Discussion about the Suspension List
December 19th, 2012 at 6:00:52 PM
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Quote: MrVCould you please expunge my prior suspension, too?
That was for the infamous heifer/fatso insult.
It isn't that I'm opposed to forgiveness, or that you're not deserving of it, but it would set a bad precedent if I started expunging past suspensions. Everybody will ask for it. In Nareed's case there was some disagreement between the admins about whether "nitwit" crossed the line. In the end we decided it didn't, so it was expunged.
Sorry for being a Grinch about it.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 20th, 2012 at 6:12:09 AM
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Quote: WizardIt isn't that I'm opposed to forgiveness, or that you're not deserving of it, but it would set a bad precedent if I started expunging past suspensions. Everybody will ask for it. In Nareed's case there was some disagreement between the admins about whether "nitwit" crossed the line. In the end we decided it didn't, so it was expunged.
I agree. Forgiveness for transgressions comes in the form of reinstatement of membership at the end of the sentence. The record of the trangression and sentence should remain.
In the recent "Nitwit" case, I was the "target" and agreed that I overreacted. So there really wasn't a transgression and the entry was removed from the list.
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Regarding the comments about clickable urls in signature lines:
I would like them as well. If there is any inclination to include them, then I suggest some method of ranking members into three categories: Newbie, Member, Senior Member.
Newbies are those members still on anti-bot limitations. Members are newbies that have outlasted the initial limitations. Senior Members are those that have met certain criteria (duration and/or number of posts) and are allowed to put urls and other formatting code (up to a limit) in signatures.
For the record, I include urls to Dave Miller Weddings and DJ Dave Miller in the signature of the DJ forums I belong to, and Reverend Dave Miller on the church's forum.
I wish I could put an url to Poker For Roulette in my signature here. I guess I'll just have to settle for adding a link in any thread where the opportunity presents itself. Like this one. So far Mike hasn't objected to it, so I gotta say thanks for that. Thanks Mike!
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On a somewhat unrelated note, I recently received a private message, where I spent a good 15 minuted carefully choosing the words for my reply, only to discover that the user is not accepting private messages (or has me blocked). There's 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back....
There should be a loophole that allows replies.
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December 20th, 2012 at 6:27:19 AM
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Why are we worried about URL's in the signature line for new posters?
If they are spammers, they will be gone in short order anyway.
If they are new to the forum, and legit, if you make it too difficult, you will drive them away before you can see their value.
I think what we have been doing has been working pretty well. Spammers get busted right away, and the newer, "Hi, I am new here" gets a short life,and then gets busted.
Let's not fix what is working.
If they are spammers, they will be gone in short order anyway.
If they are new to the forum, and legit, if you make it too difficult, you will drive them away before you can see their value.
I think what we have been doing has been working pretty well. Spammers get busted right away, and the newer, "Hi, I am new here" gets a short life,and then gets busted.
Let's not fix what is working.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
December 20th, 2012 at 6:54:50 AM
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I think MrV ought to be congratulated on being the prophet that he is on the post he was punished for. Read it it again and note recent events concerning the not so hot one's weight!
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
December 20th, 2012 at 9:51:27 AM
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Quote: WizardPerhaps it does need to be spelled out better. There is already a rule against spam. I consider somebody who is obviously only posting to get his/her URL or Email in the signature as a spammer. Lately I've seen a lot of new members saying something like "Hi, I'm new here," with a URL in the signature to a commercial site, usually an Internet casino. Those posts are quickly busted and the member nuked, without even the dignity of being remembered in the suspension list.
So far your "I know it when I see it" standard has worked. I'm more for common-law than code law whenever possible. I would just request something simple. My guide would be like when you see an op-Ed in the newspaper where they mention the writers site. A short tag no more than a sentence and thu URL
Eg: have you tried the newest side bet? Casinowaronsevenout.com.
Nobody here plans on making a fortune from the link, but just allows quality back link for being a quality member.
Just my thought.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
December 21st, 2012 at 11:36:20 AM
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Just as a side comment, I noticed that the forum was visited today by mkl654321. I wonder how often he drops by.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:38:38 AM
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He was here yesterday too.
December 21st, 2012 at 12:11:37 PM
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Quote: DocJust as a side comment, I noticed that the forum was visited today by mkl654321. I wonder how often he drops by.
I for one would be happy to have him back posting.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
December 21st, 2012 at 12:16:00 PM
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Quote: RaleighCrapsI for one would be happy to have him back posting.
I welcome him back too.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 21st, 2012 at 12:33:04 PM
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Quote: WizardI welcome him back too.
Oh ye of short memories....
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 21st, 2012 at 12:38:40 PM
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Quote: EvenBobOh ye of short memories....
It's been 1 year, 8 months, 20 days since
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/4892-pai-gow-tiles-help/#post64400
Quote: WizardI don't think so. My monitor nearly caught on fire after displaying the words in his resignation. I do not want to go through that again.
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December 21st, 2012 at 12:40:01 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneThis is probably the strictest site I have seen. It's definitely moderated tighter than 2+2 Poker. I'm okay with that though since I generally behave myself.
Thank you, that's closer to what I meant. Da Buzzard must have woken up on the wrong end of the bed.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:11:59 PM
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Quote: EvenBobOh ye of short memories....
Speaking of short memories...
I never caught the "I was completely and utterly wrong about everything I posted about who would win the election" Can someone link me to that post?
December 21st, 2012 at 2:18:11 PM
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I think mkl would be a fine member of this forum, in the absence of JerryLogan and all of his sock puppets. Not only was Jerry nasty, he was outstandingly effective at getting under mkl's skin and setting him on fire.
Of course, mkl and EvenBob would still disagree on everything, but their battles (without Jerry's input) were no more violent or offensive than what goes on around here much of the time.
Of course, mkl and EvenBob would still disagree on everything, but their battles (without Jerry's input) were no more violent or offensive than what goes on around here much of the time.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:03:43 PM
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Quote: DocI think mkl would be a fine member of this forum, in the absence of JerryLogan and all of his sock puppets. Not only was Jerry nasty, he was outstandingly effective at getting under mkl's skin and setting him on fire.
Of course, mkl and EvenBob would still disagree on everything, but their battles (without Jerry's input) were no more violent or offensive than what goes on around here much of the time.
mkl was a nasty troll who went out of his way to intentionally insult and alienate anyone he could, regardless of whether or not they agreed with him. He could not stand to not have the last word on any subject. This forum has been much better for his absence.
A falling knife has no handle.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:51:37 PM
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Quote: Mosca
mkl was a nasty troll .
Didn't he send a hugely nasty PM to Mike that
got him nuked?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 21st, 2012 at 8:20:37 PM
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Quote: EvenBobDidn't he send a hugely nasty PM to Mike that
got him nuked?
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I thought he resigned.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
December 21st, 2012 at 8:54:53 PM
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Back in April this got him 2 weeks.
Tell you what--I'll "admit" I was wrong if you'll "admit" to having been a complete, unmitigated asshole about it.
Tell you what--I'll "admit" I was wrong if you'll "admit" to having been a complete, unmitigated asshole about it.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:30:59 AM
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Quote: DocI think mkl would be a fine member of this forum,
I'm sure the good Father can check me on this one, but I think the Anti-Christ has to come to the forum before the Apocalypse. See? That's why the world didn't end yesterday
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
December 22nd, 2012 at 6:07:04 AM
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To anyone who thinks that letting mlk654321 back in is a good idea, I invite you to go back and pick a dozen of his back and forth discussions at random, and read them. And then decide.
A falling knife has no handle.
December 22nd, 2012 at 6:51:11 AM
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He's generated over a dozen posts just for visiting the forum and he's got to be getting a kick out of that.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:33:11 AM
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I concede that mkl was/is a curmudgeon who would gripe and even argue with anyone about most anything. However, in the absence of JerryLogan, I don't think he was any worse than maybe a dozen other people who post fairly often. Just think about all the threads around here that are just petty bickering from people who like to gripe and argue. In contrast, Jerry just sent mkl way out over the edge. Regularly. He had a real knack for that.
And that was the problem -- I don't think it was possible for them to co-exist. I got amusement by posting several times that there was no single topic on which Jerry, mkl, and EvenBob could agree. Because there were three of them, you would occasionally see a semi-random two of them on the same side of an issue. Usually (but not always) it was EvenBob sorta agreeing with one or the other of Jerry and mkl briefly, with the other two being vicious to each other. EvenBob was the most clever, in that he could survive here while the others fought to their mutual demise. Jerry was banned in multiple identities -- it's hard to keep the devil dead -- and mkl resigned several times, the final (?) time in response to a short suspension.
My understanding is that mkl could return to the forum if he were to submit an un-resignation request to the Wizard. If he did that, I sense that an accompanying apology would be quite in order.
And that was the problem -- I don't think it was possible for them to co-exist. I got amusement by posting several times that there was no single topic on which Jerry, mkl, and EvenBob could agree. Because there were three of them, you would occasionally see a semi-random two of them on the same side of an issue. Usually (but not always) it was EvenBob sorta agreeing with one or the other of Jerry and mkl briefly, with the other two being vicious to each other. EvenBob was the most clever, in that he could survive here while the others fought to their mutual demise. Jerry was banned in multiple identities -- it's hard to keep the devil dead -- and mkl resigned several times, the final (?) time in response to a short suspension.
My understanding is that mkl could return to the forum if he were to submit an un-resignation request to the Wizard. If he did that, I sense that an accompanying apology would be quite in order.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:16:47 AM
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" If he did that, I sense that an accompanying apology would be quite in order. "
But Doc, what if he did not accept your apology ?
But Doc, what if he did not accept your apology ?
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:25:52 AM
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Quote: 1BBHe's generated over a dozen posts just for visiting the forum and he's got to be getting a kick out of that.
Oh, absolutely. I'm taking that into account as I write, that he is being talked about and cannot reply. "I have no mouth, but I must scream."
A falling knife has no handle.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:52:30 AM
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Quote: Buzzard" If he did that, I sense that an accompanying apology would be quite in order. "
But Doc, what if he did not accept your apology ?
Too Funny
Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:54:43 AM
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I hope Doc thought it was funny. Sometimes people take me serious. What's up with that ?
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:36:54 AM
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Quote: BuzzardSometimes people take me serious.
Shirley, you jest. (I know -- don't call you surely.)
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:53:15 PM
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An incredibly educational thread-point.
How does anyone KNOW this mkl character isn't sitting back laughing his behind off at each and every one of the "clever" comments being elicited by his "absenteeism"?
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How does anyone KNOW this mkl character isn't sitting back laughing his behind off at each and every one of the "clever" comments being elicited by his "absenteeism"?
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December 22nd, 2012 at 1:08:34 PM
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Quote: iluvdisco33An incredibly educational thread-point.
How does anyone KNOW this mkl character isn't sitting back laughing his behind off at each and every one of the "clever" comments being elicited by his "absenteeism"?
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He probably is. Who cares, as long as he isn't disturbing anyone. It's like the difference between jacking off in private and jacking off in public. One, no one cares about; the other is an arrest on decency charges.
A falling knife has no handle.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:11:52 PM
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Quote: MoscaIt's like the difference between jacking off in private and jacking off in public. One, no one cares about; the other is an arrest on decency charges.
Its not necessary to bring up your past indiscretions
to make a point, we don't need those images in our
heads.
Too late, there they are!
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:48:48 PM
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Quote: MoscaHe probably is. Who cares, as long as he isn't disturbing anyone. It's like the difference between jacking off in private and jacking off in public. One, no one cares about; the other is an arrest on decency charges.
You're right, who should care. But as far as disturbing anybody, these posts could disturb one or two. And I'm not buying that Evenbob was overly clever for not being slashed. I see it as a sign of weakness that anyone who is addicted to something just isn't willing to risk by putting it on the line. If mkl123456 was chopped for whatever, I'd look up to a guy who isn't chicken to identify a superior intelligence along with being able to walk away from a bunch of anonymous pretenders. Just my opinion.
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:37:48 PM
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Quote: iluvdisco33If mkl123456 was chopped for whatever, I'd look up to a guy who isn't chicken to identify a superior intelligence along with being able to walk away from a bunch of anonymous pretenders..
MKL, I knew it was you. Thats why you've been on my
case since you arrived here 5 days ago.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:38:55 PM
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Feel free to leave at anytime. You won't be missed !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:48:18 PM
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Quote: EvenBobMKL, I knew it was you. Thats why you've been on my
case since you arrived here 5 days ago.
Nope! And please don't leave on my behalf like Buzzard just suggested. I'm just a normal, alert and intuitive guy who's enjoyed reading this forum over the years. I remember mkl and he was full of himself along with a knack for making people piss their pants. Except for Jerry Logan.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:12:21 PM
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Quote: iluvdisco33Nope!
And I don't believe you. Blocked. Buh Bye..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:35:04 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAnd I don't believe you. Blocked. Buh Bye..
What's buh suppose to mean?
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:51:48 PM
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Quote: EvenBobMKL, I knew it was you.
What was the pattern? New poster, types normal for a bit, then has all sorts of information on posts that happened a long time ago, in this case years?
We'll see. I had my own suspicions. But in any case, welcome Disco. If that is your real name... ;)
(If you are mkl, then welcome back)
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December 22nd, 2012 at 5:03:52 PM
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Quote: MoscaHe probably is. Who cares, as long as he isn't disturbing anyone.
Why would anyone spend a picosecond of their time wondering what mkl is doing? I could care less what he does, as long as he does it somewhere else.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:33:02 PM
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Quote: NareedWhy would anyone spend a picosecond of their time wondering what mkl is doing? I could care less what he does, as long as he does it somewhere else.
It' "couldn't" care less Nareed. Hey this is funny: when I typed in your name my spellchecker changed it to "Barred"!
December 23rd, 2012 at 5:04:02 AM
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Quote: iluvdisco33when I typed in your name my spellchecker changed it to "Barred"!
Meet the real Nareed ?
https://plus.google.com/102657308676321068412/posts
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January 21st, 2013 at 1:44:12 PM
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Iluvdisco33 has been Suspended for Three Days for the following post:
http://www.wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/12685-can-the-management-please-refrain-from-vandalizing-posts/#post211785
http://www.wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/12685-can-the-management-please-refrain-from-vandalizing-posts/#post211785
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
January 30th, 2013 at 9:11:44 PM
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ILuvDisco33 is being Suspended for one week for the following post:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/12780-show-tomorrow-night-at-7-30pm/3/#post214901
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/12780-show-tomorrow-night-at-7-30pm/3/#post214901
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
February 4th, 2013 at 3:54:35 PM
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I just noticed that dm is a restricted user but is not on the suspension list. This is a longtime member who posted up until Jan. 13th.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
February 4th, 2013 at 4:03:19 PM
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That was Jan of 2012, he was axed a year ago.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 4th, 2013 at 4:13:49 PM
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He was permanently banned for using multiple identities, and for insulting the Wiz with the non-dm names.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
February 4th, 2013 at 4:22:18 PM
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Thanks guys. I guess I didn't miss him that much. I'm surprised that banned members can still log on. What's the point?
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
February 4th, 2013 at 4:23:23 PM
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Quote: 1BBThanks guys. I guess I didn't miss him that much. I'm surprised that banned members can still log on. What's the point?
to read the forum?
February 4th, 2013 at 4:27:51 PM
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Right but you don't have to log on to read the forum.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
February 4th, 2013 at 4:48:04 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
