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rsactuary
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January 18th, 2019 at 8:56:08 PM permalink
Funny, Fox had nothing on their website all day today about the BuzzFeed report, now that Mueller has commented as he has.. it's headline material.
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January 18th, 2019 at 9:04:40 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Funny, Fox had nothing on their website all day today about the BuzzFeed report, now that Mueller has commented as he has.. it's headline material.

What would you suggest that they should have had that would be more advanced than Thursday night?
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January 18th, 2019 at 11:22:38 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Could be
The key phrase from Mueller is "not accurate"
regardless, nobody except Mueller and his closest investigators know whats going on
I'm waiting for the report
I'm actually a bit taken aback how long this has been going on.
Cmon Mueller, show your hand. What are you holding? Do you have a hand or are you taking so long because you are on a draw
I'm thinking the more time Mueller takes, the worse it is for Trump
I cant imagine Mueller taking this long and then coming up with a nothing burger



I don't think any president has been persecuted to the extent Trump has been. It is amazing how clean Trump really is. Not many could stand up to the scrutiny he has.
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January 19th, 2019 at 12:09:27 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

I don't think any president has been persecuted to the extent Trump has been. It is amazing how clean Trump really is. Not many could stand up to the scrutiny he has.



Persecuted?

Maybe you should spend a day or two comparing the sordid history of Trump to Pence just to see the difference in what a relatively clean person is compared to one who isn't.

Pence is a kinda of smarmy suckup whose views I don't agree with, but the guy probably wouldn't keep an extra dollar not his own.
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January 19th, 2019 at 2:29:09 AM permalink
So sad, Mueller gave Buzzfeed the Buzzkill.
CNN and MS used the impeach word 200
times + yesterday. All for nothing. Keep
dreaming,,
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 19th, 2019 at 4:05:17 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So sad, Mueller gave Buzzfeed the Buzzkill.
CNN and MS used the impeach word 200
times + yesterday. All for nothing. Keep
dreaming,,



So you like Mueller now?
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
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January 19th, 2019 at 4:21:55 AM permalink
No issues with the TSA at DTW this morning. The regular line seemed a little longer than usual, but nothing crazy. The Pre-Check line was even shorter than usual and I flew right through.

EDIT: Delta flight overbooked, looking for volunteers to wait for the noon flight, offered a $500 gift card. Not enough takers. Upped the offer to a $700 AMEX gift card. I jumped on that offer! First win of the trip.


Can’t wait to see what Donald has to say about the shutdown at 3 today. /sarcasm
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January 19th, 2019 at 4:34:55 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

I don't think any president has been persecuted to the extent Trump has been.



You don't think?????????????
LOL. How old are you? Trump the 1st election for you? lol
How about doing some thinking
Sure the Left is attacking Trump just as hard as the right attacked Obama and Bill Clinton
Yea Trump is as scared of Mueller as Bill Clinton was scared of Ken Starr
The right was absolutely livid when Clinton and Obama were President and the attacks they received from the right were just as brutal as what' going on today except the tables are turned
Poor little Donald Trump. Give me a break. You run for President and win, expect attacks from the other side of the aisle. That's reality.
I don't see the attacks on Trump any more brutal then what Nixon got
Try thinking Maxpen :-)
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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January 19th, 2019 at 5:17:28 AM permalink
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It's calculated on an hourly basis, on your work schedule. 8 hours is a standard workday, but some work 9 or 10 on a regular basis. However, a leave day is always charged on an 8 hour basis, so the carry-over is 30 days.if you take a half day off, you're charged 4 hours. The smallest increment they charge is in 10th of an hour, or 6 minutes, but you earn full hours.

There are jobs where you can have a schedule longer than 10 hours, like federal firefighters, but ATC is restricted by DOT mandated rest to 10/day, clock starts at midnight local.

Leave is earned on an hourly basis. For your first 3 years you earn 104 hours Annual, and 104 sick leave per year. After 3 years, you earn 156 annual per year. After 15 years, you earn 208 annual. Sick leave stays at 104, but you can bank it indefinitely.

I've known a couple people who cashed out at retirement with 2000+ hours sick leave and the full 240 annual, but we all hate them, because they work sick and make everybody around them sick. We all share the equipment relieving each other, so you're constantly touching keyboards and consoles, not to mention working really close physically to the next guy.



Thanks Babs - so, after 15 years, you get 208 hours annual vacation PLUS 104 hours sick leave?
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January 19th, 2019 at 6:03:03 AM permalink
Trump is a guy who his whole life has gotten away with doing whatever he sees as being best for him

he has little or no regard for business or personal ethics and in some cases no regard for legality

if you asked his core base whether or not he should skate even if he's broken the law most of them would say let him skate

will he ever not get away with his BS? who knows?

here is how I would price it:

Trump gets away with all his illegal and unethical BS:............................ -180
Trump gets nailed...................................................................................................+150
Please don't feed the trolls
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January 19th, 2019 at 6:16:04 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

I don't think any president has been persecuted to the extent Trump has been.




look who's talking
you persecuted Obama with your bonehead profile picture implying falsely that he's a Muslim
you also meant to falsely imply that most Muslims are terrorists or bad people

look in the mirror
what do you see?
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January 19th, 2019 at 7:04:50 AM permalink
The media was absolutely BRUTAL against Obama in particular. I’m sure you all remember the protests before he was sworn in, calling for impeachment. “Impeach 44! Not my president!” Remember all the “bombshell reports” put out seemingly every week that turned to be nothingberders? How about all those times when Obama supporters were just eating a meal in a restaurant and they get yelled at and attacked for wearing an Obama “Hope” shirt (although that wasn’t attack by media)? Sad times. How about when Obama was talking about upping our security at the border? People called him racist for that. Remember when everyone was saying how Obama would just start a nuclear war with the push of a button, but he ended up trying to make peace with North Korea and he STILL got attacked for that? I distinctly remember Obama saying he’d make the economy much greater (I don’t remember the amount), and Trump was like, “What, do you have a magic wand or something?” Obama was ruthlessly fat-shamed (colloquially known as being “thicc af”) and made fun of for having beautiful orange skin.

Sorry for mansplaining, my toxic masculinity is flaring up again.
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January 19th, 2019 at 7:14:35 AM permalink
Quote: RS

The media was absolutely BRUTAL against Obama in particular.




Agree
Foxnews was 24/7 against Obama
They proclaim themselves number 1 news show in America
Cant any more mainstream as that with the number 1 news show totally against Obama

I am just amazed at conservatives playing the victim card
People joke that Trumps boss is Putin/Maxpen has an avatar of Obama dressed as a Muslim
Its tit for tat on both sides

We live in a multi media world
Everybody chooses the news outlets they prefer
I could care less what Breibart or Fox reports
They are probably saying Trump is the greatest President ever
I am fine with that
but
You seem to be not fine with what I watch
Why?
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Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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January 19th, 2019 at 7:59:13 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Buzzfeed could be way off
or
They got it right except for some details

Until the Mueller report comes out, nobody knows


Quote: beachbumbabs

They seem to be leaning toward some details are maybe incorrect but the basic info is correct. I guess we'll see.

Really not good if they got it completely wrong. Gives ammo to attacking journalistic standards.


Following is the statement from Mueller’s team:

Quote:

“BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate."



Instead of one sentence, I will rewrite it into 3 statements without changing the meaning:


BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate."

BuzzFeed's characterization of documents obtained by this office regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate."

BuzzFeed's characterization of testimony obtained by this office regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate."

BBB: I also am not sure what details may or not be correct, but from Mueller's teams statement, it looks as if the basic info is incorrect.

I agree that we should wait until the until the report comes out and yes, whatever journalistic standards remain, did take a big hit.
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January 19th, 2019 at 9:31:31 AM permalink
Journalists has been taking hit after hit since they realized Trunp wouldn’t play their game like most Republicans did, and he actually had a chance to win.

The only difference today is that more Americans are opening up to realizing how they have treated Trump.

He has the media and Dems backstepping and hopefully he shoves it down their throats today at 3.

#MAGA #WINNING
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January 19th, 2019 at 9:32:50 AM permalink
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I have no clue how WIC works, but where can I buy me some food stamps for 50% on the dollar? I would buy the FK out of that(hook a brother up). Unfortunately, I'm sure its illegal for both the seller and buyer.(?)


Hang out at ghetto grocery stores I guess.

Just yesterday someone approached me at the store near the checkout lanes and said he would put all my groceries on his SNAP card for 1/2 the cost in cash.

The reason he gave is that he needed diapers and wipes for his daughter, which I assume are not covered by food stamps.

FWIW I didn’t take him up on it.
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January 19th, 2019 at 9:58:24 AM permalink
As I commented to BBB, "if true". BuzzFeed took a risk and failed. To those on the right that says, "aha", how many times did Foxnews bend the news, take lesser sources as reliable or use online polls as truth. To those on the left that took BuzzFeed as a reliable news source, come on.

All cable news is not MSM, including Fox or CNN. Nightly news audiences and local news are watched 10x more than Fox. As of this week,now that the midterms are over, there are more viewers watching maddow vs hannity (same time slot). But their audiences today are sub 700k, compared to the 9 million watching NBC nightly news or the 9.5 watching ABC WNT.

Journalistic standards have not taken a hit. Trump would like you to believe that they have, but you have to consider the source for any news source and discern bias in the reporting by looking for key words and phrases that show bias. And you have to go to the background source for reliability. It's easy to do, but people are lazy and just believe sources that back their perception. Reality augmentation.
----- You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
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January 19th, 2019 at 10:04:55 AM permalink
A Congressman from California is giving a speech when someone from the Republican seating section yells out "Go back to Puerto Rico". Congressman walks over to the area and asks who said it. Approximately 50 White Republicans say they have no idea who said it. Some claim they didn't even hear it. Hours later, a representative of one tries to explain the mark wasn't at all racists.
Not the man himself, he sends out someone to try and explain. Honest Abe would be so proud of his party.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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January 19th, 2019 at 10:36:57 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

A Congressman from California is giving a speech when someone from the Republican seating section yells out "Go back to Puerto Rico". Congressman walks over to the area and asks who said it. Approximately 50 White Republicans say they have no idea who said it. Some claim they didn't even hear it. Hours later, a representative of one tries to explain the mark wasn't at all racists.
Not the man himself, he sends out someone to try and explain. Honest Abe would be so proud of his party.



It's worth noting that speech was being given on the House floor.
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January 19th, 2019 at 11:19:55 AM permalink
--It is rude for anyone to interrupt a speech on the floors of Congress.

--In this case, assuming "Go back to Puerto Rico" is racist is asinine. It was a stupid and rude comment but, absent something like proof of racism being intended, the assumption should only be that he wished whoever was speaking would go back where they were last weekend.

I don't know if the representative went on the trip or not, but this appears to be a jab at the trip and not at someone's race.
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January 19th, 2019 at 11:37:41 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

As I commented to BBB, "if true". BuzzFeed took a risk and failed. To those on the right that says, "aha", how many times did Foxnews bend the news, take lesser sources as reliable or use online polls as truth. To those on the left that took BuzzFeed as a reliable news source, come on.

All cable news is not MSM, including Fox or CNN. Nightly news audiences and local news are watched 10x more than Fox. As of this week,now that the midterms are over, there are more viewers watching maddow vs hannity (same time slot). But their audiences today are sub 700k, compared to the 9 million watching NBC nightly news or the 9.5 watching ABC WNT.

Journalistic standards have not taken a hit. Trump would like you to believe that they have, but you have to consider the source for any news source and discern bias in the reporting by looking for key words and phrases that show bias. And you have to go to the background source for reliability. It's easy to do, but people are lazy and just believe sources that back their perception. Reality augmentation.



Look at all the time the big three networks reported on Buzzfeed's acticle:

Networks Spend Over 27 Minutes on Dubious BuzzFeed Trump Story

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/01/19/networks-spend-over-27-minutes-dubious-buzzfeed-trump-story

Quote:

Despite the fact that the BuzzFeed News story was not confirmed by — well — any news outlet from when it was first published to the statement from Mueller’s team, the broadcast networks devoted 27 minutes and 33 second on their Friday morning and evening newscasts (minus opening teases) to a story that, for lack of a better term, has been sunk.

All three networks pointed to the questionable veracity of the BuzzFeed piece by Anthony Cormier and Jason Leopold to some degree, but each still gave it coverage with two dithering away over 10 minutes each.

ABC led the way with 10 minutes and 32 seconds between Good Morning America and World News Tonight. Close behind was NBC, which had 10 minutes and five seconds during NBC Nightly News and Today on the Cohen claims. NBC had the longest uninterrupted span with a portion of Today’s coverage going uninterrupted for six minutes and 33 seconds.

In third place and showing the most restraint was CBS. On CBS This Morning and the CBS Evening News, they combined for only six minutes and 56 seconds of BuzzFeed coverage.

new motto for the left: “I don't know if I received bad information, but I think I suspected there was more than there actually was,” (John Brennan Mar 25, 2019)
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January 19th, 2019 at 11:39:04 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

I don't know if the representative went on the trip or not, but this appears to be a jab at the trip and not at someone's race.


exactly
new motto for the left: “I don't know if I received bad information, but I think I suspected there was more than there actually was,” (John Brennan Mar 25, 2019)
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January 19th, 2019 at 11:55:42 AM permalink
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FWIW I didn’t take him up on it.

You just lost your AP card.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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January 19th, 2019 at 12:23:40 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

--It is rude for anyone to interrupt a speech on the floors of Congress.

--In this case, assuming "Go back to Puerto Rico" is racist is asinine. It was a stupid and rude comment but, absent something like proof of racism being intended, the assumption should only be that he wished whoever was speaking would go back where they were last weekend.

I don't know if the representative went on the trip or not, but this appears to be a jab at the trip and not at someone's race.



Never let the facts get in the way of a liberals few moments of happiness in their life.
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January 19th, 2019 at 12:46:01 PM permalink
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I don't think any president has been persecuted to the extent Trump has been. It is amazing how clean Trump really is. Not many could stand up to the scrutiny he has.



Wins my personal award for silliest post of 2019 ( so far ). And that's saying something.
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January 19th, 2019 at 12:49:39 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Thanks Babs - so, after 15 years, you get 208 hours annual vacation PLUS 104 hours sick leave?



Yes. They're accounted for and used differently, have different priorities on being granted or denied, etc, but that's the accrual rate.
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January 19th, 2019 at 12:53:49 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

So you like Mueller now?



As much as I like poison ivy. He did
it to save his own ass from a leak
investigation. The clown at Buzzfeed
said it came from the Mueller team,
and that meant a leaker and that's
illegal.

See CNN today? It's like somebody died,
they're so depressed that victory was
so bluntly snatched from their slimy
clutches.. lol
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January 19th, 2019 at 12:55:57 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Yes. They're accounted for and used differently, have different priorities on being granted or denied, etc, but that's the accrual rate.

redacted
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January 19th, 2019 at 12:59:59 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Agree
Foxnews was 24/7 against Obama
They proclaim themselves number 1 news show in America
Cant any more mainstream as that with the number 1 news show totally against Obama

I am just amazed at conservatives playing the victim card
People joke that Trumps boss is Putin/Maxpen has an avatar of Obama dressed as a Muslim
Its tit for tat on both sides

We live in a multi media world
Everybody chooses the news outlets they prefer
I could care less what Breibart or Fox reports
They are probably saying Trump is the greatest President ever
I am fine with that
but
You seem to be not fine with what I watch
Why?


I don’t care what you watch. Just don’t think all (or any) news is always fair and/or never unbiased. It’s all messed up. I’m not saying all news is fake news, though.

However, I do care what they say, whether it’s CNN and MSNPC or breitbart & infowars (are those even news?), Fox, The Young Turds, or any other news. Fake news is the enemy of the people. It’s propaganda. It’s wrong.
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January 19th, 2019 at 1:03:59 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Just yesterday someone approached me at the store near the checkout lanes and said he would put all my groceries on his SNAP card for 1/2 the cost in cash.



Back in the cab days, drivers would get
offered food stamps as cash all the time.
A $10 ride would cost $20 in FS. In those
days stores didn't ID people using stamps.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 19th, 2019 at 1:04:02 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Just yesterday someone approached me at the store near the checkout lanes and said he would put all my groceries on his SNAP card for 1/2 the cost in cash.



Back in the cab days, drivers would get
offered food stamps as cash all the time.
A $10 ride would cost $20 in FS. In those
days stores didn't ID people using stamps.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 19th, 2019 at 1:28:36 PM permalink
https://www.readingeagle.com/news/article/reading-woman-sentenced-for-1-million-plus-in-food-stamp-fraud


Semi Regional guy, took EBT at anywhere from .30 to .50 on the EBT $1 depending on what you were getting. It was also a major Drug shop and of course you got less for your EBT dollar if you were a junkie. It went on for years, he was busted once and just reopened under his wife's name. Other corner stores in the city have taken up the slack. His bust changed nothing, and the fraud continues.
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January 19th, 2019 at 1:32:06 PM permalink
First mistake Trump made on his afternoon speech, after citing a litany of issues all going on long before this, he didn't get down on his knees and apologize for making it an emergency now.
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January 20th, 2019 at 12:43:39 AM permalink
even considering they were teenagers (they obviously get their BS from their parents) can you believe that 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅 to think that Native Americans are immigrants?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/us/covington-catholic-high-school-nathan-phillips.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
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January 20th, 2019 at 1:09:10 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

even considering they were teenagers (they obviously get their BS from their parents) can you believe that 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅 to think that Native Americans are immigrants?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/us/covington-catholic-high-school-nathan-phillips.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage

Christians doing to native Americans what they've always done.
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:01:44 AM permalink
Quote: RS

The media was absolutely BRUTAL against Obama in particular. I’m sure you all remember the protests before he was sworn in, calling for impeachment. “Impeach 44! Not my president!” Remember all the “bombshell reports” put out seemingly every week that turned to be nothingberders? How about all those times when Obama supporters were just eating a meal in a restaurant and they get yelled at and attacked for wearing an Obama “Hope” shirt (although that wasn’t attack by media)? Sad times. How about when Obama was talking about upping our security at the border? People called him racist for that. Remember when everyone was saying how Obama would just start a nuclear war with the push of a button, but he ended up trying to make peace with North Korea and he STILL got attacked for that? I distinctly remember Obama saying he’d make the economy much greater (I don’t remember the amount), and Trump was like, “What, do you have a magic wand or something?” Obama was ruthlessly fat-shamed (colloquially known as being “thicc af”) and made fun of for having beautiful orange skin.

Sorry for mansplaining, my toxic masculinity is flaring up again.




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January 20th, 2019 at 7:05:24 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Yes. They're accounted for and used differently, have different priorities on being granted or denied, etc, but that's the accrual rate.



So, if someone never takes a vacation or sick day, they can, presumably, "retire" early by using up all the stored hours?
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:13:02 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

So, if someone never takes a vacation or sick day, they can, presumably, "retire" early by using up all the stored hours?



I was a unionized county employee for some years and accumulated 700 or so sick hours. It is a RIDICULOUS amount. There is no limit to how many you can accumulate. I think I am limited to accumulating 480 hours of vacation time, but I use my vacation so have a few weeks in the bank. When I retire if I have any vacation time I'll get paid for it, but I'm planning on it being near zero. The sick time basically disappears; I get pension credit time for those hours but no money. It is worth a few dollars an hour. It would make sense for me to call in sick one day a week for the next 85 or so weeks from a purely financial/lifestyle perspective. I just can't get myself to call in sick when I am not. Oh well.
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:23:55 AM permalink
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I was a unionized county employee for some years and accumulated 700 or so sick hours. It is a RIDICULOUS amount. There is no limit to how many you can accumulate. I think I am limited to accumulating 480 hours of vacation time, but I use my vacation so have a few weeks in the bank. When I retire if I have any vacation time I'll get paid for it, but I'm planning on it being near zero. The sick time basically disappears; I get pension credit time for those hours but no money. It is worth a few dollars an hour. It would make sense for me to call in sick one day a week for the next 85 or so weeks from a purely financial/lifestyle perspective. I just can't get myself to call in sick when I am not. Oh well.



WOW - as you may or may not know - I joined a law firm about 6 months ago - my PTO does not kick in for another few weeks which is 16 days per year - however, I have been told the head of the firm (he owns it - no HR department) very much frowns on anyone using a day off on a Monday or Friday as he feels if someone calls in sick on one of those days they are "faking it" to get a three day weekend - also, I have been told that if you want to call in sick, unless you are in the hospital (with proof), you need to come into the office, tell the boss-man you are sick and then leave (lovely for me considering I commute about 1hr 45mins each way) -- most people just end up staying at work although sick (office manager worked two days last week with a 100+ fever -- I am just waiting to catch whatever she had as she coughed and sneezed her way through the days)
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:31:57 AM permalink
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even considering they were teenagers (they obviously get their BS from their parents) can you believe that 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅 to think that Native Americans are immigrants?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/us/covington-catholic-high-school-nathan-phillips.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage




I have been reading about this
I find the whole situation disgusting
What is it with some Trump supporters and their hate for somebody that is not white
The hate is appalling.
Now for the bizzarro world excuse for the hate
The kids mother is blaming Muslims and making absurd excuses
WTF

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/maga-hat-donald-trump-native-american-covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-black-muslims-a8737186.html
https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/ky-catholic-teens-maga-taunts-native-american/?fbclid=IwAR3qWtTdMEbWU9HoIo0kKneOIYnHEsB2-KBXMpsgXog9EkgW365GDjZPbFM

"In an email to this reporter, the mother of the student right up in Phillips’ face said the story was “fake news.” She claimed that Phillips, who she referred as a “this man,” in quotation marks, was drumming close to the teen’s face. But her biggest gripe, besides saying this reporter was promoting hate, was that she alleged the students were themselves harassed. By “black Muslims.”
“Shame on you! Were you there? Did you hear the names the people where calling these boys? It was shameful. Did you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and video taping trying to get something to futher (sic) your narrative of hatred?? Did you know that this “man” came up to this one boy and drummed in his face? Shame on you. Only reporting what you want. More fake news.”

If they don't come out with the video of phantom Black Muslims harassing them, you know the Mom is full of BS
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January 20th, 2019 at 8:33:07 AM permalink
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even considering they were teenagers (they obviously get their BS from their parents) can you believe that 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅 to think that Native Americans are immigrants?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/us/covington-catholic-high-school-nathan-phillips.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage



The actions of these young idiots are reprehensible.

Thankfully, idiots are not part of the vast majority of either side of the political aisle.
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January 20th, 2019 at 9:12:23 AM permalink
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/carlton-so-far-desantis-is-gov-not-scott-20190120/?fbclid=IwAR2DcldVruufB_pNAPj0x6b9P702ejeLOkdEoqacQIaVxzkvSJWeKRRcO-E


More false alarms from the libs on here in Florida who said the environment was their main issue. They said Desantis didn’t care about it. Instead he is DOING something about the problem that affects every Florida resident.

They pushed a crazy socialist who was a Bernie Sanders puppet and promised giveaways. Why? Because they wanted a Liberal Gov who would help whichever lunatic wins the Dem primary in 20.

The environmental concerns were a cover to push a socialist agenda. And yea, I really don’t think there is much of a Democratic Party anymore. Certainly not a working mans Democratic Party. Instead it’s a party of victimization and wealth distribution. A Party that sees the poor as incapable of making anything of their lives without their help. A party who wants criminals to be forgiven in the name of votes.

In this case common sense overcame hysteria and the people of Florida won. Maybe a lesson for the rest of the country.
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January 20th, 2019 at 10:51:06 AM permalink
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http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/carlton-so-far-desantis-is-gov-not-scott-20190120/?fbclid=IwAR2DcldVruufB_pNAPj0x6b9P702ejeLOkdEoqacQIaVxzkvSJWeKRRcO-E


More false alarms from the libs on here in Florida who said the environment was their main issue. They said Desantis didn’t care about it. Instead he is DOING something about the problem that affects every Florida resident.


I have to admit, so far Desantis is a lot better the Ric Scott
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January 20th, 2019 at 11:45:21 AM permalink
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Quote: lilredrooster

even considering they were teenagers (they obviously get their BS from their parents) can you believe that 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅 to think that Native Americans are immigrants?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/us/covington-catholic-high-school-nathan-phillips.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage




I have been reading about this
I find the whole situation disgusting
What is it with some Trump supporters and their hate for somebody that is not white
The hate is appalling.
Now for the bizzarro world excuse for the hate
The kids mother is blaming Muslims and making absurd excuses
WTF

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/maga-hat-donald-trump-native-american-covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-black-muslims-a8737186.html
https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/ky-catholic-teens-maga-taunts-native-american/?fbclid=IwAR3qWtTdMEbWU9HoIo0kKneOIYnHEsB2-KBXMpsgXog9EkgW365GDjZPbFM

"In an email to this reporter, the mother of the student right up in Phillips’ face said the story was “fake news.” She claimed that Phillips, who she referred as a “this man,” in quotation marks, was drumming close to the teen’s face. But her biggest gripe, besides saying this reporter was promoting hate, was that she alleged the students were themselves harassed. By “black Muslims.”
“Shame on you! Were you there? Did you hear the names the people where calling these boys? It was shameful. Did you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and video taping trying to get something to futher (sic) your narrative of hatred?? Did you know that this “man” came up to this one boy and drummed in his face? Shame on you. Only reporting what you want. More fake news.”

If they don't come out with the video of phantom Black Muslims harassing them, you know the Mom is full of BS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npX801xLSFY&t=245

Contains graphic language.
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January 20th, 2019 at 12:23:12 PM permalink
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I have to admit, so far Desantis is a lot better the Ric Scott



For weed and the environment, hard for most to argue with that!
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January 20th, 2019 at 12:24:53 PM permalink
Rep John Yarmuth (D-KY) calling for a Ban on Teenagers wearing MAGA Hats.

Can’t make this s@@t up.
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January 20th, 2019 at 12:27:55 PM permalink
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Quote: terapined

Quote: lilredrooster

even considering they were teenagers (they obviously get their BS from their parents) can you believe that 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅 to think that Native Americans are immigrants?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/us/covington-catholic-high-school-nathan-phillips.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage




I have been reading about this
I find the whole situation disgusting
What is it with some Trump supporters and their hate for somebody that is not white
The hate is appalling.
Now for the bizzarro world excuse for the hate
The kids mother is blaming Muslims and making absurd excuses
WTF

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/maga-hat-donald-trump-native-american-covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-black-muslims-a8737186.html
https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/ky-catholic-teens-maga-taunts-native-american/?fbclid=IwAR3qWtTdMEbWU9HoIo0kKneOIYnHEsB2-KBXMpsgXog9EkgW365GDjZPbFM

"In an email to this reporter, the mother of the student right up in Phillips’ face said the story was “fake news.” She claimed that Phillips, who she referred as a “this man,” in quotation marks, was drumming close to the teen’s face. But her biggest gripe, besides saying this reporter was promoting hate, was that she alleged the students were themselves harassed. By “black Muslims.”
“Shame on you! Were you there? Did you hear the names the people where calling these boys? It was shameful. Did you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and video taping trying to get something to futher (sic) your narrative of hatred?? Did you know that this “man” came up to this one boy and drummed in his face? Shame on you. Only reporting what you want. More fake news.”

If they don't come out with the video of phantom Black Muslims harassing them, you know the Mom is full of BS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npX801xLSFY&t=245

Contains graphic language.


Catholic high school and the Diocese of Covington issued an apology and condemnation of the the students’ behavior.

“We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person, The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion.”
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January 20th, 2019 at 12:34:05 PM permalink
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Rep John Yarmuth (D-KY) calling for a Ban on Teenagers wearing MAGA Hats.

Can’t make this s@@t up.


There are dumb Republicans
There are dumb Democrats
Obviously this is a dumb democrat
Here is the actual tweet

"I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats until we can figure out what is going on. They seem to be poisoning young minds"

I am against censorship. I may not like pants below the waist and Maga hats but I certainly don't want to see this banned
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January 20th, 2019 at 1:14:42 PM permalink
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"I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats until we can figure out what is going on. They seem to be poisoning young minds"



Figure out what made America Great Again?
It's pretty obvious, Trump did and is. Why
doesn't he just try and ban the Constitution,
that's what he's doing with the hat thing.
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January 20th, 2019 at 1:32:53 PM permalink
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So, if someone never takes a vacation or sick day, they can, presumably, "retire" early by using up all the stored hours?



That used to be true,, and people often did . Somewhat recently they changed the sick leave buy-out from 1 for 1 at your base rate to something less, trying to save themselves the big paycheck on retirement. That pretty much backfired on them, because people just started sicking out a lot once they were within range of retirement, in order to get full value of their banked SL.

I'm not sure how it's working now, but they tried to fire back with sick leave abuse discipline after that compensation change, and people trumped that by saying good luck with your ripoff of time I earned, here's my no-notice retirement paperwork. Enjoy spending OT money on my schedule. Etc.

But yeah, it's (was) very popular to retire with 1000+ hours of SL + 240 use or lose + 208 earned that year. You're "working" until Dec 31, but you're gone in, like, April. Sometimes people would take the SL+AL cashout, work their last day, and go out the door with 60k or so in their last check instead.
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