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March 2nd, 2014 at 11:57:54 AM permalink
Not sure what all the fuss is about. How about you just THINK to yourself what an absolute moronic tool so-and-so is, and then answer them in a way that demonstrates how you feel, minus the name calling?
Easy peasy, and no risk of suspension.

Of course, if you really want to get edgy, just be sure you have facts to back it up.
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March 2nd, 2014 at 5:06:22 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

The apocryphal Sinatra quote applies: You don't pay a hooker to come, you pay her to go.



I woulda paid JJ. JJ if you are reading this, I have 14.76 roses with your name on them. No jimmies.
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March 2nd, 2014 at 5:41:14 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

OK. "You're great, but your thoughts, as you have expressed them here in writing, are completely asinine." Or better, "I think you are wonderful, but what you have written is as if it were written by a complete nincompoop, which is puzzling to me."



people think the word "asinine" means "like an asshole."

asinine really just means silly. it's a much less strong word than most people think.
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March 2nd, 2014 at 6:15:59 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

The apocryphal Sinatra quote applies: You don't pay a hooker to come, you pay her to go.



I pay them to make me come, and then they go. Sinatra and I have different ways with money and women. I usually pay in tournament chips as well. The $500 denoms and below work enough times to make it worthwhile.
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March 2nd, 2014 at 6:18:56 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

I pay them to make me come, and then they go. Sinatra and I have different ways with money and women. I usually pay in tournament chips as well. The $500 denoms and below work enough times to make it worthwhile.



this won't fool harrah's AC plumbing staff
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March 4th, 2014 at 10:50:34 AM permalink
Paisello, Personal Insult, Three Days:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/announcements/17057-is-it-time-to-change-the-statler-and-waldorf-policy/5/#post335543
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 4th, 2014 at 11:39:25 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

people think the word "asinine" means "like an asshole."

asinine really just means silly. it's a much less strong word than most people think.



didn't look this up, but I thought it meant "like an ass" meaning literally a donkey

well, looked it up

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=asinine&searchmode=nl
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March 4th, 2014 at 11:58:06 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

didn't look this up, but I thought it meant "like an ass" meaning literally a donkey

well, looked it up

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=asinine&searchmode=nl



someone got their asinine handed to them.
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March 4th, 2014 at 12:04:20 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

didn't look this up, but I thought it meant "like an ass" meaning literally a donkey

well, looked it up

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=asinine&searchmode=nl



yeah.. and donkeys don't act with malice, only with foolishness, stupidity or illogical silliness. That's exactly my point. People use "asinine" to mean "like an asshole," to imply that there was malice, rudeness, or spitefulness associated with the "asinine" act or person. It's just a fine point on language I have noticed.
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March 4th, 2014 at 12:22:45 PM permalink
The confusion is that in English "ass" means both donkey and butt. But the word's derivation is from the Latin asininus.
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March 14th, 2014 at 6:35:53 AM permalink
RicardoEsteban is a pain in the asininus, and has been nuked for Trolling & Personal Insult:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/math/17327-pay-table-analyzer-programming-question/#post339119
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 15th, 2014 at 1:11:59 AM permalink
sajjadahmadbwp is a spammer pushing a web casino, and has been nuked:

Unauthorized Ad
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March 15th, 2014 at 1:51:25 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

sajjadahmadbwp is a spammer pushing a web casino, and has been nuked:

Yeah I had my doubts about that. An unpronounceable name, an immediate join and post... and supposedly he pays bonuses on deposits... so if he is giving away that much money how could it possible be a fair casino. The only way to get that deposit bonus money back is for him to cheat the casino players.
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March 15th, 2014 at 3:43:18 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

sajjadahmadbwp is a spammer pushing a web casino, and has been nuked:

Unauthorized Ad



I flagged it but nothing happened. Would you explain the flagging process or is that a secret? It was very clear when it was first instituted but not so much now. With all the administrators and moderators we now have, secret and not so secret, has the flag option become obsolete?

The poster was nuked and the links removed but the post is still there as of right now. Don't posts like this usually get removed in their entirety?
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March 15th, 2014 at 4:40:18 AM permalink
I think "flag" means "flag for moderator's later attention" though there was a move afoot to make five such flags an automatic retractor of the thread provided there were no posts in the thread, only flags.
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March 15th, 2014 at 4:48:20 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Quote: beachbumbabs

sajjadahmadbwp is a spammer pushing a web casino, and has been nuked:

Unauthorized Ad



I flagged it but nothing happened. Would you explain the flagging process or is that a secret? It was very clear when it was first instituted but not so much now. With all the administrators and moderators we now have, secret and not so secret, has the flag option become obsolete?

The poster was nuked and the links removed but the post is still there as of right now. Don't posts like this usually get removed in their entirety?



I am not sure myself how the member flag works; I'm assuming it generates a notice one of the original moderators sees, and I don't. When I flag a post, it gets removed. I disabled the links but chose to leave the post as evidence why I nuked the member, so it could be linked to in the suspension list. The Wizard or Mission are welcome to remove it, but I was too quick on removing a post one of them wanted to see a month ago, so I've left it for now.

I'm pretty sure it's worth leaving the flagging option; there are many times members see an obvious problem before any of us.
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March 15th, 2014 at 5:21:23 AM permalink
This probably isn't much help now because this is from a few years ago.

The longer someone was a member, the more flagging privileges they had. It would take many flags from newer members where only a couple from older members would remove a post.

I have flagged posts and seen them disappear right before my eyes. All that meant was that my flag was the final straw. It didn't indicate how many others flagged it or what their seniority was.

It seemed to work. Although there was always potential for abuse, I never heard of any.
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March 15th, 2014 at 5:21:48 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

RicardoEsteban is a pain in the asininus, and has been nuked for Trolling & Personal Insult:



To the extremists, any question of the effectiveness of BJCC is unacceptable.

If you run sims and show that BJCC provides a mediocre advantage at best, they act like the Taliban of the gaming world.
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March 17th, 2014 at 7:35:39 PM permalink
Keyser is suspended for seven days for the personal insult implied in the title of this thread. This is Keyser's third offense, but the second was almost two years ago, which works off some bad history. So, I'm making it seven days.

Some may argue that it was in retaliation for this thread. However, I will let that one slide, as a fair reference is the infamous election bet between Keyser and Mission.

That is two suspension from me in a day. However, it is still early and I'm looking to score a hat trick.
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March 17th, 2014 at 8:36:21 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

people think the word "asinine" means "like an asshole."

asinine really just means silly. it's a much less strong word than most people think.



Language is a funny beast.

It's the same way so many people don't know the difference between "inasmuch as" and "insofar as" that people who use the former properly tend to sort of mean both. And how do you think the two got different meanings in the first place?

The battle is lost - "asinine" does mean "silly," but it's too late to stop it from being more pejorative than that. More so when you look at the etymology - "donkey-like." "Jackass," which clearly means the animal, means both foolish/vulgar and stubborn/pugnacious. Wouldn't you expect "asinine" to be similar?
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:09:40 PM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

Language is a funny beast.

It's the same way so many people don't know the difference between "inasmuch as" and "insofar as" that people who use the former properly tend to sort of mean both. And how do you think the two got different meanings in the first place?

The battle is lost - "asinine" does mean "silly," but it's too late to stop it from being more pejorative than that. More so when you look at the etymology - "donkey-like." "Jackass," which clearly means the animal, means both foolish/vulgar and stubborn/pugnacious. Wouldn't you expect "asinine" to be similar?



bovine = like a cow.
ovine = like a sheep.
asinine = like an ass.

Source: Dictionary.com, Webster's Merriam.
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:13:08 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

bovine = like a cow.
ovine = like a sheep.
asinine = like an ass.


grapevine = like a grapev
cosine = like a cos
fine = like an f
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:17:17 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

grapevine = like a grapev
cosine = like a cos
fine = like an f



heeheehee. I was thinking about going there, but you did a better job of it.
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:20:48 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

heeheehee. I was thinking about going there, but you did a better job of it.

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March 18th, 2014 at 6:27:26 AM permalink
Gamblor has been nuked for Personal Insult and Trolling:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/17446-mathematicians-fallacy-baccarat/5/#post340839

The intelligent troll would notice that I am not very lenient when I first wake up, so the production of an idiotic post and/or series of posts is better reserved for the afternoon/evening hours when I am in a better mood and have had my coffee.
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March 18th, 2014 at 6:29:15 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Gamblor has been nuked for Personal Insult and Trolling:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/17446-mathematicians-fallacy-baccarat/5/#post340839

The intelligent troll would notice that I am not very lenient when I first wake up, so the production of an idiotic post and/or series of posts is better reserved for the afternoon/evening hours when I am in a better mood and have had my coffee.



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March 18th, 2014 at 7:06:47 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I KEEL YOU! (Jeff Dunham marathon the other night; Achmed the dead terrorist). You got there 30 seconds before me. Good shootin', sheriff.



We saw Jeff Dunham in LV back in December....

He "KEEL'D" us...

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March 18th, 2014 at 10:19:21 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Gamblor has been nuked for Personal Insult and Trolling:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/17446-mathematicians-fallacy-baccarat/5/#post340839

The intelligent troll would notice that I am not very lenient when I first wake up, so the production of an idiotic post and/or series of posts is better reserved for the afternoon/evening hours when I am in a better mood and have had my coffee.



Did you just imply Gamblor was unintelligent and his posts idiotic? Personal insult, 7 days. J/K.
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March 18th, 2014 at 10:56:43 AM permalink
Quote: Sonuvabish

Did you just imply Gamblor was unintelligent and his posts idiotic? Personal insult, 7 days. J/K.



That's the beauty of it. Insulting non-members is a non-offense. So once the troll is nuked, you can say whatever you want about it as long as your post isn't profane.
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March 18th, 2014 at 11:04:44 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

That's the beauty of it. Insulting non-members is a non-offense. So once the troll is nuked, you can say whatever you want about it as long as your post isn't profane.



No, I think I read somewhere b4 you can't insult anyone, member or not. If we can insult non-members, then I got a whole bunch of questions as to what type of insulting things I can say, that a member might find offensive, even though it wasn't directed at them...even though it's pointless because I prob wouldn't say it anyway, with the exception of a possible naughty juiciejennie poll. Clarification please?
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March 18th, 2014 at 11:43:16 AM permalink
Quote: Sonuvabish

No, I think I read somewhere b4 you can't insult anyone, member or not.



You can insult non-members, including nuked members. However, forum rules still apply about profanity and generally acting like gentlemen.
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March 18th, 2014 at 12:25:27 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Gamblor has been nuked for Personal Insult and Trolling:
.



Geez, who didn't see this coming..
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March 18th, 2014 at 12:29:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Geez, who didn't see this coming..



I'd say in this case...what was PROBABLE to occur...did occur.

MathemAticians Fallacy did not come to be.
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March 18th, 2014 at 1:57:58 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

You can insult non-members, including nuked members. However, forum rules still apply about profanity and generally acting like gentlemen.



so is a member a member for life in the context above...even if they havent posted in weeks, months or years?

do we have access to a list of members?

Is obama a member?

I see Frank Sclobete is a member but I i didnt read the very few threads that he occassionally posts on, I wouldnt know it.....and If i mention him unfavorably in a manner where I call him an idiot(I dont no much about him.....I am just using this as an example)...in another section of the board, having not read his handful of entries here and there by him.....it would be a suspension because he is a member ...even if I wasnt aware he was a member.

I think I may have avoided a suspension because I had strong words for John Patrick......and I have no idea if he is registered.

are there certain noteable people that we should know about who are members?

if I wanted to reference mel gibson as a bigot.....is he registered here(he seems to have time on his hands)? Obama as a liar....has he registered...maybe before he became president...
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March 18th, 2014 at 2:19:43 PM permalink
Obama is a member of WOV. (You'll have to figure out who he is). So, he cannot be insulted anymore.
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March 18th, 2014 at 3:09:30 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

so is a member a member for life in the context above...even if they havent posted in weeks, months or years?



If somebody is itching to insult a non-active member, let me know. We may have to take it on a case by case basis. As a generality, I would frown on someone signing up and doing nothing, just to avoid getting insulted.
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March 18th, 2014 at 3:20:45 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If somebody is itching to insult a non-active member, let me know. We may have to take it on a case by case basis. As a generality, I would frown on someone signing up and doing nothing, just to avoid getting insulted.



i was asking the opposite...if someone came on here 5 years ago, 1 year ago, 3 months ago....to post something......are they off limits....just by being a member....do they have the cone of silence around them.

not by original intent.
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March 18th, 2014 at 4:15:03 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

i was asking the opposite...if someone came on here 5 years ago, 1 year ago, 3 months ago....to post something......are they off limits....just by being a member....do they have the cone of silence around them.



The general rule is anyone who has ever made at least one legitimate post, and isn't nuked, has insult protection. I'm open to making exceptions on a case by case basis.
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March 18th, 2014 at 4:21:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

What he actually said was, you don't hire
a hooker for sex, you hire her to leave
when you tell her to. Which every man
knows is a luxury few of us have.



Thanks Bob - then I guess the apocryphal quote shall be attributed to me :)
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March 18th, 2014 at 4:22:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The general rule is anyone who has ever made at least one legitimate post, and isn't nuked, has insult protection. I'm open to making exceptions on a case by case basis.




Is this similar to "drop dead protection" from Franklin Delano Romanowski?
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March 19th, 2014 at 6:01:24 AM permalink
Hmmm I wonder what I read. Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Wizard!!
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March 22nd, 2014 at 9:05:54 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Gamblor has been nuked for Personal Insult and Trolling:

The intelligent troll would notice that I am not very lenient when I first wake up, so the production of an idiotic post and/or series of posts is better reserved for the afternoon/evening hours when I am in a better mood and have had my coffee.

I remember that Gamblor nick. He posted something about "a Zone" which was very reminiscent of a Hippie having Vibes and being in tune with the universe.

I see nothing wrong with ignorant posts as long as the poster maintains a properly receptive stance to being enlightened with at least some new information. People have come on these boards believing a great many myths and even spouting them vociferously. That is bad enough but the fault lies in clinging to the myths and doing it in a loud and offensive manner.
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March 22nd, 2014 at 2:33:31 PM permalink
LOL. Beethoven9th finally got the axe.
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March 22nd, 2014 at 2:59:12 PM permalink
He's taking notes and will come back, loaded for bear.
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March 23rd, 2014 at 7:22:02 PM permalink
Suggestion for moderation.

All suspensions a week or less are no longer appealed or even up for debate. If you're due for a suspension longer than a week, then you can weigh in, as well as all your attorneys. However if you think the under a week ban was so terrible and wrong, you can appeal in pm when you get back.

Why should the mods and the Wizard have to consider parsing every short suspension? It looks like a PITA. And if you've already been banned more than a couple times your appeal will probably not be all that appealing anyway, and you'll be executed forthwith after the quick showtrial.

However if the current way of doing things seems better, carry on.

thanks.
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March 23rd, 2014 at 7:29:33 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Suggestion for moderation.

All suspensions a week or less are no longer appealed or even up for debate. If you're due for a suspension longer than a week, then you can weigh in, as well as all your attorneys. However if you think the under a week ban was so terrible and wrong, you can appeal in pm when you get back.

Why should the mods and the Wizard have to consider parsing every short suspension? It looks like a PITA. And if you've already been banned more than a couple times your appeal will probably not be all that appealing anyway, and you'll be executed forthwith after the quick showtrial.

However if the current way of doing things seems better, carry on.

thanks.



Thanks for the suggestion, rx.
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March 23rd, 2014 at 7:30:32 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

LOL. Beethoven9th finally got the axe.



What did he do wrong? I was on his side about the shower issue.
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March 23rd, 2014 at 7:50:08 PM permalink
Quote: Lemieux66

What did he do wrong? I was on his side about the shower issue.



That's the $64,000 question. I'm still not
sure, and I'm not about to speculate.
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March 23rd, 2014 at 7:51:58 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

That's the $64,000 question. I'm still not
sure, and I'm not about to speculate.



I suppose you could maybe read the post that announced and explained the suspension. Kind of eliminates the need for speculation.
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March 23rd, 2014 at 7:57:29 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I suppose you could maybe read the post that announced and explained the suspension.



Didn't explain it to me, just muddied the
waters. They're still muddy.
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