2018 WoV Picks game (discussion thread)
Quote: AyecarumbaI just hope he’s not completely lost for the season, or permanently damaged because he came back to play on it.
It reminded me of Hulkamania. They were in shambles, but the crowd willed them to a dramatic victory.
A-Rod will be fine. The medical staff wouldn't have allowed him to return if there was concern. Worst case scenario out 4wks, IMO.
I think I had a pretty good week. And interesting that we are using the same exact strategy !Quote: onenickelmiracleAfaik I'll be 5/6 if the Rams cover tonight. Anyone perfect? My strategy is no strategy, I have no confidence going forward, might have to study if my luck persists.
You copied off me? I did post my picks publicly, but I'm not any good, does no harm. It was literally just impulse picks, took 1 minute to make up my mind. I did recall the Cleveland Pittsburgh opening game last year being close and a very low score, hoped it would repeat. After this, I'm using a oujia board. I could post 5 picks, that could be false picks, and they're just as likely to succeed as whatever picks I'm really using. It would be funny if I scared way others from using pics I picked, if they happen to be good pics.Quote: JohnnyQI think I had a pretty good week. And interesting that we are using the same exact strategy !
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Quote: JohnnyQI think I had a pretty good week. And interesting that we are using the same exact strategy !
No, no, I didn't copy the picks that you made that were crappy and were wrong !Quote: onenickelmiracleYou copied off me?
onenickelmiracle:
Browns +4
Browns U 44.5-confidence
49ers +6.5
Jaguars -3
Rams -4
JohnnyQ:
Steelers U 44.5 - CONFIDENCE
Jaguars U 43.5
Buccaneers (+9.5)
Texans U 51
Bears (+7.5)
I don't even have to look back to past years to know that 21 picks is BY FAR a record for the most number of picks for a total, for one game, let alone all on the SAME side.
As a comparison, the next highest number of over/under picks this week, on the same side, were on the Jags/Giants game with just 4 picks. (4 liked the UNDER in that game.)
So what did I miss? Why so may UNDERS on the Steelers/Browns game? And don't tell me it was just a coincidence, cause I won't buy it. Some piece of info must have been available to the public that I wasn't privy to.
I didn't know what you picked. When you said we used the same strategy, I thought they were identical. I was in a car driving, couldn't look it up. Over/unders are hard for me to visualize, I might not use them much. I'm not sure how much football I'll watch this year, tough to keep up.Quote: JohnnyQNo, no, I didn't copy the picks that you made that were crappy and were wrong !
onenickelmiracle:
Browns +4
Browns U 44.5-confidence
49ers +6.5
Jaguars -3
Rams -4
JohnnyQ:
Steelers U 44.5 - CONFIDENCE
Jaguars U 43.5
Buccaneers (+9.5)
Texans U 51
Bears (+7.5)
Oh his name is James Conner. Maybe they changed the real name in the movie. I'm hinting at time travel.Quote: EdCollinsA total of 21 picks were Steelers/Browns UNDER. (Counting Confidence pick as 2 picks, of course.)
I don't even have to look back to past years to know that 21 picks is BY FAR a record for the most number of picks for a total, for one game, let alone all on the SAME side.
As a comparison, the next highest number of over/under picks this week, on the same side, were on the Jags/Giants game with just 4 picks. (4 liked the UNDER in that game.)
So what did I miss? Why so may UNDERS on the Steelers/Browns game? And don't tell me it was just a coincidence, cause I won't buy it. Some piece of info must have been available to the public that I wasn't privy to.
Week 1 Results and Current Standings:
Mission146 (3-2)
Patriots -6.5 (win)
Patriots OVER 51 (loss)
Steelers -4 (loss)
Browns UNDER 44.5 (win)
Vikings -6.5 (win)
Fleastiff (3-2)
Steelers OVER 44.5 (loss)
Bengals +3 (win)
Bengals OVER 48.5 (win)
Redskins OVER 44 (loss)
Redskins +2 (win)
Joeman (3-2)
Steelers -4 Confidence (loss)
Texans UNDER 51 (win)
Rams -4 (win)
Seahawks +3 (push)
Bears +7.5 (win)
SOOPOO (1-5)
Bills UNDER 40.5 (Confidence) (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
49ers + 6.5 (loss)
Texans +6.5 (loss)
Bears UNDER 47.5 (win)
IndyJeffrey (2-3)
Vikings -6.5 (win)
Bengals +3 (win)
Cardinals -1 (loss)
Packers -7.5 (loss)
Lions -6.5 (loss)
Troopscott (3-3)
Jets (+6.5) (win)
Raiders (+4) (Confidence pick) (loss)
Dolphins (+1.5) (win)
Steelers (-4) (loss)
Patriots (-6.5) (win)
OdiousGambit (2-3)
Steelers -4 (loss)
Ravens OVER 40.5 (win)
Saints UNDER 49.5 (loss)
Raiders +4 (loss)
Chiefs +3.5 (win)
Midwest AP (1-4)
Steelers -4 (loss)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 (win)
Bills UNDER 40.5 (loss)
Packers -7.5 (loss)
Lions -6.5 (loss)
GenWyzgy (2-3)
Titans -1.5 (loss)
Chargers -3.5 (loss)
Rams -4 (win)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 (win)
Cardinals OVER 44 (loss)
PlayYourCardsRight (2-3)
Steelers (-4) (loss)
Patriots (-6.5) (win)
Dolphins (+1.5) (win)
Packers (-7.5) (loss)
Raiders (+4) (loss)
Terapined (3-2)
Ravens -7.5 (win)
Bucs +9.5 (win)
Texans +6.5 (loss)
Cardinals -1 (loss)
Bears +7.5 (win)
Rainman (1-3)
Steelers-4 (loss)
Giants+3 (loss)
Dolphins+1.5 (win)
Seahawks+3 (push)
Cowboys+3 (loss)
Vegasrider (2-4)
Browns +4 (win)
Texans +6.5 (loss)
Titans -1.5 (loss)
Chiefs OVER 48 (win)
Cardinals -1 Confidence (loss)
JW17 (1-3)
Denver -3 Confidence (push)
Chargers -3.5 (loss)
Rams -4 (win)
Cowboys +3 (loss)
Giants +3 (loss)
EdCollins (2-3)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Pats -6.5 (win)
Cardinals -1 (loss)
Bears +7.5 (win)
Raiders +4 (loss)
VCUSkyhawk (4-1)
Cowboys +3 (loss)
Seahawks +3 (push)
Patriots -6.5 Confidence (win)
Vikings -6.5 (win)
Chiefs +3.5 (win)
onenickelmiracle (5-1)
Browns +4 (win)
Browns UNDER 44.5 Confidence (win)
49ers +6.5 (loss)
Jaguars -3 (win)
Rams -4 (win)
Wizard (3-3)
49ers (+6.5) (loss)
Bengals (+3) Confidence (win)
Giants (+3) (loss)
Cowboys (+3) (loss)
Bears (+7.5) (win)
JohnZimbo (5-0)
Panthers -3 Confidence (win)
Panthers UNDER 42.5 (win)
Rams -4 (win)
Broncos -3 (push)
Bears +7.5 (win)
Bruce1 (4-1)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 (win)
Bengals +3 (win)
Dolphins +1.5 (win)
Cowboys OVER 42.5 (loss)
Rams UNDER 49.5 (win)
Prozema (3-2)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 (win)
Bengals +3 (win)
Texans +6.5 (loss)
Cowboys +3 (loss)
Bears +7.5 (win)
UnJon (5-1)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 (win)
Bengals +3 (win)
Rams -4 (win)
Giants +3 (loss)
Giants UNDER 43.5 Confidence (win)
JohnnyQ (6-0)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 Confidence (win)
Jaguars UNDER 43.5 (win)
Buccaneers (+9.5) (win)
Texans UNDER 51 (win)
Bears (+7.5) (win)
Gordonm888 (4-2)
Browns UNDER 44.5 Confidence (win)
Browns +4 (win)
49ers +6.5 (loss)
Bears +7.5 (win)
Raiders +4 (loss)
GWAE (3-3)
Browns (+4) (win)
Browns UNDER 44.5 (win)
Colts (-3) Confidence (loss)
Bills (+7.5) (loss)
Jaguars (-3) (win)
Sparty10k (4-1)
Bengals +3 (win)
Buccaneers +9.5 (win)
Titans -1.5 (loss)
Chiefs +3.5 (win)
Jets +6.5 (win)
RisingDough (5-0)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 Confidence (win)
Dolphins +1.5 (win)
Seahawks +3 (push)
Bears +7.5 (win)
Jets +6.5 (win)
Miplet (5-1)
Browns UNDER 44.5 (win)
Bengals +3 Confidence (win)
Dolphins +1.5 (win)
Cardinals -1 (loss)
Bears +7.5 (win)
kuma (5-1)
Bengals +3 (win)
Steelers UNDER 44.5 Confidence (win)
Bears +7.5 (win)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Buccaneers +9.5 (win)
Ayecarumba (1-5)
Giants +3 (loss)
Packers -7.5 (loss)
Ravens -7.5 (win)
Cardinals -1 Confidence (loss)
Raiders OVER 49.5 (loss)
DJatc (6-0)
Browns UNDER 44.5 Confidence (win)
Bengals +3 (win)
Giants UNDER 43.5 (win)
Packers UNDER 47.5 (win)
Raiders UNDER 49.5 (win)
MaxPen (2-4)
Browns OVER 44.5 (loss)
Colts -3 (loss)
Giants OVER 43.5 (loss)
Packers -7.5 (loss)
Colts OVER 48.5 Confidence (win)
Romes (4-2)
Vikings -6.5 (win)
Browns UNDER 44.5 (win)
Packers -7.5 (loss)
Lions -6.5 (loss)
Patriots -6.5 Confidence (win)
FourFiveFace (1-5)
49ers +6.5 (loss)
Texans +6.5 Confidence (loss)
Titans -1.5 (loss)
Bears +7.5 (win)
Raiders +4 (loss)
BeachBumBabs (3-3)
Vikings -6.5 (win)
Jaguars -3 (win)
Saints -9.5 Confidence (loss)
Patriots -6.5 (win)
Cardinals -1 (loss)
Rigondeaux (3-2)
Dolphins +1.5 (win)
Browns +4 (win)
Jets +6.5 (win)
Colts -3 (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
| Name | Wins | Losses | % |
|---|---|---|---|
| DJatc | 6 | 0 | 100.00% |
| JohnnyQ | 6 | 0 | 100.00% |
| JohnZimbo | 5 | 0 | 100.00% |
| RisingDough | 5 | 0 | 100.00% |
| kuma | 5 | 1 | 83.33% |
| Miplet | 5 | 1 | 83.33% |
| onenickelmiracle | 5 | 1 | 83.33% |
| UnJon | 5 | 1 | 83.33% |
| Bruce1 | 4 | 1 | 80.00% |
| Sparty10k | 4 | 1 | 80.00% |
| VCUSkyhawk | 4 | 1 | 80.00% |
| Gordonm888 | 4 | 2 | 66.67% |
| Romes | 4 | 2 | 66.67% |
| Fleastiff | 3 | 2 | 60.00% |
| Joeman | 3 | 2 | 60.00% |
| Mission146 | 3 | 2 | 60.00% |
| Prozema | 3 | 2 | 60.00% |
| Rigondeaux | 3 | 2 | 60.00% |
| Terapined | 3 | 2 | 60.00% |
| BeachBumBabs | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
| GWAE | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
| Troopscott | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
| Wizard | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
| EdCollins | 2 | 3 | 40.00% |
| GenWyzgy | 2 | 3 | 40.00% |
| IndyJeffrey | 2 | 3 | 40.00% |
| OdiousGambit | 2 | 3 | 40.00% |
| PlayYourCardsRight | 2 | 3 | 40.00% |
| MaxPen | 2 | 4 | 33.33% |
| Vegasrider | 2 | 4 | 33.33% |
| JW17 | 1 | 3 | 25.00% |
| Rainman | 1 | 3 | 25.00% |
| Midwest AP | 1 | 4 | 20.00% |
| Ayecarumba | 1 | 5 | 16.67% |
| FourFiveFace | 1 | 5 | 16.67% |
| SOOPOO | 1 | 5 | 16.67% |
| Nathan | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | scolist | 0 | 0 | 0.00% |
| Totals | 112 | 83 | 57.44% |
Record of Skip Weeks:
Edit 8/15/18 to add 2 late entries, for future reference
Nathan week 1
scolist week 1
There definitely was PUBLIC information that made this a very good bet =).Quote: EdCollinsA total of 21 picks were Steelers/Browns UNDER. (Counting Confidence pick as 2 picks, of course.)
I don't even have to look back to past years to know that 21 picks is BY FAR a record for the most number of picks for a total, for one game, let alone all on the SAME side.
As a comparison, the next highest number of over/under picks this week, on the same side, were on the Jags/Giants game with just 4 picks. (4 liked the UNDER in that game.)
So what did I miss? Why so may UNDERS on the Steelers/Browns game? And don't tell me it was just a coincidence, cause I won't buy it. Some piece of info must have been available to the public that I wasn't privy to.
Quote: EdCollins
So what did I miss? Why so may UNDERS on the Steelers/Browns game? And don't tell me it was just a coincidence, cause I won't buy it. Some piece of info must have been available to the public that I wasn't privy to.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but my default strategy always includes whoever plays the Browns ATS AND Browns UNDER. It doesn’t matter who they play, I’ll always have Browns UNDER.
Quote: Bruce1A-Rod will be fine. The medical staff wouldn't have allowed him to return if there was concern. Worst case scenario out 4wks, IMO.
Tell rg3 that
AND it still came down to TWO, NOT just ONE, missed Field Goals in OT. I had started to pencil that pick in as a "-2" at the end of the 4th Qtr because I had it as a confidence pick.Quote: RomesThere definitely was PUBLIC information that made this a very good bet =).
Quote: onenickelmiracleI didn't know what you picked. When you said we used the same strategy, I thought they were identical. I was in a car driving, couldn't look it up. Over/unders are hard for me to visualize, I might not use them much. I'm not sure how much football I'll watch this year, tough to keep up.
This is where our strategies were the same:
Quote: onenickelmiracleMy strategy is no strategy, I have no confidence going forward, might have to study if my luck persists.
And how many weeks, IF EVER, did 4 people have a set of perfect picks ?Quote: EdCollinsA total of 21 picks were Steelers/Browns UNDER. (Counting Confidence pick as 2 picks, of course.)
I don't even have to look back to past years to know that 21 picks is BY FAR a record for the most number of picks for a total, for one game, let alone all on the SAME side.
I’m sensing a high covariance in certain people’s picks.Quote: JohnnyQAnd how many weeks, IF EVER, did 4 people have a set of perfect picks ?Quote: EdCollinsA total of 21 picks were Steelers/Browns UNDER. (Counting Confidence pick as 2 picks, of course.)
I don't even have to look back to past years to know that 21 picks is BY FAR a record for the most number of picks for a total, for one game, let alone all on the SAME side.
Quote: JohnnyQAnd how many weeks, IF EVER, did 4 people have a set of perfect picks ?Quote: EdCollinsA total of 21 picks were Steelers/Browns UNDER. (Counting Confidence pick as 2 picks, of course.)
I don't even have to look back to past years to know that 21 picks is BY FAR a record for the most number of picks for a total, for one game, let alone all on the SAME side.
Don't think it's ever happened before. Congrats to all you sharp guys!
Quote: gordonm888The high covariance was partly due to so many of us reacting to the violent weather reports for the Cleveland-Pittsburgh game.
You gentlemen were checking the weather forecast in home game cities? Man... I'm in over my head!
You will notice that virtually every person who picked the Under for the Browns/Steelers game is at the bottom of Missions list -because they were the last people to send in their picks to Mission -they all waited until late Saturday or early Sunday to submit their picks. They almost all noticed the mention in various sports pick blogs of violent Cleveland weather and/or saw the O/U line drop to 39-41 points.
So, no, I normally don't check the weather in all the home cities for every game.
And here I thought EdC was about to blow the lid of a new scandal with his time travel theory.Quote: gordonm888What Happened. .....The O/U for that game dropped from 44.5 pts to 39-41 pts at most major sportsbooks and eventually settled at about 41 pts. And, of course, Mission's Thursday line for the O/U for that game remained fixed at 44.5
So, no, I normally don't check the weather in all the home cities for every game.
Regardless, I for one, pledge not to use TIME TRAVEL to make picks for the remainder of this game. What say you all ? Dilly dilly.
Quote: EdCollinsAnd away we go...
Week 1 Results and Current Standings:
[IndyJeffrey (2-3)
Vikings -6.5 (win)
Bengals +3 (win)
Cardinals -1 (loss)
Packers -7.5 (loss)
Lions -6.5 (loss)
Was feeling pretty good sitting 2-0.
Quote: AyecarumbaSpeaking of weather... hurricane headed for the Carolina's this weekend.
A bunch of college games are already cancelled. What are the rules for this league if you pick a game that has been cancelled? Should count as a zero.
That would not be the participant's fault, of course. So I would count it as a "push", doesn't help, doesn't hurt, percentage-wise. Seems obvious, but worth clarifying ( ? ).Quote: VegasriderA bunch of college games are already cancelled. What are the rules for this league if you pick a game that has been cancelled? Should count as a zero.
Quote: JohnnyQThat would not be the participant's fault, of course. So I would count it as a "push", doesn't help, doesn't hurt, percentage-wise. Seems obvious, but worth clarifying ( ? ).
Zero or push same thing Just stay away from the games that might be affected if you want to play it safe
Sunday 10am ET.Quote: FleaStiffSo when do I have to get my second set of 5 picks submitted by???
Quote: JohnnyQThat would not be the participant's fault, of course. So I would count it as a "push", doesn't help, doesn't hurt, percentage-wise. Seems obvious, but worth clarifying ( ? ).
Correct, it would be a no-decision.
Somewhere buried in this thread, or the OFFICIAL thread, it explains that yes you can definitely still join now, and the first week that you missed will count as your skip week. So what are you waiting for !Quote: NathanIs it too late for me to join? I can put up $25 on an Amazon gift card or something.
Quote: NathanIs it too late for me to join? I can put up $25 on an Amazon gift card or something.
send babs $76.25 in pennies and she will send back $51.25 for your entry. The odd dollar amount is to ensure that it's actually you sending it and not a Nigerian scammer
Quote: FleaStiffSo when do I have to get my second set of 5 picks submitted by???
If there is an international game with an early kickoff, Mission usually mentions the early submission deadline when the lines are released on Thursday.
In the past, uncertainties like key player injuries or weather have caused problems getting a line on Thursday. Hopefully, that won’t be the case this year.
Quote: AyecarumbaIn the past, uncertainties like key player injuries or weather have caused problems getting a line on Thursday. Hopefully, that won’t be the case this year.
Whoops. There's currently is no line on the Vikings-Packers game. The small matter of Aaron Rodgers and whether he will play or not.
I was surprised the books opened with a line but it looked like it was a pick ‘em to -1 up until last night.Quote: gordonm888Whoops. There's currently is no line on the Vikings-Packers game. The small matter of Aaron Rodgers and whether he will play or not.
Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss them.
The Week 2 Lines, brought to you by:
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/
Are as follows:
Colts (+6) @ Redskins (-6) O/U 48
Panthers (+6) @ Falcons (-6) O/U 44.5
Chargers (-7.5) @ Bills (+7.5) O/U 43
Texans (-2) @ Titans (+2) O/U 44.5
Chiefs (+4.5) @ Steelers (-4.5) O/U 53
Dolphins (+3) @ Jets (-3) O/U 43.5
Eagles (-3) @ Buccaneers (+3) O/U 44
Browns (+9) @ Saints (-9) O/U 49
Cardinals (+13) @ Rams (-13) O/U 45
Lions (+6) @ 49ers (-6) O/U 48
Patriots (-1) @ Jaguars (+1) O/U 45.5
Raiders (+6) @ Broncos (-6) O/U 46
Giants (+3) @ Cowboys (-3) O/U 42.5
Seahawks (+3.5) @ Bears (-3.5) O/U 43
Noticeably absent is the Minnesota Vikings game @ Green Bay, so I will look for lines for that game tomorrow night if we get word on whether or not Rodgers will play. If there's not a line for that game by tomorrow night, then there won't be a line for that game in this game.
Quote: Mission146Noticeably absent is the Minnesota Vikings game @ Green Bay, so I will look for lines for that game tomorrow night if we get word on whether or not Rodgers will play. If there's not a line for that game by tomorrow night, then there won't be a line for that game in this game.
Thank you for saving me from myself.
- check weather forecast in home cities.
- determine moon phase.
- find sports almanac from future.
- submit picks at last minute.
I'm on it.
Why am I worried about the moon phase again?
It affects the spin on the ball differently between left and right handed quarterbacks.Quote: prozemaWhy am I worried about the moon phase again?
(I'm just salty)
Quote: prozemaWhy am I worried about the moon phase again?
Important to know whether Tom Brady's wife is on the rag.
Quote: djatcA A ron rodgers is a hoe
(I'm just salty)
Me too. I'm waiting as long as possible because I almost always bet the Vikings.
There is a composite line there now, but I guess it's meaningless, given all the individual books missing? I don't think the line is correctly pick-em even if they're in GB.
