Dice setter meetup at ELEMENTS casino, Brantford
Here at Elements casino Brantford, the table in the V.I.P room is $15 minimum and opens usually everyday 1pm.
If there are quite a few dice setters interested, we can arrange a weekly or even monthly meetup.
PM me if interested.
Vegas DICE SETTER guests always welcome.
Directions to ELEMENTS Casino Brantford
LOL. So are you a promoter for that casino and when you say 'We don't make money off you' Are you speaking as the casino?Quote: LaymedownI honestly don't have anything against RANDOM SHOOTERS but sorry, we just don't make money from you.
Here at Elements casino Brantford, the table in the V.I.P room ...
:o)
You are all random shooters!
Actually I play craps there on a regular basis. I am speaking AS A CRAPS SHOOTER/PLAYER when I say 'We don't make money off RANDOM SHOOTERS'
As compared to many other TOURIST style casino's, I recommend this place for playing craps. Those visiting from vegas can be assured they can make money here.
When I see a random shooter at the table I hand him a sucker. Random shooters should be shot on site.
Craps has many bets to wipe out anyone without skill regardless of any math.
RANDOM SHOOTERS here is your tip of the day. Wait for it, wait for it, keep waiting, Can ya smell it?
DJATC can I have some popcorn?
Quote: LaymedownWhy do you guys post stupid comments. IF YOU'RE NOT A DICE SETTER or IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN A MEETUP, then don't post.
When I see a random shooter at the table I hand him a sucker. Random shooters should be shot on site.
Craps has many bets to wipe out anyone without skill regardless of any math.
RANDOM SHOOTERS here is your tip of the day. Wait for it, wait for it, keep waiting, Can ya smell it?
Because you make crazy ass claims like this,
"As compared to many other TOURIST style casino's, I recommend this place for playing craps. Those visiting from vegas can be assured they can make money here."
Quote: LaymedownWhy do you guys post stupid comments. IF YOU'RE NOT A DICE SETTER or IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN A MEETUP, then don't post.
When I see a random shooter at the table I hand him a sucker. Random shooters should be shot on site.
Craps has many bets to wipe out anyone without skill regardless of any math.
RANDOM SHOOTERS here is your tip of the day. Wait for it, wait for it, keep waiting, Can ya smell it?
Is it possible that in fact it is you who is the sucker?
Quote: LaymedownI honestly don't have anything against RANDOM SHOOTERS but sorry, we just don't make money from you.
I made money yesterday aggressively placing six and eight while a couple random shooters rolled dem bones; luck happens.
If in fact you believe a shooter can actually control the dice, well that's your delusion, based most likely at least in part on confirmation bias.
Not sure if you noticed, but this is a math-based gambling board (for the most part) and objective, repeatable data / evidence in support of claims should be proffered, not just pollyanna, pie in the sky hopes, dreams, and brain farts.
So I suggest you and your dice setting buddies have a coven (I mean a conference) to examine the nature of reality: then get back to us.
Quote: LaymedownWhy do you guys post stupid comments. ....Random shooters should be shot on site.
Ok then.
Quote: LaymedownAs compared to many other TOURIST style casino's, I recommend this place for playing craps. Those visiting from vegas can be assured they can make money here.
So you're saying if i or any other Vegas person doesn't win, youll give us our money back?
Quote: MrVI made money yesterday aggressively placing six and eight while a couple random shooters rolled dem bones; luck happens.
If in fact you believe a shooter can actually control the dice, well that's your delusion, based most likely at least in part on confirmation bias.
Not sure if you noticed, but this is a math-based gambling board (for the most part) and objective, repeatable data / evidence in support of claims should be proffered, not just pollyanna, pie in the sky hopes, dreams, and brain farts.
So I suggest you and your dice setting buddies have a coven (I mean a conference) to examine the nature of reality: then get back to us.
I thought wizardofodds was the math one?
In other news, the Easter bunny, Santa Claus and count chocula were all having a drink in this bar I was in last night. Santa and the count are cool but the Easter bunny is a real dick when he’s drunk.
Quote: GlenGSo you're saying if i or any other Vegas person doesn't win, youll give us our money back?
If I knew you could make me money at the tables, sure why not, Heck if you alone make me $1000.00 a visit, I'll gladly pay your expenses.
Quote: PokerGrinderI would pay money for WMW and Laymedown to be at the same table. I mean there would be so much winning going on that the casino would probably have to close after they leave.
In other news, the Easter bunny, Santa Claus and count chocula were all having a drink in this bar I was in last night. Santa and the count are cool but the Easter bunny is a real dick when he’s drunk.
If enough dice setters follow the rhythm, yes we probably could, but why? The casino makes an easy 100k per day with craps, if we were to catch even a single 6 number fire bet it's not that bad for the casino.
Quote: PokerGrinderI would pay money for WMW and Laymedown to be at the same table. I mean there would be so much winning going on that the casino would probably have to close after they leave.
In other news, the Easter bunny, Santa Claus and count chocula were all having a drink in this bar I was in last night. Santa and the count are cool but the Easter bunny is a real dick when he’s drunk.
Silly Rabbit... trix are for kids.
Quote: PokerGrinderI have a whole box of suckers and they are just for you! Just give me the address that you would like them mailed to.
DJATC can I have some popcorn?
I wrote something riveting before PG up here, why was it deleted? Wut is this nonsense
Really?Quote: LaymedownThe casino makes an easy 100k per day with craps
Quote: LaymedownThe casino makes an easy 100k per day with craps
That damned stick man, he sets the dice "just so" before allowing the shooter to pick them up.
Hmmm ...
*smacks forehead*
Eureka!
No wonder the house has the edge.
The house sets the dice.
Quote: MrVThat damned stick man, he sets the dice "just so" before allowing the shooter to pick them up.
Hmmm ...
*smacks forehead*
Eureka!
No wonder the house has the edge.
The house sets the dice.
Despite the sarcasm, you are entirely correct. The house sets the dice by not sending them out on 7's. Try this: Set em on 7's all around and attempt a low energy toss to the back wall!
Quote: AxelWolfReally?
Think about it, you have 14-16 shooters per hour, 24hrs per day each spending about $300.00 or more = $100,000.00/day
Then you get the dark side players betting hundreds of dollars and losing as an added income for the casino.
They don't worry about guys like us taking $500/day.
Quote: LaymedownNotice it's a 4/2 on top then the shooter sevens out most times at stick change.
Not a problem, hop 7's (not big red) or turn bets off.
It's a very smart move though if you have Come bets at risk on come out roll. Hop 7's
Quote: LaymedownThat seldom works, many of us should know by now dice setting to all seven set is still pure luck to roll a seven.
It's a very smart move though if you have Come bets at risk on come out roll. Hop 7's
Duh, I mean, anyone who doesn't know this must also think the earth is flat.
Quote: DeMangoDespite the sarcasm, you are entirely correct. The house sets the dice by not sending them out on 7's. Try this: Set em on 7's all around and attempt a low energy toss to the back wall!
Lol what
Quote: LaymedownI honestly don't have anything against RANDOM SHOOTERS
Wasn't it you who said they should be shot on sight?
Either there's a hidden meaning there which eludes me, or the guy just can't spell.
Quote: LaymedownI thought wizardofodds was the math one?
MathEx is the math one-too.
Quote: MrVEither there's a hidden meaning there which eludes me, or the guy just can't spell.
I like that!
So you think they make 36.5 million a year on one craps table?Quote: LaymedownThink about it, you have 14-16 shooters per hour, 24hrs per day each spending about $300.00 or more = $100,000.00/day
Then you get the dark side players betting hundreds of dollars and losing as an added income for the casino.
They don't worry about guys like us taking $500/day.
Quote: WatchMeWinAs the C-G.O.A.T , I will love to believe that the Dice Setters actually could control the outcome of their rolls to specific numbers, however I have played a couple decades of craps and over 2 million live rolls... and I can say for certain that the ones that have appeared to be Dice Setters turned out to be the worst shooters Ive experienced. I actually walk away from tables now days when I see someone playing with the dice and setting them for minutes at a time before they shoot. Top 5 most frustrating things for me on craps table. But good luck to you.. If you are ever in AC, let me know as I would love to watch you roll.
That's a whole lotta of hitting and running even for 2 decades. No wonder the recommendation to stay well hydrated.
Quote: WizardWasn't it you who said they should be shot on sight?
Haha, you are correct,
I know I should not say that but people should clarify dice setters and random shooters.
Quote: AxelWolfSo you think they make 36.5 million a year on one craps table?
Heck no! but My win/loss average is good. I think if I use my money management skills at the tables where there are many dice setters along with following their trends in numbers rolled using their dice set, I can pull away with 200k/year.
Quote: ontariodealerthis is pretty funny.....all those Brantford guys used to play where i deal.....not one was ever ahead long term.
We had the table hopping Sunday afternoon early evening. I had the dice for just over 40 rolls.
Your friends were there too, the couple from Niagara making a small fortune off my monster roll.
Quote: LaymedownI honestly don't have anything against RANDOM SHOOTERS but sorry, we just don't make money from you.
Here at Elements casino Brantford, the table in the V.I.P room is $15 minimum and opens usually everyday 1pm.
Directions to ELEMENTS Casino Brantford
Why is the VIP room only $15? I have to play at $10 - $15 all the time on the east coast. What's so special about the VIP room?
Quote: LaymedownI honestly don't have anything against RANDOM SHOOTERS but sorry, we just don't make money from you.
If there are quite a few dice setters interested, we can arrange a weekly or even monthly meetup.
PM me if interested.
Vegas DICE SETTER guests always welcome.
Directions to ELEMENTS Casino Brantford
In my 15 years of playing craps, I made the most money off my random rolls where I just chuck it wildly against the back wall. Every time I set the dice, I seven out. I either have poor dexterity or just have no skills at influencing the dice. Either way, I don't think there's any evidence dice influence is real or not. I now just play "Dave's method" on the don't and it's been working out. Won about 9 out 12 sessions now. Unlike Dave, I never re-buy in. If I lose my $500, I leave.
Laymedown you remind me of John Patrick. He is always promoting some crappy system or hedging play. Just read his book "advanced craps". I bet you believe in the same things he does.
Quote: LaymedownWe had the table hopping Sunday afternoon early evening. I had the dice for just over 40 rolls.
Your friends were there too, the couple from Niagara making a small fortune off my monster roll.
Laymedown: if someone had a craps table and offered you to throw the dice 2,000 times on pass, come or any place numbers, or don't pass, don't come and any lay numbers; the 4,5,6,8,9 and 10; but all the bets had to be the same amount of money, say $100, would you be willing to bet even money $10,000 that you would be ahead after the 2,000 rolls? No free odds bets would be allowed and none of the longshot bets, such as hardaways would be allowed because if you were down after 1,995 bets and you hit on a couple of hardaways bets your winning would not be meaningful. And free odds is not allowed because the point is to beat a house advantage, not the much easier chore of beating a zero sum proposition.
Because if you were willing to make this bet I'll bet you would have a lot of takers.
Quote: LaymedownI think if I use my money management skills at the tables where there are many dice setters along with following their trends in numbers rolled using their dice set, I can pull away with 200k/year.
That statement looks impressive but in reality it is meaningless.
You've been setting the dice for how long?
At least a decade or two I suspect, yet you only "think" you "can pull away with 200K/year"
Perhaps had you said you in fact have averaged that amount every year for the past decade there might have been some meat on the bone.
I "think" Bigfoot is married to the Easter Bunny and their progeny are dice setters.
Quote: lilredroosterLaymedown: if someone had a craps table and offered you to throw the dice 2,000 times on pass, come or any place numbers, or don't pass, don't come and any lay numbers; the 4,5,6,8,9 and 10; but all the bets had to be the same amount of money, say $100, would you be willing to bet even money $10,000 that you would be ahead after the 2,000 rolls? No free odds bets would be allowed and none of the longshot bets, such as hardaways would be allowed because if you were down after 1,995 bets and you hit on a couple of hardaways bets your winning would not be meaningful. And free odds is not allowed because the point is to beat a house advantage, not the much easier chore of beating a zero sum proposition.
Because if you were willing to make this bet I'll bet you would have a lot of takers.
Based on what you said, I would lose 99% even if it was 10,000 rolls.
If you are betting in craps, having more than two numbers at risk, you will lose.
If I have a monster roll of even 100 betting the same amount of money on all the numbers, at that point I most likely will be up but not enough to pull me through to the 2000 rolls.
If I use my favorite dice set rolling tons of NINES, I could just bet that 9 and in 2000 rolls I may average about 240 NINES totaling 36,000 if just flat betting the NINE for $100
If I use my favorite dice set rolling tons of NINES, I could just bet that 9 and in 2000 rolls I may average about 300 NINES totaling much more than $36,000 from simply pressing the NINE by $50.00 from $100, 150, 200, 250, 300, and so on to max bet.
If someone has a real craps table, I would most likely not talk about it, I would plan a visit and show them how it's done in person.
Quote: MrVThat statement looks impressive but in reality it is meaningless.
You've been setting the dice for how long?
At least a decade or two I suspect, yet you only "think" you "can pull away with 200K/year"
Perhaps had you said you in fact have averaged that amount every year for the past decade there might have been some meat on the bone.
I "think" Bigfoot is married to the Easter Bunny and their progeny are dice setters.
Casino's are open for business 24/7
why risk anything at a local casino. I try to stay low key.
Besides, $500.00 per day playing every day is approx 180,000/year and that's if you play every day and win.
My Win/loss going 3 times /week I may average 15k/year.
If I was in vegas or at a casino out of town, yeah I'd press my bets harder and try to break the bank in a weekend.
But at the same time, I don't win every day to justify a large stream of income.
Second, It's not just me rolling the dice. I tend to bet on other dice setters favorite numbers as part of the income.
As far as PULLING AWAY WITH 200K/YEAR
That statement pertains to IF THERE WAS A TABLE FULL OF DICE SETTERS ROLLING TRENDING NUMBERS simply betting on these shooters can increase income at the tables 10 fold.
Quote: alphastormQuote: LaymedownI honestly don't have anything against RANDOM SHOOTERS but sorry, we just don't make money from you.
Here at Elements casino Brantford, the table in the V.I.P room is $15 minimum and opens usually everyday 1pm.
Directions to ELEMENTS Casino Brantford
Why is the VIP room only $15? I have to play at $10 - $15 all the time on the east coast. What's so special about the VIP room?Quote: LaymedownI honestly don't have anything against RANDOM SHOOTERS but sorry, we just don't make money from you.
If there are quite a few dice setters interested, we can arrange a weekly or even monthly meetup.
PM me if interested.
Vegas DICE SETTER guests always welcome.
Directions to ELEMENTS Casino Brantford
In my 15 years of playing craps, I made the most money off my random rolls where I just chuck it wildly against the back wall. Every time I set the dice, I seven out. I either have poor dexterity or just have no skills at influencing the dice. Either way, I don't think there's any evidence dice influence is real or not. I now just play "Dave's method" on the don't and it's been working out. Won about 9 out 12 sessions now. Unlike Dave, I never re-buy in. If I lose my $500, I leave.
Laymedown you remind me of John Patrick. He is always promoting some crappy system or hedging play. Just read his book "advanced craps". I bet you believe in the same things he does.
I also did the same when setting dice from many different sets. Seven, seven, seven. It got frustrating. but the key thing is not to worry about the dice set, just keep throwing the dice and develop a good feel for throwing them to the back wall. after a few thousand rolls, it's like riding a bike, you develop a rhythm.
Then start to choose different sets that average certain numbers using your dice roll.
If you roll tons of 9's using the 6/2, 6/2 dice set, why would you use that set for fire bets or ATS after you made the 9?
Try different sets at the table to find what trending numbers and BET ON THEM.
Quote: speedycrapI think that place is perfect for me. I am coming your way soooooooon.
That's great, There are quite a few regulars here that have a good average in numbers to make a nice profit from their trending numbers.
Quote: LaymedownIf someone has a real craps table
you either missed my point or deliberately avoided it
you are claiming that you are a consistent winner with dice setting
others here are doubting you
are you willing to bet $10,000 or another significant amount to demonstrate your skill?
if you're favorite number is 9 I'm sure they will let you bet only 9 without even requiring a pass or come bet if that's what you want to do
nothing was said about requiring you to bet other numbers
2,000 sounds like a fair number of rolls to make a bet on
the bet is as to whether you are ahead or behind after 2,000 rolls - an even money bet
you against your doubters
I'm sure they would allow you to do your progressive thing on your bet on the #9 within certain parameters
flat betting would be the best way to prove it
I'm sure any rules could be worked out
the question is are you game? to prove your skill to the doubters with money on the line.
yes or no?
if not why not?
I am not interested in wagering, Sorry.
I will gladly compete in any offering, but not for money.
Besides, you have to factor in the starting amount of chip stack.
if it's $10k starting bank roll yes. But if you think you can hustle me with a starting chip stack of under $1000 then that's safe to say I would doey/don't your craps table shortly after winning just $1.00 above my chips.
Before even offering such a challenge, you need to step back and plan it properly. Maybe say after 2000 rolls, you must have at least 1000.00 above your chip stack for an example.
I don't play the passline, so if It was optional in this contest, I would not bet it.
Also flat betting is impossible to win, you will lose 100%.
there are 6 ways to roll a seven and 30 ways to make other numbers.
Progressive betting is the only option in this contest.
Flat betting at a craps table is a BAD IDEA and will lose 100% in 2000 rolls.
IF YOU START WITH 10K CHIP STACK
IF YOU BET ONLY ONE NUMBER
2000 ROLLS
MUST SHOW 11,000 OR MORE
You will lose and i will win, over and over and over.
