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gr8player
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October 22nd, 2013 at 1:43:43 PM permalink
I see. Well, whatever works best for your style of play....

I couldn't play 6 shoes, not anymore, anyhow.

If I can't find what I'm looking for in a couple of shoes, I'll await next session.

You see, Soxster, I look at the decisions a bit differently than most. I count every decision, no matter that I placed a bet or not. Every decision counts, for me and my stats.

That all said, I am pleased to read of your continued success, Soxster, and I wish its continuance.

Stay well, my friend.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:07:58 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Ok, Buzz, OK, you had your one humorous line. Now you're pushin' to rival the Beethoven9th monotony/insanity...


Now why ya gotta go pickin' on your student like that?
If ya wanna accuse him of monotony/insanity, probably best to remember his teacher. He had to learn it from someone; unfortunately for you, he learned it from the "greatest".
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:24:56 PM permalink
Quote: rob45

Now why ya gotta go pickin' on your student like that?
If ya wanna accuse him of monotony/insanity, probably best to remember his teacher. He had to learn it from someone; unfortunately for you, he learned it from the "greatest".

+1

My teacher broke the forum rules by calling a forum member an "idiot"!!
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:31:55 PM permalink
Playing as I do, seeking out "preferred trends", is sorta like shopping in a store to me....

....I'll browse the aisles, and if I can't find what I'm looking for, I'm outta there. With my dollars safely tucked away in my pocket.

Same mentality works for me at the tables.

I prefer trends that will, when they appear, "clump wins together". Why? Because I utilize a positive progression (read: parlays) that works best when wins are coming in "clusters".

So the trends I prefer are those sorts of "clustering" trends. And, with use of a positive progression, I can be wrong even more often than I'm right, and I'll STILL come out on top.

If, however, those trends appear "sleeping", then I'll simply "no-bet" until they appear to "awake".....

Then, of course, I'll mix in my "session progression" (read: if my variance dips at last session, I'll adjust my bets a bit higher for efficient recoup and profit) and, "voila"......perfection.

But that all takes patience, and it all takes discipline, and it all takes a suitable bankroll, and it all takes a long-term vision of the game and your participation in it........

.....ahhhh, the heck with that fellas, right? That all sounds too much like work, right? Better to attempt to belittle me and my approaches....now that's more the speed for most of the fellas 'round here, right?

Shame, really.

You're the guys that are the losers in this bargain, believe that.
gr8player
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:37:23 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

My teacher broke the forum rules by calling a forum member an "idiot"!!



Are you serious, Beethoven9th!!??

You tag every one of my posts with utter nonsense, all aimed at disruption, and you're squealing that I called it as I see it!!??

Get over yourself, man.....
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:49:47 PM permalink
Is there, seriously, anyone that really plays in a real casino, with their real money?

Seriously, is there?

Does anyone here play Baccarat?

If so, do you already play perfectly? Is that it? No one here in this forum needs to better their Bac game, because everyone is sitting on perfection?

In that case, you're all better than me, my friends. I am forever seeking to better my game. Hence, my arrival here.

But you guys see what I'm stuck with 'round here, right?

Very frustrating, my friends, very frustrating.
rob45
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:54:21 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

You, my friend, are an idiot.

And you're disruptive to any real conversation....how you, and those that are similar to you in this forum, are allowed your "free reigns" to post whatever you please is totally beyond any rationale....

Is "real conversation" subjective?
Beethoven9th
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October 22nd, 2013 at 2:57:01 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Are you serious, Beethoven9th!!??


Yes, teacher, I am very, very, very, very, very SERIOUS!

Some people have claimed that you are a math denier! (Similar to a Holocaust denier!)
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:06:20 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Is there, seriously, anyone that really plays in a real casino, with their real money?

Seriously, is there?

Does anyone here play Baccarat?

If so, do you already play perfectly? Is that it? No one here in this forum needs to better their Bac game, because everyone is sitting on perfection?

Yes, I play perfectly. Banker every fourth hand.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:09:27 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Some people have claimed that you are a math denier! (Similar to a Holocaust denier!)



Beethoven9th, if I may, on a serious note....

We are posting in a gaming forum on the internet. I suppose, all (or almost all) appears as acceptable behavior. OK. I'm fine with that.

But your reference to my being a "Holocaust denier" is over the line, by anyone's stretch of the imagination.

And it's not me that I'm necessarily seeking to defend here.

It's those that gave their lives, or their families lives, in the wake of the most hideous and tragic calamity of the 20th century, that I wish to respect. And I wish you to show that same respect.

Let's drop the Holocaust references, Beethoven9th, regardless of my opinions on any mathematics.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:14:37 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Yes, I play perfectly. Banker every fourth hand.



Good job, teddys!

But still, my friend, not perfect:

It'd work much better if you see two red Jacks before betting....
....or, wait, that might be.....it'd work better if you took two shots of Jack before betting.....sorry, but I'm sure it's one or the other.

Hope that helps.....
Beethoven9th
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:16:01 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

But your reference to my being a "Holocaust denier" is over the line, by anyone's stretch of the imagination.


I didn't refer to you in any such way, teacher. But since you are the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat, I will apologize for offending you.

So let me use a different analogy:

Denying basic math is like denying that the world is round. (It's actually worse.) Anybody who wants to deny basic math should belong to the Flat GR8 Earth Society!
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gr8player
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:22:30 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I didn't refer to you in any such way, teacher. But since you are the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat, I will apologize for offending you.

So let me use a different analogy:

Denying basic math is like denying that the world is round. (It's actually worse.) Anybody who wants to deny basic math should belong to the Flat GR8 Earth Society!



Much better, Beethoven9th.

We're enjoying an internet forum, but it ceases being enjoyable when referencing horrific personal tragedies.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:33:20 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Much better, Beethoven9th.

We're enjoying an internet forum, but it ceases being enjoyable when referencing horrific personal tragedies.


Now can you apologize for calling me an idiot, teacher??
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:33:21 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

key word " active " Passive income supports bac hobby ?




My average profit per shoe is just under ten units, gross profits. And over the years I have put much of my bac winnings into income producing real estate and other vehicles that generate a passive income stream, hey hey.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:34:45 PM permalink
Quote: rob45

Is "real conversation" subjective?



Hello, rob45.

To answer your question:

Yes, I suppose "real conversation" is a rather subjective opinion.

I think, however, that's why they invented the mouse. So that those that might not find the conversation "real" enough for their own personal taste, can click that mouse and exit the posted verbiage.

Or, forgoing that, they can seek to disrupt the discussion and, even worse, attack those that wish to carry the discussion.

Amazing what lies within a click of the mouse.....
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:35:24 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

You, my friend, are an idiot.


Isn't this worthy of a suspension?
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:36:59 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Now can you apologize for calling me an idiot, teacher??



Yes. I'm sorry if you felt offended, as I always seek to be respectful of everyone's positions and feelings.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:40:29 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Is there, seriously, anyone that really plays in a real casino, with their real money?

Seriously, is there?

Does anyone here play Baccarat?

If so, do you already play perfectly? Is that it? No one here in this forum needs to better their Bac game, because everyone is sitting on perfection?

In that case, you're all better than me, my friends. I am forever seeking to better my game. Hence, my arrival here.

But you guys see what I'm stuck with 'round here, right?

Very frustrating, my friends, very frustrating.

Wait....you said, you had to many BAC friends all ready and nothing to prove. Why do you keep cumming around here? You claim to have limited computer time yet, you spend day after day on this message forum going on about nothing.(how convenient) You have more nonsense excuses then a teenager in heat.You avoid every possible opportunitie you get to prove anything you say, like the plague. Give us something 1 bit of proof of anything. Dam at least Varm stepped up to the plate. If he would have done that sooner, he wouldn't be banned now.
Edit I I quoted the wrong post, I was trying to quote the one where you claim to have limited computer time and why you keep going on about BAC.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:40:48 PM permalink
Wow, gr8player is turning into a bully who calls people "idiots".
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October 22nd, 2013 at 3:47:16 PM permalink
" My average profit per shoe is just under ten units, gross profits. "

And yet you do not list owning a casino in your portfolio ?

Time to raise your unit amount, I dare say.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 4:15:40 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

I play bac, fulltime, five days per week, 48 weeks per year, and the income I derive from bac is my only form of active income. But, in a year's worth of fulltime play I only buck up against about 36000 decisions. A mathite once told me the "long run" is about ten million decisons, so I just need to play bac fulltime for about 300 more years before the "long run" catches up to me, hey hey.

Another "Walter Mitty" pollutes the WOV, deluded clown and friend of GR8, another world beater at the Baccarat tables, because everything posted on the internet is true.

Really funny that a genetic deficient who claims to play five days per week, couldn't ever post a single shoe, trip report or give any indication that they even ventured within 5 miles of any casino when begrudgingly they had access to my forum, alas all members ever got was the mind numbing retarded "hey hey" from a 60+ two sticks short of a pole deluded housebound geriatric. .

Already the limp wrist excuses are enumerating from the furniture seller, how the heck would GR8 ever play a shoe, when over the years he has never even posted a single shoe despite the many requests.

As with some comment above, when you are good, you don't work for a grand per week, when you can rake a grand per day from the tables, unlike the vast amount of hot air that unfortunately is getting blown around this forum, I do play professionally, I don't hide behind a computer screen. I'm spanking Adelaide until the end of the month, then hitting Jupiters on the Gold Coast.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 4:26:22 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

You, my friend, are an idiot.

I'm still devastated that the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat called me an "idiot". Why are you "allowed your 'free reigns' to post whatever you please", teacher??


Quote: egalite

Really funny that a genetic deficient who claims to play five days per week, couldn't ever post a single shoe, trip report or give any indication that they even ventured within 5 miles of any casino when begrudgingly they had access to my forum, alas all members ever got was the mind numbing retarded "hey hey" from a 60+ two sticks short of a pole deluded housebound geriatric.

Doesn't gr8player play bac with a partner? I thought he had said that in the past somewhere on GG.

There was another bac guy here who also said that he plays with a partner. Wonder if he knows gr8?
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October 22nd, 2013 at 4:39:33 PM permalink
Which is a better title: "Desperately Seeking Baccarat" or "Desperately Seeking Attention"?
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October 22nd, 2013 at 4:45:37 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Is there, seriously, anyone that really plays in a real casino, with their real money?


You've asked this previously, and we've answered previously.

Yes! I seriously, really do play in a real casino! Many casinos!
Unfortunately, I am not allowed to play with real money, as the casinos I frequent force me to play with these little composite disks they call "cheques".



One time, during a night out with some particularly well-heeled associates, I noticed that the casino gave them these little rectangle thingies that were called "plaques". I was extremely envious, as I was forced to play with my little round cheques at a different table. Furthermore, it irritated me that I paid cash for my little round cheques, and they got their rectangle thingies by signing a piece of paper!

At least I was in the same room, and I got to experience the same tension in the air that my associates were surely feeling.

I was worried about not playing with real money, and was beginning to believe that I had fallen into that age-old trap of plunking down hard-earned cash for some worthless objects; however, the casino assured me that I could exchange my cheques for real money whenever I was done playing.

The table on which I was playing had three dealers, and I was absolutely bewildered by their reaction whenever, upon the doubling of my amount of cheques, I gave them one of my seemingly worthless little round cheques. They treated the thing as if it were real money!

Lo and behold, whenever I was done playing, the dealer on my side of the table instructed me to see this lady called a cashier, and I could get real money for my cheques. He didn't lie! She gave me real money!
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October 22nd, 2013 at 5:11:09 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

Another "Walter Mitty" pollutes the WOV, deluded clown and friend of GR8, another world beater at the Baccarat tables, because everything posted on the internet is true.

Really funny that a genetic deficient who claims to play five days per week, couldn't ever post a single shoe, trip report or give any indication that they even ventured within 5 miles of any casino when begrudgingly they had access to my forum, alas all members ever got was the mind numbing retarded "hey hey" from a 60+ two sticks short of a pole deluded housebound geriatric. .

Already the limp wrist excuses are enumerating from the furniture seller, how the heck would GR8 ever play a shoe, when over the years he has never even posted a single shoe despite the many requests.

As with some comment above, when you are good, you don't work for a grand per week, when you can rake a grand per day from the tables, unlike the vast amount of hot air that unfortunately is getting blown around this forum, I do play professionally, I don't hide behind a computer screen hiding, I'm spanking Adelaide until the end of the month, then hitting Jupiters on the Gold Coast.



And right on time, john-O the clown chimes in. Your forum was a joke, just like you. Previously you didn't even have the bottle to use a short leash marty and now yer makin 2500$ bets? And how is that super "safe" labby workin out for ya, the one that cost you a 230+ units downdraw? Yer so full of shit, you should be writing obongo's speeches, hey hey.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 7:19:38 PM permalink
Congrats to GR8, he just got whacked for 14 days
for calling Beethoven a bad name. Time for him and
Gr8Varmenti to relax.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/
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October 23rd, 2013 at 12:01:34 AM permalink
Jackshit. C'mon out and live in the real world. Put your argument to the real test. Give up your day job. C'mon out asshole. Don't talk about it. Do it!!!!! Get off your lazy ass. Prove it for the humans beings. You candy asses talk a good game, but do you have game? Git your punk ass out here, Gr8. Get your punk ass out here, vermanti. You two punks are hiding behind your jobs. C'mon out and play, bitches. You two little assholes ain't nothing but jerkoffs. Put it up bitches. Quit your jobs and git out here and do it, jerkoffs.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 12:09:52 AM permalink
Gr8, if you don't quit your job and back up what the hell you say, then you are a goddam coward.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 12:30:39 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Good job, teddys!

But still, my friend, not perfect:

It'd work much better if you see two red Jacks before betting....
....or, wait, that might be.....it'd work better if you took two shots of Jack before betting.....sorry, but I'm sure it's one or the other.

Hope that helps.....



Gr8, while you are sucking your employer's dick, tell him how much you love sucking his dick.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 4:25:14 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Congrats to GR8, he just got whacked for 14 days


Didn't he once claim that there are a bunch of forums that want him as a moderator?? Somehow I doubt that...
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October 23rd, 2013 at 6:48:41 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Didn't he once claim that there are a bunch of forums that want him as a moderator?? Somehow I doubt that...



Well, someone else made a whole thread about how easy it is to make your own forum...:)
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October 23rd, 2013 at 7:02:30 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

Gr8, while you are sucking your employer's dick, tell him how much you love sucking his dick.


Very unfortunate for Gr8, but it's nice that you've found success and fulfillment in life as a pro gambler.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 9:26:22 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Didn't he once claim that there are a bunch of forums that want him as a moderator?? Somehow I doubt that...

I don't know about that, but he once claimed somebody approached him to write a book about Baccarat. Imagine a book consisting of 400 pages of jibberish, "dom" this and "new top" that.

Soxfan, I couldn't wait to give you the boot, I tolerated your daily visits and lack of anything (exception the abundance of hey hey's) for far too long, too thick to realise when their access was restricted, too dumb to do anything about it (hey hey hey hey hey hey hey). My dual Lab's pairs are performing wonderful, no worries about dropping the 240 base units a long time ago, the bulk of which was recouped, turning 100 units into 27,000 in the last 5 weeks kinda glosses over that (I can be cheap and post a snapshot of the wads of Aussi 100 bills paper-cliped, chips brought home to avoid being reported to the Government for cashing in more than 10k.

There is a major difference between these Walter Mitty's and myself, I showed the evidence, I have stated where I am currently playing and where I will be next week, nothing to hide, nothing to run away from.

Quote: GR8 Walter Mitty

Which leads us to your "was playing $500 units" and "placed a few 2500 bets without flinching" statements....

As you know, I'm an avid and astute Bac player with years of experience under my belt, Egalite.

"$500 units"...purple chip
"2500 bets"...either 2 pumpkins and purp, or 5 purps

That's some "heavy wood", my friend, by anyone's standards.

So, drawdowns....how might they affect a player betting with your stated increments?
How huge must your session buy-in amount be in order to support betting your stated increments?
Oh, and lastly...just who are to trying to impress and, even worse, bulls*it???

You accuse me of having a "hey look at me" attitude within my postings.....
.....well, you just surpassed the totality of all of my posts within those two quoted and obviously fictional betting increments.

Oh, unless you'd have us believe that your session bankroll surpasses $50,000....GTFOH....tell your "fishing stories" walkin'....

Don't act totally stupid, I am a VIP status player, sit at tables with high rollers betting 50k per hand (yellow banana's we call them, the chips that is), the yanky slang doesn't apply in my domain. Was a few hours ago sharing a VIP table with one of the most confident Baccarat players I ever witnessed, a Vietnamese woman and husband, who for the third time picked up $50K in one shoe, she even paid me to take off my opposing bet which was small fry to the yellows she had out, I've rarely seen somebody win so many hands, I was still there when she came back and took another 40k in a few hands. Then there is the crazy reputed billionaire who we all witness drop a few hundred thou' more or less daily, without a care in the world.

It's interesting to watch the stupidity in a Baccarat room, the no-life socialites who just walk around looking at score boards. If you move around the high roller areas you would realise betting blacks is nothing special, the biggest recorded bet in NZ is $117k, surpassed this week where I frequent and a junket visitor was betting $200k table max per hand. That was all the casino would risk, in a private room.

Any-way let's cut to the chase, back in the day, I got curious reading week in and week out your sermons on GG, feeling so proud about making 5.0025 units per trip after tax, so I asked you privately how big your betting size was, after all 5u could be 5 large for al we knew. When you did response and it was disappointing to discover I had communicated with anther internet fruit loop, when you told me it was $10 units. Since that embarrassing slip, along with posting on a public forum of all places you dropped a quarter of a zillion green-backs. You have desperately sought attention for some unknown reason by posting on various forums you bet $400 per hand, this was later downgraded to $200 per hand and has been dropping ever since (you already know I can reproduce the your posts if you dispute me). Incidentally having thousands of posts on various gambling forums should not be seen as a badge of honour, more so in your case.

Various posters have requested to share a game with you over the years, each time you decline, one can construe you have a lot to hide. Board members ask you to post a shoe which you played and the limp wrist excuses such as you no longer take them home, yet a week later you post, you review your score cards for any bad session while around the kitchen table. You are nothing but full contradictions.

Incidentally you have no idea how I play, my bet or MM strategy, I generally don't need more than 20 units of whatever level I'm playing. I'm now on my 17th consecutive winning session. The last time I "gave in" it cost me 6 GR8 units $60, I was too fatigued to go after it, it had been a hard grind to that point, so me and a "real world" friend (i.e somebody who's lips actually move when having a conversation) decided to quit, took a leaf out of your book.

Cheerio I'll leave you to it, you seem to be winning everybody over on this board and making loads of new friends, congenial as it is.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 10:35:59 AM permalink
Something makes me think Mickey was drinking again.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 2:50:47 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

I don't know about that, but he once claimed somebody approached him to write a book about Baccarat.

Gr8player? Approached to write a book on baccarat??? LOL!

I can just imagine the book right now. It would be longer than War & Peace, but would have as much substance as Beavis & Butthead!



Quote: On 10/2, gr8player claimed:

In every single forum that I've ever joined, with only one exception, I was asked to become a Moderator for the forum.

Shame on this forum for an outright misjudgment in so very many ways....

LOL!!!! Yeah, right!
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October 23rd, 2013 at 3:04:56 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th


Quote: On 10/2, gr8player claimed:

In every single forum that I've ever joined, with only one exception, I was asked to become a Moderator for the forum.

Shame on this forum for an outright misjudgment in so very many ways....

LOL!!!! Yeah, right!



Well now, hold on...that COULD be a true statement. Do we have evidence that he's joined more than one other forum?
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October 23rd, 2013 at 3:41:27 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Well now, hold on...that COULD be a true statement. Do we have evidence that he's joined more than one other forum?


Touché! :D
Fighting BS one post at a time!
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October 23rd, 2013 at 3:58:40 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Gr8player? Approached to write a book on baccarat??? LOL!

I can just imagine the book right now. It would be longer than War & Peace, but would have as much substance as Beavis & Butthead!
!



Maybe it was the pitboss who wants to piggyback
GR8's bets. I'm still laughing about that one.. Almost
as funny as Varmenti knowing Donald Trump.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 4:41:41 PM permalink
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October 23rd, 2013 at 4:53:36 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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October 23rd, 2013 at 5:16:30 PM permalink
For the life of me.... i cant understand why Mickey got suspended
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 23rd, 2013 at 5:22:13 PM permalink
We know Pierce knows how to nuke an individual
post now, and he chose to leave Mickey's there.
Especially the last one, that's my fave..
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October 23rd, 2013 at 5:28:10 PM permalink
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, so I asked you privately how big your betting size was, after all 5u could be 5 large for al we knew. When you did response and it was disappointing to discover I had communicated with anther internet fruit loop, when you told me it was $10 units. Since that embarrassing slip.

AHHHHHH! I get it now. It is all starting to make perfect sense. As I predicted, before knowing about this embarrassing faux pas.

egalite I would love for you to send me a copy of that Email. I may have just found a worthy tag line.

Gro8player, so this is why you wont let anyone watch you play BAC or you won't send any evidence. How can the 2nd greatest BAC player in the world make such outrageous claims when only betting 10 buck once a shoe.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 23rd, 2013 at 6:31:34 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

AHHHHHH! I get it now. It is all starting to make perfect sense. As I predicted, before knowing about this embarrassing faux pas.

egalite I would love for you to send me a copy of that Email. I may have just found a worthy tag line.

Gro8player, so this is why you wont let anyone watch you play BAC or you won't send any evidence. How can the 2nd greatest BAC player in the world make such outrageous claims when only betting 10 buck once a shoe.

Now this is were the problem lies, and GR8 makes a lot of mileage out of it all.

I swear to God this is the honest truth. GR8 used to bang on week on and week out about winning less than 10 units per trip. It was a friend of mine who said who's this guy (swanduck), making so few units. I said we don't know how big those units are. so ask him in an email. When he responded $10, I realised he was crazy, and unfortunately I deleted the email and didn't want any further contact.

It's not my business how much people bet and forgot about it. Then as time moves on, he starts attacking most of my posts, further more starts claiming to betting $400 per hand. Yes you guessed it, what would I give to still have a copy of that email. So I doctored an older email from him, and got the dates wrong.

Since then, he has capitalised on that fact. When somebody is continually pushing your buttons and you no longer have the evidence, there becomes a point, yes, I tried to reproduce it and I own up to it. However I put my hand on my heart and swear on my bankroll (the most precious thing to me), he stated he bet $10 per hand. Now this was many years ago, what he bets now, maybe $25 who knows who cares. However when you read claims of betting $200, $400 which probably are not true and at the same time that person is rattling your cage, well you generally bite back. Unfortunately for me it back-fired and simply provided more ammunition for Robert to discredit me.

Then another poster "ND" suggested driving to AC from NYC, toll charges, expenses etc, the trip wouldn't be worth it for less than $100. Basically ND provided the reasoning which GR8 has used ever since.

The whole thing is farcical, executive manager who needs to be on call, furniture sales person, has to be in the shop every Saturday, it sounds like something the fictional writer "redman" would conjure up.

Over the years I have tried to recover that email, I have a few MMF archives, it could be in there, yet have not been successful (I need a PC with ie6 installed on it. Then again, the whole thing is not worth my time and effort, I've more productive things to be getting on with.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 6:42:34 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

Now this is were the problem lies, and GR8 makes a lot of mileage out of it all.

I swear to God this is the honest truth. GR8 used to bang on week on and week out about winning less than 10 units per trip. It was a friend of mine who said who's this guy (swanduck), making so few units. I said we don't know how big those units are. so ask him in an email. When he responded $10, I realised he was crazy, and unfortunately I deleted the email and didn't want any further contact.

It's not my business how much people bet and forgot about it. Then as time moves on, he starts attacking most of my posts, further more starts claiming to betting $400 per hand. Yes you guessed it, what would I give to still have a copy of that email. So I doctored an older email from him, and got the dates wrong.

Since then, he has capitalised on that fact. When somebody is continually pushing your buttons and you no longer have the evidence, there becomes a point, yes, I tried to reproduce it and I own up to it. However I put my hand on my heart and swear on my bankroll (the most precious thing to me), he stated he bet $10 per hand. Now this was many years ago, what he bets now, maybe $25 who knows who cares. However when you read claims of betting $200, $400 which probably are not true and at the same time that person is rattling your cage, well you generally bite back. Unfortunately for me it back-fired and simply provided more ammunition for Robert to discredit me.

Then another poster "ND" suggested driving to AC from NYC, toll charges, expenses etc, the trip wouldn't be worth it for less than $100. Basically ND provided the reasoning which GR8 has used ever since.

The whole thing is farcical, executive manager who needs to be on call, furniture sales person, has to be in the shop every Saturday, it sounds like something the fictional writer "redman" would conjure up.

Over the years I have tried to recover that email, I have a few MMF archives, it could be in there, yet have not been successful (I need a PC with ie6 installed on it. Then again, the whole thing is not worth my time and effort, I've more productive things to be getting on with.



I've never really paid attention to bacc table limits in AC. Usually, they're the same as PGP, which would be $25 at most shops. Where is GR8 finding a $10 game?
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October 23rd, 2013 at 6:49:53 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

However I put my hand on my heart and swear on my bankroll (the most precious thing to me), he stated he bet $10 per hand. .



He said he bet $10 a hand on GG, didn't he? I
certainly remember it.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 8:42:56 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I've never really paid attention to bacc table limits in AC. Usually, they're the same as PGP, which would be $25 at most shops. Where is GR8 finding a $10 game?

I think I've read you can or could have found $10 tables if you look hard enough and this is going back a many years. When it comes down to it, I don't care, it matters nothing, absolutely nothing to me. I only bring it up, solely to highlight one of many contradictions this guy posts, he seems to make it his business to zone in disparagingly on what I used to post on the GG site. . I don't dispute he doesn't play, because he has posted about losses, yet feel he definitely has something to hide. Once he stated he lost 27 units, 27 X 400 = 10,800, or 27 x 200 = 5,400 a decent enough hit for a 9 -5 self professed executive manager who can't choose not to work Saturday mornings.

The fact that a middle aged man, craves, seeks, needs all of this rather than raking it at the tables, rallying other members like a school kid for moral support, is the bigger picture. Some may feel the same about me, fair do's (been there done that myself), but at least I progressed. All I need to do now is rise above this latest episode, focus on what gambling is all about which is taking money out of the casinos. It doesn't help sitting at the tables, with what you have read on the internet a few hours prior going through your head, I am doing rather well at the moment, I don't need to invite negativity, as many of the seasoned players on this board will fully understand.

Peace, I'm out of here.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 8:48:49 PM permalink
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He said he bet $10 a hand on GG, didn't he? I certainly remember it.

Had he not stated he bet $10 per hand, I would not have deleted the email, obviously I didn't respond and say, hey your nuts. I simply deleted the email and never contacted him again and left it at that. It was only when he decided to start badgering me and claiming to bet $400 per hand, did it all kick off. He could be betting 2 units @ 20, I've no idea, neither do I care.

If he wins or loses 10, 20k at the tables, if matters not one iota to me, it has zero effect on me. What others do at the tables I sit at, such as the fool who bets 65 one side and 60 the other, he's an idiot, or the guy that records every card value that comes out but does nothing with them??? It's none of my business, best to remain focused on what you personally need to do, who cares if you bet 100 and there is a 10k bet on the other side. Don't involve yourself in other peoples action, or listening to tales of woe while having a smoke outside, who wins the most, who bets bigger, it's all bullsh1t.
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October 23rd, 2013 at 9:06:23 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

It was only when he decided to start badgering me and claiming to bet $400 per hand, did it all kick off. .



It was all very odd. He started of as kind of
mild mannered, betting small amounts, so he
said. Then overnight he turned into some kind
of bac monster, bragging and blowharding. And
this was at least 5 years ago.
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