WoV Picks Game 2013 (Discussion Thread)
September 15th, 2013 at 12:26:41 AM
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Typo observed. JohnZimbo's final pick just says "3."
September 15th, 2013 at 12:28:13 AM
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Quote: EdCollinsTypo observed. JohnZimbo's final pick just says "3."
Thanks, probably a copy/paste error.
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September 15th, 2013 at 12:31:21 AM
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I found it, he early-picked, so I had to fill in the lines. He just picked the teams. Sometimes when you start typing on a line that already has something on it, it deletes whatever was on it before. I think I have to double-click where I want to start typing first.
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September 15th, 2013 at 12:39:54 AM
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Top Consensus: 22 selections for the Colts against the Dolphins. Wow.
Since I'm not one of them I guess that means I'm rooting for Miami!
Since I'm not one of them I guess that means I'm rooting for Miami!
September 15th, 2013 at 1:25:36 AM
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It looks like we already lost one player. (Unless he is already taking his skip week.) I see no picks for MinnesotaJoe.
Since he went 0-5 last week, maybe he already lost interest.
Glad to have Jon and SteelDCo aboard.
Since he went 0-5 last week, maybe he already lost interest.
Glad to have Jon and SteelDCo aboard.
September 15th, 2013 at 5:14:57 AM
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Ed Collins, you picked both Arizona and Detroit in your week 2 picks. They're playing each other.
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September 15th, 2013 at 6:43:17 AM
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Quote: boymimboEd Collins, you picked both Arizona and Detroit in your week 2 picks. They're playing each other.
Sounds like a sure win to me ;-)
September 15th, 2013 at 7:47:13 AM
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EdCollins Double Pick
The Rule Addendum calls for a double-loss for Doey-Don't record protection. Although, it's pretty early in the game, so my inclination is to call it an honest mistake. At the same time, I really can't outright refuse to adhere to a Rule that I created.
This is what I am going to do, I want to put it up to a vote, we'll either give EdCollins two losses or two No Decisions for those two Picks, the first three to vote one way or another take it.
I vote Two No Decisions, so that's 1-0 in favor of No Decisions, thus far.
EDIT: Simply put, he has a losing record, ATM, so I don't believe he was trying to protect a losing record. It would have to be a ND rather than 1-1, because 1-1 would be an inequitable improvement on his current record, by necessity, and the double ND has no effect.
The Rule Addendum calls for a double-loss for Doey-Don't record protection. Although, it's pretty early in the game, so my inclination is to call it an honest mistake. At the same time, I really can't outright refuse to adhere to a Rule that I created.
This is what I am going to do, I want to put it up to a vote, we'll either give EdCollins two losses or two No Decisions for those two Picks, the first three to vote one way or another take it.
I vote Two No Decisions, so that's 1-0 in favor of No Decisions, thus far.
EDIT: Simply put, he has a losing record, ATM, so I don't believe he was trying to protect a losing record. It would have to be a ND rather than 1-1, because 1-1 would be an inequitable improvement on his current record, by necessity, and the double ND has no effect.
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September 15th, 2013 at 7:58:05 AM
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Quote: Mission146EdCollins Double Pick
The Rule Addendum calls for a double-loss for Doey-Don't record protection. Although, it's pretty early in the game, so my inclination is to call it an honest mistake. At the same time, I really can't outright refuse to adhere to a Rule that I created.
This is what I am going to do, I want to put it up to a vote, we'll either give EdCollins two losses or two No Decisions for those two Picks, the first three to vote one way or another take it.
I vote Two No Decisions, so that's 1-0 in favor of No Decisions, thus far.
EDIT: Simply put, he has a losing record, ATM, so I don't believe he was trying to protect a losing record. It would have to be a ND rather than 1-1, because 1-1 would be an inequitable improvement on his current record, by necessity, and the double ND has no effect.
Sunday morning... 7:55 am!
Oh, for Pete's sake! I can't believe I did that!! LOL.
Good eye. I might not have caught it until game time... or soon thereafter.
Well, let me know what the decision is. :(
September 15th, 2013 at 7:59:09 AM
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If you're still on right now, go ahead and switch one Pick or the other to something else. It's technically a late Pick, but given the circumstances, I'll allow for a late Pick in this case.
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September 15th, 2013 at 7:59:48 AM
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I vote no decisions. I would believe that it's just an honest mistake.
DO NOT blindly accept what has been spoken.
DO NOT blindly accept what has been written.
Think. Assess. Lead. DO NOT blindly follow.
September 15th, 2013 at 8:00:41 AM
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According to my notes, I really wanted Detroit.
Not sure how Arizona ever got in there.
Not sure how Arizona ever got in there.
September 15th, 2013 at 8:01:45 AM
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I also want to publicly state that it is just as much my fault for not catching it early (i.e. at all).
I would have usually caught something like this, but I was so focused on not screwing up putting the Picks into the program that I basically made no effort whatsoever to verify that the Picks made sense. EdCollins also got his Picks in plenty early, so it really should have been caught by me.
I apologize to EdCollins and everyone else for the inconvenience.
I would have usually caught something like this, but I was so focused on not screwing up putting the Picks into the program that I basically made no effort whatsoever to verify that the Picks made sense. EdCollins also got his Picks in plenty early, so it really should have been caught by me.
I apologize to EdCollins and everyone else for the inconvenience.
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September 15th, 2013 at 8:03:36 AM
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Quote: EdCollinsTypo observed. JohnZimbo's final pick just says "3."
Hey! Quit worrying about what JohnZimbo's doing and make sure you don't have contradictory Picks!
J/K
That really is just a joke, you seem like a guy who has a pleasant demeanor and good sense of humor, so I figured I could get away with that one.
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September 15th, 2013 at 8:04:43 AM
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Quote: EdCollinsAccording to my notes, I really wanted Detroit.
Not sure how Arizona ever got in there.
That works, it's still before game time, so let's just resolve it that way. Your Pick is Detroit, and you make only four Picks this week.
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September 15th, 2013 at 8:09:46 AM
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Quote: Mission146That works, it's still before game time, so let's just resolve it that way. Your Pick is Detroit, and you make only four Picks this week.
Okay, thanks. That seems fair to me.
Go Lions!
Gonna modify my program so that it checks for this. (It already checks for two confidence picks, but not opposing teams.)
Also need to modify that it's possible for a player to have just four picks, instead of five, in case something like this happens to someone else down the road. I think it's specifically always looking for five picks from everyone right now. To fix it now, I have to change my "cardinals +1" to something it doesn't recognize at all, like "dlfjslfjslfs"
September 15th, 2013 at 8:12:28 AM
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Quote: Mission146Hey! Quit worrying about what JohnZimbo's doing and make sure you don't have contradictory Picks!
J/K
That really is just a joke, you seem like a guy who has a pleasant demeanor and good sense of humor, so I figured I could get away with that one.
LOL. Actually, my program caught that typo, not me.... because his pick was highlighted in blue! The program didn't recognize it or know what it was, and when that happens, it changes the font to blue, knowing it can't grade it, to alert the user.
September 15th, 2013 at 8:18:35 AM
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I remember reading a discussion awhile back that I could relate to. It involved this scenario: You make a bet on a team but before game time you lose the ticket! Do you now (1) root for the other team, so that your lost ticket becomes worthless, or do you (2) go ahead and root for the original team anyway?
According to my notes, I also liked the Raiders this week, especially at +6, against Jacksonville. Since I didn't pick them, it seems likely I got them mixed up, somehow, with the Cardinals. (That game is directly underneath the other game, so that seems about as likely as an explanation as anything.)
So I have to put my own question to myself. Should I now root for the Raiders or the Jaguars? :)
According to my notes, I also liked the Raiders this week, especially at +6, against Jacksonville. Since I didn't pick them, it seems likely I got them mixed up, somehow, with the Cardinals. (That game is directly underneath the other game, so that seems about as likely as an explanation as anything.)
So I have to put my own question to myself. Should I now root for the Raiders or the Jaguars? :)
September 15th, 2013 at 8:42:29 AM
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I think Mission made the right decision, especially since Ed agrees it was fair. However, I myself would have given Ed a Mulligan because it was caught and corrected before game time, and the program didn't have the doey/don't instruction to alert you. I'd probably have been wrong because it could have caused grumbling and discontent for someone else. (Rules are rules). So I'm glad it's Mission as commissioner and not me! King Solomon didn't have nuttin' on you, Pierce.
Looks like I'm really out there with my confidence pick on the Pack. How many people took that one the other direction? I haven't counted. Yikes! (I don't think GB's going to win this either; I just don't think it will be a blowout. Obviously I could be wrong.)
Looks like I'm really out there with my confidence pick on the Pack. How many people took that one the other direction? I haven't counted. Yikes! (I don't think GB's going to win this either; I just don't think it will be a blowout. Obviously I could be wrong.)
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 15th, 2013 at 9:32:29 AM
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My vote with Ed is that you mark him out of 5 with 4 picks (best 4 of 5), rather than have him have the opportunity to only pick 4 games.
There were 13 votes for Washington - Green Bay. 13 picked Washington. An amazing number of you (21 votes (double for confidence) took action on the Manning Bowl III (15-6), but even more of you took action on Indianapolis (22-3) probably because the line moved to -2.5. I think most people took the Redskins because the line moved from 9.5 to 7.5.
Mission, can you check KeyserSore's pick vs the Wizards. They are beside each other in the order and they have the SAME picks (Wizard picks Panthers in Confidence is the only difference).
There were 13 votes for Washington - Green Bay. 13 picked Washington. An amazing number of you (21 votes (double for confidence) took action on the Manning Bowl III (15-6), but even more of you took action on Indianapolis (22-3) probably because the line moved to -2.5. I think most people took the Redskins because the line moved from 9.5 to 7.5.
Mission, can you check KeyserSore's pick vs the Wizards. They are beside each other in the order and they have the SAME picks (Wizard picks Panthers in Confidence is the only difference).
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September 15th, 2013 at 9:38:08 AM
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Quote: EdCollins
Go Lions!
I concur... :D
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 15th, 2013 at 11:52:34 AM
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Unbelievable. My CBS affiliate (Orlando) is carrying the Jacksonville game by contract (all Jax away games due to proximity) rather than the Manning Bowl. They're already running a streamer under the early game apologizing for it. The complaints must be coming in by the thousands.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 15th, 2013 at 12:14:40 PM
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" Obviously I could be wrong. " DUH !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
September 15th, 2013 at 12:19:27 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsUnbelievable. My CBS affiliate (Orlando) is carrying the Jacksonville game by contract (all Jax away games due to proximity) rather than the Manning Bowl. They're already running a streamer under the early game apologizing for it. The complaints must be coming in by the thousands.
try this link to watch football on the internet. Not the greatest quality but watchable.
http://www.azzavnfl.net/
I'm in Tampa, just got 1 game on TV now, Colts Dolphins, but also watching Ravens Browns on my laptop using the link. Our 4pm game is of course the Bucs Saints(1st time in years we get a home game on TV due to rare sellout here) so will watch Manning bowl on laptop.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
September 15th, 2013 at 1:28:03 PM
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Yikes. 18-3 losers in the Colts - Dolphins game.
Yikes. 13-1 losers in the Redskins - Packers game.
No real money won this weekend. ($20 lost).
Yikes. 13-1 losers in the Redskins - Packers game.
No real money won this weekend. ($20 lost).
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September 15th, 2013 at 2:04:59 PM
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Quote: Buzzard" Obviously I could be wrong. " DUH !
HEEheeheeheeHEE....so far, so good. (commence Snidely Whiplash rubbing of hands)
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 15th, 2013 at 6:57:57 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsUnbelievable. My CBS affiliate (Orlando) is carrying the Jacksonville game by contract (all Jax away games due to proximity) rather than the Manning Bowl. They're already running a streamer under the early game apologizing for it. The complaints must be coming in by the thousands.
That apology from the station made the news:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/orlando-station-apologizes-having-show-jacksonville-jaguars-game-175955359--nfl.html
September 15th, 2013 at 8:27:22 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsHEEheeheeheeHEE....so far, so good. (commence Snidely Whiplash rubbing of hands)
My sentiments exactly. I will so enjoy that $20.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
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Tis but the casket
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The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
September 15th, 2013 at 9:26:23 PM
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A marked improvement over last week for me. 2-3 to put my overall at 2-8. Creeping back towards that 500 mark, just need to go 6-0 next week and I'll be set! Anyone go 0-5 or 0-6 after going winless last week?
September 15th, 2013 at 9:28:14 PM
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i made a marked turn around- last week went 1-5 and this week went 4-1
"Although men flatter themselves with their great actions, they are not so often the result of a great design as of chance." - Francois De La Rochefoucauld
September 15th, 2013 at 9:48:03 PM
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Quote: duckmankillaA marked improvement over last week for me. 2-3 to put my overall at 2-8. Creeping back towards that 500 mark, just need to go 6-0 next week and I'll be set! Anyone go 0-5 or 0-6 after going winless last week?
Yea, that's how I feel! One good week away from being right back in it!
It's still early.
No, everyone seems to have at least one win. NCFatCat and RDW4POTUS are starting off slow.
Overall, as a group, we're not doing very well. So far you want to fade the group.
No one has Cincinnati tomorrow, and a few have Pittsburgh, so if you're not one who does, then you're rooting for the Bengals.
September 16th, 2013 at 4:22:17 AM
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Duckman, NCFatCat, and RDW4POTUS are all 2 and 8 and occupy the bottom of the pool for now. MinnesotaJoe did not have picks this week and is still 0-5. SOOPOO might take last place with a Cincinnati win (by 8 or more) tonight with a record of 2-10.
AyeCarumba is 8-3, MidwestAP is 6-2, and Buzzard is 7-3.
AyeCarumba is 8-3, MidwestAP is 6-2, and Buzzard is 7-3.
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September 16th, 2013 at 6:51:36 AM
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Quote: EdCollinsLOL. Actually, my program caught that typo, not me.... because his pick was highlighted in blue! The program didn't recognize it or know what it was, and when that happens, it changes the font to blue, knowing it can't grade it, to alert the user.
I didn't even know it did that...lol...I was just trying to put them all in correctly!
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September 16th, 2013 at 6:52:17 AM
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Quote: boymimboDuckman, NCFatCat, and RDW4POTUS are all 2 and 8 and occupy the bottom of the pool for now. MinnesotaJoe did not have picks this week and is still 0-5. SOOPOO might take last place with a Cincinnati win (by 8 or more) tonight with a record of 2-10.
AyeCarumba is 8-3, MidwestAP is 6-2, and Buzzard is 7-3.
yep, the battle for the basement is always interesting too. I'm a contender!
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September 16th, 2013 at 6:54:43 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsI think Mission made the right decision, especially since Ed agrees it was fair...So I'm glad it's Mission as commissioner and not me! King Solomon didn't have nuttin' on you, Pierce.
I appreciate the compliment, BeachBumBabs, but I don't think King Solomon's Picks would be 1-3 going into the Monday night game.
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September 16th, 2013 at 6:57:30 AM
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Quote: boymimbo
Mission, can you check KeyserSore's pick vs the Wizards. They are beside each other in the order and they have the SAME picks (Wizard picks Panthers in Confidence is the only difference).
Verified and correct. They happen to be next to one another because KeyserSoze's PM was the one I got immediately after The Wizard's. Interesting coincidence, but yes, the CP was the only difference. They even picked the teams in the same order, except they formatted them differently.
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September 16th, 2013 at 7:01:23 AM
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Quote: Mission146Verified and correct. They happen to be next to one another because KeyserSoze's PM was the one I got immediately after The Wizard's. Interesting coincidence, but yes, the CP was the only difference. They even picked the teams in the same order, except they formatted them differently.
I also noticed we had the same picks. I don't think its a coincidence. Great minds think alike, I guess.
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September 16th, 2013 at 7:03:40 AM
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Quote: Mission146Verified and correct. They happen to be next to one another because KeyserSoze's PM was the one I got immediately after The Wizard's. Interesting coincidence, but yes, the CP was the only difference. They even picked the teams in the same order, except they formatted them differently.
The funny thing is I was also going to use the Panthers as a confidence pick, but forgot. I was going to send another PM but didn't want to confuse matters.
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September 16th, 2013 at 8:18:05 AM
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Been moving this weekend, catching up on missing 2 weeks at CMU, 12 credit load. No excuses, but Mission can verify first time ever I was not the first person to post his /her picks.
So I will stand by my slow start of 7-3. I can only improve from here. Still moving today. Be back later to check on Green Bay fans.
Who was first player cut by Vince Lombardi ? He went on be be a champion in another sport.
So I will stand by my slow start of 7-3. I can only improve from here. Still moving today. Be back later to check on Green Bay fans.
Who was first player cut by Vince Lombardi ? He went on be be a champion in another sport.
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the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
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Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
September 16th, 2013 at 8:22:24 AM
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Quote: BuzzardBeen moving this weekend, catching up on missing 2 weeks at CMU, 12 credit load. No excuses, but Mission can verify first time ever I was not the first person to post his /her picks.
Yes and no, I can verify that this was the first week Buzzard did not have his picks in first, with exception to those occasions where players picked in the dark. We had two players with other engagements this week who did not want to use this as a Skip week and picked in the dark. One of those two players actually picked in the dark quite frequently last year.
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September 16th, 2013 at 9:48:22 AM
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Well crud. I thought I understood how to bet the line, but I made an expensive mistake; I thought the Bears would win but by less than the line. Just in case anybody else is confused (and I well could be the only one) I'm going to try to detail my error here. I thought the +- with respect to the home team meant the home team (Bears) was favored to win or lose by that amount. The line on the Vikings/Bears published here was -6.5, which meant that the Vikings were +6.5 (favored by slightly less than a touchdown, but the visiting team). That's not correct; to beat the line, the Bears had to win by a touchdown or more; I should have bet the Vikings. In the sports books, according to what I'm reading, (newbie) they post the opposing teams on 2 lines, with the odds next to the team that's favored, just to avoid this type of confusion, but then how does it ever show up as + on the same line as the team? I'm going to go back and re-read Mission's posts about how it's supposed to work on a single-line quote, because if I lose one, I would like to do it because I called the game wrong, not because I didn't understand the format of the line. All I know is I have no confidence in my understanding of how these are structured, but I'm going to examine it more closely and see if I can't straighten myself out. Sheesh.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 16th, 2013 at 10:00:14 AM
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When Mission posted the line it read as
"9/15/13 Minnesota Vikings +6.5 Chicago Bears -6.5 O/U 42"
That's the same as
Minnesota Vikings +6.5
Chicago Bears -6.5
In either case it means that Chicago is favored by 6.5 points so if you are betting Chicago then the Bears need to win by a touchdown (plus extra point) or more. Otherwise Vikings win.
"9/15/13 Minnesota Vikings +6.5 Chicago Bears -6.5 O/U 42"
That's the same as
Minnesota Vikings +6.5
Chicago Bears -6.5
In either case it means that Chicago is favored by 6.5 points so if you are betting Chicago then the Bears need to win by a touchdown (plus extra point) or more. Otherwise Vikings win.
September 16th, 2013 at 10:04:04 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsLooks like I'm really out there with my confidence pick on the Pack. How many people took that one the other direction? I haven't counted. Yikes! (I don't think GB's going to win this either; I just don't think it will be a blowout. Obviously I could be wrong.)
Ah, this quote now makes sense, given your confusion with how NFL lines work.
If you didn't think GB was going to win, then you really wanted to bet on Washington, and take the 9.5 points.
If you take the favored team, your team must win by the spread, (or more) in order for you to win.
If you take the underdog, your team must lose by less than the spread (or win outright) in order for you to win.
I hope that makes sense. An example may help clarify:
When you took GB, the favorite, you're saying not only would they win, they would win by 10 points or more.
And yes, when you took the Bears, the favorite, you're saying not only would they win they would win by 7 points or more.
September 16th, 2013 at 11:07:03 AM
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Thanks, guys! Not totally sure I've got it yet, but I'm testing myself on the stats the last two weeks until I see the pattern in all permutations. Overcoming bad learning is MUCH harder for me than learning something new. Lol at me re: Ed's remark; at least I'm being consistent in my wrongheadedness.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 16th, 2013 at 11:13:23 AM
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Perhaps instead of patterns and permutation, the simple application of combinatorics might provide a better result.
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the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
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Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
September 16th, 2013 at 11:19:16 AM
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Perhaps. I've not tried to present myself as a peer on any part of this forum, more as a student of gaming math. Errors equal opportunities for learning. It's up to me whether to beat myself up over it or learn something and move on, which is what I'm doing. And, assuming positive intent in your post, I will indeed explore that particular branch as a suggestion of a better way of doing things.
Conceptually, what I'm gathering is that the - means the game is in a team's favor, and so the 0-0 win/lose point is moved accordingly. The + means a team is given a handicap of sorts, like in golf; they can still lose, but move the line and they win the bet. Still refining my understanding.
Conceptually, what I'm gathering is that the - means the game is in a team's favor, and so the 0-0 win/lose point is moved accordingly. The + means a team is given a handicap of sorts, like in golf; they can still lose, but move the line and they win the bet. Still refining my understanding.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 16th, 2013 at 11:19:18 AM
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BeachBumBabs,
The easiest way to think of a betting line such as:
DET +3 v. DEN -3
Is to imagine if the game started, prior to kickoff, with Detroit leading Denver 3-0 and asking yourself who would win the game. If you think Denver would still win, then you like Broncos -3, if you think Detroit would win if they got to start with a 3-0 lead before kickoff, then you like Detroit +3. If you find it difficult to pick a team you like in this scenario, and you will more often than not, then you wouldn't pick that game either way.
The easiest way to think of a betting line such as:
DET +3 v. DEN -3
Is to imagine if the game started, prior to kickoff, with Detroit leading Denver 3-0 and asking yourself who would win the game. If you think Denver would still win, then you like Broncos -3, if you think Detroit would win if they got to start with a 3-0 lead before kickoff, then you like Detroit +3. If you find it difficult to pick a team you like in this scenario, and you will more often than not, then you wouldn't pick that game either way.
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September 16th, 2013 at 11:22:27 AM
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" assuming positive intent in your post " Why would you do something like that ? Do you think I know what the hell Combinatorics even is ?
I apologize. It's not easy being me.
I apologize. It's not easy being me.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
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September 16th, 2013 at 11:28:57 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsThe + means a team is given a handicap of sorts, like in golf; they can still lose, but move the line and they win the bet.
Exactly.
Final Score: GB 38, Washington 20
Line: Washington +9.5
Adjusted Score: GB 38, Washington 29.5
GB wins. (In this case the favorite covered.)
Final Score: Chicago 31, Minnesota 30
Line: Minnesota +6.5
Adjusted Score: Chicago 31, Minnesota 36.5
Minnesota wins. (In this case the favorite didn't cover. Chicago won the game, but not by the spread, so bets on Minnesota win.)
September 16th, 2013 at 12:47:33 PM
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Click! That rearranged the brain cells, Ed and Mission! Thank you! I was playing the line backwards.
BTW, all's cool with me and Buzz...he was not taking a shot, apology not necessary but accepted (I'll put it in the apology bank, or he can put it back in his pocket and use it on someone else some time, his choice).
BTW, all's cool with me and Buzz...he was not taking a shot, apology not necessary but accepted (I'll put it in the apology bank, or he can put it back in his pocket and use it on someone else some time, his choice).
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
