Convinced about Dice Setter, What Would it Take?
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Has this ever been done under controlled scientific conditions?
Gene
Quote: AlanMendelsonYes. It's a combination of how they threw and their results.
Anyone chucking dice can't be a DI.
There is a particular form or path that dice must follow so they don't bounce all over the table haphazardly.
Sharoshooter's book properly describes DI.
In short, DI is an attempt to limit dice from bouncing around haphazardly.
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Has Sharpshooter, or anyone else, successfully demonstrated their claims, under controlled conditions?
Gene
I don’t decide since I’m always betting against the casino and it’s always the same house edge. I just betQuote: AlanMendelson
HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHAT SHOOTER YOU'LL BET WITH?
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I don’t understand what it means to bet “with” or “against” a shooter. Can you explain it to me in terms of roulette: if, for instance, I bet $100 on red, am I betting with the croupier or against him?
Let's pretend it's possible. I trust that Alan would know what a properly influenced shot would look like. Alan has no way of knowing if a legal shot is producing an advantage. The shooter/DI doesn't even know. They could only know if they have an advantage overall. And only after many rolls and proper tracking.Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: UP84Ok, thanks that clears things up a bit. And just to clarify further...do you believe there are DI shooters out there...ie. shooters who can use their skill to repeatedly hit more winning numbers? I will NOT be judgmental on your response on this one way or the other, I'm just trying to understand what you believe.Quote: AlanMendelsonIn plain talk the goal of a DI is to hit more winning numbers. If you want to call that changing the house edge then so be it.
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It's a big world out there. There must be.
Have I seen them? In all my years playing craps I've only seen three players I would describe as DIs. Maybe there was a fourth but he didn't have a roll that lasted more than about six tosses.
DI is not like running an 8 second 100 yard dash. Its throwing two cubes with one hand about six feet.
Why couldn't there be others?
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You may "describe" them as DIs. But those pinhead pit bosses who booted you from those casinos described you as a DI as well...
Gene
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And THAT is the point! Confirmation bias! Alan saw those few guys on a hot roll and decided they were DIs. They moved to another table and someone else saw them on a cold roll. Do you think the someone else came to the conclusion that those guys were DIs, just on a cold roll?!?
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For me it's easy.Quote: AlanMendelsonHOW DO YOU DECIDE WHAT SHOOTER YOU'LL BET WITH?
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I play Pass and/or Come if the shooter is any one of the following:
- A woman with big boobs
- A guy with a mustache
- Drinking a Martini
- From the Upper West Side
- A Harvard or Cornell alum
I play Don’t Pass/Don’t Come if the shooter is any one of the following:
- A woman with a mustache
- A guy with big boobs
- Drinking a White Russian (apologies to The Dude)
- From the Upper East Side
- A Yale alum
In case of overlap, or if none apply, I play Don’t Pass/Don’t Come.
Quote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOIn conversation with the guy who was taking A LONG time to even get the basics down , tells me about his Blackjack from earlier. Of course, the 3rd base guy ‘ruined the flow’ by taking a card when he shouldn’t have. Me and his 3 friends agonizingly tried to convince him the 3rd base guys ‘errors’ will help him as often as they hurt him. Just could not convince him.
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Ruined the Flow vs Saved the Table.
(sigh) Selective memory.
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Thanks Dieter. You saved me from having to say it.
Quote: AxelWolfLet's pretend it's possible. I trust that Alan would know what a properly influenced shot would look like. Alan has no way of knowing if a legal shot is producing an advantage. The shooter/DI doesn't even know. They could only know if they have an advantage overall. And only after many rolls and proper tracking.Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: UP84Ok, thanks that clears things up a bit. And just to clarify further...do you believe there are DI shooters out there...ie. shooters who can use their skill to repeatedly hit more winning numbers? I will NOT be judgmental on your response on this one way or the other, I'm just trying to understand what you believe.Quote: AlanMendelsonIn plain talk the goal of a DI is to hit more winning numbers. If you want to call that changing the house edge then so be it.
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It's a big world out there. There must be.
Have I seen them? In all my years playing craps I've only seen three players I would describe as DIs. Maybe there was a fourth but he didn't have a roll that lasted more than about six tosses.
DI is not like running an 8 second 100 yard dash. Its throwing two cubes with one hand about six feet.
Why couldn't there be others?
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You may "describe" them as DIs. But those pinhead pit bosses who booted you from those casinos described you as a DI as well...
Gene
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And THAT is the point! Confirmation bias! Alan saw those few guys on a hot roll and decided they were DIs. They moved to another table and someone else saw them on a cold roll. Do you think the someone else came to the conclusion that those guys were DIs, just on a cold roll?!?
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What's funny is that in all my life I've seen three and maybe four DIs... and you guys seem to be arguing as if there are 10,000 true DIs out there.
This has become s silly string of posts.
I'm done.
These guys all had tables at home and practiced the toss for hours on end. 150-400 tosses a day for months and more. During the sessions, they even accommodated themselves by tossing from either stick/right or stick/left. The casino had no problem with the position changes much of the time.
Overall, it was a great time and memorable for me.
tuttigym
I have been arguing that there are none actually making a profit in the casinos via DI. However, if there really are 3 or 4 that you know of... that would suggest there are many more. I have met some very smart talented dedicated hopefuls who know exactly what it takes if possible.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfLet's pretend it's possible. I trust that Alan would know what a properly influenced shot would look like. Alan has no way of knowing if a legal shot is producing an advantage. The shooter/DI doesn't even know. They could only know if they have an advantage overall. And only after many rolls and proper tracking.Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: UP84Ok, thanks that clears things up a bit. And just to clarify further...do you believe there are DI shooters out there...ie. shooters who can use their skill to repeatedly hit more winning numbers? I will NOT be judgmental on your response on this one way or the other, I'm just trying to understand what you believe.Quote: AlanMendelsonIn plain talk the goal of a DI is to hit more winning numbers. If you want to call that changing the house edge then so be it.
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It's a big world out there. There must be.
Have I seen them? In all my years playing craps I've only seen three players I would describe as DIs. Maybe there was a fourth but he didn't have a roll that lasted more than about six tosses.
DI is not like running an 8 second 100 yard dash. Its throwing two cubes with one hand about six feet.
Why couldn't there be others?
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You may "describe" them as DIs. But those pinhead pit bosses who booted you from those casinos described you as a DI as well...
Gene
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And THAT is the point! Confirmation bias! Alan saw those few guys on a hot roll and decided they were DIs. They moved to another table and someone else saw them on a cold roll. Do you think the someone else came to the conclusion that those guys were DIs, just on a cold roll?!?
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What's funny is that in all my life I've seen three and maybe four DIs... and you guys seem to be arguing as if there are 10,000 true DIs out there.
This has become s silly string of posts.
I'm done.
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Quote: tuttigymLet me try and offer some clarity. About 12 years ago, I was a member of the Scoblete forum. I was the antichrist. I posted all your arguments and more against their continuously stated positions. I was eventually "nuked" by Scoblete himself simply because they could not produce any evidence or arguments to counter my disruptive posts. The vitriol was intense much like I receive here from the "math" addicts. Prior to my eviction, I received an invitation to meet up with a group of Scoblete DI/DC's in Biloxi. I spent 3 days with a group of about 7 plus me. I played and witnessed 6 sessions. In all that time, at least 12 hours of play, only one "DC" had a hand that was more than 15 rolls of the dice. The rest of the hands were under 10 rolls with the majority being in the "normal" range of hands. The disappointment was apparent. There was NO gloating on my part as we had built a rather nice friendship during the time together. I did NOT produce any posts on their forum that reflected on the trip or their performances at the tables. I did, however, continue to maintain my position against their "religion."
These guys all had tables at home and practiced the toss for hours on end. 150-400 tosses a day for months and more. During the sessions, they even accommodated themselves by tossing from either stick/right or stick/left. The casino had no problem with the position changes much of the time.
Overall, it was a great time and memorable for me.
tuttigym
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Thanks. You reinforced what I've been saying about seeing 3 and maybe 4 true DIs.
I'll tell you why I can't be a DI myself.
First, I had a kidney and pancreas transplant about 15 years ago. The anti rejection drugs I take make my hands shake. Not a lot but you wouldn't want me to try to shoot an apple off your head either.
Secondly my depth perception is off.
Those two reasons right there would offset hundreds of hours of practice.
How many others have similar physical issues? Some people just don't understand that DI is a precise physical art. You can't read a book or take lessons and succeed if your body can't cooperate.
This doesn't mean that DI is bogus. It means you need to be in top shape and stay in top shape.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfLet's pretend it's possible. I trust that Alan would know what a properly influenced shot would look like. Alan has no way of knowing if a legal shot is producing an advantage. The shooter/DI doesn't even know. They could only know if they have an advantage overall. And only after many rolls and proper tracking.Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: UP84Ok, thanks that clears things up a bit. And just to clarify further...do you believe there are DI shooters out there...ie. shooters who can use their skill to repeatedly hit more winning numbers? I will NOT be judgmental on your response on this one way or the other, I'm just trying to understand what you believe.Quote: AlanMendelsonIn plain talk the goal of a DI is to hit more winning numbers. If you want to call that changing the house edge then so be it.
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It's a big world out there. There must be.
Have I seen them? In all my years playing craps I've only seen three players I would describe as DIs. Maybe there was a fourth but he didn't have a roll that lasted more than about six tosses.
DI is not like running an 8 second 100 yard dash. Its throwing two cubes with one hand about six feet.
Why couldn't there be others?
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You may "describe" them as DIs. But those pinhead pit bosses who booted you from those casinos described you as a DI as well...
Gene
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And THAT is the point! Confirmation bias! Alan saw those few guys on a hot roll and decided they were DIs. They moved to another table and someone else saw them on a cold roll. Do you think the someone else came to the conclusion that those guys were DIs, just on a cold roll?!?
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What's funny is that in all my life I've seen three and maybe four DIs... and you guys seem to be arguing as if there are 10,000 true DIs out there.
This has become s silly string of posts.
I'm done.
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Is that a promise?
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigymLet me try and offer some clarity. About 12 years ago, I was a member of the Scoblete forum. I was the antichrist. I posted all your arguments and more against their continuously stated positions. I was eventually "nuked" by Scoblete himself simply because they could not produce any evidence or arguments to counter my disruptive posts. The vitriol was intense much like I receive here from the "math" addicts. Prior to my eviction, I received an invitation to meet up with a group of Scoblete DI/DC's in Biloxi. I spent 3 days with a group of about 7 plus me. I played and witnessed 6 sessions. In all that time, at least 12 hours of play, only one "DC" had a hand that was more than 15 rolls of the dice. The rest of the hands were under 10 rolls with the majority being in the "normal" range of hands. The disappointment was apparent. There was NO gloating on my part as we had built a rather nice friendship during the time together. I did NOT produce any posts on their forum that reflected on the trip or their performances at the tables. I did, however, continue to maintain my position against their "religion."
These guys all had tables at home and practiced the toss for hours on end. 150-400 tosses a day for months and more. During the sessions, they even accommodated themselves by tossing from either stick/right or stick/left. The casino had no problem with the position changes much of the time.
Overall, it was a great time and memorable for me.
tuttigym
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Thanks. You reinforced what I've been saying about seeing 3 and maybe 4 true DIs.
I'll tell you why I can't be a DI myself.
First, I had a kidney and pancreas transplant about 15 years ago. The anti rejection drugs I take make my hands shake. Not a lot but you wouldn't want me to try to shoot an apple off your head either.
Secondly my depth perception is off.
Those two reasons right there would offset hundreds of hours of practice.
How many others have similar physical issues? Some people just don't understand that DI is a precise physical art. You can't read a book or take lessons and succeed if your body can't cooperate.
This doesn't mean that DI is bogus. It means you need to be in top shape and stay in top shape.
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That person does not exist. That person who has the physical attributes to potential become a DI AND has sufficiently acquired the skill to be a DI does not exist.
Gene
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That person does not exist. That person who has the physical attributes to potential become a DI AND has sufficiently acquired the skill to be a DI does not exist.
Gene
I agree. One other point, I believe, Alan is confusing "control" with "influence." Mission touched on it in a prior post. A "controlled" throw or toss is one that is consistently repeated in height, distance, velocity, and even rotation. Practice and repetitions will allow one with good motor skills and coordination to "master" a "controlled" toss. "Influence" is another animal. The idea that a "controlled" legal toss will actually provide a specific result, i.e., no 7 or a hard 8, or even a 7 winner at come out is fantasy. And, BTW, Scoblete has finally acknowledged such.
tuttigym
link/reference, please.Quote: tuttigymAnd, BTW, Scoblete has finally acknowledged such.
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Quote: AxelWolflink/reference, please.Quote: tuttigymAnd, BTW, Scoblete has finally acknowledged such.
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I cannot give you the exact link, but Scoblete walked away from the Golden Touch forum and "school" that was so prominent in his life that made his name forever linked with DC/DI. There were also rumors, not verified by me, that he was civilly sued which resulted in his divorce from the Golden Touch.
I also had a posting conversation with him on another forum, long time ago and cannot remember which one, where he acknowledged his disassociation with GT, and he remembered my handle and posts and nuking. I called him a "coward" for not standing up to the pressure he received from the forum members for my nuking.
tuttigym
https://www.casinocitytimes.com/frank-scoblete/archives/
and there is nothing about disavowing dice control, or disavowing anything else in fact at least two blog posts from 2018
https://www.casinocitytimes.com/frank-scoblete/article/the-quotable-captain-dice-control-66064
How easy is it to learn how to control the dice? It took me three years to get fairly good at it – and I had the best models playing next to me.
https://www.casinocitytimes.com/frank-scoblete/article/the-quotable-captain-the-struggle-66063
seem to reaffirm his believe in it.
Tuttigym's post is unclear anyway - refers maybe more to Scoblete's backing away from some persons and personalities involved with dice control than disavowing belief in dice control.
I found this "Golden Touch Craps" website
https://www.goldentouchcraps.com/
and there is mention of Scoblete
https://www.goldentouchcraps.com/dombio.shtm
According to author Frank Scoblete, "Along with Tony Lee, the Dominator is the most devastating dice shooter in the world today. If anyone has a chance to break the World Record of craps rolls before a seven out, it is the Dominator. He is beauty in motion when he throws the dice. He's also a terrific blackjack player and a great poker player. The man is a serious threat to the casino bankroll."
and then I also found this one
http://www.goldentouchcasino.com/
which links to https://www.goldentouchcraps.com/
(Both domains registered with Ionus, almost definitely owned by the same person or entity, although privacy guarded WhoIs so we can't know for sure who owns them.)
And on the http://www.goldentouchcasino.com/ website, here
http://www.goldentouchcasino.com/frankbio.shtml
It lists how to contact Frank Scoblete via his mailing address, phone number, and email, so it would seem that Scoblete is still associated with both websites.
Influence: to have some effect on numbers that might be rolled.
Quote: AlanMendelsonControl: the power to manage dice. To determine a number that will be rolled.
Influence: to have some effect on numbers that might be rolled.
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And there is no evidence that either exists, under controlled conditions, using legal throws.
Gene
Quote: AlanMendelsonControl: the power to manage dice. To determine a number that will be rolled.
Influence: to have some effect on numbers that might be rolled.
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I attempted to discuss the influence in my thread on an excerpt from Bill Zender's book and how a now defunct company ran an analysis on the inertia of a die and the force needed to spin it on any axis. If I recall correctly (and I can go find the link again but it would need to be run through the Wayback Machine since the link is dead now), the amount of force needed was more than 100x less than the expected force generated by the average throw. If that is correct, then any potential for influence requires basically superhuman ability.
Whenever people talk about Dice control related to craps, it's the same as dice influence.Quote: AlanMendelsonControl: the power to manage dice. To determine a number that will be rolled.
Influence: to have some effect on numbers that might be rolled.
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Dice control was the term they used until someone realized it should be changed to influence. I don't think anyone around here is confused or actually thinks someone can control the dice with a legitimate roll.
All those years of hard work down the drain with a basic rule change in how you're allowed to throw the dice.
the question is:
"Convinced about dice setter - what would it take"
for me the answer is very obvious -
all that has to happen is for somebody on this board to claim that they can do it - for example 80% of the time - then it must be true
because here on this board_____ 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙘𝙡𝙖𝙞𝙢 𝙢𝙖𝙙𝙚 𝙞𝙨 100% 𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙚________ I guaran-dam-tee-it______sure as God made little green apples
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And seriously warned at Caesars, Red Rock and Suncoast to make sure my dice bounce off the back wall?
Because no one believes in it? Because it's fiction? Because there's not one single person in the world who can do it?
(And don't give me the BS that setting dice takes too long.)
Quote: AlanMendelsonThen why the F--- was I thrown out of MGM Grand, NYNY, and Bellagio...
And seriously warned at Caesars, Red Rock and Suncoast to make sure my dice bounce off the back wall?
Because no one believes in it? Because it's fiction? Because there's not one single person in the world who can do it?
(And don't give me the BS that setting dice takes too long.)
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Because those pinhead pitbosses and/or floor managers BELIEVED it was possible, which is evidence of their lacking. And you weren't hitting the back wall.
Gene
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AlanMendelsonThen why the F--- was I thrown out of MGM Grand, NYNY, and Bellagio...
And seriously warned at Caesars, Red Rock and Suncoast to make sure my dice bounce off the back wall?
Because no one believes in it? Because it's fiction? Because there's not one single person in the world who can do it?
(And don't give me the BS that setting dice takes too long.)
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Because those pinhead pitbosses and/or floor managers BELIEVED it was possible, which is evidence of their lacking. And you weren't hitting the back wall.
Gene
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Yes I was hitting the back wall... and three times in a row my dice ACCIDENTALLY ended up LEANING against the back wall at BELLAGIO and twice the boxman called NO ROLL claiming the dice must bounce off the back wall a minimum of six inches.
Later Bellagio management apologized to me.
Because humans are idiots sometimes and they believe craps that's not true.. During the DI hype there was all kinds of scary miss information including that breaking Vegas series about the Dominator.Quote: AlanMendelsonThen why the F--- was I thrown out of MGM Grand, NYNY, and Bellagio...
And seriously warned at Caesars, Red Rock and Suncoast to make sure my dice bounce off the back wall?
Because no one believes in it? Because it's fiction? Because there's not one single person in the world who can do it?
(And don't give me the BS that setting dice takes too long.)
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IIRC you can't / couldn't shoot a Bigfoot in Washington state.
Yeah.
It's all bogus.
What's bogus is that there are so many of you that have your minds made up.
Have a nice day.
It was your hedging technique. They saw your combination of bets and realized that you win money no matter what number is rolled. Therefore they ejected youQuote: AlanMendelsonThen why the F--- was I thrown out of MGM Grand, NYNY, and Bellagio...
And seriously warned at Caesars, Red Rock and Suncoast to make sure my dice bounce off the back wall?
Because no one believes in it? Because it's fiction? Because there's not one single person in the world who can do it?
(And don't give me the BS that setting dice takes too long.)
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Gene
Quote: GenoDRPhOur minds are made up because ALL evidence supports our conclusions. Prove us wrong, and show us evidence that FACTUALLY shows differently.
Gene
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I hope it's never proven to your satisfaction because if it is the dealers will turn a cage with two dice in it.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: GenoDRPhOur minds are made up because ALL evidence supports our conclusions. Prove us wrong, and show us evidence that FACTUALLY shows differently.
Gene
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I hope it's never proven to your satisfaction because if it is the dealers will turn a cage with two dice in it.
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They may allow the shooter to turn the cage.
You got that right. Didn't the casino at one time hire coolers?Quote: AlanMendelsonOf course the multi billion dollar industry is filled with idiots...
I remember a story about how some random roller dude tossed 18 yo's in a row, and all the stick man did was rattle the dice around a bit or whatever, and everyone acted as if it was no big deal.
Heck, no one ever even bet the yo. Talk about a bunch of idiots.
Except of course for this one guy, he was super duper smart. He didn't give in to the temptation to bet it, Nope...not even after the 10th yo in a row, the 11th yo in a row, the 13 yo in a row, the 14th in a row, the 15th yo in a row, the 16th in a row, the 17th yo in a row.
Quote: AxelWolfYou got that right. Didn't the casino at one time hire coolers?Quote: AlanMendelsonOf course the multi billion dollar industry is filled with idiots...
I remember a story about how some random roller dude tossed 18 yo's in a row, and all the stick man did was rattle the dice around a bit or whatever, and everyone acted as if it was no big deal.
Heck, no one ever even bet the yo. Talk about a bunch of idiots.
Except of course for this one guy, he was super duper smart. He didn't give in to the temptation to bet it, Nope...not even after the 10th yo in a row, the 11th yo in a row, the 13 yo in a row, the 14th in a row, the 15th yo in a row, the 16th in a row, the 17th yo in a row.
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Yes. What idiot would expect another yo to be thrown. The yo is a sucker's bet.
Ask any AP. They bet pass with max odds.
nah, we bet hardways. pass or dp (with or without odds) is negative ev. unless, of course, you’re a diQuote: AlanMendelson[
Yes. What idiot would expect another yo to be thrown. The yo is a sucker's bet.
Ask any AP. They bet pass with max odds.
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Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: GenoDRPhOur minds are made up because ALL evidence supports our conclusions. Prove us wrong, and show us evidence that FACTUALLY shows differently.
Gene
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I hope it's never proven to your satisfaction because if it is the dealers will turn a cage with two dice in it.
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Based on the mathematics of a different yet concurrent thread, maybe I should re-evaluate my position.
Let's say hypothetically that I am more open minded about this actually being probable than before. Yet there is still the issue of an almost complete lack of evidence of this actually occurring. While I am willing to soften my stance (not that the dice gods care what I think), I still respectfully require valid evidence.
Gene
It's no longer a sucker bet after 10 in a row(less, but let's go with 10) its almost certainly a situation that's no longer random where you have a huge advantage.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfYou got that right. Didn't the casino at one time hire coolers?Quote: AlanMendelsonOf course the multi billion dollar industry is filled with idiots...
I remember a story about how some random roller dude tossed 18 yo's in a row, and all the stick man did was rattle the dice around a bit or whatever, and everyone acted as if it was no big deal.
Heck, no one ever even bet the yo. Talk about a bunch of idiots.
Except of course for this one guy, he was super duper smart. He didn't give in to the temptation to bet it, Nope...not even after the 10th yo in a row, the 11th yo in a row, the 13 yo in a row, the 14th in a row, the 15th yo in a row, the 16th in a row, the 17th yo in a row.
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Yes. What idiot would expect another yo to be thrown. The yo is a sucker's bet.
Ask any AP. They bet pass with max odds.
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I can ask any sain legitimate AP and they would all come to the conclusion something is up and you'd be a fool not to bet or run (run because you don't want to be associated with any shenanigans).
Why not bet the hardways? If you bring x amount and you're going to play craps until it's gone or you're up x amount, I really don't see the difference other than the length of time you'll be there on average.Quote: Ace2nah, we bet hardways. pass or dp (with or without odds) is negative ev. unless, of course, you’re a diQuote: AlanMendelson[
Yes. What idiot would expect another yo to be thrown. The yo is a sucker's bet.
Ask any AP. They bet pass with max odds.
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Quote: MDawgLatest posts are here
https://www.casinocitytimes.com/frank-scoblete/archives/
and there is nothing about disavowing dice control, or disavowing anything else in fact at least two blog posts from 2018
https://www.casinocitytimes.com/frank-scoblete/article/the-quotable-captain-dice-control-66064
How easy is it to learn how to control the dice? It took me three years to get fairly good at it – and I had the best models playing next to me.
https://www.casinocitytimes.com/frank-scoblete/article/the-quotable-captain-the-struggle-66063
seem to reaffirm his believe in it.
Tuttigym's post is unclear anyway - refers maybe more to Scoblete's backing away from some persons and personalities involved with dice control than disavowing belief in dice control.
I found this "Golden Touch Craps" website
https://www.goldentouchcraps.com/
and there is mention of Scoblete
https://www.goldentouchcraps.com/dombio.shtm
According to author Frank Scoblete, "Along with Tony Lee, the Dominator is the most devastating dice shooter in the world today. If anyone has a chance to break the World Record of craps rolls before a seven out, it is the Dominator. He is beauty in motion when he throws the dice. He's also a terrific blackjack player and a great poker player. The man is a serious threat to the casino bankroll."
and then I also found this one
http://www.goldentouchcasino.com/
which links to https://www.goldentouchcraps.com/
(Both domains registered with Ionus, almost definitely owned by the same person or entity, although privacy guarded WhoIs so we can't know for sure who owns them.)
And on the http://www.goldentouchcasino.com/ website, here
http://www.goldentouchcasino.com/frankbio.shtml
It lists how to contact Frank Scoblete via his mailing address, phone number, and email, so it would seem that Scoblete is still associated with both websites.
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Yet with all the hullaballoo about Scoblete and Dominator, neither one can make a living PLAYING craps; neither one goes into a casino wearing masks to hide their identity; and neither one are excommunicated from casinos simply because when they do manage to play, they lose at about the same rate as the tourists they fleece with their "schools," getogethers, and seminars.
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