the profits.



Yeah that happened at the Sands.

$45 freeplay was being sold for $40.

I think you remember the play though in the wrong direction. The hustlers werent the people buying the fp. Those were customers whose addiction was so bad fhey wanted even a $5 advantage

The hustlers were the bus travelers who were taking a bus for $15 and selling their offers for $40 thereby locking up $25 profit per trip.

When the Sands tightened the games freeplay could be played on (eliminated bj and vp primarily) the price of the fp dropped as the customers wanted more value from the fp purchased
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March 21st, 2019 at 7:16:35 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I actually like doing coupon runs. Last year we went downtown and did all the coupons. It took maybe 3 hours and only made like $100. I didnt keep track so it may have been more, but we also played a few slots that we had never seen before. Anyways. we walked away with a profit over 3 hours and still got to gamble. If we were not doing this we would have probably been playing VP or some crappy slots and lost 200. So it was a $300 swing. But I also had fun doing it. I am still doing the spirit match play offer at the D no matter what she says.

This time on Monday and Sunday morning she wants to get up and go to the pool. blahh


Whatís the spirit match play? I think someone has mentioned that on here before.
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March 21st, 2019 at 7:34:52 AM permalink
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Whatís the spirit match play? I think someone has mentioned that on here before.



The D casino was giving a $50 match play if you showed a Spirit Airlines boarding pass.
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March 21st, 2019 at 7:43:12 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

The D casino was giving a $50 match play if you showed a Spirit Airlines boarding pass.



But you have to fly Spirit, so itís -EV when you consider the hassle of being treated like a Spirit customer.

Easier $50 to be made in the back restroom by check in at 2PM sharp. Of at least it says so in the stall.
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March 21st, 2019 at 7:59:27 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

The D casino was giving a $50 match play if you showed a Spirit Airlines boarding pass.



DAMN IT DRICH. I was going to sell the info to him for a beer
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March 21st, 2019 at 8:07:39 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

But you have to fly Spirit, so itís -EV when you consider the hassle of being treated like a Spirit customer.

Easier $50 to be made in the back restroom by check in at 2PM sharp. Of at least it says so in the stall.



lol that is funny.

On a serious note. I have flown spirit 14 times now and never had a single issue. Planes are normal planes. I like when I hear people say they are using bad planes. They are actually newer than most airlines have since they are a younger company with expansion than some of the other ones. The seats are a little tight but I am a fat guy and have enough room.

My flight in vegas in may is $240 for 2 people round trip from the east coast.

I have never even had bad customer experience on spirit either.
There is definitely an issue though if you need to call them. I once waited on hold for 2 hours to ask a simple question.

I only have 1 concern when flying them and that is not getting cancelled on. After 14 flights I have not had an issue. I have been cancelled on 2 times by Delta and 1 time by United. 1 delta and 1 united I got rescheduled later in the day. The other delta I was on the last flight of the day and had to wait until the next day which sucked. The problem though with Spirit is they usually only have 1 flight a day so if that one gets cancelled there is no other flight to get put onto. They will let you get a refund or rebook on the next day but the flights are usually full and they have 200 people who just got cancelled on trying to get onto the next flight so basically if you get cancelled on you are screwed and will be either paying last min on another flight or you will cancel your plans. I would never fly spirit when going to something important or a cruise.

As for PGs question. The D gives you $50 match play if you show them a boarding pass within 24 hours of the landing. They do not advertise it much but as of last year they were still doing it. Last time I used that plus the $25 LVA match play. Between the 2 of us we had $150 in match play.
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March 21st, 2019 at 8:14:32 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

DAMN IT DRICH. I was going to sell the info to him for a beer


I never fly Spirit so that would have been a tough sell.

As far as crap planes you would all be scared at some of the planes that Iíve flown on overseas lol.
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