Trump's Second and Third year in office
I could go into detail on the results and how well the Dems performed in districts that Trump won in 2016, but I think we can sum it up with this:
The GOP base (Trump's base) is shrinking while the dem base is growing. Rural america is shrinking. Urban and suburban America is growing.
And the following tweet shows just how ignorant our President is:
“The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere, and many ballots are missing or forged. An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!”
He seriously thinks that counting votes ends on election night! I didn't realize that disenfranchising our troops stationed overseas was so popular with the GOP.
How anybody can continue to support this man is beyond comprehension.
So I’ve upgraded my opinion from disappointing to positive.
It was a huge defeat for trump. Tester kept his job as did Manchin in West Virginia. Given the election map, I'm not sure what else anyone thought would happen.
In NY, Republicans lost control of the State Senate for the first time in living memory.
Quote: billryantrump took credit for retiring Jeff Flake. Thanks to him, Democrats won Flakes seat in the Senate, retained the seat in congress that the new Senator gave up and won the seat that trumps candidate gave up to run for Senate.
Exact same thing happened to Mark Sanford's house seat. Trump picked a fight with him. He lost his primary. The Dem candidate won the general.
Rick Scott is despicable, not just a huge conflict of interest, but making unsubstantiated claims he KNOWS are lies about fraudulent ballots and the rest. He's been on Fox News every single day in flaming things.
But in the larger context, in a non-flashy way, there has been a sea change that won't all show up at once.
MUST HAVE NEW ELECTION... said no sane person .
They also predicted an average 0.5 seat gain for Republicans in the Senate, and right now they're up 1.
Pretty close predictions.
Fox News, Matt Drudge, and Wikileaks haven't tweeted anything for days. Fox News claims they're protesting Twitter, but the hot new conspiracy theory is that they're all mixed up in the Russia investigation somehow and have gone silent because it's all about to come out in the open.
Quote: TigerWuFivethirtyeight predicted an average 39 seat gain for the Democrats in the House, and they won 38.
They also predicted an average 0.5 seat gain for Republicans in the Senate, and right now they're up 1.
Pretty close predictions.
Fox News, Matt Drudge, and Wikileaks haven't tweeted anything for days. Fox News claims they're protesting Twitter, but the hot new conspiracy theory is that they're all mixed up in the Russia investigation somehow and have gone silent because it's all about to come out in the open.
Read those rumors today. It included National Enquirer and a couple others as well.
Quote: billryanUS Military member deployed to the border arrested for rape. Not many details available yet.
Hopefully RBG croaks soon so the GOP can get him on the Supreme Court ASAP.
https://www.gettrumpybear.com/
Check out the commercial for it.
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In NY, Republicans lost control of the State Senate for the first time in living memory.
It's not even close now. The NYS Assembly is around 100-50 Dems. The NYS Senate is now around 35-25 Dems. And Cuomo is the head honcho. I think NY will try for a universal statewide single payer health system. Thank God I'll be retired before it passes.
Quote: SOOPOOIt's not even close now. The NYS Assembly is around 100-50 Dems. The NYS Senate is now around 35-25 Dems. And Cuomo is the head honcho. I think NY will try for a universal statewide single payer health system. Thank God I'll be retired before it passes.
Thank you, President Trump. The gift that keeps giving.
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Rick Scott is despicable, not just a huge conflict of interest, but making unsubstantiated claims he KNOWS are lies about fraudulent ballots and the rest. He's been on Fox News every single day in flaming things.
One of the reasons I was hoping Scott would lose, is because I think he may be positioning himself for a presidential run eventually.
Quote: billryanThank you, President Trump. The gift that keeps giving.
The GOP got greedy and started going too far right under Bush Jr. They picked up speed under Obama, and with Trump they just threw open the throttle and broke off the brake pedal. Now the pendulum is going to start swinging hard and fast in the other direction and we're going see a lot of very far left and socialist politicians and policies in next 5-10 years, and it's all the GOP's fault. Thanks a lot.
Quote: ams288Hopefully RBG croaks soon so the GOP can get him on the Supreme Court ASAP.
I know it's sarcasm, but please don't even suggest this. What a thought.
Quote: billryanThe Republican Party, as it existed is dead. It's leader is against almost everything the old party stood for. In the end, maybe something useful comes out of the rubble, but I'm not hopeful. The Rockefeller Republicans of the 70s would be moderate Democrats today.
Almost any Republican politician in U.S. history up to and including Bush Sr. would probably be considered a moderate Democrat by today's GOP standards. Even their heroes, Lincoln and Reagan.
Quote: TigerWuNow the pendulum is going to start swinging hard and fast in the other direction and we're going see a lot of very far left and socialist politicians and policies in next 5-10 years, ....Thanks a lot.
The people have spoken.
It will limit opportunity and economic growth for the middle and lower income brackets. Their kids are toast.
But, it will be a windfall for the wealthy.
You may never see an economy, and opportunity like this again in your lifetime. Fill your pockets while you can.
Those billionaires didn’t spend hundreds of millions on the midterms out of concern for the masses. It was an investment. Their businesses are global. They expect to get that money back, many times over.
Stop being selfish, and think of the tens of millions of illegals who will now be able to come here without fear of being sent home by the evil republicans.
Quote: billryanThe Republican Party, as it existed is dead. It's leader is against almost everything the old party stood for. In the end, maybe something useful comes out of the rubble, but I'm not hopeful. The Rockefeller Republicans of the 70s would be moderate Democrats today.
Exactly. That's me and my family. A couple brothers have morphed with the party. The rest of us have left.
Quote: billryanAnyone seen the ads for trumpy bear? It's a stuffed bear with an amazing resemblance to a certain somebody, that has a secret compartment in it. Inside is a thermal American flag that you can use as a blanket or a throw.
https://www.gettrumpybear.com/
Check out the commercial for it.
Would you like one for Christmas?
Are you trying to unload your stash again?Quote: MaxPenWould you like one for Christmas?
Quote: MaxPenWould you like one for Christmas?
Absolutely. Several in fact.
Quote: RSNothing to see here in Florida! Don't worry, Snipes will take care of it. Forget Florida, there's no way there could be anything fishy going on there, no no no. It's all about Russia, yeah, that's it! Russia is messing with our elections, Brenda would neverrrr do anything like that. After all she has a completely spotless history.
She seems more incompetant than fishy, but in any case, it isn't just her.
Email voting, anyone?
They also have a couple of other legitimate issues regarding the recounts -
There is a recount deadline
The machines doing the recounts aren't fast enough, or numerous enough
They can only recount one contest at a time
They have multiple contests to recount
Quote: Dalex64Email voting, anyone?
If it was a Democratic area that did that - we would literally hear nothing else for weeks and weeks. Fox News would go into overdrive covering it. The lame duck Congress would rush to pass laws.
But it happened in the panhandle? *crickets* Gotta find something else to distract from it!
Quote: ams288Here’s one bright side for the Dems: win or lose tomorrow, starting Wednesday morning we won’t be hearing about that stupid ass “caravan” anymore.
Imagine being so stupid that you actually believed the caravan was a real threat and not just a political ploy by a racist d-bag...
A Week After the Midterms, Trump Seems to Forget the Caravan
Quote:There was little dispute, even before Election Day, that Mr. Trump was exploiting the caravan for political purposes. But analysts, historians and veterans of previous administrations said there were few comparable instances of a commander in chief warning about what he called a looming threat, only to drop it as soon as people voted.
Quote: MaxPenWould you like one for Christmas?
I'm going to spend my hard-earned money on several of them, and then burn them in protest. That'll show that company they're not getting any of my business!
Quote: TigerWuI'm going to spend my hard-earned money on several of them, and then burn them in protest. That'll show that company they're not getting any of my business!
If you wait, I might have a few discount ones right after Christmas.
Quote: billryanIf you wait, I might have a few discount ones right after Christmas.
Which reminds me, when does the "War on Christmas" spin up again?
Or does the Conservative media already have enough to be faux outraged about this year?
The GOP had twenty-nine White Males and a single White Female.,while the much larger Democrats have almost half of its new class members being women or minorities.
Which party would you guess represents the country as a whole, and which reflects one segment of it?
Sounds good to me!
ICE was formed in 2003. Is the border safer than it was in 2002? Has 15 years of ICE been such a rousing success that it can't be improved upon? It's not about eliminating ICE, it's about making it better and more effective.
Quote: TankoYou may never see an economy, and opportunity like this again in your lifetime. Fill your pockets while you can.
Nine out of the last ten recessions were under republican administrations. By almost every statistical measurement like GDP, business investment, recessions, job creation, our economy performs better under democrats. I'd say the chances of seeing a robust economy again is pretty good. We just have to elect democrats. The data is clear on this and in some cases, it's not even close.
“I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.” - Donald Trump, 2004
http://presidentialdata.org/
https://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/Presidents_Blinder_Watson_Nov2013.pdf
There is a legitimate debate to be had as to why this is. But there is no debate that this is, indeed, A FACT. Chalk it up to coincidence if you like, chalk it up to luck (lol) if you like, but trying to scare us into thinking that we will never see an economy like this because Donald Trump and trickle down bull s**t has been taken a step further, is ridiculous.
Quote: billryanAs far as getting rid of ICE goes, consider this.
ICE was formed in 2003. Is the border safer than it was in 2002? Has 15 years of ICE been such a rousing success that it can't be improved upon? It's not about eliminating ICE, it's about making it better and more effective.
Technically, border apprehensions have been dropping significantly since 2000, but whether or not it's due to ICE, I don't know. Either ICE and the Border Patrol are getting better at their jobs, or fewer people are trying to cross the border. Source
As far as that Fox News graphic goes, yes, it's comically bad and completely falls apart when the simplest logic is applied.
"Free college for all" -- Ah, yes, the good old Republican mantra of "education is evil!" And no, it's not free, since taxes would be paying for it, as they pay for a million other things, including the first 12-13 years of a person's education. What's another 2-4 years tacked on to that?
"Free healthcare for all" -- Again, not free, since everyone would be chipping in with their taxes instead of paying insurance companies exorbitant amounts of money every month.
"Abolish ICE" -- Fine with me. We already have multiple other government agencies to handle border crossings and illegal immigrants.
"Green New Deal" -- I had to look this up since I hadn't heard of it. I don't know much about it but it sounds "pro-environment," so of course the hard-line Republicans are going to be against it.
These departments were created in the fear filled atmosphere after the September 11th attacks, along with Freedom Fries. Strange how Republicans want to cut budgets and shut down so many Federal Services but bring up waste and abuse at ICE and one is accused of being soft on cop killers and a closet MS13 supporter.
Quote: billryanAbsolutely. Several in fact.
I'm surprised. I kind of figured you would be asking Santa for an anatomically correct Michaelle Obama doll stuffed with a shredded Constitution.
Quote: MaxPenI'm surprised. I kind of figured you would be asking Santa for an anatomically correct Michaelle Obama doll stuffed with a shredded Constitution.
The GOP already has dibs on the Constitution this year for a Christmas gift. They're using it for target practice. It's going to be cut out in the shape of a foreigner and dyed brown.
Both party's have killed their fair share of brown people.Quote: TigerWuThe GOP already has dibs on the Constitution this year for a Christmas gift. They're using it for target practice. It's going to be cut out in the shape of a foreigner and dyed brown.
" It's not who votes that matters, it's who counts the votes that matters" : ) Should get that printed on a shirt and wear it in to work, see if you get any reactions. lolQuote: beachbumbabsHey, here's some fun. I'm starting work with the Florida recount tomorrow evening. Should be dull+interesting. Training this evening.
Snowflake has a meltdown over protesters at a Confederate monument.
How do people get that angry and stupid? Guy's got some problems, not the least of which is a total ignorance of American history.
I wasn't able to downvote any of the stupid comments, seems as though only the upvotes are counted?Quote: TigerWuWowza... check out this freaking lunatic (NSFW language):
Snowflake has a meltdown over protesters at a Confederate monument.
How do people get that angry and stupid? Guy's got some problems, not the least of which is a total ignorance of American history.
Quote: TigerWuWowza... check out this freaking lunatic (NSFW language):
Snowflake has a meltdown over protesters at a Confederate monument.
How do people get that angry and stupid? Guy's got some problems, not the least of which is a total ignorance of American history.
“You are destroying America, do you even have a permit for your free speech?”
Lol
Typical republican loving big government when it suits their rhetoric.
Quote: gamerfreak“You are destroying America, do you even have a permit for your free speech?”
Lol
Typical republican loving big government when it suits their rhetoric.
And he's defending the Confederacy, which was a bunch of Southern Democrats that LITERALLY destroyed America... LOL.... HE should be the one out there protesting, because by his logic, the Confederate States is everything he hates.
I'm amazed people like that know how to put their pants on in the morning.
EDIT: OOOOOOhhhh, dang! Haha....
Michael Avanatti arrested for domestic violence.
Quote: SteverinosWe just have to elect democrats.
The Blinder report is a political hatchet job. The authors could have said, the economy does better when Republicans control the House.
The House affects the economy. Only the House can create fiscal policy and control spending and finance. Not the President. Not the Senate. All legislation concerning fiscal policy, such as budget, appropriations and taxes must originate in the House.
The Republicans controlled the House for the first two years of the Trump presidency.
The Republicans controlled the House for the last six years of Obama’s presidency.
The Republicans controlled the House for the last six years of the Clinton presidency.
The Dems controlled the House for the last two years of the G.W. Bush presidency. That worked out really well.
The Dems controlled the House for all of the Bush Sr., and Reagan Administrations.
The Dems controlled the House for all of the Carter administration. Another great job.
The Dems controlled the House for all of the Nixon and Ford administrations.
They're in control again. Free stuff for everyone. Hopefully, they can improve on Trump's numbers.
