dicesitter
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December 17th, 2014 at 1:55:02 PM permalink
SEE


THIS post is why we no longer talk about it.

This is the same type of response we get from deer hunters. we have a 60 acre parcel and a 120 acre parcel, small
parcels, and people have been saying for years you cant grow decent bucks and keep them on such small parcels, well
we have over 50 very nice head mounts to prove them wrong, but still we hear the same crap.

But then again they believed they could keep their doctors.......

dicesetter
ontariodealer
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December 17th, 2014 at 1:56:00 PM permalink
"Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting"

maybe you could explain this?????
get second you pig
ontariodealer
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December 17th, 2014 at 1:58:57 PM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

SEE


THIS post is why we no longer talk about it.

This is the same type of response we get from deer hunters. we have a 60 acre parcel and a 120 acre parcel, small
parcels, and people have been saying for years you cant grow decent bucks and keep them on such small parcels, well
we have over 50 very nice head mounts to prove them wrong, but still we hear the same crap.

But then again they believed they could keep their doctors.......

dicesetter



I like this deer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GNwjkg7ho
get second you pig
dicesitter
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December 17th, 2014 at 3:56:55 PM permalink
that is cool , good material for next years deer camp along with the movie moon lite over Escanaba.

This year in Iowa we had to kill a deer with a knife because it had Andy pinned in the river..

thanks for the post

dicesetter
Kerkebet
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December 17th, 2014 at 6:11:49 PM permalink
Quote: superrick

But now days that is all you have when you are talking about casino management. These guys need to go back to school and learn how to run a casino. Maybe that is why we are now seeing casinos closing down. They are running off losers that are just getting lucky, that they feel are a threat to their bottom line, because they are setting the dice.



Well, the more you try to keep the dice one way, were such even reasonably possible - as controlled rotation, or controlled translation - the more it hurts you in one way or another.

The empirical take on all the bouncing, etc, is similar to roulette. If you stretched out all the hopelessly uncontrollable motions and energies involved in the bouncing, the dice - small light pieces of low-grade plastic - actually travel much farther than the intuitive 10 feet or so. Nobody would presume to throw them 50 feet with any degree or type of accuracy.
Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.
dicesitter
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December 19th, 2014 at 9:05:23 AM permalink
Kerebet




Dice control is a myth.. period there is no such thing. But you can influence aspects of your play.

But when you get on a board like this, people feel empowered at the key board to demand that if one
calls himself a DI which is a dumb word in the first place, or dice controller or AP player that person needs
to prove something.

To me this is a childlike demand.... look at everything else in life, if you go golfing your a golfer, or a hunter
or a fisherman, we don't demand of them that they par every course, or kill every deer or catch every fish...

But in the world of craps a person that says they are a DI or dice controller or AP player seems to hurt everyone
else's feelings...no way that person cant be better than me... cant be, so a demand is made to prove it...

It has nothing to do with better.. it has to do with trying to put as many things in your favor as possible.

If we just thought of ourselves as craps players, we could have a decent conversation on here about any
aspect of craps.

dicesetter
superrick
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December 19th, 2014 at 10:01:31 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

Kerebet

Dice control is a myth.. period there is no such thing. But you can influence aspects of your play.

But when you get on a board like this, people feel empowered at the key board to demand that if one
calls himself a DI which is a dumb word in the first place, or dice controller or AP player that person needs
to prove something.

To me this is a childlike demand.... look at everything else in life, if you go golfing your a golfer, or a hunter
or a fisherman, we don't demand of them that they par every course, or kill every deer or catch every fish...

But in the world of craps a person that says they are a DI or dice controller or AP player seems to hurt everyone
else's feelings...no way that person cant be better than me... cant be, so a demand is made to prove it...

It has nothing to do with better.. it has to do with trying to put as many things in your favor as possible.

If we just thought of ourselves as craps players, we could have a decent conversation on here about any
aspect of craps.
dicesetter


Dicesetter you have to remember why anybody is even questioning anything about being a so-called DI and that is because of all the fiction that is written to help sell DI classes and books.

These guys went to great extremes with what they wrote, like the SRR of 28 or shooting.

The below link is a good read for anybody that wants to see what fiction is all about, it is written by a guy that says he is a DI that nobody has ever met in all of the years that he has been writing, he claimed to have that SRR of 28. He had many followers, before we started to question everything that he wrote.

Everybody is looking for the magic bullet, and he fit right in, hell I even bought his book. But after reading it couldn't stop questioning what he wrote!
The casinos believe this kind of BS and have done everything they could think of to put a stop to something they didn't have to worry about, all they had to do was look at any slow-motion videos of the dice bouncing all over the place once they hit the tables.

http://www.dicesetter.com/mp/dmad81askmp18.htm

When it comes to the dice hitting the tables all you have to do is go back in this thread to see all of the videos I posted.

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/dice-setting/20287-and-the-crowd-is-silenced/3/

Now I've played craps with Dicesetter and guess what he gets on some really good rolls, but like me he knows that you can't do it every time you go to the tables. That is where smart betting comes into play and knowing when to leave the tables.

No,... we are not like the great fictional characters that these fiction writers write about. But if there were five guys on the same table that I was on, I would be betting on Dicesetter. If he wasn't having a good day I wouldn't have any chips on him, it's that simple.

I think the slow-motion videos tell the real story about some shooters that that everybody calls DI's, and that is the casinos have nothing to fear about them, we all get lucky and you don't have to be a dice setter to have good rolls. The so-called random roller's just don't have craps boards where they can brag about their great rolls and they don't write fiction to sell a DI craps school!

You have to remember the way these great fiction writers get away with what they write is they run off anybody that questions what they are writing!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
Kerkebet
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December 19th, 2014 at 11:02:23 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

Dice control is a myth.. period there is no such thing. But you can influence aspects of your play.


Yes, that is a practical and fun way to look at it.

Quote: superrick

But like me he knows that you can't do it every time you go to the tables. That is where smart betting comes into play and knowing when to leave the tables.


Gambler's fallacy is what can't be measured or quantified.

Nothing to disprove either.
Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.
odiousgambit
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December 19th, 2014 at 2:04:36 PM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

that is cool , good material for next years deer camp along with the movie moon lite over Escanaba.

This year in Iowa we had to kill a deer with a knife because it had Andy pinned in the river..

thanks for the post

dicesetter



I only seem to hear these stories where the deer have lost their fear of humans

what happened to Andy?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
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December 19th, 2014 at 2:33:49 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Dice influencing is possible but discussing it here is impossible.



Then why don't you try to discuss it on your board then, Alan?

You used to love craps; heck you even married one of your wives at the craps table at Caesars.

You don't have a section devoted to craps or dice setting: why not?
"What, me worry?"

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