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calwatch
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March 13th, 2023 at 2:30:04 AM permalink
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A)A few people can potentially split up $2000 over a few days and it's worthwhile.
B)8000 people potentially pick twenty-five cents over a few days, that's probably not worth it especially if you were to include the costs of picking it up.
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I would argue B.
If someone has no connections or network, then posting it on a public forum rather than seeing the opportunity die is preferable in my opinion. Assuming the information was obtained on their own and there were no conditions when they received the information, it is their business whether or not they want to share. I hate it when advantage players try to shame people who find things out on their own from sharing openly. No one is entitled to play at an advantage. If you can make it, great, but don't cry when it goes away. Find another advantage elsewhere and keep it to yourself then.

Now, if a play was shared with someone in confidence then it would not be appropriate to broadcast it openly, but I find promotions that I can't take advantage of that may be +EV at my local casinos and, if it seems that people can take advantage of them, I will broadcast them on this forum, which is fine.
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March 13th, 2023 at 7:32:29 AM permalink
This is settled law here at WoV. Mike has made it clear that outing these plays is approved behavior here. He himself has been doing around a monthly Ďrevealí of a slot play.

I am an example of someone who ONLY because of this forum now makes a little $$ on some of these slot plays. That is basically why this forum was started!
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March 13th, 2023 at 7:42:43 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

This is settled law here at WoV. Mike has made it clear that outing these plays is approved behavior here. He himself has been doing around a monthly Ďrevealí of a slot play.

I am an example of someone who ONLY because of this forum now makes a little $$ on some of these slot plays. That is basically why this forum was started!
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Yea I agree. These things arenít that easy to figure out on your own, or at least I donít have the time or inclination.
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March 13th, 2023 at 8:11:52 AM permalink
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Vicksburg and that whole area of Mississippi have nobody working it. Except Biloxi has the Asians in the Buffalo room.

Sorry Iím trying to help out others.
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This is simply factually incorrect, just because you didnít happen to see it while you were there doesnít mean it doesnít exist.

Iím not going to debate back and forth with you if itís true you were there, but I have firsthand knowledge itís not. Biloxi comments are way, way off.

It is true that this is settled policy on this forum as SooPoo pointed out, and it is also true that many or most APís that participated years ago either chose to leave, not actively participate or were run off as a result, depending on your interpretation of all of it.

The run off interpretation would be it was the exodus was knowingly and willingly caused. Thereís a very vague rule here (they most are) about controversial topics off limit, and when we had what by response happened to be the most controversial thread Iíve ever seen on this forum, it was sanctioned by the person creating that rule. Huh?

Trying to change anyoneís mind on the subject is a fools errand and a lesson in accepting things you canít change imo, some will change their mind with experience but no one is changing it for them.
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March 13th, 2023 at 8:49:16 AM permalink
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Vicksburg Mississippi, Tunica, and to a lesser extent Biloxi have some of the best slot AP opportunities. Thereís no AP slot players in Vicksburg. They have hexbreaker, and there are great opportunities on cash falls, piggies, youíre competing with nobody.
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I have been to all three of these cities. I consider Vicksburg and Tunica to be too remote to attract fly-in players and I haven't gone there in five years.. If you are already local, you already know the scene. Otherwise, how does this help? I have been to Biloxi more often recently and I think it is laughable that you think there is no competition for slot plays. NOLA is better than Biloxi due to the surplus of drunk tourists leaving games.

Why not mention also Mardi Gras Casino in Cross Lanes, WV? I am sure many of us will be flying there tomorrow.
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March 13th, 2023 at 9:05:46 AM permalink
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Vicksburg Mississippi, Tunica, and to a lesser extent Biloxi have some of the best slot AP opportunities. Thereís no AP slot players in Vicksburg. They have hexbreaker, and there are great opportunities on cash falls, piggies, youíre competing with nobody.
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I have been to all three of these cities. I consider Vicksburg and Tunica to be too remote to attract fly-in players and I haven't gone there in five years.. If you are already local, you already know the scene. Otherwise, how does this help? .
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If it was all currently true, with something easy thatís any good, by the time someone gets there it will no longer be true or will no longer be true in a matter of days.

So yes, it really isnít even helpful if trying to help in that sense. It seems like this wasnít as true to the extent it is today in early forum days.
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March 13th, 2023 at 10:33:55 AM permalink
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Thereís a very vague rule here (they most are) about controversial topics off limit, and when we had what by response happened to be the most controversial thread Iíve ever seen on this forum, it was sanctioned by the person creating that rule. Huh?
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My personal understanding of the rule is that controversial topics not directly related to the forum's core of gambling, math, and Vegas are to be avoided.

My official understanding can accept correction as needed.

My unrelated understanding is that most of the moderators can hold two or more simultaneous contrary opinions on many subjects.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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March 13th, 2023 at 12:03:30 PM permalink
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This is settled law here at WoV. Mike has made it clear that outing these plays is approved behavior here.

Not so fast buco. IIRC Mike was not on board with some aspects. I can't remember his wording on the exact timeframe, or circumstances, but something along the lines of not outing plays that will cause Advadage Players(or members here) financial harm. Something like that. DarkOz might remember.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 13th, 2023 at 1:17:06 PM permalink
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Why not mention also Mardi Gras Casino in Cross Lanes, WV? I am sure many of us will be flying there tomorrow.



If there is enough money to be made I think many of us will go there.
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March 13th, 2023 at 1:38:50 PM permalink
An anonymous source clued me in on something that might lead to some insight as to what's going on here.

Colin from BJA may have interviewed the OP and someone else regarding some backroomings and settlements. This may be a ... let's punish casinos for their transgressions situation.

I will let people do their own research investigation if they care to do so.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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