Trump's Second and Third year in office
November 8th, 2018 at 8:05:24 AM
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Quote: RSShe can still resign from being on SCOTUS, right? Without dying, that is.
Why would she?
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
November 8th, 2018 at 8:29:26 AM
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Quote: RSShe can still resign from being on SCOTUS, right? Without dying, that is.
Of course
but
She knows what's at stake
Freedom
Conservative judges are against freedom
Conservative judges wants to have the gov control a women's body
Religious people against abortion should ban abortion among religious people
Don't push that make believe stuff on me
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Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
November 8th, 2018 at 9:23:23 AM
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Quote: DRichRuth Bader Ginsburg is in the hospital and the Democrats have begun sweating. Hopefully the doctors can patch her up or at least keep her on life support for a couple of years.
It's only a couple of fractured ribs. Jeez. She's tougher than that.
But if she died before Trump/Pence leaves office, it would be a major disaster.
November 8th, 2018 at 9:50:57 AM
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Quote: tringlomaneIt's only a couple of fractured ribs. Jeez. She's tougher than that.
But if she died before Trump/Pence leaves office, it would be a major disaster.
They sent her home for the ribs and she was rushed back to the hospital this morning. At her age any symptoms could be fatal.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
November 8th, 2018 at 9:54:59 AM
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There really needs to be a cap on age for public employees. 80 would seem to be more than reasonable.
November 8th, 2018 at 10:12:08 AM
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They would prop her up like Weekend at Bernie’s before allowing Trump another pick. At least until he wins re-election in 2020.
November 8th, 2018 at 10:31:51 AM
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Quote: BozThey would prop her up like Weekend at Bernie’s before allowing Trump another pick. At least until he wins re-election in 2020.
I was actually gonna make a Weekend at Bernie’s joke and you beat me to it.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
November 8th, 2018 at 10:36:31 AM
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Broken ribs lead to pneumonia. Pneumonia and the elderly don't mix well. It's a shame to see a person trapped by circumstance in the late stages of their life.
November 8th, 2018 at 11:02:43 AM
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The situation may not be serious
She fell in her office
Afterwards, she thought everything was fine and continued her day.
Wow
It was after she went home, she was feeling pain and thought it was best to have a DR examine her
She fell in her office
Afterwards, she thought everything was fine and continued her day.
Wow
It was after she went home, she was feeling pain and thought it was best to have a DR examine her
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
November 8th, 2018 at 11:11:07 AM
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Quote: terapinedThe situation may not be serious
She fell in her office
Afterwards, she thought everything was fine and continued her day.
Wow
It was after she went home, she was feeling pain and thought it was best to have a DR examine her
Keep Hope alive. My dog was falling down a lot in the last month of her life when I would take her outside to do her business. It is sick that this woman is being compelled to sustain her position at this stage of her life. None of it means anything in the end.
November 8th, 2018 at 11:53:03 AM
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They are probably allready lining up fake sexual assault victims just in case.Quote: BozThey would prop her up like Weekend at Bernie’s before allowing Trump another pick. At least until he wins re-election in 2020.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 8th, 2018 at 12:06:51 PM
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One tends to go see the doc when they can't breathe.
When one can't breathe, pneumonia is never far off.
People typically don't want pneumonia.
Frail people really don't want pneumonia.
85 year old, frail, people with probable dementia REALLY don't want pneumonia.
52 (or realistically 54) people with the ability to affect change in this country surely should LOVE some pneumonia right now though.
I say good luck to you ginzo, and I mean it the same way the sadistic bj dealer says it to me after I walk away from her table, up big, and having not left even a white chip for a tip.
When one can't breathe, pneumonia is never far off.
People typically don't want pneumonia.
Frail people really don't want pneumonia.
85 year old, frail, people with probable dementia REALLY don't want pneumonia.
52 (or realistically 54) people with the ability to affect change in this country surely should LOVE some pneumonia right now though.
I say good luck to you ginzo, and I mean it the same way the sadistic bj dealer says it to me after I walk away from her table, up big, and having not left even a white chip for a tip.
Statistics don't lie, they deceive.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:36:22 PM
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Quote: Maverick17One tends to go see the doc when they can't breathe.
True
but
One tends to go see a doc for a gazillion other health concerns
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
November 8th, 2018 at 1:39:40 PM
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Generally when people that old have fall incidents they are recommended to use assist devices. canes, walkers, the 'hover round'.
Even old people who know they are old don't like having to do things to acknowledge it. Just preventing another fall could give her several more years.
Even old people who know they are old don't like having to do things to acknowledge it. Just preventing another fall could give her several more years.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
November 8th, 2018 at 2:19:44 PM
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That press conference yesterday was funny as hell. Like or hate trump, acosta did show disrespect to the president imo.
Btw whoever that white house said was that tries to take the microphone is hot as hell.
Btw whoever that white house said was that tries to take the microphone is hot as hell.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
November 8th, 2018 at 2:32:43 PM
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Acosta was out of line but have you seen the doctored video the White House put out? Compare it to the videos even on Fox.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
November 8th, 2018 at 2:34:42 PM
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Quote: billryanAcosta was out of line but have you seen the doctored video the White House put out? Compare it to the videos even on Fox.
No I just saw the 30 seconds that the local news showed
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
November 8th, 2018 at 3:36:58 PM
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I wonder how much net effect Trump was on ALL voters for the midterm? He may have ginned up his base for certain areas but I bet overall he produced a worse result then if he had been tied up and gagged for the last 8 weeks.
If not, I have to believe everything that is good and true is no longer.
If not, I have to believe everything that is good and true is no longer.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
November 8th, 2018 at 9:36:43 PM
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Hmm, didn't really expect this
Dem Sinema pulls ahead of McSally in Arizona Senate race
Dem Sinema pulls ahead of McSally in Arizona Senate race
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
November 9th, 2018 at 4:11:37 AM
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Quote: rxwineHmm, didn't really expect this
Dem Sinema pulls ahead of McSally in Arizona Senate race
Not to mention the craziness going on down in Florida...
The GOP seems really scared about the impending recount.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
November 9th, 2018 at 5:03:40 AM
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I think they are not done with the first count yet, and republicans are organizing an effort to go to where the votes are still being counted to "disrupt everything" and "challenge everything" - in other words, prevent the counting of the votes that might go against them under a different standard than the vote counting in the rest of the state.
November 9th, 2018 at 6:19:34 AM
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Quote: rxwineI wonder how much net effect Trump was on ALL voters for the midterm? He may have ginned up his base for certain areas but I bet overall he produced a worse result then if he had been tied up and gagged for the last 8 weeks.
If not, I have to believe everything that is good and true is no longer.
Clearest evidence I've seen is that 317 out of 438 house districts moved left of where they were in 2016, and that stat is about 48 hours old, with more returns being counted, so it may be even worse.
Next clearest seems to be a net 313 state legislature positions flipped left, from a Republican rep to a Democrat.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
November 9th, 2018 at 7:34:07 AM
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Since I'm not doing "political" anymore, I will point out obvious things but not get into the various sides of the issue:
Broward County issues...
"in 2016, Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz faced a primary challenge by a Bernie Sanders-backed candidate named Tim Canova in Florida’s 23rd District. Canova sued Broward election officials and asked to inspect the physical ballots in the race. As Politico reported, Snipes’s office destroyed the physical originals while saving digital copies as the lawsuit was pending — a violation of a federal statute requiring congressional ballots be saved for 22 months after an election."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/09/after-trump-scott-cry-fraud-critics-pounce-broward-countys-troubled-election-history/?utm_term=.a82c87cbc655
Obviously, the Supervisor of Elections in Broward County is incompetent. Her incompetence seems to impact both parties.
My only hope is that every LEGAL vote be counted and that the right person be declared the winner. Each candidate should be afforded the opportunity for a transparent process based on the laws of the state.
Broward County issues...
"in 2016, Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz faced a primary challenge by a Bernie Sanders-backed candidate named Tim Canova in Florida’s 23rd District. Canova sued Broward election officials and asked to inspect the physical ballots in the race. As Politico reported, Snipes’s office destroyed the physical originals while saving digital copies as the lawsuit was pending — a violation of a federal statute requiring congressional ballots be saved for 22 months after an election."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/09/after-trump-scott-cry-fraud-critics-pounce-broward-countys-troubled-election-history/?utm_term=.a82c87cbc655
Obviously, the Supervisor of Elections in Broward County is incompetent. Her incompetence seems to impact both parties.
My only hope is that every LEGAL vote be counted and that the right person be declared the winner. Each candidate should be afforded the opportunity for a transparent process based on the laws of the state.
November 9th, 2018 at 10:07:42 AM
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My sister worked as a poll watcher( for the GOP) in NY. In 2011 she moved to West Palm Beach and in 2012 was hired for the same job. She quit during training claiming all they were being taught was how to make excuses for simple mistakes, not how to avoid them.
Problems in Broward and West Palm have been known since 2000 but nothing's been done. The good thing is I'm pretty sure Federal Election monitors have been on the ground since before voting began.
Every legally cast ballot must be counted and anyone interfering in the count or who either brought in bad ballots or neglected legit ones should be punished.
Problems in Broward and West Palm have been known since 2000 but nothing's been done. The good thing is I'm pretty sure Federal Election monitors have been on the ground since before voting began.
Every legally cast ballot must be counted and anyone interfering in the count or who either brought in bad ballots or neglected legit ones should be punished.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
November 9th, 2018 at 10:10:55 AM
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Quote: Dalex64I think they are not done with the first count yet, and republicans are organizing an effort to go to where the votes are still being counted to "disrupt everything" and "challenge everything" - in other words, prevent the counting of the votes that might go against them under a different standard than the vote counting in the rest of the state.
All the GOP is doing is trying to prevent the Democrats from stealing an election like they tried to do in 2000 and did in 2008 in MN.
Found a box of ballots somewhere? Give me a break!
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
November 9th, 2018 at 11:55:48 AM
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Absolute bedlam breaking out in Arizona.
It seems the head of each County's election board gets to make the decision when to discard a problematic ballot. Most Republican counties destroy a ballot if it isn't verified by Election Day. That is an option but not the only option. The law also allows the County board to verify the ballot after Election Day. That is what the County's that lean Democratic are doing.
The Republicans case seems to be that since they chose to follow Option 1, then everyone statewide should follow Option 1. Democrats are saying everyone is permitted to use either option. You can use Option 2, but wait- you already destroyed your ballots. Too bad. So sad.
What a travesty. How does one hold a statewide election but allow different standards to count votes?
As the Republicans have already destroyed thousands of ballots, chances are the remaining ballots are those that Democrats choose to use Option 2 on.
What is comes down to is Republican counties destroyed ballots where the persons signature couldn't be verified. That is legal, and permitted under the law. Democrats took ballots with unverified signatures and put them aside to be verified later. That's the process they are now doing. Evidently this is also legal under the election laws. Net effect is the same ballot mistake was destroyed in some counties but counted in others. Republicans are arguing that since some unverified ballots were destroyed, all of them should be. That's not what the law says, but using different methods in different counties is insane.
What a shitstorm. 2020 should be so much fun.
It seems the head of each County's election board gets to make the decision when to discard a problematic ballot. Most Republican counties destroy a ballot if it isn't verified by Election Day. That is an option but not the only option. The law also allows the County board to verify the ballot after Election Day. That is what the County's that lean Democratic are doing.
The Republicans case seems to be that since they chose to follow Option 1, then everyone statewide should follow Option 1. Democrats are saying everyone is permitted to use either option. You can use Option 2, but wait- you already destroyed your ballots. Too bad. So sad.
What a travesty. How does one hold a statewide election but allow different standards to count votes?
As the Republicans have already destroyed thousands of ballots, chances are the remaining ballots are those that Democrats choose to use Option 2 on.
What is comes down to is Republican counties destroyed ballots where the persons signature couldn't be verified. That is legal, and permitted under the law. Democrats took ballots with unverified signatures and put them aside to be verified later. That's the process they are now doing. Evidently this is also legal under the election laws. Net effect is the same ballot mistake was destroyed in some counties but counted in others. Republicans are arguing that since some unverified ballots were destroyed, all of them should be. That's not what the law says, but using different methods in different counties is insane.
What a shitstorm. 2020 should be so much fun.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
November 9th, 2018 at 12:24:37 PM
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I've been here about ten years [in Az.] from what I have witnessed they are incapable of managing any election. I almost posted last week that it would be SNAFU'd.Quote: billryanAbsolute bedlam breaking out in Arizona......
Handling the voting or counting of ballots would be better managed, if outsourced to another country or the local high school. They screw up, every... single... time.
November 10th, 2018 at 3:28:19 PM
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Breaking: Donald admits he and the GOP are trying to steal the Florida elections.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
November 10th, 2018 at 3:41:45 PM
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Quote: ams288Breaking: Donald admits he and the GOP are trying to steal the Florida elections.
I 'think' you may have misinterpreted his tweet.....
Rumor has it the Dems have hired Al Gore to help with the recounts.... And a guy named Chad, too......
November 10th, 2018 at 3:48:12 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: ams288Breaking: Donald admits he and the GOP are trying to steal the Florida elections.
I 'think' you may have misinterpreted his tweet.....
I think you may have misinterpreted my joke.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
November 10th, 2018 at 4:48:40 PM
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So...
Does Trump know who Matt Whitaker is?
Anyone fathom to guess?
Does Trump know who Matt Whitaker is?
Anyone fathom to guess?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
November 10th, 2018 at 4:53:23 PM
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https://youtu.be/nITGkfOiWCs
Trump says he does not know who matt Whitaker is
But said he knew the guy very well a few days earlier
The comedy has not ended
Trump says he does not know who matt Whitaker is
But said he knew the guy very well a few days earlier
The comedy has not ended
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
November 10th, 2018 at 6:06:41 PM
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FAKE NEWS!!Quote: darkozhttps://youtu.be/nITGkfOiWCs
But said he knew the guy very well a few days earlier
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 10th, 2018 at 6:13:34 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfFAKE NEWS!!
Fake President.
Real news.
They have the tapes.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
November 10th, 2018 at 10:28:54 PM
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FAKE TAPES!!Quote: beachbumbabsFake President.
Real news.
They have the tapes.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 11th, 2018 at 1:37:34 AM
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#OrangeManBad
November 11th, 2018 at 5:45:22 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanAll the GOP is doing is trying to prevent the Democrats from stealing an election like they tried to do in 2000 ....
Had the dems succeeded, 700,000 mostly innocent Iraqi’s and Afghans, would be alive today.
Most of the 6,900 US servicemen and women killed in those wars, would be alive today.
Iran would not be the dominant force in the region.
ISIS would not have become powerful.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine, CIA wars would never have happened.
The $6 trillion we’ve wasted on those wars, so far, could have built our infrastructure three times over.
The 2008 recession that Bush could have averted, might not have happened.
9/11 might have been averted.
The federal government would not be $21 trillion in debt.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:33:20 AM
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You left out the part where chocolate ice cream became calorie free and disco was wiped from our collective memories.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
November 11th, 2018 at 6:56:27 AM
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Quote: TankoHad the dems succeeded, 700,000 mostly innocent Iraqi’s and Afghans, would be alive today.
Most of the 6,900 US servicemen and women killed in those wars, would be alive today.
Iran would not be the dominant force in the region.
ISIS would not have become powerful.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine, CIA wars would never have happened.
The $6 trillion we’ve wasted on those wars, so far, could have built our infrastructure three times over.
The 2008 recession that Bush could have averted, might not have happened.
9/11 might have been averted.
The federal government would not be $21 trillion in debt.
Oh, please! Lets have another alternate history version:
Saddam would have gone on killing Iraqis and Afghanistani muslims killing each other. Saddam almost surely would have started another war and Algore almost surely would have ignored it.
We would be have paid higher taxes and by now be paying $6/gal for gasoline. The fracking boom would never have happened and because of that we would be paying 4 times current prices for natural gas.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine follies would still have happened. The Russians in fact probably would have been more aggressive in Ukraine years sooner than they were as Algore would be viewed as weak internationally.
The 2008 recession was bound to happen as was 9/11. The 2008 recessionces and was the result not of Bush policies but bad underwriting practices and bad risk management. Along with banks just plain ignoring things that should have been red flags in the name of getting loans booked. 9/11 was the result of an intolerant and violent religion indoctrinating violence against non-believers.
As to the $21 Trillion, isn't about half of that due to Obama?
Gore would have lost in 2004 as the economy would have been sickly and he would have made it worse with higher taxes and regulations. But the damage would have been done.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
November 11th, 2018 at 7:07:39 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: TankoHad the dems succeeded, 700,000 mostly innocent Iraqi’s and Afghans, would be alive today.
Most of the 6,900 US servicemen and women killed in those wars, would be alive today.
Iran would not be the dominant force in the region.
ISIS would not have become powerful.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine, CIA wars would never have happened.
The $6 trillion we’ve wasted on those wars, so far, could have built our infrastructure three times over.
The 2008 recession that Bush could have averted, might not have happened.
9/11 might have been averted.
The federal government would not be $21 trillion in debt.
Oh, please! Lets have another alternate history version:
Saddam would have gone on killing Iraqis and Afghanistani muslims killing each other. Saddam almost surely would have started another war and Algore almost surely would have ignored it.
We would be have paid higher taxes and by now be paying $6/gal for gasoline. The fracking boom would never have happened and because of that we would be paying 4 times current prices for natural gas.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine follies would still have happened. The Russians in fact probably would have been more aggressive in Ukraine years sooner than they were as Algore would be viewed as weak internationally.
The 2008 recession was bound to happen as was 9/11. The 2008 recessionces and was the result not of Bush policies but bad underwriting practices and bad risk management. Along with banks just plain ignoring things that should have been red flags in the name of getting loans booked. 9/11 was the result of an intolerant and violent religion indoctrinating violence against non-believers.
As to the $21 Trillion, isn't about half of that due to Obama?
Gore would have lost in 2004 as the economy would have been sickly and he would have made it worse with higher taxes and regulations. But the damage would have been done.
Why do you disparage his alternative facts and then provide an even more outlandish set of alternative facts of your own?
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
November 11th, 2018 at 7:30:37 AM
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Alternative history
Gore get the election in 2000
Leads the country successfully but the 2008 recession still hits
Mitt Romney become 2 term president to fix economy
He gives billions to keep banks open as well as other rich Republican corporations
2016 - Trump is defeated since without Obama as president for 8 years racist America remains asleep
Gore get the election in 2000
Leads the country successfully but the 2008 recession still hits
Mitt Romney become 2 term president to fix economy
He gives billions to keep banks open as well as other rich Republican corporations
2016 - Trump is defeated since without Obama as president for 8 years racist America remains asleep
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
November 11th, 2018 at 7:37:34 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: TankoHad the dems succeeded, 700,000 mostly innocent Iraqi’s and Afghans, would be alive today.
Most of the 6,900 US servicemen and women killed in those wars, would be alive today.
Iran would not be the dominant force in the region.
ISIS would not have become powerful.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine, CIA wars would never have happened.
The $6 trillion we’ve wasted on those wars, so far, could have built our infrastructure three times over.
The 2008 recession that Bush could have averted, might not have happened.
9/11 might have been averted.
The federal government would not be $21 trillion in debt.
Oh, please! Lets have another alternate history version:
Saddam would have gone on killing Iraqis and Afghanistani muslims killing each other. Saddam almost surely would have started another war and Algore almost surely would have ignored it.
We would be have paid higher taxes and by now be paying $6/gal for gasoline. The fracking boom would never have happened and because of that we would be paying 4 times current prices for natural gas.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine follies would still have happened. The Russians in fact probably would have been more aggressive in Ukraine years sooner than they were as Algore would be viewed as weak internationally.
The 2008 recession was bound to happen as was 9/11. The 2008 recessionces and was the result not of Bush policies but bad underwriting practices and bad risk management. Along with banks just plain ignoring things that should have been red flags in the name of getting loans booked. 9/11 was the result of an intolerant and violent religion indoctrinating violence against non-believers.
As to the $21 Trillion, isn't about half of that due to Obama?
Gore would have lost in 2004 as the economy would have been sickly and he would have made it worse with higher taxes and regulations. But the damage would have been done.
Why do you disparage his alternative facts and then provide an even more outlandish set of alternative facts of your own?
Why not? If liberals can post their alternative history thoughts why can't a conservative?
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
November 11th, 2018 at 9:07:51 AM
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It is a clear "we will never know" with the exception of the Supreme Court. No way to really tell how economy does under HRC. No way to tell if country seems more united under HRC. No way to tell how foreign powers react to us under HRC. No way to tell how many more or fewer mass casualty events happen under HRC. No way to tell about exact deficit levels. All guesswork. But only thing FOR SURE is no Gorsuch or Kavanaugh.
November 11th, 2018 at 9:18:17 AM
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Interesting (to me at least) tidbit from election results. Most states are like the USA, in that they are bicameral with an executive. The USA is obviously now going to be split, Repub Senate, Dem House. How many states now will be split? My State, NY, is now firmly, solidly, overwhelmingly Dem. Until this election Senate was by one member Repub. Soooo.... let's see who can name the ONLY remaining state that has a split Senate/House? It's only 1.......
Minnesota.......
My state assemblyman lost in his re-election bid.... For the last 10 years or so I've met with him periodically on my anesthesia related issues, at first it was to educate him on the topic, then later it was basically to remind him that we support him. I now have a new person to start over with. What I like is that our issues are technically non partisan, as we have both Republican supporters and foes, and Democrat supporters and foes.
Back to work!
Minnesota.......
My state assemblyman lost in his re-election bid.... For the last 10 years or so I've met with him periodically on my anesthesia related issues, at first it was to educate him on the topic, then later it was basically to remind him that we support him. I now have a new person to start over with. What I like is that our issues are technically non partisan, as we have both Republican supporters and foes, and Democrat supporters and foes.
Back to work!
November 11th, 2018 at 9:31:42 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: beachbumbabsQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: TankoHad the dems succeeded, 700,000 mostly innocent Iraqi’s and Afghans, would be alive today.
Most of the 6,900 US servicemen and women killed in those wars, would be alive today.
Iran would not be the dominant force in the region.
ISIS would not have become powerful.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine, CIA wars would never have happened.
The $6 trillion we’ve wasted on those wars, so far, could have built our infrastructure three times over.
The 2008 recession that Bush could have averted, might not have happened.
9/11 might have been averted.
The federal government would not be $21 trillion in debt.
Oh, please! Lets have another alternate history version:
Saddam would have gone on killing Iraqis and Afghanistani muslims killing each other. Saddam almost surely would have started another war and Algore almost surely would have ignored it.
We would be have paid higher taxes and by now be paying $6/gal for gasoline. The fracking boom would never have happened and because of that we would be paying 4 times current prices for natural gas.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine follies would still have happened. The Russians in fact probably would have been more aggressive in Ukraine years sooner than they were as Algore would be viewed as weak internationally.
The 2008 recession was bound to happen as was 9/11. The 2008 recessionces and was the result not of Bush policies but bad underwriting practices and bad risk management. Along with banks just plain ignoring things that should have been red flags in the name of getting loans booked. 9/11 was the result of an intolerant and violent religion indoctrinating violence against non-believers.
As to the $21 Trillion, isn't about half of that due to Obama?
Gore would have lost in 2004 as the economy would have been sickly and he would have made it worse with higher taxes and regulations. But the damage would have been done.
Why do you disparage his alternative facts and then provide an even more outlandish set of alternative facts of your own?
Why not? If liberals can post their alternative history thoughts why can't a conservative?
Did you just call tanko a liberal?
I'm speechless.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
November 11th, 2018 at 1:52:26 PM
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Quote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: beachbumbabsQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: TankoHad the dems succeeded, 700,000 mostly innocent Iraqi’s and Afghans, would be alive today.
Most of the 6,900 US servicemen and women killed in those wars, would be alive today.
Iran would not be the dominant force in the region.
ISIS would not have become powerful.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine, CIA wars would never have happened.
The $6 trillion we’ve wasted on those wars, so far, could have built our infrastructure three times over.
The 2008 recession that Bush could have averted, might not have happened.
9/11 might have been averted.
The federal government would not be $21 trillion in debt.
Oh, please! Lets have another alternate history version:
Saddam would have gone on killing Iraqis and Afghanistani muslims killing each other. Saddam almost surely would have started another war and Algore almost surely would have ignored it.
We would be have paid higher taxes and by now be paying $6/gal for gasoline. The fracking boom would never have happened and because of that we would be paying 4 times current prices for natural gas.
Obama’s Syrian, Libyan and Ukraine follies would still have happened. The Russians in fact probably would have been more aggressive in Ukraine years sooner than they were as Algore would be viewed as weak internationally.
The 2008 recession was bound to happen as was 9/11. The 2008 recessionces and was the result not of Bush policies but bad underwriting practices and bad risk management. Along with banks just plain ignoring things that should have been red flags in the name of getting loans booked. 9/11 was the result of an intolerant and violent religion indoctrinating violence against non-believers.
As to the $21 Trillion, isn't about half of that due to Obama?
Gore would have lost in 2004 as the economy would have been sickly and he would have made it worse with higher taxes and regulations. But the damage would have been done.
Why do you disparage his alternative facts and then provide an even more outlandish set of alternative facts of your own?
Why not? If liberals can post their alternative history thoughts why can't a conservative?
Did you just call tanko a liberal?
I'm speechless.
Yeah, that was part of why I commented. Where does what Tanko said go off the rails? I don't think it does - it just means he can see more than a narrow and reactionary view of things.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:09:32 PM
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Good news:
The AZ Senate race has finally been called.
The bisexual atheist Democrat lady won Jeff Flake’s old seat!
The AZ Senate race has finally been called.
The bisexual atheist Democrat lady won Jeff Flake’s old seat!
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
November 12th, 2018 at 5:42:30 PM
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Democratic Senators in Alabama and Arizona. A Democratic Congressman in Oklahoma.
Can the gop withstand another such near total victory?
Can the gop withstand another such near total victory?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:49:19 PM
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Veterans Day., and the 100 Anniversary of the end of the Great War.
Bad enough he couldn't honor the Dead in France but when was the last time a President didn't publicly honor our Vets on Veterans Day?
Bad enough he couldn't honor the Dead in France but when was the last time a President didn't publicly honor our Vets on Veterans Day?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:52:19 PM
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Is she Bi? I didn't know she was Bi, now she's hotter than ever. Links?Quote: ams288Good news:
The AZ Senate race has finally been called.
The bisexual atheist Democrat lady won Jeff Flake’s old seat!
