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November 25th, 2018 at 1:47:27 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

DJATC:
PUSH Eagles OVER 46.5 - CONFIDENCE



Please explain how an over/under 46.5 pushed?

Seems like 47 is more than 46.5, so DJ gets a confidence win?
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November 25th, 2018 at 1:49:06 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Please explain how an over/under 46.5 pushed?



DJ made a typo... The o/u was really 47.
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November 25th, 2018 at 3:04:10 PM permalink
I think due to the confusion and all the moving parts it should be considered at 46.5. Just my independent, 3rd person, unbiased opinion. I have no skin in the game.
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November 25th, 2018 at 3:06:23 PM permalink
I must have looked at the Browns/Bengals total and got mixed up. But hey it's only half a point, so let a brutha have 46.5

EDIT: Also RS must have hornswaggled me by typing in some wonky formatting for this weeks lines, so I say we suspend him for the rest of the NFL season with a fine
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November 25th, 2018 at 3:48:50 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

I must have looked at the Browns/Bengals total and got mixed up. But hey it's only half a point, so let a brutha have 46.5



Would you have any interest in 47.5? I'm sure that could be arranged.
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November 25th, 2018 at 3:52:31 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

I must have looked at the Browns/Bengals total and got mixed up. But hey it's only half a point, so let a brutha have 46.5

EDIT: Also RS must have hornswaggled me by typing in some wonky formatting for this weeks lines, so I say we suspend him for the rest of the NFL season with a fine

I'm wondering if a game flaw you've exploited all year may have just been discovered. Going to have double check. I'm farked, this game is over for me anyway.
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November 25th, 2018 at 4:15:06 PM permalink
tough for Colts -7.5 since they tied with 2 minutes left
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November 25th, 2018 at 4:22:39 PM permalink
Yeah me too, I have under 51 and it is 24-24 with 2 minutes to go. I'll take a push please.
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November 25th, 2018 at 7:00:05 PM permalink
W Seahawks +3
W Chargers over 44
W Browns +3
L 49ers +3
W 49ers under 54
? Titans +6.5
W patriots -10
L packers +3.5
W Ravens -10.5
L Colts -7.5-confidence

6/9, (6/10. 7/10 depending on MNF) Yet I'm looking at 3/6 as a best case scenario.

I chose the 2-3 biggest losers on this list. My whittling was worthless. How that happened I'm clueless. Guess I was afraid Brady wouldn't play and New England wouldn't care about obliteration.
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November 25th, 2018 at 7:32:24 PM permalink
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tough for Colts -7.5 since they tied with 2 minutes left

I'll give you 5/1 you can't win two years in a row.
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November 25th, 2018 at 8:17:22 PM permalink
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I'll give you 5/1 you can't win two years in a row.


Over how many years?
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November 25th, 2018 at 8:20:56 PM permalink
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Over how many years?

This year and next year, he must win this year and also win next year.

5/1 revoked. 4/1 also revoked. 2.25/1 now.
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November 26th, 2018 at 5:23:57 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Please explain how an over/under 46.5 pushed?

Seems like 47 is more than 46.5, so DJ gets a confidence win?



If the line was 47 and score was 47 that should be a loss because it was not over ?
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November 26th, 2018 at 2:56:47 PM permalink
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If the line was 47 and score was 47 that should be a loss because it was not over ?

Not that I know of, it's not roulette.
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November 26th, 2018 at 7:00:25 PM permalink
Quote: troopscott

If the line was 47 and score was 47 that should be a loss because it was not over ?

No, that's considered a push.
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November 26th, 2018 at 7:13:32 PM permalink
Ha! Just found a potential bug in my grading program.

If someone accidentally spelled the word "confidence" wrong, by interchanging the "f" and the "i" (conifdence, which actually happened this week), my program failed to recognize that as a confidence pick.

Now fixed, in case it ever happens again. (Confidence and Conifdence are now both valid.)
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November 26th, 2018 at 7:14:39 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Ha! Just found a potential bug in my grading program.

If someone accidentally spelled the word "confidence" wrong, by interchanging the "f" and the "i" (conifdence, which actually happened this week), my program failed to recognize that as a confidence pick.

Now fixed, in case it ever happens again. (Confidence and Conifdence are now both valid.)



My bad. Sorry!

I had a fair amount of adult beverage before typing those picks.
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November 26th, 2018 at 7:24:18 PM permalink
Next week I am making a conifer pick. Hope it counts as three wins :)
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November 26th, 2018 at 7:58:15 PM permalink
Week 12 Results and Current Standings

Rigondeaux (4-1)
Dolphins +7.5 (win)
Browns +3 (win)
Jets +10 (loss)
Bills +3 (win)
Buccaneers -3 (win)

GenWyzgy (1-3)
Patriots-10 (win)
Colts -7.5 (loss)
Steelers-3 (loss)
Packers OVER 47.5 (loss)
Eagles OVER 47 (push)

Prozema (3-2)
49ers +3 (loss)
Giants +6 (win)
Giants OVER 47 (push)
Browns +3 Confidence (win)
Titans +6.5 (loss)

Gordonm888 (4-2)
Bills +3 Confidence (win)
Patriots -9 (win)
Panthers -3 (loss)
Cardinals +12 (loss)
Vikings -3 (win)

MaxPen (1-4)
Raiders +10.5 (loss)
Buccaneers -3 (win)
Eagles UNDER 47 (push)
Bengals -3 Confidence (loss)
Jets OVER 47.5 (loss)

DJATC (2-2)
49ers +3 (loss)
Eagles OVER 47 Confidence (push)
Browns +3 (win)
Jets UNDER 47.5 (win)
Titans +6.5 (loss)

kuma (2-4)
49ers (+3) (loss)
Browns (+3) (win)
Broncos (+3) (win)
Packers (+3.5) (loss)
Titans (+6.5) Confidence (loss)

Onenickelmiracle (2-4)
Browns +3 (win)
49ers +3 (loss)
49ers UNDER 54 (win)
Titans +6.5 (loss)
Colts -7.5 Confidence (loss)

miplet (2-4)
49ers +3 (loss)
Giants +6 (win)
Browns +3 (win)
Packers +3.5 (loss)
Titans +6.5 Confidence (loss)

SOOPOO (3-3)
Patriots -10 Confidence (win)
Giants +6 (win)
Cardinals +13 (loss)
Packers +3.5 (loss)
Steelers-3 (loss)

RisingDough (1-5)
Raiders +10.5 (loss)
49ers +3 (loss)
Eagles -6 (loss)
Vikings -3.5 (win)
Titans +6.5 Confidence (loss)

JW17 (5-1)
Broncos +3 Confidence (win)
Bills +3 (win)
Browns +3 (win)
Seahawks +3 (win)
49ers +3 (loss)

Michael99000 (1-3)
Jaguars UNDER 37 (loss)
Ravens UNDER 42.5 (loss)
49ers UNDER 54 (win)
Eagles UNDER 47 (push)
Browns UNDER 46.5 (loss)

Ayecarumba (2-4)
Bills +3 Confidence (win)
Raiders +10.5 (loss)
49ers +3 (loss)
49ers -OVER 54 (loss)
Titans -UNDER 41.5 (loss)

Fleastiff (3-2)
bills OVER 37 (win)
seahawks +3 (win)
cardinals OVER 44 (win)
packers +3.5 (loss)
titans +6.5 (loss)

scolist (4-1)
Steelers -3 (loss)
Buccaneers -3 (win)
Giants +6 (win)
Patriots -10 (win)
Texans -6.5 (win)

FourFiveFace (5-1)
Bills +3 (win)
Giants +6 (win)
Patriots -10 (win)
Dolphins +7.5 Confidence (win)
Titans +6.5 (loss)

GWAE (3-3)
Jaguars OVER 37 (win)
Buccaneers (-3) (win)
Bengals (-3) Confidence (loss)
Seahawks (+3) (win)
Colts (-7.5) (loss)

EdCollins (4-2)
Cardinals +13 (Confidence) (loss)
Dolphins +7.5 (win)
Broncos +3 (win)
Seahawks +3 (win)
Giants +6 (win)

Sparty10k (4-1)
49ers UNDER 54 (win)
Giants UNDER 47 (push)
Browns OVER 46.5 (win)
Seahawks +3–Confidence (win)
Colts-7.5 (loss)

unJon (3-3)
Browns +3 Confidence (win)
Jets UNDER 47.5 (win)
49ers +3 (loss)
Packers +3.5 (loss)
Steelers -3 (loss)

MidwestAP (1-5)
Raiders +10.5 (loss)
Jets +10 (loss)
Dolphins +7.5 (win)
Cardinals +13 (loss)
Titans +6.5 Confidence (loss)

Joeman (3-2)
Patriots -10 (win)
Colts -7.5 (loss)
49ers UNDER 54 (win)
Jaguars OVER 37 (win)
Packers +3.5 (loss)

IndyJeffrey (2-4)
Bengals -3 (loss)
Patriots -10 (win)
Dolphins +7.5 (win)
Steelers -3 Confidence (loss)
Packers +3.5 (loss)

Romes (2-4)
Buccaneers -3 (win)
Panthers -3 (loss)
Cardinals +13 (loss)
Browns +3 (win)
Eagles -6 Confidence (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (3-2)
Ravens -10.5 (win)
Eagles -6 (loss)
Bengals -3 (loss)
Vikings -3.5 (win)
Texans -6.5 (win)

BeachBumBabs (3-3)
Vikings -3.5 Confidence (win)
Vikings OVER 47.5 (loss)
Steelers +3 (loss)
Chargers UNDER 44 (loss)
Patriots UNDER 47.5 (win)

odiousgambit (2-3)
Bengals -3 (loss)
Eagles -6 Confidence (loss)
Broncos +3 (win)
Bills OVER 37 (win)
Colts UNDER 51 (push)

JohnnyQ (5-0)
Bills (+3) Confidence (win)
Buccaneers (-3) (win)
Browns (+3) (win)
Dolphins UNDER 51 (push)
Broncos (+3) (win)

Terapined (3-2)
Ravens -10.5 (win)
Bucs -3 (win)
Cards +13 (loss)
Jets +10 (loss)
Dolphins +7.5 (win)

JohnZimbo (3-1)
Patriots - 10 (win)
Panthers -3 (loss)
Texans OVER 41.5 (win)
Ravens -10.5 (win)
Colts UNDER 51 (push)

Bruce1 (2-2)
Giants OVER 47 (push)
Browns (+3) (win)
Browns OVER 46.5 (win)
Steelers OVER 46.5 (loss)
Titans (+6.5) (loss)

TroopScott (3-1)
Bills OVER 37 (win)
Raiders OVER 42.5 (win)
49ers OVER 54 (loss)
Giants OVER 47 (push)
Browns OVER 46.5 (win)


Name Wins Losses %
DJatc 43 20 68.25%
GWAE 42 25 62.69%
JohnZimbo 40 24 62.50%
FourFiveFace 42 29 59.15%
Prozema 37 27 57.81%
onenickelmiracle 39 30 56.52%
JohnnyQ 37 29 56.06%
Bruce1 33 29 53.23%
Wizard 34 30 53.13%
EdCollins 36 32 52.94%
Fleastiff 31 28 52.54%
kuma 37 34 52.11%
Miplet 33 32 50.77%
IndyJeffrey 31 31 50.00%
Michael99000 31 31 50.00%
RisingDough 32 32 50.00%
UnJon 36 36 50.00%
PlayYourCardsRight 30 32 48.39%
GenWyzgy 29 31 48.33%
Joeman 32 35 47.76%
Gordonm888 30 33 47.62%
Rigondeaux 28 31 47.46%
JW17 32 36 47.06%
MaxPen 29 34 46.03%
Sparty10k 29 35 45.31%
OdiousGambit 27 34 44.26%
MidwestAP 27 35 43.55%
Romes 30 39 43.48%
Terapined 25 34 42.37%
Scolist 22 31 41.51%
BeachBumBabs 29 41 41.43%
SOOPOO 29 42 40.85%
Vegasrider 22 32 40.74%
Troopscott 22 36 37.93%
VCUSkyhawk 19 32 37.25%
Ayecarumba 25 46 35.21%
Totals 1,130 1,168 49.17%


Record of Skip Weeks:
DJatc - Week 5
IndyJeffrey - Week 10
MaxPen - Week 6
Michael99000 - Week 1
Miplet - Week 6
RisingDough - Week 11
scolist - Week 1
Sparty10K - Week 10
TroopScott - Week 3
VCUSkyhawk - Week 4, Week 11, Week 12
Vegasrider - Week 10, Week 11, Week 12
Wizard - Week 12



After one more week of no picks from VCUSkyhawk or Vegasrider, I will remove them from the standings.

The above standings correct a mistake I found regarding Michael99000's picks in Week 10. His Week 10 result of 3-3 was not reflected. (To clarify, his overall record of 23-23 after Week 9 remained that way after Week 10, when it should have been 26-26.)
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November 26th, 2018 at 8:07:57 PM permalink
Splitting the most average prize four ways is so basic.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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November 26th, 2018 at 10:21:12 PM permalink
56.32% that sucks. The writing was on the wall and I couldn't see it. My picks were farked, i said it, but failed to correct. I'll finish above 59%, not bad. Aces up..

Added, I once mentioned offering bet I would finish over 56% I believe, I'm barely there now. This is not easy, I'm sure at the time on my then skill level, my offer was very optimistic and not a good bet on my part.
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November 27th, 2018 at 3:46:06 PM permalink
Ewww look at jz making a move

Its so close that 1 6-0 or 0-6 will be a game changer.
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November 27th, 2018 at 3:59:36 PM permalink
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Ewww look at jz making a move

Its so close that 1 6-0 or 0-6 will be a game changer.

There will be a few people who will finish above any former champion, and former runner-up, former show winner, etc. I'll win next year, no doubt about it.
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November 27th, 2018 at 6:33:26 PM permalink
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November 28th, 2018 at 6:09:01 PM permalink
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Next week I am making a conifer pick. Hope it counts as three wins :)



No, just one win, but you can use it to make green year-round.
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November 28th, 2018 at 6:13:01 PM permalink
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Splitting the most average prize four ways is so basic.



That actually presents an interesting scenario: I never thought there would be more than a two-way tie, so the Super Bowl tiebreaker would come into play, or the two could just split it. In the case of a three (or more) way tie, I guess I’d just give each player the choice to take his share or play for more. I’d probably send a PM and set a certain day and time for decisions to be revealed.
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November 29th, 2018 at 1:04:13 AM permalink
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That actually presents an interesting scenario: I never thought there would be more than a two-way tie, so the Super Bowl tiebreaker would come into play, or the two could just split it. In the case of a three (or more) way tie, I guess I’d just give each player the choice to take his share or play for more. I’d probably send a PM and set a certain day and time for decisions to be revealed.



There is always something that comes up. I wrote my employee manual. I spent countless hours on it and I thought I had everything covered. In the 7 months that we have existed I have had to revise it 3 times and I am about to revise it a 4th. Fan people always figured out a way around sonething.
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November 29th, 2018 at 1:17:30 AM permalink
@ people whom I made a bet with — what happens if djatc ties for first place? I say that counts as winning because technically that’s winning but I don’t want to get hornswoggled on that or anyone else feel like they got hornswoggled
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November 29th, 2018 at 1:42:21 AM permalink
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@ people whom I made a bet with — what happens if djatc ties for first place? I say that counts as winning because technically that’s winning but I don’t want to get hornswoggled on that or anyone else feel like they got hornswoggled

Sounds like a push in every other bet people make. The odds of a tie aren't good. We don't have a bet between us, so that's just my opinion.
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November 29th, 2018 at 2:19:24 AM permalink
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@ people whom I made a bet with — what happens if djatc ties for first place? I say that counts as winning because technically that’s winning but I don’t want to get hornswoggled on that or anyone else feel like they got hornswoggled



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November 29th, 2018 at 2:43:34 PM permalink
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@ people whom I made a bet with — what happens if djatc ties for first place? I say that counts as winning because technically that’s winning but I don’t want to get hornswoggled on that or anyone else feel like they got hornswoggled

No one likes to be hornswoggled ! So let's figure out a reasonable compromise.

Esteemed Forum members, ideas ?
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November 29th, 2018 at 3:21:32 PM permalink
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No one likes to be hornswoggled ! So let's figure out a reasonable compromise.

Esteemed Forum members, ideas ?

If the tied parties agree to a tiebreaker, then the bet follows the tiebreaker. If the tied parties agree to split then it’s a push.
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November 29th, 2018 at 3:22:40 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

No one likes to be hornswoggled ! So let's figure out a reasonable compromise.

Esteemed Forum members, ideas ?



The word "esteemed" pretty much rules me out, but I think if you offered to bet on a tie the odds would be quite long. As a result, Im not worrying about it.

That being said, I think the people who have action are the only ones whose opinion matters.
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November 29th, 2018 at 3:28:08 PM permalink
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The word "esteemed" pretty much rules me out, but I think if you offered to bet on a tie the odds would be quite long. As a result, Im not worrying about it.

That being said, I think the people who have action are the only ones whose opinion matters.



but they are biased so I think it would be wise to ask for outside influence. Although I think the ones that are involved should state their opinion. Maybe they all have the same opinion so then ours doesnt matter.
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November 29th, 2018 at 3:32:44 PM permalink
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but they are biased so I think it would be wise to ask for outside influence. Although I think the ones that are involved should state their opinion. Maybe they all have the same opinion so then ours doesnt matter.



That's fair. Well... Rules of the game is that points in the Superbowl is a tiebreaker, so I think the argument that there are no ties is the most reasonable.
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November 29th, 2018 at 3:59:13 PM permalink
I didn't even consider a tiebreaker scenario with the Superb Owl. I assume that makes it so no ties are possible...or are ties still possible under that scenario?
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November 29th, 2018 at 4:08:42 PM permalink
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I didn't even consider a tiebreaker scenario with the Superb Owl. I assume that makes it so no ties are possible...or are ties still possible under that scenario?

I thought players had the option to do the tiebreaker or split the money. So a tie is possible if the players choose a tie (which means the side bets should be a push, IMO).
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November 29th, 2018 at 4:11:32 PM permalink
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I didn't even consider a tiebreaker scenario with the Superb Owl. I assume that makes it so no ties are possible...or are ties still possible under that scenario?



I dunno, but I wanna see that owl. It sounds superb.
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November 29th, 2018 at 4:16:55 PM permalink
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I thought players had the option to do the tiebreaker or split the money. So a tie is possible if the players choose a tie (which means the side bets should be a push, IMO).



You could argue that splitting first place money signifies a first place finish too.
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November 29th, 2018 at 4:24:01 PM permalink
Here's what the rules say from the "Official" thread:

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HOW TO PLAY:

The Rules will be as follows:

Format:

Top Three Paid as Follows:

First Place: The Sum of ALL Entry Fees Less $125
Second Place: $100
Third Place: $25

There are also two Consolation Prizes for those who do not finish in the Top 3. I will contribute $75 to each prize for $150 total.

Consolation Prizes:

The first consolation prize will be the, "You suck," consolation prize. This prize goes to the player with the worst record, if there is a tie, then the winner shall be adjudicated by the normal tie breaking Rule or the players may opt to split it.

The second consolation prize will be the, "Most Average," consolation prize which goes to the player that finishes the season closest to .500. Tiebreakers will also be adjudicated using the normal tie breaking Rule or the players may opt to split it.

Rules:

1.) The winner will be determined by having the highest winning percentage. In the event of a tie for any prize, the winners will have the option of either splitting the take, or they may agree to PM me a Super Bowl pick prior to the Super Bowl, but after the combatants are known, consisting of the winning team, spread and TD's thrown; the winner will be determined in that order. If two Members PM me the same thing, they will BOTH be asked to change at least one aspect of their picks.

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November 29th, 2018 at 4:39:06 PM permalink
Is it safe to assume that in the case of a two-way tie for first place where both parties agree to split, that they will split the first and second place monies?

In that case, I would rule that a tie for first is still a first place win, since it is a win that includes both first and second places (takes out Venn diagram...)
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November 29th, 2018 at 4:43:50 PM permalink
Well I have a few dollars still at risk here, but I don't think a tie is a win. IE, if someone ties DJATC, then DJATC did not win. Look at the Browns record, it is 4-6-1 and not 5-6. Fellow Scholars ?
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November 29th, 2018 at 5:02:03 PM permalink
I agree.....sorta. If you look at stuff, like say, the results of a golf tournament during play, you'll oftentimes see people tied for first place. But then again, I have some bias since I also got action on it. Although, I suppose we could do a thing where if it's a tie and they choose to chop, then our bet counts as a tie. If they tie but go to Superb Owl tiebreaker, then decision of that is winner...and if there's a tie again, then our bet pushes.

I'll still let you buy out right now for $21. Offer still on the table, until Saturday night 11:59pm LV time.
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November 29th, 2018 at 5:58:51 PM permalink
I'll pipe down. Clearly I don't know the rules...

Ok, last idea... Longest signature line wins? :-)

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November 29th, 2018 at 6:05:55 PM permalink
I have action both directions.

I didn't read the picks rules very closely. I thought we had a tie-break system in place for a reason.

But I think what Shaggy said is fine with me. And in line with the (new?) option for chopping the pot.
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November 29th, 2018 at 7:25:03 PM permalink
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I have action both directions.

I didn't read the picks rules very closely. I thought we had a tie-break system in place for a reason.

But I think what Shaggy said is fine with me. And in line with the (new?) option for chopping the pot.

Yo uh tie be uh tie
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November 29th, 2018 at 8:45:23 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 13 Lines are as follows:

Colts (-4) @ Jaguars (+4) O/U 47
Chargers (+3.5) @ Steelers (-3.5) O/U 51.5
Panthers (-3.5) @ Buccaneers (+3.5) O/U 54.5
Ravens (+1.5) @ Falcons (-1.5) O/U 48
Browns (+6) @ Texans (-6) O/U 47
Bills (+3.5) @ Dolphins (-3.5) O/U 40
Bears (-4) @ Giants (+4) O/U 44.5
Broncos (-5) @ Bengals (+5) O/U 45
Rams (-10) @ Lions (+10) O/U 55
Cardinals (+14) @ Packers (-14) O/U 44
Chiefs (-15) @ Raiders (+15) O/U 55.5
Jets (+8) @ Titans (-8) O/U 40.5
Vikings (+5) @ Patriots (-5) O/U 49.5
49ers (+10) @ Seahawks (-10) O/U 46
Redskins (+6.5) @ Eagles (-6.5) O/U 45
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November 30th, 2018 at 1:47:40 AM permalink
My picks are in, good luck, I don't need line movements to do good.

However I have some recommendations for you, to cloud you mind help you.

Detroit +10
Washington +6.5
Chargers under 51.5
Vikings +5
Chiefs over 55.5

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December 2nd, 2018 at 5:46:26 AM permalink
ONE HOUR guys! No wake-up call from Mission this week.
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December 2nd, 2018 at 5:57:42 AM permalink
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ONE HOUR guys! No wake-up call from Mission this week.



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