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DRich
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November 28th, 2015 at 9:06:57 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

No 4 to a royal draws today. Just this highlight five hands in...



Why did you hold the 6? Axelwolf would have paid you more than that for a picture of a malfunction.
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November 28th, 2015 at 9:09:23 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Why did you hold the 6? Axelwolf would have paid you more than that for a picture of a malfunction.


I'll leave that for others.
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November 28th, 2015 at 9:51:34 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

No 4 to a royal draws today. Just this highlight five hands in...



Nice one!

I was playing five-line Jokers Spin for nickels at one credit per line ($0.25/hand) last night waiting out a UX machine I wanted to vulture and hit Quins holding a pair on one line for $10, so that was cool.

Forgot to get a pic. I did get a pic of a UX vulture on quarters holding two high and missing a sequential Royal by a suit on the bottom line. Needed a Club to be a Spade...lol
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November 29th, 2015 at 1:16:12 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

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No 4 to a royal draws today. Just this highlight five hands in...



Why did you hold the 6? Axelwolf would have paid you more than that for a picture of a malfunction.



When I got dealt fours with a 6 on Bonus last month, I held them all, and then thought after. Axel might have gave me more money for a malfunction! Doh!

But I'd take dealt Aces on multiline. If I've got dealt Aces, I don't remember... Gf has, and pulled the kicker on the draw! And she's got multiplied Aces on both STP and UX. I've not received any of those. Bah.
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November 29th, 2015 at 2:20:59 AM permalink
I've gotten dealt Quad Aces vulturing UX on one occasion, and then Quad Kings on a separate occasion, I want to say both nickels, but one of them may have been dimes.
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November 29th, 2015 at 11:29:38 AM permalink
Before...



After...

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November 29th, 2015 at 5:13:43 PM permalink
how much vp do you play in a day to get sooooooooooooo many opportunities at 4 to a Royal?
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November 29th, 2015 at 6:00:24 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

how much vp do you play in a day to get sooooooooooooo many opportunities at 4 to a Royal?


They just love to harass me :-)
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November 29th, 2015 at 6:15:16 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

how much vp do you play in a day to get sooooooooooooo many opportunities at 4 to a Royal?



A dealt four to the royal happens once every 2,825 hands (I'm sure someone will check my math!). It's not THAT rare... I've had that dealt three times in an hour before...

Sometimes not once in a whole weekend.
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November 29th, 2015 at 7:23:52 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

A dealt four to the royal happens once every 2,825 hands (I'm sure someone will check my math!). It's not THAT rare... I've had that dealt three times in an hour before...

Sometimes not once in a whole weekend.



I haven't had one in the last 4 trips. However each trip usually only has about 2000 hands.
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November 29th, 2015 at 7:26:44 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

A dealt four to the royal happens once every 2,825 hands (I'm sure someone will check my math!). It's not THAT rare... I've had that dealt three times in an hour before...

Sometimes not once in a whole weekend.



Isn't it 4*5*47/2,598,960 =~ 1 in 2765? ;)

And actually I goofed earlier too...Aces is going through a much terrible drought than I was initially thinking. It's a 10-cycle drought now (1 in 22,026). I was thinking about the number of "Royal Scares" you see per royal...oops.

And I don't want to imagine bricking this many in a row. I went 4.5 years without converting. Just broke that in September. I didn't count the misses, but it had to be triple digits.
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November 29th, 2015 at 7:43:43 PM permalink
So far in this thread since I've started taking pictures, I'm 0 for 30 in the last 24 days including the four misses after the last one on DSTP and a couple I missed pictures of. This doesn't count the number of misses between that last one and when I started this thread.
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November 29th, 2015 at 9:20:27 PM permalink
Can I count this miss I just got playing the app on my phone?

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November 30th, 2015 at 1:11:29 AM permalink
If you feel like it.

How mad you gonna be if the streak ends on play money?

Nice accuracy. I screwed up on the plane back from Disney World after about 700 in a row. I thought I held the card, but nope.
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November 30th, 2015 at 11:27:25 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Isn't it 4*5*47/2,598,960 =~ 1 in 2765? ;)

And actually I goofed earlier too...Aces is going through a much terrible drought than I was initially thinking. It's a 10-cycle drought now (1 in 22,026). I was thinking about the number of "Royal Scares" you see per royal...oops.

And I don't want to imagine bricking this many in a row. I went 4.5 years without converting. Just broke that in September. I didn't count the misses, but it had to be triple digits.



i think it has to be 46 (instead of 47).. because the 47th card gives you the dealt royal.
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November 30th, 2015 at 11:33:47 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

If you feel like it.

How mad you gonna be if the streak ends on play money?

Nice accuracy. I screwed up on the plane back from Disney World after about 700 in a row. I thought I held the card, but nope.


About the accuracy. The two mistakes were from hitting bumps in the road. I play it a lot when friends are driving. Happens a lot.

My last two royals on it, both came holding AJ10 and drawing KQ. And they happened 54 deals apart.



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November 30th, 2015 at 11:46:45 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

i think it has to be 46 (instead of 47).. because the 47th card gives you the dealt royal.



When dealt 4 to Royal in the first 4 cards, which there are 4*5 = 20 ways to do that, there are 48 cards left to choose the last card, 47 of those lead to "4 to a Royal". No?

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My last two royals on it, both came holding AJ10 and drawing KQ. And they happened 54 deals apart.



I got a Royal on my 8th round when I first got the app. I was not happy. Got another one about 1500 rounds later. Definitely overroyalled, bah. I don't play it much.
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November 30th, 2015 at 11:56:59 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

...I don't play it much.


Same here. Basically while a passenger on the road. It's a battery drainer.
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November 30th, 2015 at 1:13:18 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Same here. Basically while a passenger on the road. It's a battery drainer.

It's extremely fun on the iPad. Bigger screen and longer battery life. I purchased just the Ultimate X package so that's what I play.

I know you will never pay for anything ;)
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November 30th, 2015 at 1:19:01 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

When dealt 4 to Royal in the first 4 cards, which there are 4*5 = 20 ways to do that, there are 48 cards left to choose the last card, 47 of those lead to "4 to a Royal". No?



Yes yes.. you are correct.. my bad... thanks for the correction.
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November 30th, 2015 at 1:59:42 PM permalink
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It's extremely fun on the iPad. Bigger screen and longer battery life. I purchased just the Ultimate X package so that's what I play.

I know you will never pay for anything ;)


Yeah, I just can't afford that $4.99 :-)

Plus I like the +100% 9/6 JoB STP!
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November 30th, 2015 at 5:17:19 PM permalink
What app is that?
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November 30th, 2015 at 5:21:24 PM permalink
Video poker pocket. It's free in the app store.
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November 30th, 2015 at 5:24:32 PM permalink
I know it was said before but I cannot find it, which app has ultimate x, I'm already going to assume no correction feature
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November 30th, 2015 at 5:28:15 PM permalink
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I know it was said before but I cannot find it, which app has ultimate x, I'm already going to assume no correction feature


This one has UX on it. It's 8/6 JoB. Not sure what tables are on the pay for games. And correct, no correction for it.
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November 30th, 2015 at 5:40:40 PM permalink
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I know it was said before but I cannot find it, which app has ultimate x, I'm already going to assume no correction feature

For the iPad it is called "Best of Video Poker."
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December 1st, 2015 at 10:29:12 AM permalink
This would've bugged me on a real game.

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December 2nd, 2015 at 4:09:21 PM permalink
I keep trying.



I also had a draw yesterday in Toledo on single line 8/5 BP that missed too.
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December 3rd, 2015 at 9:56:30 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I keep trying.



I also had a draw yesterday in Toledo on single line 8/5 BP that missed too.


so it's about 1 in 2800 to get 4 to a Royal.
it took me about 8hrs to play 5000 hands (for Diamond in a Day).

How many hands do you play a day?
and how is it AP to play -EV games like Spin Poker?
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December 3rd, 2015 at 10:18:57 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

...How many hands do you play a day?
and how is it AP to play -EV games like Spin Poker?


No, SP is not AP play. I do "gamble" once in a while :-) And I don't count hands.
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December 3rd, 2015 at 4:12:37 PM permalink
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No, SP is not AP play. I do "gamble" once in a while :-) And I don't count hands.


Counting hands is easy, but a questionable habit.
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December 3rd, 2015 at 4:16:55 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I keep trying.



I also had a draw yesterday in Toledo on single line 8/5 BP that missed too.


so it's about 1 in 2800 to get 4 to a Royal.
it took me about 8hrs to play 5000 hands (for Diamond in a Day).

How many hands do you play a day?
and how is it AP to play -EV games like Spin Poker?



Spin Poker is the same (EV wise) as any other standard (non-variant) VP game. All that really changes is the volatility.
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December 3rd, 2015 at 5:02:34 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I keep trying.



I also had a draw yesterday in Toledo on single line 8/5 BP that missed too.


so it's about 1 in 2800 to get 4 to a Royal.
it took me about 8hrs to play 5000 hands (for Diamond in a Day).

How many hands do you play a day?
and how is it AP to play -EV games like Spin Poker?



Spin Poker is the same (EV wise) as any other standard (non-variant) VP game. All that really changes is the volatility.



It should be mentioned that on many Spin Poker machines, a player can bet less than five per line and still get the full 800-FOR-1 payout on a Royal.
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December 3rd, 2015 at 5:28:16 PM permalink
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It should be mentioned that on many Spin Poker machines, a player can bet less than five per line and still get the full 800-FOR-1 payout on a Royal.


Rivers, Pittsburgh. All of them are just one credit per line. Max bet is 9 quarters lol.
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December 3rd, 2015 at 7:41:31 PM permalink
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Rivers, Pittsburgh. All of them are just one credit per line. Max bet is 9 quarters lol.



Assuming you're playing the quarters ones. HL has $1's and $5's now, I believe.

Also, I play around on nickels, but you can bet more than one per line, but only if you're playing all nine lines.
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December 3rd, 2015 at 8:59:14 PM permalink
You're right. There is the regular 45 credit max bet in high limit.
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December 4th, 2015 at 7:10:15 AM permalink
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It should be mentioned that on many Spin Poker machines, a player can bet less than five per line and still get the full 800-FOR-1 payout on a Royal.


so if only 1 coin-in per line to get the 800-1 for the Royal, then spin poker is better than the regular version of the game?
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December 4th, 2015 at 11:06:55 AM permalink
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so if only 1 coin-in per line to get the 800-1 for the Royal, then spin poker is better than the regular version of the game?



I suppose the answer is yes if both games have the same paytable otherwise and both are negative expectation games. The Spin Poker would have a lower Expected Loss per hour assuming the denom is the same.

If it is a positive expectation game, then they are equal, percentage wise, just need to bet the Max.
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December 6th, 2015 at 7:19:09 PM permalink
Haven't had a draw in a few days but got one today. Naturally it missed.

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December 6th, 2015 at 11:20:13 PM permalink
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It should be mentioned that on many Spin Poker machines, a player can bet less than five per line and still get the full 800-FOR-1 payout on a Royal.



Many??? Disagree. I've only found one like this in my life of dozens of units checked (M Resort Las Vegas - 32 degree bar). I've found more units that require more than 5 credits for the 800 for 1 pay (Blue Chip and Horseshoe Hammond in Indiana).

Quote: Mission146

Assuming you're playing the quarters ones. HL has $1's and $5's now, I believe.

Also, I play around on nickels, but you can bet more than one per line, but only if you're playing all nine lines.



I've also never seen a Spin Poker game that made you bet all the lines to max bet.
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December 7th, 2015 at 6:58:32 PM permalink
I appreciate the corrections, Tringlomane. I probably shouldn't have said many, bad assumption, but it is that way at two out of three places I've looked at that game.

Poor sample size, I know, but surprised to hear such is the exception.
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December 7th, 2015 at 7:38:34 PM permalink
I may be being cynical, but sometimes winning a Royal is very bad, if you have a crowded casino and other players knowing that you just won $20,000. I remember a story where someone got mugged over a $50 win in the parking lot. I don't even want to think about a $20,000 win.
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December 7th, 2015 at 7:49:51 PM permalink
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I may be being cynical, but sometimes winning a Royal is very bad, if you have a crowded casino and other players knowing that you just won $20,000. I remember a story where someone got mugged over a $50 win in the parking lot. I don't even want to think about a $20,000 win.



Ask for a check.
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December 7th, 2015 at 8:00:15 PM permalink
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Ask for a check.



And a security guard to walk you to your room or car.
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December 7th, 2015 at 8:25:10 PM permalink
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December 7th, 2015 at 11:01:09 PM permalink
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I may be being cynical, but sometimes winning a Royal is very bad, if you have a crowded casino and other players knowing that you just won $20,000. I remember a story where someone got mugged over a $50 win in the parking lot. I don't even want to think about a $20,000 win.



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Get a room comped at the casino

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December 12th, 2015 at 2:54:22 PM permalink


Wrong time to not max bet.
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December 12th, 2015 at 4:29:54 PM permalink
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Wrong time to not max bet.



Playing down to a multiple of $5.00?
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December 12th, 2015 at 4:40:30 PM permalink
No. I actually got four 2's not long after this.
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December 12th, 2015 at 4:54:36 PM permalink
What game, DDB? Can't tell from the picture.
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