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DMSCR
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June 22nd, 2013 at 9:10:48 PM permalink
Oh... he's baaaaaaaack. Looks like Johno's site has lost its luster and needs the attention to draw in the gullible. Another BF in the making perhaps?

gr8, Looks like he can never get enough of you and follows you around like a lost puppy.

On a much more interesting note, Steve Wynn just won phase one of building his casino in Everett, MA. A 86% resident approval. Now hopefully he wins phase two and gets the license to do so. Everett looks more welcoming than what he faced at Foxborough. If Wynn gets the license this would put Everett on the map. Plus maybe I wouldn't have to drag myself to Vegas so much. http://www.wynnineverett.com/

This also goes for his Philly project too yet not as welcoming as in Everett. http://wynnphiladelphia.com/
egalite
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June 23rd, 2013 at 6:19:34 AM permalink
Perhaps if you opened your eyes instead of your beak and took a look at the joined date!

In 2013 Gambling forums are old hat, most if not all boards are on their knees. Being a prominent poster on gambling forum doesn't exactly bring home the bacon, nor does it count for much in the grand scheme things. Nowadays I prefer to let my action do the talking, however it is good to unwind occasionally, one needs an out-let for the pent up pressure of 5 hours of built up serotonin.

I did find it rather amusing to think you spent three sessions worth of profit on a LA hooker.
DMSCR
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June 23rd, 2013 at 3:36:28 PM permalink
Quote: Always Bleeding Chips

I did find it rather amusing to think you spent three sessions worth of profit on a LA hooker.



And you are actually gullible and naive enough to believe that. Then I have a bridge to sell you. Now if I did spend that money on a hooker that is still more than what you will ever make at the tables with your Nostradamus tealeaves binary tables. That is even if you play at all. ROFL.


Quote: Always Bleeding Chips

Nowadays I prefer to let my action do the talking, however it is good to unwind occasionally, one needs an out-let for the pent up pressure of 5 hours of built up serotonin.



In other words you lost big. Again as always. And now you go to internet sites hoping to milk off and leech off other people's work (Killer's "system") since folks finally saw through your fluff and leaving your board in droves. If that doesn't work you just go online and stalk someone and then leave threatening messages on their voice mail. LOL. +900 units win my ass. More like -900 units and you have to sell shirts on eBay or go silver coin collecting to buy stale expired cat food to feed yourself.


Quote: Always Bleeding Chips

most if not all boards are on their knees.



Just because your board sucks and bleeding members doesn't mean all boards are. Many poker sites for instance have great information and a few members who are great in dispelling the importance of mental game techniques. One of them wrote a book or two that are must reads whether you are a poker player or not since the strategies can be applied to other things beyond card games. I have seen your Real World Casino Action and it is mostly you yapping nothing but mental fart. That was why I left so quick then you turned on yours truly because I am smart enough to realize your site as you would call it.... WAFFLE.



Okay I am done. Said my piece or else this stalker is going continue his usual drivel since his therapist is avoiding him and the meds are not working for him anymore.
varmenti
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October 1st, 2013 at 10:48:41 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Hello all. I just happened upon this open forum, and decided to join it, as I'm familiar with Wiz's other site and always found it both repectful and enlightening. And, in my brief perusal here, this appears similar.

By way of introduction, I'm a confirmed Baccarat "trender", and I've previously posted, rather extensively, at both the Glen and Baccarat Forum sites.

While I've seen both a Blackjack and Craps section here, I've seen no Baccarat section, and I can't help but wonder why, seeing as how there's probably 5 tables of Baccarat to every single table of Craps at most AC and CT joints.

Anyhow, here's a request for a new Baccarat section, all in the hopes that those that are interested might be a bit more inclined to discuss the(ir) game here in this forum if there existed a dedicated section.

Sidenote: Yes, I am fully aware of the Wiz's stance on "trending", and it's viability (or, should I say, lack thereof) as it pertains to games of chance. I trust, however, that he wouldn't object to anyone discussing their personal beliefs and/or experiences regarding same.

I look forward to some open discussions.



I agree, there should be a Category for Baccarat as the forum grows, so do members and Thread topics.

ADMIN: Make another Category and Call it BACCARAT Please.
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:08:22 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

I'm currently running through RNG's in 8 deck Baccarat on the Wizards site. I'm nearly half way through 1000 decks nearly 40,000 hands. Yeah, no life. My first observation is that Baccarat doesn't kick out as many runs or at least the runs seem to be shorter. Just an observation. Longest player/banker streak 10. In Roulette at 40,000 spins you could expect to see 10 plus runs of 15 or more. I'll crack the game by dinner.



In response to this, I would recommend REstarting your Experiment.

Baccarat is one of the Best Casino Games as far as Runs / Streaks are concerned. Just last month alone there was at least 10 tables here that had a run of 12-13 Bankers (10 out of approx 250 shoes dealt) (Unofficial) as far as I can see in my perspective.

Also out of that 250 shoes I've also seen over the last couple months, approx 70-75 shoes having runs of 8,9 and 10 (Unofficial)

here is a math question.

* 13 tables x approx 1hr per shoe = 13 x 24hrs = 312 shoes dealt per day
* each 6 hrs/Session I see at least 2 tables running a streak of 10 x 4 = 8 streaks of 10 per day.
* each 6 hrs/Session I see at least 6 tables running a streak of 8 x 4 = 32 streaks of 8 per day.
* each 6 hrs/Session I see at least 10 tables running a streak of 6 every hour x 24hrs = 144 streaks of 6 per day.
* all the other tables from 312 shoes dealt per day are Crap, but still are profitable on the short runs.

Hope this info can provide some insight to the Game of Baccarat.
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:26:41 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Mission146, thank you for taking both the time and the interest to respond. Much appeciated.

That said, as quoted herein, the disdain 'round here for anything "trending" or even "Baccarat" itself is blatantly obvious. Sorta leaves a serious player such as myself on the "outside looking in" at this forum. But that's my concern, Mission146, not yours. Again, thanks for your response.



Attention to Wizard, Mission146, or other admins, Please create a Category for Baccarat and also a Category for Sic Bo. (Sic Bo is Craps, Roulette, Big Six, and many other casino games all wrapped up into one game)
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:31:07 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

Quote: treetopbuddy

Quote: DMSCR

What I am afraid of about baccarat is not my method(s) going stale and I have been defeated by the game and I have to close shop (knock on wood). What I am truly afraid of is baccarat becoming games like black jack and poker. When the game has become efficient. I mean by this is that some Thorp-like genius comes in and opens his/her trap and ruins the game for everyone. For the moment drop by your local Barnes & Noble and head to the gaming section. You see tons and tons of books on black jack and poker. I know many of these books are fluff but there are many that are worthy of the paper they are written on. Like the famous Beat the Dealer for black jack or The Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler. These great books have truly given the player the edge to extract money at the tables. I don't want this to happen to baccarat at all. I want this game to remain elusive for the masses where not many people would be jumping into this. For those that do I want them to be naive and be possessed by their own greed, fear and hope without the willing effort to put in the work to keep the illusion going so the casinos would not have to adjust and adapt new ways to make it hard to extract chips from the table to my pockets.

well, you won't have to worry about me spilling the beans



Well if you do find out something that works and you are consistently profitable, keep your mouth shut! And just go on your stealth mode and extract your chips and disappear. Rinse and repeat. LOL.



Hey man, Everyone has their own unique style of playing and the Casino's have ton's of cash that will never run out. If you have a cool moneymaking technique, Share it, don't be so greedy... :P
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:35:53 PM permalink
Quote: teamswindler

gr8player -

I have a question for you. My local casinos are now offering no commission no collection baccarat. The only caveat is when the banker gets a third card and totals 7, then its a push for the banker instead of a win.

So my question is, if i were to continuously bet 1 unit on each side and continue to bet 1 unit on the losing side, but on the winning side progress positively using the 1324 method and returning back to 1 unit after the 4th win, is it possible to grind out a victory. The plan is to quit once i am up 5 units.

In other words, if the player wins 4 in a row, it would profit 10 units while losing 4 units on the banker side at the same time, thus netting 6 units. So it seems that if EITHER side has a nice run, then I should come out positive. A loss would occur if one either side only wins 2 in a row.


Curious of your thoughts.



I don't mean to interrupt you but from hearing what you say.... Ride the wave man, that is good stuff to hear. I'm gonna plan a trip to that casino. pm me address and I'll play there. no commission no collection baccarat. Yeah Baby, I'll play that 4-6 hrs per day.
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:40:40 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

I'd scrap the "Target Method" as well, if I were you. Those "huge spreads" are much too huge, IMHO. Huge spreads mean that even when you make some money, you're making a minimal amount, but when you lose...KABLAM! Ditch it, my friend.

As you "play around with my progression", bear in mind that with mine or any negative progression, a potentially larger-than-normal loss could arise if you fail to use caution. Like:

I remain at any level if I lost that level by only 3W vs 4L, or, in other words, a minus 1 (-1). Only if I lost that level with a -3 or a -5 or a -7 will I move up to the next level in my progression.

I also will revert back down to the prior level as I recoup that last lost level. So, say I'm that I'm down 9 units, losing 3 at level 1 and 3 at level two, I will go to level 3, but as soon as I am a +2 at level 3, which recouped my -3 from level 2, I will immediately revert back to level 2 to recoup the remaining 3 units from level 1. Like this:

-1 +1 -1 -1 -1 +1 -1 = -3

-2 +2 -2 -2 -2 -2 +2 = -6

-3 +3 +3 +3 = +6...now the loss from level 2 has been recouped, so revert back to level 2 to recoup that -3 from level 1.

Again, TTB, all just a matter of common sense.

And, one last thing, if I find myself living a bit too much (read: too often) in "3-ville" (read: level 3) or higher, I'd seek a new bet selection process. The current strike rate just isn't good enough for this progression and you're playing with fire in that case.

Take care.....



Wow! there is alot of -minus signs in this post. Whatever happened to just positive progressive betting like back in the good old days?
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October 2nd, 2013 at 10:13:00 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Wow! there is alot of -minus signs in this post. Whatever happened to just positive progressive betting like back in the good old days?



Hello, Varmenti.

The reason for the "lots of minus signs" in my posted example was because I was attempting to illustrate how one would navigate through the various levels of my "Gr8Player's Progression".

It is, IMHO, a rather effective progression, given its very nature as a slight negative progression. Combined with a decent bet selection process, one could do rather well with it, either on a linear level or a session-to-session level, or both.

As to your "positive progression" comment, Varmenti, it's really "six of one and a half dozen of the other". In other words, same difference. You see, my friend, every progression, be it of the positive or negative variety, will yield the same results over the long term, simply by calculating your average bet size within said progression. It all boils down to that ABS calculation.

Where the difference really matters is more of a personal nature....each player has their own playing style and comfort level. Both bet selection- and money management-wise. So one would be best served to seek out the sort of MM plan that suits their play best; one that gets them to their desired goals as efficiently as possible. Over the long term. We are always best served to remember that each session's results become less and less imperative as we look at our Baccarat play with that much broader long term view. Then build your plans around that.

Stay well, my friend.

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