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rxwine
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July 21st, 2022 at 9:02:52 AM permalink
Surely a casino somewhere in the world would release an hour or two of video in a live casino of DI by now.

Or did I miss it. How long have they had cameras on casino games? 50 years.

Is there some reason a casino would never show it?

Edit , I suppose even 2 hours might not be enough time.
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Keyser
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July 21st, 2022 at 9:09:26 AM permalink
You can quickly disprove the notion of dice control by dropping the dice from 14 inches above a padded felt. Drop them over a thousand trials and you'll find that you're wasting your time, unless the dice are biased.
rxwine
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July 21st, 2022 at 9:37:48 AM permalink
I donít know the veracity of the claim, but the story about K&N filters is the example that the filters performed poorly on the test bench. Supposedly, when they actually put the same filter on a car, the vibration of the car caused the tiny fibers to wave around producing superior filtration.

Anyway, the idea is being careful you havenít missed something occurring on the actual event vs the test.
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tuttigym
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July 21st, 2022 at 10:24:45 AM permalink
One of our forum members, DeMango, was a Scoblete disciple. He had his own regulation table and practiced religiously for a very long time. His toss, which I have witnessed, was incredibly consistent in elevation, distance to the back wall, velocity, trajectory, bounce, etc. First, it would be interesting to hear from him and what, if any, were his results, and second, perhaps, tell us what he has discovered about DI. What I witnessed, as far, as his results when he played was that his play was basically average.

I am sure he has had, in the past, a number of interactions with Scoblete students and followers. I personally met up with a number of them about 12 years ago. The play was over a two day period and there were 7 or 8 really nice guys who were really into DC. Over the course of that time there were 6 sessions and one player in one hand had a hand that exceeded 10 tosses before a 7 out. To say the least, the group disappointment was evident.

For me, DC/DI is impossible and the scammers like Scoblete, his stooge, Dom and the others selling their snake oil know it.

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ChumpChange
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July 21st, 2022 at 11:44:45 AM permalink
I think setting the dice is a skill to learn. Throwing for results that are acceptable is a separate skill included with setting the dice. People who set the dice then random roll anyway are really no better than random rollers.
AlanMendelson
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July 21st, 2022 at 11:49:51 AM permalink
There is no question that there have been snake oil salesmen.

There are also quacks in medical care, and bogus lawyers, and imposters in every industry.

But I'm going to ask one more time: out of all the thousands of dice players are you saying there cant be ten true DIs?

How about 5?

How about 3?

Have you witnessed the play of every craps shooter in the world to reach your decision? If you have witnessed the play of every craps shooter in the world then you win the argument.
ChumpChange
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July 21st, 2022 at 11:52:39 AM permalink
Don't forget that the world turns while the dice are in the air.
AlanMendelson
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July 21st, 2022 at 11:54:09 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I think setting the dice is a skill to learn. Throwing for results that are acceptable is a separate skill included with setting the dice. People who set the dice then random roll anyway are really no better than random rollers.
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I thought that years ago everyone knew the difference between dice setting and dice influencing.

Anyone can set dice.

The funny thing is watching someone set their dice then pick them up and shake them before throwing them to bounce all over the table.
AlanMendelson
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July 21st, 2022 at 11:55:20 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Don't forget that the world turns while the dice are in the air.
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Gosh it's amazing we don't fly away when we jump up.
tuttigym
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July 21st, 2022 at 12:11:42 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

There is no question that there have been snake oil salesmen.

There are also quacks in medical care, and bogus lawyers, and imposters in every industry.

But I'm going to ask one more time: out of all the thousands of dice players are you saying there cant be ten true DIs?

How about 5?

How about 3?

Have you witnessed the play of every craps shooter in the world to reach your decision? If you have witnessed the play of every craps shooter in the world then you win the argument.
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Don't need to witness "every" craps shooter just those who claim DI/DC, and I have. Thanks for the win!

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