Quote: MrVAnyone remember two sappy, short lived "superhero" shows, "Captain Nice" and "Mr. Terrific?"
Only by name - and only because the star of Captain Nice, William Daniels, was later Dr. Craig on St. Elsewhere.
𝙜𝙤𝙩𝙩𝙖 𝙧𝙚𝙫𝙤𝙡𝙪𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣________𝙜𝙤𝙩𝙩𝙖 𝙧𝙚𝙫𝙤𝙡𝙪𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣
𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵 𝘱𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘪𝘥______________𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘺 𝘣𝘰𝘯𝘨___________!!!!!
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one of my fave back in the day tv shows - and what a great intro:
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Atlantic City in its' heyday before casinos was a very popular place - tacky and corny maybe but people didn't care - they came to have fun - before its' decline
as a little kid when my folks took me there I was so excited - it was like heaven to me
the first pic is from about 1959 - not sure about the 2nd pick
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I stopped in in the summer of 1976 and the boardwalk was almost deserted. There were predators all over and it just seemed dangerous.
I was with three other white kids from Long Island and I got the impression that any one of the many groups of black kids hanging around were just seconds away from violence. A few days later we visited the dread " combat zone " in Baltimore and experienced the same feeling. I didn't return to AC until the late 1990s.
Atlantic City had quite a bit of illegal gambling before casinos came
the rackets in A.C. were controlled by a mobster named Nucky Johnson who had ties to Lucky Luciano and other prominent thugs
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AC became a focal point of the civil rights movement when the Democratic convention was held there and the convention refused to recognize the all-white delegations of several southern states and proposed alternative delegations that were more inclusive. Many of the original southern delegates left the convention and refused to work with the national party in the election that fall.
AC had hoped the Democratic convention would give it a much-needed boost in tourism, but the opposite happened. National news showed the decline of the boardwalk, and there were thousands of complaints about inadequate hotel rooms and dining options.
In trying to get the democrats to support the proposed Medicare insurance for senior citizens, hundreds of buses full of seniors descended on the city, with most not booking rooms in advance and it became part of the story.
The convention ended up giving the city a blackeye and actually increased calls to remake it as a gambling town.
In what turned out to be pretty ironic, San Fransico was praised for its role in the Republican convention, with the press fawning over its cleanliness and its modernization. In the aftermath, SF and California were seen as representing the future while AC and the East Coast were seen as representing the past.
Those interested in AC and its checkered (OK, corrupt) history which led to casinos coming to town in the seventies really should read the seminal book on the subject, Ovid Demaris' "The Boardwalk Jungle."
https://www.amazon.com/Boardwalk-Jungle-Ovid-Demaris/dp/055305130X
It talks about the corruption, the white washing, the mob and of course Trump.
I love how NJ denied a casino license to Hugh Hefner on moral grounds yet they didn't care if the applicants were mobbed up: classic NJ.
I was just 14 years old and I wanted to make some $$$$$
somebody told me that I could maybe get hired as a pinsetter at the local bowling alley
I went and talked to the Manager - he said he might hire me but he gave me a warning - sometime the ball could take an odd bounce and it might hit me in the head
$.50 an hour and I might get hit in the head by a bowling ball________________________________(~:/
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I was just 14 years old and I wanted to make some $$$$$
somebody told me that I could maybe get hired as a pinsetter at the local bowling alley
I went and talked to the Manager - he said he might hire me but he gave me a warning - sometime the ball could take an odd bounce and it might hit me in the head
$.50 an hour and I might get hit in the head by a bowling ball________________________________(~:/
My father told me that people would throw balls at the pinsetters sometimes.
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Did each lane have a dedicated boy or were you responsible for multiple lanes? It seems like a pretty cool first job.
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I was just 14 years old and I wanted to make some $$$$$
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somebody told me that I could maybe get hired as a pinsetter at the local bowling alley
I went and talked to the Manager - he said he might hire me but he gave me a warning - sometime the ball could take an odd bounce and it might hit me in the head
$.50 an hour and I might get hit in the head by a bowling ball________________________________(~:/
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I was just watching an old movie about Scottish mining family. The kid working in the mine had the job of holding a spike while an adult miner would swing a sledge hammer at it. One miss and it would hit him in the shoulder or head.
Great job.
I believe there is actually a name for that job: shaker, though it may only apply to the holder of railroad spikes.Quote: rxwineI was just watching an old movie about Scottish mining family. The kid working in the mine had the job of holding a spike while an adult miner would swing a sledge hammer at it. One miss and it would hit him in the shoulder or head.
Great job.
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Quote: billryanWhat year was that? I started bowling in 1972ish and I've never seen an alley that wasn't automatic. I've only seen them in movies.
Did each lane have a dedicated boy or were you responsible for multiple lanes? It seems like a pretty cool first job.
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it was in the 60s
I don't know the details - after he told me I might get hit in the head by a bowling ball I lost interest and didn't pursue it
I got a job delivering papers - the Washington Daily News - it was the 3rd most popular paper in DC after the Washington Post and the Evening Star
nobody who had any common sense would buy or read that paper - it offered very little
I had about 10 deliveries every day and to make those 10 deliveries I had to walk about 2 miles
I made $3.00 per month not counting tips - after the month was over I had to collect. I usually got a tip of a dime or 15 cents. the biggest tip I ever got was fifty cents.
thinking about newspapers - I remember when the Washington Post and the Evening Star reported the results of pro wrestling matches held in DC on the Sports page
as if they were real sporting events
so you knew if Bobo Brazil beat "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers last night
Bobo Brazil was the only black wrestler on the circuit back then
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanWhat year was that? I started bowling in 1972ish and I've never seen an alley that wasn't automatic. I've only seen them in movies.
Did each lane have a dedicated boy or were you responsible for multiple lanes? It seems like a pretty cool first job.
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it was in the 60s
I don't know the details - after he told me I might get hit in the head by a bowling ball I lost interest and didn't pursue it
I got a job delivering papers - the Washington Daily News - it was the 3rd most popular paper in DC after the Washington Post and the Evening Star
nobody who had any common sense would buy or read that paper - it offered very little
I had about 10 deliveries every day and to make those 10 deliveries I had to walk about 2 miles
I made $3.00 per month not counting tips - after the month was over I had to collect. I usually got a tip of a dime or 15 cents. the biggest tip I ever got was fifty cents.
thinking about newspapers - I remember when the Washington Post and the Evening Star reported the results of pro wrestling matches held in DC on the Sports page
as if they were real sporting events
so you knew if Bobo Brazil beat "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers last night
Bobo Brazil was the only black wrestler on the circuit back then
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Strangely, the NY Post was the only NY paper to cover wrestling, but it was usually just a box score-type recap the day after the Garden. They did a blurb when Ivan Koloff beat Bruno to end his eight-year run as champion, and another article when Pedro Morales won the title from Koloff a few weeks later.,
Sherman pin setters invented in 1953. Went out of business in 1973. Brunswick refused to buy them out or manufacture for duckpins.
I remember one time Washing newspaper printed wro g wrestling result
In details. One wrestler got mad and did not follow the script HaHa
Rubber sideboards added in late 60s . Top average went from 120 -130 to 150-160
And yet to date not even one 300 game ever rolled in duckpins. I guess dice setting much be a lot easier.
BET ME!
It was the same price as a regular ten-frame game.
If Johnny U could not wean them off of duckpins, well enough said.
The pins you knock down stay there so you can use them to help knock down the remaining pins.
Duckpins are about half the height of ten-pins, but almost the same diameter at the widest part. They do look like little ducks, sort of... from a distance... using your imagination. It's played like regular ten-pin, except you get up to 3 shots, instead of two, per frame. Knocking down all the remaining pins on your third shot only scored you 10 points for the frame with -- no bonus for the first ball of the next frameQuote: billryanI thought Duckpins was the name of a bet you made, not an entirely different game. A bar in Flushing had an ancient disc bowling machine that allowed you to change the games. One was Duckpin where you bowled until you knocked down all ten pins. If it took you five balls, you scored 5. A strike was one and every frame was its own game. Good betting game for the bar when the loser buys a shot.
It was the same price as a regular ten-frame game.
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The ball is about the size of a track & field shot put, but the lanes (at least where I played in south Florida) were standard ten-pin lanes with the pins in the same positions. So, unlike ten-pin, the ball could roll between adjacent pins without hitting either one. In theory, with an intense hook, you could hit the pocket with a shot and knock over zero pins!
Not sure if it was due to demand from snowbirds, or just for the novelty, but the local bowling center where I grew up converted 4 of their lanes to duckpin in the late 80's/early 90's.
As I understand it, the danger is more from the pins than the ball.Quote: lilredroosterI was just 14 years old and I wanted to make some $$$$$
somebody told me that I could maybe get hired as a pinsetter at the local bowling alley
I went and talked to the Manager - he said he might hire me but he gave me a warning - sometime the ball could take an odd bounce and it might hit me in the head
$.50 an hour and I might get hit in the head by a bowling ball________________________________(~:/
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My Dad tells the story of when he was bowling one time, the pins were never reset after one particular frame. They waited for a while, and finally went back to see what was up. When they got there, they saw that the pinsetter had been knocked out cold by an errant pin!
That reminds me... We were watching Die Hard the other night. In the scene where Sgt. Powell exits the gas station convenience store where he buys the Twinkies, the camera pans up to Nokatomi Plaza. In doing so, we see the gas prices on the station's sign.Quote: avianrandyLol.i think a gallon of gas was close to the price of a quarter pounder with cheese back then
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Anyone want to guess how much it was for a gallon of gas?
The McDonald's is still there but you'd never recognize it. In the early 80s, they built a new building in the parking lot and the old building literally was taken down overnight. As it was the first Mcdonald's in Queens and was a very early version of their restaurants, it supposedly was shipped to some museum.
The drive-thru hadn't been invented then.
At the height of the Vietnam Era Anti -War campaign, protestors would hassle the soldiers from the nearby Army base. Army regulations at the time said the soldiers couldn't change out of uniforms for their meals so almost every day there would be a confrontation between a GI or two and some anti-war people. The owner decided to let uniformed soldiers pull up to a window in his office and order. It wasn't a well-thought-out plan, but the owner ran with the idea and sent it up the line to corporate and they sprang for a true drive-thru lane as a pilot project.
For example, the Big Mac: in 1972, $.65 was worth $4.41 in today's dollars. The price of a Big Mac today (according to Google) is $4.35, a tad bit cheaper.
The cheeseburger: $.33 in 1972 is $2.24 in today's dollars. A cheeseburger today is $1.00 (so that's actually a lot cheaper).
Large fries: $.46 cents in '72 is $3.12 today. Large fry cost today is $1.89.
There's probably something that's cheaper but I don't want to go through the whole menu again.
Quote: TigerWuI remember doing the math on that McDonald's menu a little while ago and when you factor in inflation the prices are too far off from what they are today; in fact it was even more expensive back then for a lot of the things.
For example, the Big Mac: in 1972, $.65 was worth $4.41 in today's dollars. The price of a Big Mac today (according to Google) is $4.35, a tad bit cheaper.
The cheeseburger: $.33 in 1972 is $2.24 in today's dollars. A cheeseburger today is $1.00 (so that's actually a lot cheaper).
Large fries: $.46 cents in '72 is $3.12 today. Large fry cost today is $1.89.
There's probably something that's cheaper but I don't want to go through the whole menu again.
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I'm pretty sure the size of the patties in the burger and the Big Mac have shrunk, and the toppings on the Big Mac used to overflow to the point of making a mess when you tried to eat them. Burger King used to say it took two hands to handle a Whopper. Not any more
Fast food has definitely gotten cheaper than it was in the 1970s when adjusted for inflation, and that doesn't count coupons which barely existed back then. Automation has eliminated a lot of the workers, and the minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation so the owner's labor cost are a smaller percentage of the expense pie.
Quote: TigerWuThere's probably something that's cheaper but I don't want to go through the whole menu again.
Back in the late sixties there was a hamburger joint that sold burgers for eighteen cents: the Steer Inn.
I recall buying and eating ten burgers for less than two bucks.
I stopped going there when I saw some freshly skinned dog pelts next to their dumpster.
*burp / arf*
Quote: MrVQuote: TigerWuThere's probably something that's cheaper but I don't want to go through the whole menu again.
Back in the late sixties there was a hamburger joint that sold burgers for eighteen cents: the Steer Inn.
I recall buying and eating ten burgers for less than two bucks.
I stopped going there when I saw some freshly skinned dog pelts next to their dumpster.
*burp / arf*
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Burger King had a Sunday Special $.29 for a hamburger. I'd get 10 after church for less 3 bucks. This was maybe 20-25 years ago. My kids still razz me.
My how time flies. Seems like a few years back.
Wessons was a New York chain that was McDonald's before Mcdonald's. Almost identical menus and buildings, but MickeyDs was a little cheaper. When the Big Mac was around 70 cents, Wessons SuperBurger was over a dollar.
urban legend in DC says that McDonalds ripped off the Big Mac from a local chain - Hot Shoppes - that no longer exists - their "Mighty Mo"
I believe this - this is the Mighty Mo - you can't see the sauce in the pic but if you read the words it says "our special Mighty Mo dressing" - it was the same as Micky Dees or almost the same - Hot Shoppes burgers were bigger and cost more - note the sesame seed bun
Hot Shoppes opened in DC and began serving the "Mighty Mo" in 1927 - it was extremely popular
I ate many Mighty Mos - they were great - I was a little kid and it was always a challenge to finish it - made me stuffed
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I worked with a guy who's wife worked as a waitress at Hot Shoppes for about 30 years
she was required to do 15 minutes of set up work every day before she was allowed to punch in
when she retired I told him they should sue Hot Shoppes for that but he wouldn't do it
stuff like that is the reason workers hated employers (some) in the U.S.
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Quote: MrVAh, Atlantic City: where dreams go to die.
Those interested in AC and its checkered (OK, corrupt) history which led to casinos coming to town in the seventies really should read the seminal book on the subject, Ovid Demaris' "The Boardwalk Jungle."
https://www.amazon.com/Boardwalk-Jungle-Ovid-Demaris/dp/055305130X
It talks about the corruption, the white washing, the mob and of course Trump.
I love how NJ denied a casino license to Hugh Hefner on moral grounds yet they didn't care if the applicants were mobbed up: classic NJ.
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the 1980 movie "Atlantic City" is about some of that stuff - not nearly as much detail as the book - it has gotten great reviews
it's the only movie I've ever seen that got 5 stars on the Rotten Tomatoes site
this pic shows how popular A.C. was in its' heyday long before casinos:
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Quote: avianrandyAnybody remember back in the 80s when a and w Introduced the 1/3 pound burger to compete with the quarter pounder? It flopped because people thought the quarter pounder had more meat.
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(sigh) A "5+ ounce burger!" likely would have had the same problem.
Some people would have known that 15 is bigger than 5, and others would have known that 25 is bigger than 5.
Or just gone completely overboard with advertising and really dumbed it down -- showing some A&W guy in a classroom teaching a bunch of adults, pointing at a chalkboard; "Okay, class, repeat after me... 1/3 is more than 1/4.... 1/3 is more than 1/4... 1/3 is more than 1/4... A&W's 1/3 pound burger is bigger than McDonald's 1/4 pound burger...." etc., etc., etc.
The advertising possibilities are endless. They should have really leaned into the fact that people didn't get it at first and used it to their advantage.
when I was about 11 - there was a little dive in Baltimore
the owner paid off the little kids in cash on the pinball machines - they could trade in their free games for cash
he was a great hero to all the little kids that hung out there
one time I came out of that joint - I had scored $1.75 - I thought I was big time - my chest was all puffed out and I had a lot of swag
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Quote: JimRockfordAnyone remember AAA TripTik? A custom made spiral bound flip book of maps for your road trip.
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I loved going to AAA to get them! I used to save them in the car until it was self evident it was a trip I wasn’t repeating.
Map story…. Ex and I are on the Island of Malta. Street signs not in English. I’m driving, she’s the co pilot with the map. We are trying to go from one main road to another when I don’t exit the circle at the proper place. We re-enter the circle with a second failure. I probably said something not so nice to ex, who throws map at me. I duck, and it flies out the window never to be seen again. We pull over, and laugh our balls off! When you f… up with modern GPS, there is nothing to throw!
Quote: JimRockfordAnyone remember AAA TripTik? A custom made spiral bound flip book of maps for your road trip.
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Remember them??? Dad and I just used them on a recent trip!
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