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Nareed
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August 20th, 2013 at 5:48:29 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

You just got to love all of these "the math doesn't apply to me" gamblers.



I prefer the old way: "I have a system!" It's more concise and elegant.
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EvenBob
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August 20th, 2013 at 6:13:58 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Oh, just try starting with one thing, rather than pontificating on everything.



Thats all GR8 knows how to do, pontificate.

pontificate verb: to speak in an important manner as if only your opinion was correct.

Thats what he does in every post, gets on a soapbox
and rattles on about 'his way', which is meaningless to
the rest of us. He loves the abuse we heap on him, he
keeps coming back for more, doesn't he.
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boymimbo
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August 20th, 2013 at 6:18:53 PM permalink
Once in a while my shoes smell, but I have yet to hear them talk to me. Perhaps if I don't put socks on and walk around in this warmish summer weather, mould will grow. I imagine if I put them out in sunlight there might be a chance that life will evolve to a point where the shoes will whisper to me: "Player".

Yep, I can be asinine too.
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AxelWolf
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August 20th, 2013 at 11:44:51 PM permalink
gr8player If you have a winning system, it would seem you would have work 24/7 365 and the cash would be rolling in faster then you could spend it. Why wast your time gloating here? You should be out pounding the casinos all day and hookers and blow all night.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
wroberson
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August 20th, 2013 at 11:59:03 PM permalink
I don't know. I was practicing blackjack one on one and was losing my shirt so I started dealing 3 hands and found I had better results. Then I started dealing four hand and had good results. I guess I could say I was listening to the "shoe" in a hand dealt practice game. I would rather say that while playing one on one I was losing more hands than winning and figured I'd see how 3 or 4 results fall out. I know I won't be playing one on one anymore.

The cards have spoken...
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Tanko
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August 21st, 2013 at 4:20:13 AM permalink
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gr8player
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August 21st, 2013 at 8:43:57 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I see no idiocy. Just someone asking you to accept, or otherwise a challenge that was put forward to you. You can easily deal with it. You can say "I do not accept this challenge".

Or one better, negotiate the terms of the challenge.

The fact you continue think it's 'idiocy' adds to the growing weight of information that suggests you run scared of a positive betting oppurtunity. For after all, if you expect to win in general, a 50/50 bet is advantage play.



The entire "challenge" concept is sheer idiocy; you know it, I know it, and Beethoven9th knows it.

And the very fact that an esteemed member such as yourself would respond to Beethoven9th's nonsensical persistence only serves to fuel the continuance of same.

What purpose would any so-called "challenge" serve? Would you like to see me "win a shoe" here on-line, or would you prefer I "lose a shoe"? Either way, you and I both know that it would prove to be absolutely nothing but an exercise in futility.

And, thecesspit, make no mistake of it, I do not, ever, "run scared of" what I may very well perceive as "a positive betting opportunity". On the contrary, those "positive betting opportunities" are EXACTLY WHY I CHOOSE TO PLAY BACCARAT.

Again, to me, anyway, and stated with all due respect, thecesspit; you appear as an intelligent man to me, but it appears that I cannot say the same for your judgement(s) of character.
gr8player
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August 21st, 2013 at 9:03:54 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

You just got to love all of these "the math doesn't apply to me" gamblers.



No one is denying the existence of the house's edge. It's there, alright, affecting every bet we make.

But, let's expound on that a bit, shall we, Ibeatyouraces?:

You're a Blackjack player, aren't you? A "counter", correct?

So, as a counter, you're awaiting what you deem to be a correct betting opportunity before you place a bet (or, should I say, a full-sized bet). That is your strategy in order to overcome the house edge at Balckjack, you await a betting opportunity.

Well, so do I. At Baccarat. Now, sure, I get the fact that you can counter that argument with: "But I'm betting into a mathematical advantage when I place my bet."

OK. But, while you might not be able to see it as clearly as I might, I contend that I'm doing pretty much the very same thing. I sense an opportunity, a portion of the shoe that is dispensing favorable results for me, and I pounce on it. And, to me, anyway, it's just as "mathematically sound" as your play is, if not even more so when you take into account my bet size "manipulation".

So please, Ibeatyouraces, spare me the "math doesn't apply to me" baloney.....it applies to ALL of us....you, me, all of us.

The TRUTH OF IT ALL, my friend, lies in our response to it.

Some choose to "run and hide" (and that's fine for those that deem it insurmountable); some choose to "stay and play", throwing caution to the wind; while there remain players such as myself and yourself, that carefully choose a mode of play that attempts to overcome the built-in edge.

Is your play any better than mine? Moreover, even more importantly, are your chances for long term success any greater than mine?
boymimbo
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August 21st, 2013 at 9:09:02 AM permalink
Right.

Your system basically is that if a shoe consists of say, 4 player wins and 10 banker wins, odds are in your favor that the player will catch up to banker, so you bet player, but only when the "variance" is high enough to make that bet.

Except that, in Bacarrat, like craps, like flipping a coin, it doesn't matter. Just because a shoe starts out with 6 bankers and 0 players doesn't mean that the next bet is more likely to come out "player". The hands have already been played. I know you feel better because cards have been played and therefore the cards that are left must give you a different result. But in Bacarrat, it's the order of the cards that matter, and not the content.

Thousands of players have felt the same way and have done the same thing using the same system and have failed... which is why Bacarrat continues to be a very profitable game for the casino.

But that's okay.
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gr8player
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August 21st, 2013 at 9:14:11 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

gr8player If you have a winning system, it would seem you would have work 24/7 365 and the cash would be rolling in faster then you could spend it. Why wast your time gloating here? You should be out pounding the casinos all day and hookers and blow all night.



Grow up, AxelWolf, will you?

I am a responsible family man, and, as such, I choose to work a full-time job.

Gloating? If that's the way you perceive my posts, then I can only apologize, my friend. My intention is to dispense valuable insights and observations based upon my vast experience at this game, and impart some viable playing strategies along the way. No gloating intended, just zeal and passion for this most challenging of games....Baccarat. I could see where one might mistake all of that for gloating, however; hence, the reason for my apology. I hope that clears things up a bit for you.

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