Quote: EdCollinsTypo observed. JohnZimbo's final pick just says "3."
Thanks, probably a copy/paste error.
Since I'm not one of them I guess that means I'm rooting for Miami!
Since he went 0-5 last week, maybe he already lost interest.
Glad to have Jon and SteelDCo aboard.
Quote: boymimboEd Collins, you picked both Arizona and Detroit in your week 2 picks. They're playing each other.
Sounds like a sure win to me ;-)
The Rule Addendum calls for a double-loss for Doey-Don't record protection. Although, it's pretty early in the game, so my inclination is to call it an honest mistake. At the same time, I really can't outright refuse to adhere to a Rule that I created.
This is what I am going to do, I want to put it up to a vote, we'll either give EdCollins two losses or two No Decisions for those two Picks, the first three to vote one way or another take it.
I vote Two No Decisions, so that's 1-0 in favor of No Decisions, thus far.
EDIT: Simply put, he has a losing record, ATM, so I don't believe he was trying to protect a losing record. It would have to be a ND rather than 1-1, because 1-1 would be an inequitable improvement on his current record, by necessity, and the double ND has no effect.
Quote: Mission146EdCollins Double Pick
The Rule Addendum calls for a double-loss for Doey-Don't record protection. Although, it's pretty early in the game, so my inclination is to call it an honest mistake. At the same time, I really can't outright refuse to adhere to a Rule that I created.
This is what I am going to do, I want to put it up to a vote, we'll either give EdCollins two losses or two No Decisions for those two Picks, the first three to vote one way or another take it.
I vote Two No Decisions, so that's 1-0 in favor of No Decisions, thus far.
EDIT: Simply put, he has a losing record, ATM, so I don't believe he was trying to protect a losing record. It would have to be a ND rather than 1-1, because 1-1 would be an inequitable improvement on his current record, by necessity, and the double ND has no effect.
Sunday morning... 7:55 am!
Oh, for Pete's sake! I can't believe I did that!! LOL.
Good eye. I might not have caught it until game time... or soon thereafter.
Well, let me know what the decision is. :(
Not sure how Arizona ever got in there.
I would have usually caught something like this, but I was so focused on not screwing up putting the Picks into the program that I basically made no effort whatsoever to verify that the Picks made sense. EdCollins also got his Picks in plenty early, so it really should have been caught by me.
I apologize to EdCollins and everyone else for the inconvenience.
Quote: EdCollinsTypo observed. JohnZimbo's final pick just says "3."
Hey! Quit worrying about what JohnZimbo's doing and make sure you don't have contradictory Picks!
J/K
That really is just a joke, you seem like a guy who has a pleasant demeanor and good sense of humor, so I figured I could get away with that one.
Quote: EdCollinsAccording to my notes, I really wanted Detroit.
Not sure how Arizona ever got in there.
That works, it's still before game time, so let's just resolve it that way. Your Pick is Detroit, and you make only four Picks this week.
Quote: Mission146That works, it's still before game time, so let's just resolve it that way. Your Pick is Detroit, and you make only four Picks this week.
Okay, thanks. That seems fair to me.
Go Lions!
Gonna modify my program so that it checks for this. (It already checks for two confidence picks, but not opposing teams.)
Also need to modify that it's possible for a player to have just four picks, instead of five, in case something like this happens to someone else down the road. I think it's specifically always looking for five picks from everyone right now. To fix it now, I have to change my "cardinals +1" to something it doesn't recognize at all, like "dlfjslfjslfs"
Quote: Mission146Hey! Quit worrying about what JohnZimbo's doing and make sure you don't have contradictory Picks!
J/K
That really is just a joke, you seem like a guy who has a pleasant demeanor and good sense of humor, so I figured I could get away with that one.
LOL. Actually, my program caught that typo, not me.... because his pick was highlighted in blue! The program didn't recognize it or know what it was, and when that happens, it changes the font to blue, knowing it can't grade it, to alert the user.
According to my notes, I also liked the Raiders this week, especially at +6, against Jacksonville. Since I didn't pick them, it seems likely I got them mixed up, somehow, with the Cardinals. (That game is directly underneath the other game, so that seems about as likely as an explanation as anything.)
So I have to put my own question to myself. Should I now root for the Raiders or the Jaguars? :)
Looks like I'm really out there with my confidence pick on the Pack. How many people took that one the other direction? I haven't counted. Yikes! (I don't think GB's going to win this either; I just don't think it will be a blowout. Obviously I could be wrong.)
There were 13 votes for Washington - Green Bay. 13 picked Washington. An amazing number of you (21 votes (double for confidence) took action on the Manning Bowl III (15-6), but even more of you took action on Indianapolis (22-3) probably because the line moved to -2.5. I think most people took the Redskins because the line moved from 9.5 to 7.5.
Mission, can you check KeyserSore's pick vs the Wizards. They are beside each other in the order and they have the SAME picks (Wizard picks Panthers in Confidence is the only difference).
Quote: EdCollins
Go Lions!
I concur... :D
Quote: beachbumbabsUnbelievable. My CBS affiliate (Orlando) is carrying the Jacksonville game by contract (all Jax away games due to proximity) rather than the Manning Bowl. They're already running a streamer under the early game apologizing for it. The complaints must be coming in by the thousands.
try this link to watch football on the internet. Not the greatest quality but watchable.
http://www.azzavnfl.net/
I'm in Tampa, just got 1 game on TV now, Colts Dolphins, but also watching Ravens Browns on my laptop using the link. Our 4pm game is of course the Bucs Saints(1st time in years we get a home game on TV due to rare sellout here) so will watch Manning bowl on laptop.
Yikes. 13-1 losers in the Redskins - Packers game.
No real money won this weekend. ($20 lost).
Quote: Buzzard" Obviously I could be wrong. " DUH !
HEEheeheeheeHEE....so far, so good. (commence Snidely Whiplash rubbing of hands)
Quote: beachbumbabsUnbelievable. My CBS affiliate (Orlando) is carrying the Jacksonville game by contract (all Jax away games due to proximity) rather than the Manning Bowl. They're already running a streamer under the early game apologizing for it. The complaints must be coming in by the thousands.
That apology from the station made the news:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/orlando-station-apologizes-having-show-jacksonville-jaguars-game-175955359--nfl.html
Quote: beachbumbabsHEEheeheeheeHEE....so far, so good. (commence Snidely Whiplash rubbing of hands)
My sentiments exactly. I will so enjoy that $20.
Quote: duckmankillaA marked improvement over last week for me. 2-3 to put my overall at 2-8. Creeping back towards that 500 mark, just need to go 6-0 next week and I'll be set! Anyone go 0-5 or 0-6 after going winless last week?
Yea, that's how I feel! One good week away from being right back in it!
It's still early.
No, everyone seems to have at least one win. NCFatCat and RDW4POTUS are starting off slow.
Overall, as a group, we're not doing very well. So far you want to fade the group.
No one has Cincinnati tomorrow, and a few have Pittsburgh, so if you're not one who does, then you're rooting for the Bengals.
AyeCarumba is 8-3, MidwestAP is 6-2, and Buzzard is 7-3.
Quote: EdCollinsLOL. Actually, my program caught that typo, not me.... because his pick was highlighted in blue! The program didn't recognize it or know what it was, and when that happens, it changes the font to blue, knowing it can't grade it, to alert the user.
I didn't even know it did that...lol...I was just trying to put them all in correctly!
Quote: boymimboDuckman, NCFatCat, and RDW4POTUS are all 2 and 8 and occupy the bottom of the pool for now. MinnesotaJoe did not have picks this week and is still 0-5. SOOPOO might take last place with a Cincinnati win (by 8 or more) tonight with a record of 2-10.
AyeCarumba is 8-3, MidwestAP is 6-2, and Buzzard is 7-3.
yep, the battle for the basement is always interesting too. I'm a contender!
Quote: beachbumbabsI think Mission made the right decision, especially since Ed agrees it was fair...So I'm glad it's Mission as commissioner and not me! King Solomon didn't have nuttin' on you, Pierce.
I appreciate the compliment, BeachBumBabs, but I don't think King Solomon's Picks would be 1-3 going into the Monday night game.
Quote: boymimbo
Mission, can you check KeyserSore's pick vs the Wizards. They are beside each other in the order and they have the SAME picks (Wizard picks Panthers in Confidence is the only difference).
Verified and correct. They happen to be next to one another because KeyserSoze's PM was the one I got immediately after The Wizard's. Interesting coincidence, but yes, the CP was the only difference. They even picked the teams in the same order, except they formatted them differently.
Quote: Mission146Verified and correct. They happen to be next to one another because KeyserSoze's PM was the one I got immediately after The Wizard's. Interesting coincidence, but yes, the CP was the only difference. They even picked the teams in the same order, except they formatted them differently.
I also noticed we had the same picks. I don't think its a coincidence. Great minds think alike, I guess.
Quote: Mission146Verified and correct. They happen to be next to one another because KeyserSoze's PM was the one I got immediately after The Wizard's. Interesting coincidence, but yes, the CP was the only difference. They even picked the teams in the same order, except they formatted them differently.
The funny thing is I was also going to use the Panthers as a confidence pick, but forgot. I was going to send another PM but didn't want to confuse matters.
So I will stand by my slow start of 7-3. I can only improve from here. Still moving today. Be back later to check on Green Bay fans.
Who was first player cut by Vince Lombardi ? He went on be be a champion in another sport.
Quote: BuzzardBeen moving this weekend, catching up on missing 2 weeks at CMU, 12 credit load. No excuses, but Mission can verify first time ever I was not the first person to post his /her picks.
Yes and no, I can verify that this was the first week Buzzard did not have his picks in first, with exception to those occasions where players picked in the dark. We had two players with other engagements this week who did not want to use this as a Skip week and picked in the dark. One of those two players actually picked in the dark quite frequently last year.
"9/15/13 Minnesota Vikings +6.5 Chicago Bears -6.5 O/U 42"
That's the same as
Minnesota Vikings +6.5
Chicago Bears -6.5
In either case it means that Chicago is favored by 6.5 points so if you are betting Chicago then the Bears need to win by a touchdown (plus extra point) or more. Otherwise Vikings win.
Quote: beachbumbabsLooks like I'm really out there with my confidence pick on the Pack. How many people took that one the other direction? I haven't counted. Yikes! (I don't think GB's going to win this either; I just don't think it will be a blowout. Obviously I could be wrong.)
Ah, this quote now makes sense, given your confusion with how NFL lines work.
If you didn't think GB was going to win, then you really wanted to bet on Washington, and take the 9.5 points.
If you take the favored team, your team must win by the spread, (or more) in order for you to win.
If you take the underdog, your team must lose by less than the spread (or win outright) in order for you to win.
I hope that makes sense. An example may help clarify:
When you took GB, the favorite, you're saying not only would they win, they would win by 10 points or more.
And yes, when you took the Bears, the favorite, you're saying not only would they win they would win by 7 points or more.
Conceptually, what I'm gathering is that the - means the game is in a team's favor, and so the 0-0 win/lose point is moved accordingly. The + means a team is given a handicap of sorts, like in golf; they can still lose, but move the line and they win the bet. Still refining my understanding.
The easiest way to think of a betting line such as:
DET +3 v. DEN -3
Is to imagine if the game started, prior to kickoff, with Detroit leading Denver 3-0 and asking yourself who would win the game. If you think Denver would still win, then you like Broncos -3, if you think Detroit would win if they got to start with a 3-0 lead before kickoff, then you like Detroit +3. If you find it difficult to pick a team you like in this scenario, and you will more often than not, then you wouldn't pick that game either way.
I apologize. It's not easy being me.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe + means a team is given a handicap of sorts, like in golf; they can still lose, but move the line and they win the bet.
Exactly.
Final Score: GB 38, Washington 20
Line: Washington +9.5
Adjusted Score: GB 38, Washington 29.5
GB wins. (In this case the favorite covered.)
Final Score: Chicago 31, Minnesota 30
Line: Minnesota +6.5
Adjusted Score: Chicago 31, Minnesota 36.5
Minnesota wins. (In this case the favorite didn't cover. Chicago won the game, but not by the spread, so bets on Minnesota win.)
BTW, all's cool with me and Buzz...he was not taking a shot, apology not necessary but accepted (I'll put it in the apology bank, or he can put it back in his pocket and use it on someone else some time, his choice).