terapined
terapined
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August 6th, 2018 at 8:52:04 AM permalink
Yup
Its that time of year
I thought I would start the thread a little early this year
since
Previous years, we got this going a little to close to opening game
Hopefully Mission is up to running this again
Thanks Mission
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Mission146
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August 6th, 2018 at 9:24:46 AM permalink
Terapined,

Sure thing! Thanks for starting the thread! I'll put the official thread together sometime this week. I'll probably be kicking in a little less for prize donations this year than I did last year, last year I was basically just trying to keep up with WoN's donations. I didn't like the idea of him donating more to the game than me when I'm the one who invented it...lol

Anyway, my donations will probably be:

Winner: $50
Most Average: $50
You Suck: $50

I think that I'm going to do the flat entry fee again, but we're going to go back to the honor system. I think it was a condition of WoN's donation that I collect the entry fees prior to the start of the contest, but I could be wrong about that. Either way, there's really no good reason I should need to hold everybody's money for seventeen weeks. It's honestly more of a PITA for me than anything else, because half of it is in the form of Amazon Gift Cards. I thought only a little of it would be. I really don't need that many Amazon Gift Cards...lol

I've never really understood why I should donate more to the winner, even though it's been my choice. The winner gets the prizes from everybody else anyway, so what does the winner need a big donation for?
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Ayecarumba
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August 6th, 2018 at 10:50:00 AM permalink
Thanks Mission! I donít think you need to pump the winnerís pot at all. The championship prize is big enough on its own.

Looking forward to it.

Hopefully, everyone will get the fact that they need to submit predictions for the SB teams and their scores with their first entry (unless that aspect has changed).
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Mission146
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August 6th, 2018 at 11:01:30 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Thanks Mission! I donít think you need to pump the winnerís pot at all. The championship prize is big enough on its own.

Looking forward to it.

Hopefully, everyone will get the fact that they need to submit predictions for the SB teams and their scores with their first entry (unless that aspect has changed).



That's for the Playoff Picks Game, in which a tie is much more likely. If there were a tie in this game, the players would have the option of either splitting the pot or making their Super Bowl predictions at that time. THere's no reason to make Super Bowl predictions before the regular season even starts, neither of the two teams may even end up in the playoffs for both players.

I guess we'll see how many players we get and I'll reserve the right to move the $50 Winner Donation to, "You Suck," and, "Most Average." I'll probably move that if we end up with 25 players (or more) because that would be $600 to the winner.
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MidwestAP
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August 6th, 2018 at 11:02:22 AM permalink
Glad to hear this is going to run again. Looking forward to defending my title!!
unJon
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August 6th, 2018 at 11:16:48 AM permalink
Could someone point me to the rules? Iíd be interested in playing.
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Romes
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August 6th, 2018 at 11:24:09 AM permalink
I'm IN!!! ...and I have a sure fire strategy for 1st place this year =D. Anyone taking odds on who will win before the season starts (aka can I bet on the Wizard with like 2-1 odds???)?

Not for the pick'ems but something else... we used a site that collected the fees from everyone automatically... if there is a small surcharge for the service I think we should accommodate that and just use that. We should get all fee's collected prior to the season starting, that way if anyone flakes out it's on them, and not on all of us to absorb the blow.

Thinking like $10 per person? If we have that service with a fee, we could make it like $12 per person, where the extra $2 per person goes to covering the fee for setting everything up... I'd be 100% on board with that to streamline the process.
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MidwestAP
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August 6th, 2018 at 12:00:47 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I'm IN!!! ...and I have a sure fire strategy for 1st place this year =D. Anyone taking odds on who will win before the season starts (aka can I bet on the Wizard with like 2-1 odds???)?

Not for the pick'ems but something else... we used a site that collected the fees from everyone automatically... if there is a small surcharge for the service I think we should accommodate that and just use that. We should get all fee's collected prior to the season starting, that way if anyone flakes out it's on them, and not on all of us to absorb the blow.

Thinking like $10 per person? If we have that service with a fee, we could make it like $12 per person, where the extra $2 per person goes to covering the fee for setting everything up... I'd be 100% on board with that to streamline the process.



Wiz wins every other year. I have all the years results compiled, will post them sometime soon.

As far as the money, I know I've used LeagueSafe in the past and it's worked very well. There's a small fee for this, but it's not extravagant. The entry expenses are collected ahead of time and the organizer doesn't have to worry about collection nor payout. On the other hand, I think with only a few exceptions, there hasn't been issues collecting individual payments in the past.

Edited to correct grammatical mistakes
Romes
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August 6th, 2018 at 12:07:06 PM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

Wiz wins every other year. I have all the years results compiled, will post them sometime soon.

As far as the money, I know I've used LeagueSafe in the past and it's worked very well. Theress a small fee for this, but it's not extravagant. Then fees are collected ahead of time and the organizer doesn't have to worry about collection not payout. On the other hand, I think with only a few exceptions, there hasn't been issues collecting individual payments in the past.

Ah, yes, something like this! Whatever the fee is just plan to divide it among 15-20 people and make the entry fee that much extra. I.E. $11 to enter, $1 to fee, $10 to pool. I think that's very fair, especially given all the work mission does to update and run the game.

Let's help make his life easier by pitching in an extra buck... (or probably less?).
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MidwestAP
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August 6th, 2018 at 12:11:13 PM permalink
A little history of the game that Mission has generously administered each year.

- There are 4 players who have participated in all six seasons, Wizard, JohnZimbo, Miplet, and Mission146.

- There are an additional 8 players who have participated in five of the six seasons: SOOPOO, StrictlyAP(WizardofNothing), AyeCarumba, JW17, EdCollins, Beachbumbabs, terapined, and myself.

- The list of champions are:

2012 Wizard (71.26%)
2013 AyeCarumba (58.62%)
2014 Wizard (70.00%)
2015 Ed Collins (59.04%)
2016 Wizard (63.41%)
2017 MidwestAP (61.18%)

- I've listed the aggregated results (by total win pct) for all participants with at least 240 picks (avg 80 results or more over at least three years) over those six seasons. I have the complete record if anyone is interested in knowing other results.

- The results include confidence picks as double, and exclude the forfeited 0-5 weeks.

- The aggregate record for all players (69 unique participants over six seasons) is 7020-6919 (50.36%)


Player Win Loss Pct
Wizard 327 211 60.78%
MidwestAP 208 178 53.89%
Mission146 258 226 53.31%
beachbumbabs 230 205 52.87%
Paradigm 182 165 52.45%
Terapined 210 199 51.34%
EdCollins 224 213 51.26%
Miplet 276 263 51.21%
AyeCarumba 232 225 50.77%
Aluiso 178 176 50.28%
RDWPotus 140 139 50.18%
StrictlyAP (WizardofNothing) 231 230 50.11%
JohnZimbo 281 282 49.91%
genwyzgy 179 180 49.86%
10DollarBri 170 171 49.85%
Steeldco 188 190 49.74%
JML24 179 181 49.72%
FourFiveFace 139 147 48.60%
JW17 215 229 48.42%
SOOPOO 231 253 47.73%
Ten2Win 172 198 46.49%

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