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MidwestAP
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:15:05 PM permalink
So, JJ has been nuked and every thread related to JJ has been closed or deleted (other than Discussion about the Suspension List). Very curious to find out what happened. Looks like we should know soon.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:17:08 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights


Something about which I have been hypothesizing is if the reason for the banning is something along the lines of trying to bring the board back to it's gambling roots and diverting more off-topic stuff over to DT. JJ has definitely "inspired" a lot of off topic posting here, and there has been a stronger administration stance on off topic posts in the last week or so.



Something I think we all should remind ourselves is that our gracious host is a public figure whose passion and career are tied to the subject of this forum. Wiz is well known throughout the industry, and as such, WoV is on the radar of his peers, potential clients, and potential employers.

Wiz strikes me as somewhat of a perfectionist and one who deeply cares about decorum. His tireless work on deconstructing slots, breaking down new games and/or new side bets, and constantly re-updating his content shows that. This forum is a big part of putting his work out there.

Imagine, then, that it was taken and used for nonsense. Imagine you had a potential client, and when they dug to find out more about you, they found some of the stuff that's happened here. It's kind of like a FaceBook of which he has only partial control. A dangerous thing.

Hopefully we can remember this going forward. Wiz invited us into his virtual home. Let's do our part to keep it tidy.

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February 19th, 2014 at 1:22:53 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

We don't really need a separate thread for this as this thread is for Discussion about the Suspension List, which JuicieJennie is on, so I deleted the other thread as superfluous.



Guys, take a hint here. Read between the lines a bit. There is probably a very good reason that the Wizard is taking his time to pick his words carefully. And probably also a very good reason that Mission deleted that thread. Speculation may not be a great idea here. I am just as curious as anyone else, and I have my own theories, but I think that waiting to see what the Wizard says is a good idea.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:23:47 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Would not “supererogatory” have been the better choice ?



You'll see that 'superfluous,' is actually the second definition of supererogatory:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supererogatory

Thus, they are equal in strength, though I suppose I would have gotten more style points for your suggestion.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:27:30 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Guys, take a hint here. Read between the lines a bit. There is probably a very good reason that the Wizard is taking his time to pick his words carefully. And probably also a very good reason that Mission deleted that thread. Speculation may not be a great idea here. I am just as curious as anyone else, and I have my own theories, but I think that waiting to see what the Wizard says is a good idea.



I would simply because everyone is going to have the answer to the question (including me) when Wizard posts later today. I should mention that I don't have a personal problem with the speculation, per se, other than the inherent pointlessness of it due to the fact that we will know the reason fairly shortly. However, given the fact that the speculation is inherently pointless, I saw no reason that speculation as to something pertaining to a Suspension warranted its own thread.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:31:10 PM permalink
Is this her?

http://ink361.com/app/users/183600986/photos#/photo/640105056188722978_183600986
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:33:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Guys, take a hint here. Read between the lines a bit. There is probably a very good reason that the Wizard is taking his time to pick his words carefully. And probably also a very good reason that Mission deleted that thread. Speculation may not be a great idea here. I am just as curious as anyone else, and I have my own theories, but I think that waiting to see what the Wizard says is a good idea.



+1. My thoughts exactly.

If my theories are correct, then what has transpired in the past 20 hours makes sense and nessesitates the need for a carefully crafted explanation.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:33:25 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Is this her?

http://ink361.com/app/users/183600986/photos#/photo/640105056188722978_183600986

It appears to be her with the folks from the topless video. She would have to verify, I think, before you had a definitive answer.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:57:15 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

She would have to verify, I think, before you had a definitive answer.



Which is beginning to look more and more unlikely?
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:01:58 PM permalink
I just want BOB to make his final prediction on JJ since he likes to only comments on things when he was right. Last night he popped In. To say I knew it. Yet every time he is Wong its pure silence. It seems everyone may be getting an awnser and closure they are looking for. Probably not a juicy as they are hoping.
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:07:33 PM permalink
Did I see SOOPOO's handle just turn red? Dangerous waters lately.
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:12:28 PM permalink
This is exciting. So many suspensions lately. The Wiz with an official statement forthcoming. Now would be the perfect time to charge for access to this thread. I'd pay $5 for the viewing pleasure. Only members get to see The Wizard's official statement on the JJ.

I may stay at work late so I don't miss the actual statement while driving!!!!



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February 19th, 2014 at 2:28:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I just want BOB to make his final prediction on JJ since he likes to only comments on things when he was right. Last night he popped In. To say I knew it. Yet every time he is Wong its pure silence.



Are you saying that EvenBob is secretly Stanford Wong???
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:46:15 PM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

Did I see SOOPOO's handle just turn red? Dangerous waters lately.


I have no idea what the full terms of that long ago truce were, but the post cited as a violation sounds like a sincere attempt to defend what may have been an opposing party in the truce. I suppose the violation must have been the indirect alluding to an alleged PM comment by Nareed a year and a half ago in order to refute AxelWolf's erroneous allegation that HB had made just such a PM comment. It does get tricky when trying to defend one party creates a risk of offending another.
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:46:17 PM permalink
Haha...the reaction to JJ and her suspension has been hilarious! Some of you guys need another hobby. (Nah, then it wouldn't be as entertaining here) :D
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:48:59 PM permalink
Gotta love this.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/16755-vegas-in-september/#post329378

Seriously to the powers that be in here. You need more guys like him!
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:52:23 PM permalink
I've been reprimanded on divulging the contents of PM (in particular, the agreement between another member and I to share the winnings of the WoV football pool). PMs are just that, private. Perhaps even divulging that you had a conversation via PM is breaking the rules (though I don't think so).
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February 19th, 2014 at 2:52:37 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

Gotta love this.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/16755-vegas-in-september/#post329378

Seriously to the powers that be in here. You need more guys like him!



No, we don't. RolexWatch is suspended for a minimum of 3 days for this post , pending possible further action.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:13:39 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

No, we don't. RolexWatch is suspended for a minimum of 3 days for this post , pending possible further action.

I cant find anything offensive in that post, he didn't even say who he was talking about ( FYI I liked Dallas buyers club)

RolexWatch seemed to keep Gr8player on his toes, I have come to like RW, who ever he really is. Gr8 posted less boring nonsense Bac poems .
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:15:16 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Something I think we all should remind ourselves is that our gracious host is a public figure whose passion and career are tied to the subject of this forum. Wiz is well known throughout the industry, and as such, WoV is on the radar of his peers, potential clients, and potential employers.

Wiz strikes me as somewhat of a perfectionist and one who deeply cares about decorum. His tireless work on deconstructing slots, breaking down new games and/or new side bets, and constantly re-updating his content shows that. This forum is a big part of putting his work out there.

Imagine, then, that it was taken and used for nonsense. Imagine you had a potential client, and when they dug to find out more about you, they found some of the stuff that's happened here. It's kind of like a FaceBook of which he has only partial control. A dangerous thing.

Hopefully we can remember this going forward. Wiz invited us into his virtual home. Let's do our part to keep it tidy.

*The post is personal opinion, and not necessary that of management*



+1. Obviously there are rules to be respected in the Wizard's house. Take off your shoes. Address the wife as Mrs. Wizard. Don't pee in the pool. The Wizard and his team of admins can ban anyone for any reason, and we have the choice to respect that, or hit the road.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:17:02 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

No, we don't. RolexWatch is suspended for a minimum of 3 days for this post , pending possible further action.



He also went by egalite who was banned and then he resigned. Yet on the same day of banishment he registered himself as RolexWatch.

This is his usual MO. When he has nasty draw downs (assuming he even plays) he goes online and go on his usual rant. It goes on and on and never stops!
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:17:12 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: beachbumbabs

No, we don't. RolexWatch is suspended for a minimum of 3 days for this post , pending possible further action.

I cant find anything offensive in that post, he didn't even say who he was talking about ( FYI I liked Dallas buyers club)

RolexWatch seemed to keep Gr8player on his toes, I have come to like RW, who ever he really is. Gr8 posted less boring nonsense Bac poems .



Start reading from this post and it is blatantly apparent who he is talking to and that post is highly offensive.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/16755-vegas-in-september/4/#post328314
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:17:22 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: beachbumbabs

No, we don't. RolexWatch is suspended for a minimum of 3 days for this post , pending possible further action.

I cant find anything offensive in that post, he didn't even say who he was talking about ( FYI I liked Dallas buyers club)

RolexWatch seemed to keep Gr8player on his toes, I have come to like RW, who ever he really is. Gr8 posted less boring nonsense Bac poems .



Not sure why it grabbed that post about Dallas Buyer's Club. My error, but the link has been corrected. Try again.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:24:54 PM permalink
After further review, RolexWatch is permanently banned, nuclear option,

Multiple insults/ severity of insults.
Severity of Language; profanity.
Bullying/Trolling.
Possible exposure of PM/confidential information.
Possible violation of Multiple Accounts rule (subject to interpretation).
Body of negative comments/slurs/insults during membership of less than 90 days.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:28:52 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

We don't really need a separate thread for this as this thread is for Discussion about the Suspension List, which JuicieJennie is on, so I deleted the other thread as superfluous.



I did not act with proper decorum. I apologize.
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February 19th, 2014 at 3:38:28 PM permalink
Quote: Sonuvabish

I did not act with proper decorum. I apologize.



There's nothing to apologize for, though I appreciate it. The thread was just unnecessary, but not a Rule violation of any kind.
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:02:38 PM permalink
Is Wiz still editing his JuicieJennie address?
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:06:57 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Is Wiz still editing his JuicieJennie address?



JuicieJennie mania seems to be fading quickly, optimal announcement time may have been around 4 hours ago.
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:22:05 PM permalink
Wow, so the RW-john-O got the gavel, again? I'm shocked, shocked I say, hey hey!
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:34:15 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

JuicieJennie mania seems to be fading quickly, optimal announcement time may have been around 4 hours ago.



I am officially christening this whole affair as "Jennie-Gate"

I welcome other suggestions as always :)
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:38:09 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

Wow, so the RW-john-O got the gavel, again? I'm shocked, shocked I say, hey hey!



You know he is going to pop back. He can't help it. Gr8 is here. He goes where Gr8 goes.

This Coke and Pepsi rivalry will never cease.

And I need to stay away and go level my Paragon points to prep for March 25th! LOL.
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:47:01 PM permalink
Apologies if I'm asking a stupid question but why was Soopoo suspended? Was it because of the HB saga?
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:47:48 PM permalink
SOOPOO is not supposed to mention Nareed in a post in any way, shape or form and vice-versa pursuant to a truce.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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February 19th, 2014 at 4:49:49 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

SOOPOO is not supposed to mention Nareed in a post in any way, shape or form and vice-versa pursuant to a truce.



Thank you
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:09:29 PM permalink
So, was jennie-baby merely suspended or did she get nuked? Dang, I gotta get myself another mini-keg of Guinness, hey hey.
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:11:35 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

So, was jennie-baby merely suspended or did she get nuked? Dang, I gotta get myself another mini-keg of Guinness, hey hey.



I think her torch was extinguished and she is off the island for good...mushroom cloud and all...

Waiting for the official explanation.
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:11:49 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

So, was jennie-baby merely suspended or did she get nuked? Dang, I gotta get myself another mini-keg of Guinness, hey hey.


Nuked:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:34:48 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

SOOPOO is not supposed to mention Nareed in a post in any way, shape or form and vice-versa pursuant to a truce.



Exactly. His sentence is three days.
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:37:11 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

I am officially christening this whole affair as "Jennie-Gate"

I welcome other suggestions as always :)


Juicaquiddick ?
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:40:17 PM permalink
Quote: gpac1377

Juicaquiddick ?



That could be taken many different ways and perhaps it is hitting too close to home? :)
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:44:31 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

That could be taken many different ways and perhaps it is hitting too close to home? :)


It's versatile :)
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:46:33 PM permalink
Just a random thought, no more,no less .....
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:46:45 PM permalink
Quote: gpac1377

Juicaquiddick ?



Chippies Ahoy
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:54:41 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Chippies Ahoy



I think perhaps we can revisit the naming of the saga after the Wizard has made his announcement.

Now that could be fun :)
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February 19th, 2014 at 5:59:52 PM permalink
The forbidden tale of Black sheep Jenny.
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:03:31 PM permalink
Quote: gpac1377

Juicaquiddick ?


Quote: michael99000

Chippies Ahoy


Combine the two - Chippiequiddick.
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:04:25 PM permalink
Statement on the Banning of JuicieJennie (version 4.3)

On October 26, 2011, Statman was nuked for reasons of events that happened outside of the forum. I don’t think anybody missed him and nobody ever asked for details. On February 18, 2014, I invoked this option a second time against on JuicieJennie (JJ). Letting it go unnoticed is not a luxury I have this time.

Yesterday JuicieJennie was in town and I was on the Strip too with both a lunch and dinner appointment. With time to kill, I agreed to meet her in between my appointments to play some blackjack. She was uncomfortable with the ratio of her bankroll to the table minimum and generally singing the blues about money. As an advocate of playing within one's means, I made a deal with her regarding splitting any win or loss. Given that she has written that she likes blackjack and accepts “chippies” from her male playing companions, I probably should have been on guard for what happened next.

Suffice it to say, this turned into a huge misunderstanding and an enormous argument ensued over how much was won/lost and how it should be shared. Both parties got very angry and it ended up with her being banned from the site in the heat of the moment. Hours after the blow up she offered via text to return the money that I felt was unfairly paid to her, while admitting no fault, in the interests of making peace.

I think we could both agree that it was unfortunate that things ended so badly over a dispute of about $40. However, in my "Great Leap Forward" plan, I think the forum would be a better place without JJ. Thus, the nuclear option, which was invoked in the heat of anger, will remain. Let the record show that JJ leaves the forum under protest and that I make no public accusations against her character.
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:08:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I made a deal with her regarding splitting any win or loss.



So you made a limited partnership and she went
nuts and lost a whole lot, or claimed she did,
and you had to pony up the difference.

Didn't I see this in a movie, except one of them ended
up in the desert?
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:10:20 PM permalink
Wow, all that sturm und drang over forty bucks, amazing, hey hey!
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February 19th, 2014 at 6:11:00 PM permalink
With ALL due respect, I really cannot believe you would ever put yourself in that situation. Most of us could have seen something like this coming a mile away with any dealings with her. And you are far smarter than me.
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