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Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOBottom of the 8th. Inning about to be over…. Ground ball snagged by first baseman Pete Alonso. All he has to do is toss to Edwin Diaz covering first. Except Diaz FORGOT to cover 1st. A major league pitcher forgot to do what a 2nd grader in little league would not forget.
Congrats on your win. I believe most Little League teams coach the second baseman to cover first. Probably because the distance from home to first is much shorter in Little League.
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All depends. A lefty pitcher is moving away from first base and has his back turned to the base after he delivers the pitch, so it's much harder to cover first. CC Sabathia had this problem in addition to his weight and a lot of runners beat him to the bag. But Diaz is righty so that doesn't apply to him, he was just clueless.
If it's a righty batter the second baseman will usually be close to the 2B bag and the first baseman will be about a third of the way in from first. So if he can't run it to first the pitcher has to cover, no way can the second baseman cover if the first baseman can't. This all depends on how deep they are playing too. For a lefty the first baseman will be close to the line and the second baseman playing midway like a shortshop but on the right side. Then it's possible the second baseman can cover if the first baseman had to lay out or fade way back to catch a ball.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOBottom of the 8th. Inning about to be over…. Ground ball snagged by first baseman Pete Alonso. All he has to do is toss to Edwin Diaz covering first. Except Diaz FORGOT to cover 1st. A major league pitcher forgot to do what a 2nd grader in little league would not forget.
Congrats on your win. I believe most Little League teams coach the second baseman to cover first. Probably because the distance from home to first is much shorter in Little League.
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All depends. A lefty pitcher is moving away from first base and has his back turned to the base after he delivers the pitch, so it's much harder to cover first. CC Sabathia had this problem in addition to his weight and a lot of runners beat him to the bag. But Diaz is righty so that doesn't apply to him, he was just clueless.
If it's a righty batter the second baseman will usually be close to the 2B bag and the first baseman will be about a third of the way in from first. So if he can't run it to first the pitcher has to cover, no way can the second baseman cover if the first baseman can't. This all depends on how deep they are playing too. For a lefty the first baseman will be close to the line and the second baseman playing midway like a shortshop but on the right side. Then it's possible the second baseman can cover if the first baseman had to lay out or fade way back to catch a ball.
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I don't disagree but my comment was for Little League. I have probably watched close to 1000 Little League games and I would say 99% of the time it is the second baseman covering first. When I was playing we didn't have the pitcher cover first until we were probably 14 years old.
Quote: billryanQuote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOQuote: lilredrooster.
r.i.p. Pete Rose - (Charlie Hustle) a truly great player who has a checkered legacy who died yesterday
from the article:
"For millions of baseball fans, Rose will be known mainly for a number, 4,256, his total of hits, the most for any player in the history of the game. But he was a deeply compromised champion."
he was banned from the MLB in 1989 for illegal gambling including on baseball - he is also ineligible for the Hall of Fame
Rose later admitted he bet on MLB games but never against his own team
https://archive.ph/007gR#selection-811.0-832.0
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I think the most amazing stat about PR. There are only 12 hitters within 1000 hits of his 4256.
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I find it surprising that the closest active player is still 2,000 hits behind him.
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The game has changed. Players like Rose are all but obsolete. Luis Arraezz has won three straight batting titles but is never mentioned when discussing elite players. He's on his third team in three years. Today, if you don't have pop in your bat, the scouts move on. That's not to say Rose couldn't play in today's leagues; I just don't think he'd get the chance. Teams would rather have an infielder who can hit 25 home runs than one who hits .305.
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Pete Rose didn't hit a lot of homers but one year he had 81 RBIs, one year 82 and one year 76, and one year 74
Jarren Duran led the league in doubles this year with 48
in several years Pete led the league in doubles with 45, 47, 42, 51 and 42
as far as batting .305 it was his last several years when he was older that brought his lifetime BA down
in his best years he batted .335, .348, .338 and .331
he appeared in 17 All Star games, won the NL MVP award one year and was the World Series MVP 2 years later
yes, he was truly great - and not just for the no. of hits
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rosepe01.shtml
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he appeared in 17 All Star games, won the NL MVP award one year and was the World Series MVP 2 years later
yes, he was truly great - and not just for the no. of hits
I believe I heard he was voted to the All-Star game at five different positions.
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he appeared in 17 All Star games, won the NL MVP award one year and was the World Series MVP 2 years later
yes, he was truly great - and not just for the no. of hits
I believe I heard he was voted to the All-Star game at five different positions.
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He was a hell of a ballplayer, and a scumbag of a human being. That wouldn't have mattered if he hadn't bet on baseball and lied about it.
Las Vegas will be hosting the 2027 Division I Women's Basketball regionals (at T-Mobile - and note that this is actually for two of the four regionals), and both the 2027 and 2028 Men's Volleyball finals (at Orleans Arena).
Las Vegas is also hosting the 2028 Division I Men's Basketball Final Four, but that had already been announced.
Also, this is not exactly Vegas, but Boulder Creek Golf Club in Boulder City is hosting the 2028 Division III Men's Golf finals.
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Also, this is not exactly Vegas, but Boulder Creek Golf Club in Boulder City is hosting the 2028 Division III Men's Golf finals.
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I played Boulder Creek many many times and found it to be one of the best public courses in the area. The course is not very difficult so I am surprised it is being used for a championship.
kinna amusing article re Trevor Lawrence the Jags QB
the Jags are 0-4 and Lawrence has lost 9 straight games
less than 4 months ago the Jags gave him a $275 million record breaking extension on his contract_______________(-:/
Lawrence is now the highest paid qb in the league tied with Joe Burrow over the extension years
of course, he's not the only extremely high paid qb that has failed to produce - the article points out several others
https://archive.ph/ECnEG
and wow - Kirk Cousins threw for 509 yards and 4 TDs yesterday leading his Falcons to a 36-30 win over the Bucs
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and wow - Kirk Cousins threw for 509 yards and 4 TDs yesterday leading his Falcons to a 36-30 win over the Bucs
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Cousins has been underrated for years. I didn't expect much out of him when he left Michigan State but he has been pretty good.
After Bama beat #2 Georgia last week.
Just taking Bama and Vandy as brand names, most astonishing upset in a very long time. Bama has a very good team this year and this happened. I watched the 4th Quarter and still can't explain it. Bama is all 5 star and 4 star players; Vandy is mostly 3 star and 2 star players. Clark Lea must be one helluva coach.
Some Bama fans are entitled, trash-talking, arrogant jerks, and I can't imagine what they'll be saying on this Monday's Paul Finebaum show.
Quote: gordonm888Vanderbilt 40___ #1 Alabama 35
After Bama beat #2 Georgia last week.
Just taking Bama and Vandy as brand names, most astonishing upset in a very long time. Bama has a very good team this year and this happened. I watched the 4th Quarter and still can't explain it. Bama is all 5 star and 4 star players; Vandy is mostly 3 star and 2 star players. Clark Lea must be one helluva coach.
Some Bama fans are entitled, trash-talking, arrogant jerks, and I can't imagine what they'll be saying on this Monday's Paul Finebaum show.
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That may have saved Lea's job, He was 9 and 27 coming into this year and with a record like that you rarely get a fifth year.
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and wow - Kirk Cousins threw for 509 yards and 4 TDs yesterday leading his Falcons to a 36-30 win over the Bucs
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Cousins has been underrated for years. I didn't expect much out of him when he left Michigan State but he has been pretty good.
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He has definitely not been economically underrated.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/kirk-cousins-career-earnings-money-qb-contract/3e8bd09ed08dd7a7d22d1c79
Quote: billryanWhen a DI head coach gets let go with a 9-27 record, does he go back to being an assistant, or does he drop down to D2 as head coach? Is it possible for him to get another D1 HC job?
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I think most become D1 assistants. If they were at a major program they will probably get offered a HC job at a smaller program.
Quote: gordonm888Vanderbilt 40___ #1 Alabama 35
After Bama beat #2 Georgia last week.
Just taking Bama and Vandy as brand names, most astonishing upset in a very long time. Bama has a very good team this year and this happened. I watched the 4th Quarter and still can't explain it. Bama is all 5 star and 4 star players; Vandy is mostly 3 star and 2 star players. Clark Lea must be one helluva coach.
Some Bama fans are entitled, trash-talking, arrogant jerks, and I can't imagine what they'll be saying on this Monday's Paul Finebaum show.
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I agree huge upset. The only one that comes close is when App State beat Michigan.
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Quote: tuttigymQuote: gordonm888Vanderbilt 40___ #1 Alabama 35
After Bama beat #2 Georgia last week.
Just taking Bama and Vandy as brand names, most astonishing upset in a very long time. Bama has a very good team this year and this happened. I watched the 4th Quarter and still can't explain it. Bama is all 5 star and 4 star players; Vandy is mostly 3 star and 2 star players. Clark Lea must be one helluva coach.
Some Bama fans are entitled, trash-talking, arrogant jerks, and I can't imagine what they'll be saying on this Monday's Paul Finebaum show.
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I agree huge upset. The only one that comes close is when App State beat Michigan.
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I think when Stanford beat USC as a 36.5 point underdog was the biggest I remember. I layed the points.
Quote: DRichQuote: tuttigymQuote: gordonm888Vanderbilt 40___ #1 Alabama 35
After Bama beat #2 Georgia last week.
Just taking Bama and Vandy as brand names, most astonishing upset in a very long time. Bama has a very good team this year and this happened. I watched the 4th Quarter and still can't explain it. Bama is all 5 star and 4 star players; Vandy is mostly 3 star and 2 star players. Clark Lea must be one helluva coach.
Some Bama fans are entitled, trash-talking, arrogant jerks, and I can't imagine what they'll be saying on this Monday's Paul Finebaum show.
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I agree huge upset. The only one that comes close is when App State beat Michigan.
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I think when Stanford beat USC as a 36.5 point underdog was the biggest I remember. I layed the points.
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1. The 2007 upset of USC by Stanford: Stanford 24 -USC 23. USC was ranked #2 and was favored by 41 points.
USC entered the game with a 35-game home game winning streak (its previous home game loss also happened to be to Stanford, in 2001) which included a 24-game home game winning streak in Pac-10 play. By contrast, Stanford had compiled a Pac-10 worst 1–11 season in 2006, which included a 42–0 loss to USC. To compound the situation, Stanford's starting quarterback T. C. Ostrander had suffered a seizure the week before and his replacement, backup quarterback Tavita Pritchard, had never started a game and had thrown just three passes in official play.
2. The 2007 upset of Michigan by Appalachian State: Appalachian State 34, No. 5 Michigan 32. Michigan was ranked #5 in the Football Bowl Subdivision, App State was ranked #1 in the Football Championship Subdivision. The line on the game: Michigan was favored by 33 points. This was the first-ever game televised on the Big 10 Network and the first game of the season for the two schools.
When Michigan had a chip-shot field goal to win the game with six seconds left, and the dream looked doused, the Mountaineers’ surging defense blocked it.
The Appalachian State Mountaineers finished the 2007 season with a 13–2 record and won a third consecutive FCS title.
In 2019, Sports Illustrated voted this the greatest upset in college football history.
3. 2024 upset of Alabama by Vanderbilt: Vanderbilt 40 -Alabama 35. Alabama was favored by 22.5 points and was ranked #1. The previous week they had defeated #2 Georgia and they were 4-0 on the season entering the game.
Alabama vs. Vanderbilt money line: Alabama -2083, Vanderbilt +1013
Sources: various including Wikipedia, CBSSports
Quote: gordonm888Quote: DRichQuote: tuttigymQuote: gordonm888Vanderbilt 40___ #1 Alabama 35
After Bama beat #2 Georgia last week.
Just taking Bama and Vandy as brand names, most astonishing upset in a very long time. Bama has a very good team this year and this happened. I watched the 4th Quarter and still can't explain it. Bama is all 5 star and 4 star players; Vandy is mostly 3 star and 2 star players. Clark Lea must be one helluva coach.
Some Bama fans are entitled, trash-talking, arrogant jerks, and I can't imagine what they'll be saying on this Monday's Paul Finebaum show.
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I agree huge upset. The only one that comes close is when App State beat Michigan.
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I think when Stanford beat USC as a 36.5 point underdog was the biggest I remember. I layed the points.
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1. The 2007 upset of USC by Stanford: Stanford 24 -USC 23. USC was ranked #2 and was favored by 41 points.
USC entered the game with a 35-game home game winning streak (its previous home game loss also happened to be to Stanford, in 2001) which included a 24-game home game winning streak in Pac-10 play. By contrast, Stanford had compiled a Pac-10 worst 1–11 season in 2006, which included a 42–0 loss to USC. To compound the situation, Stanford's starting quarterback T. C. Ostrander had suffered a seizure the week before and his replacement, backup quarterback Tavita Pritchard, had never started a game and had thrown just three passes in official play.
2. The 2007 upset of Michigan by Appalachian State: Appalachian State 34, No. 5 Michigan 32. Michigan was ranked #5 in the Football Bowl Subdivision, App State was ranked #1 in the Football Championship Subdivision. The line on the game: Michigan was favored by 33 points. This was the first-ever game televised on the Big 10 Network and the first game of the season for the two schools.
When Michigan had a chip-shot field goal to win the game with six seconds left, and the dream looked doused, the Mountaineers’ surging defense blocked it.
The Appalachian State Mountaineers finished the 2007 season with a 13–2 record and won a third consecutive FCS title.
In 2019, Sports Illustrated voted this the greatest upset in college football history.
3. 2024 upset of Alabama by Vanderbilt: Vanderbilt 40 -Alabama 35. Alabama was favored by 22.5 points and was ranked #1. The previous week they had defeated #2 Georgia and they were 4-0 on the season entering the game.
Alabama vs. Vanderbilt money line: Alabama -2083, Vanderbilt +1013
Sources: various including Wikipedia, CBSSports
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Does anyone know what the opening line was? 22 points sounds low.
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Does anyone know what the opening line was? 22 points sounds low.
I believe it opened around 24 and went down a little.
was thinking of some of the no name greats I encountered on DC area playgrounds in my hoops playing days
of all of them the most amazing was "Chicken Breast" Willie Lee - r.i.p.
they called him "Chicken Breast" because his chest seemed to stick out
he was only about 6'2" but he could stand under the basket jump up and ferociously dunk from a standstill like Wilt Chamberlain - seriously - it was unreal - shocking
you would just watch in disbelief
I googled and actually found an article about him which I enjoyed reading immensely - see link
he never went further than h.s. because of personal issues
from the article - there was a legend about him that he would pick quarters off the top of the backboard which is about 13 feet up
but Chicken Breast corrected the writer - he says he could only go about about halfway from the top of the square to the top of the backboard -
so he could only go about 12.5 feet up________________________(-:/
http://www.dcbasketball.com/man-called-chicken-breast.php
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A deliberate penalty by the coach may have been the difference in a win or loss. Today, the rules committee changed the rules to allow the opposing coach to put the time back on the clock if it happens again. I enjoy seeing coaches outsmart the system.
That it was against Ohio St was even sweeter
Quote: DRichI don't know how many of you watched the Oregon vs Ohio State game but the Oregon coach made a brilliant decision on the second to last play of the game. With 10 seconds left Ohio State had the ball around midfield down by one point with one timeout. The oregon coach deliberately put too many players on the field for the play. The play was ran and Oregon was penalized. By having too many men on the field Oregon was able to defend the play but did receive a penalty. The brilliant part was the coach assumed he could defend the play with the extra players but get a 5 yard penalty. By only costing themselves 5 yards Oregon ran 4 seconds off of the clock which resulted in a distance too long for a field goal but only leaving time for one more play. Ohio state ran a running play for about 15 yards to get within field goal range but the clock ran out.
A deliberate penalty by the coach may have been the difference in a win or loss. Today, the rules committee changed the rules to allow the opposing coach to put the time back on the clock if it happens again. I enjoy seeing coaches outsmart the system.
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I would have done this for decades now. I was calling for teams to put TWENTY men on the field in such situations. Why only 12?
The NFL prevented this by having the refs call the penalty before the snap in similar situations, thus giving the offensive team 5 yards with no time off the clock.
The other similar situation….. offensive team needs a long play…. 10-15 seconds remaining…. Have defensive players hold ALL receivers immediately and don’t let go. QB will waste 5-10 seconds until either sacked or he runs. Clock runs out. They do get one untimed play, but not the two or three needed to get into field goal range, a la the Bills ‘13 seconds’ fiasco.
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The other similar situation….. offensive team needs a long play…. 10-15 seconds remaining…. Have defensive players hold ALL receivers immediately and don’t let go. QB will waste 5-10 seconds until either sacked or he runs. Clock runs out. They do get one untimed play, but not the two or three needed to get into field goal range, a la the Bills ‘13 seconds’ fiasco.
Yes, the intentional holding is a similar situation. I have seen teams do that numerous times.
Quote: billryanIt was brilliant.
That it was against Ohio St was even sweeter
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Blasphemy! How can you not root for a team that has a mascot that is a seed.
Quote: DRichQuote: billryanIt was brilliant.
That it was against Ohio St was even sweeter
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Blasphemy! How can you not root for a team that has a mascot that is a seed.
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Woody Hayes
Quote: billryanQuote: DRichQuote: billryanIt was brilliant.
That it was against Ohio St was even sweeter
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Blasphemy! How can you not root for a team that has a mascot that is a seed.
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Woody Hayes
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The man has been dead for 37 years and you still hold one little transgression against him?
Quote: DRichQuote: billryanQuote: DRichQuote: billryanIt was brilliant.
That it was against Ohio St was even sweeter
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Blasphemy! How can you not root for a team that has a mascot that is a seed.
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Woody Hayes
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The man has been dead for 37 years and you still hold one little transgression against him?
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I might forgive him 37 years after I'm dead.
Quote: SOOPOOI had a golf round recently where I parted all 4 par 3’s. That’s 4 ‘3’s on my scorecard. Taylor Pendrith outdid me today. He had TWELVE 3’s. If you are a casual golfer you know how insane that is. He shot a 61 without a birdie on a single par 3.
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Congrats on those par 3s. Hopefully the rest of the holes were not too bad. I am pretty sure that I never did that. I have had 5's on all of the par 3's before.
Quote: SOOPOOI had a golf round recently where I parted all 4 par 3’s. That’s 4 ‘3’s on my scorecard. Taylor Pendrith outdid me today. He had TWELVE 3’s. If you are a casual golfer you know how insane that is. He shot a 61 without a birdie on a single par 3.
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Did one of those Par 3's have a T-Rex on it?
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Quote: tuttigymQuote: SOOPOOI had a golf round recently where I parted all 4 par 3’s. That’s 4 ‘3’s on my scorecard. Taylor Pendrith outdid me today. He had TWELVE 3’s. If you are a casual golfer you know how insane that is. He shot a 61 without a birdie on a single par 3.
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Did one of those Par 3's have a T-Rex on it?
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I haven’t played mini golf in a LONG time. I probably par most par 3’s 1/3 of the time. Maybe 1/2.
Quote: DRichAnybody else watching college football? Army and Navy are both undefeated at this point for the first time since WWII. They are both ranked in the top 25 for the first time in over 60 years.. Navy is more a finesse team while Army is more of a ground and pound physical team. If somehow they could both stay unbeaten until they play each other it will cause a real conundrum for the football playoffs. The winner of that game would be the deserving Group of five team with an automatic bid. The problem is that the playoff teams are supposed to be announced before that game with the playoff the following week. I guess they could just say that the winner of that game will be the playoff team but is that fair to their opponent if the other teams know who they will play ahead of time but one team won't?
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Other than you, no one would care if their opponent has to wait a few days to find out if they are playing Army or Navy. NO ONE.
I have a friend, ex-Navy, who has gone to ‘the big game’ in the past. I wonder if he is considering it this year?!?
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichAnybody else watching college football? Army and Navy are both undefeated at this point for the first time since WWII. They are both ranked in the top 25 for the first time in over 60 years.. Navy is more a finesse team while Army is more of a ground and pound physical team. If somehow they could both stay unbeaten until they play each other it will cause a real conundrum for the football playoffs. The winner of that game would be the deserving Group of five team with an automatic bid. The problem is that the playoff teams are supposed to be announced before that game with the playoff the following week. I guess they could just say that the winner of that game will be the playoff team but is that fair to their opponent if the other teams know who they will play ahead of time but one team won't?
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Other than you, no one would care if their opponent has to wait a few days to find out if they are playing Army or Navy. NO ONE.
I have a friend, ex-Navy, who has gone to ‘the big game’ in the past. I wonder if he is considering it this year?!?
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Obviously it is just unfair that they would have less time to practice for their opponent while other teams will have more time. Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia might need those extra days to prepare.
It is a very unlikely scenario anyways.
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That it was against Ohio St was even sweeter
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Blasphemy! How can you not root for a team that has a mascot that is a seed.
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Woody Hayes
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The man has been dead for 37 years and you still hold one little transgression against him?
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I might forgive him 37 years after I'm dead.
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We must forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.
Quote: SOOPOOI had a golf round recently where I parted all 4 par 3’s. That’s 4 ‘3’s on my scorecard. Taylor Pendrith outdid me today. He had TWELVE 3’s. If you are a casual golfer you know how insane that is. He shot a 61 without a birdie on a single par 3.
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This reminded me of something along similar lines in candlepin bowling.
One time I bowled a 100 without getting a strike or a spare on all ten frames. That’s not easy to do.
If you have never bowled candlepin it’s quite different than ten pin.
During this break, the refs reversed the call and gave Texas the ball! I have never seen anything like this before. Since pass interference is not reviewable, I don't understand how they could reverse the call. They even had marked the ball for play for the Georgia offense. If they had run up and snapped the ball, they would have kept possession!
So, basically, the home crowd didn't like a call that went against their team, threw a tantrum, and then got their way because of it! An interesting precedent to set.
Around the 1:41 mark, you can even hear Chris Fowler mention that it was "stupid" for a fan to throw a beer can onto the field. As it turns out, that was a very smart decision as it led to reversing the call!
Quote: JoemanDid anyone see the Texas Georgia game Saturday night?
Of course, I watched it. I don't believe the call was reversed, I believe the ref changed his mind and waived off his flag. Honestly, I think the final call was the correct call but obviously the way the scenario was handled was terrible.
Quote: DRichQuote: JoemanDid anyone see the Texas Georgia game Saturday night?
Of course, I watched it. I don't believe the call was reversed, I believe the ref changed his mind and waived off his flag. Honestly, I think the final call was the correct call but obviously the way the scenario was handled was terrible.
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Ditto. I only saw the clip provided here, but a bad call was corrected.
Yes, but he did it after announcing the penalty and spotting the ball for play. I have of course seen the ref wave off a flag, but I have never seen one, after conferring with the other officials, announce the penalty, mark off the yardage, mark the ball for play, wind the clock, and then change his mind and declare the penalty didn't happen.Quote: DRichQuote: JoemanDid anyone see the Texas Georgia game Saturday night?
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If the Texas crowd hadn't thrown enough debris on the field to cause the game to be stopped, Georgia would have retained possession. Like I said, this sets the precedent that if fans don't agree with a call, they should throw garbage onto the field, and the refs might change the call.
The regular season NCAA is almost an exhibition season played for entertainment. Georgia and Bama can lose three or four games and be in the playoffs.
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. Georgia and Bama can lose three or four games and be in the playoffs.
Three maybe, not four.
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. Georgia and Bama can lose three or four games and be in the playoffs.
Three maybe, not four.
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We'll see. I honestly don't care. NILs and the transfer portal were the bridges that were too far for me.
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. Georgia and Bama can lose three or four games and be in the playoffs.
Three maybe, not four.
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We'll see. I honestly don't care. NILs and the transfer portal were the bridges that were too far for me.
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It is unlikely Alabama will get in with three losses because they all be SEC losses and most likely there will be 5 teams with better records in the SEC. The SEC is guaranteed one playoff spot so getting six in would be very unlikely.
many have called this the greatest round of boxing of all time - Irish Mickey Ward vs. Arturo Gatti - first fight - round 9
it's certainly the greatest round that I've ever seen
Gatti goes down early in the round from a vicious body shot
the commentators speculate that he's finished, that he won't be able to continue
this duo put on a fantastic trilogy of fights with Ward winning 2 out of 3 - all 3 fights went the distance - no knockouts
sadly, after retiring, Arturo Gatti committed suicide
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many have called this the greatest round of boxing of all time - Irish Mickey Ward vs. Arturo Gatti - first fight - round 9
The greatest fight I remember was probably about 10 years ago and I don't remember their names. They were two lightweights or middle weights and there were 10 knockdowns. One fighter was knocked down six times and the other fighter was knocked down four times. The one knocked down six times won the fight.
