and the crowd is silenced....

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I assume the above picture, etc, is from his own site.

No, Alan first posted it sometime ago, either here or on another board.

I didn't bookmark it, but it is easy enough to google up.

FWIW, I did not post it to embarrass Alan: far from it.

I think it's probably one of the coolest things any member of this forum has done to date.

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I think it's probably one of the coolest things any member of this forum has done to date.

I think that you guys are confusing honesty and endearment with the truth, whatever that is.


Add on: Should he be embarrassed, V? You seem to be skirting around it.

Alan's alright give the guy a break for goodness sake. He puts himself out there so at least He'se got enough balls to do that. I think he's a nice guy.

My opinion is that the topic runs out of steam every time Ahigh resigns from the forum.

Question for the audience: What is the ratio of money made selling books, classes, private lessons, etc. on how to influence dice to money made actually doing it?

So is this going to be another one of those discussions about the meaning of infinity?

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So is this going to be another one of those discussions about the meaning of infinity?

Infinity doesn't exist so how could it have meaning?

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My opinion is that the topic runs out of steam every time Ahigh resigns from the forum.

Question for the audience: What is the ratio of money made selling books, classes, private lessons, etc. on how to influence dice to money made actually doing it?

Good question, that is very simple to answered. These on axis DI school make their money by selling their schools, they even go so low as charging for their students to go to the tables with them, so they get their buy-in from their students, no reason to risk the money they just made off their students.

They no longer call it a hook-up fee. They changed the name to an “After Glow” fee, no I'm not making this up. When I heard it I was laughing so hard I was crying!

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Looking for an “after-glow” live session with Heavy and Howard? We’ll play
one last live casino session Sunday afternoon at 5:00 PM. This sessions is
slated to last for approximately one hour. Cost of the session is $119 per
person. These sessions are ONLY available to students who sign on for one
of the Dealer School sessions. Again, we’re limiting the number of players
to 8 for this session. Once we have 8 players signed on we’ll be full up.

Money is to be made selling anything that these schools can can think up!

When you read the trip reports that the players give after they took a class, they all lost money. Their heroes even go out of their way to make sure that their students don't expect to win money when they pay them to participate in their “After Glow” session. But the only problem is that their students would have to look in a different thread to find that information.

It all boils down to one thing and that is the slow motions videos that we now have as the dice bounce, twist and roll all over the place when the dice hit the tables. No on axis craps school has ever produced a video in slow motion that shows their dice staying on axis!

If they were making all of the money they claim to make, they wouldn't waste their time teaching others to do the same thing.

So 99% of their money is made off of anything they can sell and maybe just maybe 1 % is made on the craps tables! Nobody can gain a advantage from their shooting on a craps table, the best looking shot I ever made was a seven-out! You can't change the house advantage when you are playing craps. It will always be a very constant edge, you may get lucky because of variance but if you continue to play you will give it back, if your shooting is the only thing you have in your bag of tricks.

If you don't know how to bet the game or when to leave, you give back what you won. The variance of the game never stays constant. You simply enter the game when it is on one side or the other.

These craps schools know that and that is why they need to charge a “After Glow” they know without it they would give back to the casinos what they just made on their class. For arguments sake some of you will say, look I once saw one of these instructors get on a fifty roll, and while that may be true, I would remind you that there are fifty rolls,..rolled by the so-called random rollers all the time, the only difference is they do not have craps board that they can write about it!

If you want to make money when one of these craps schools are in Vegas, just go to the same table and bet the don't. Once one of them has a PSO or a very short roll, they fall like bowling pins when someone makes a strike. Yes you can get lucky and win at craps but it's not like what you will read in some of these master pieces of fiction you read in some of the DI craps books and their craps boards.

These guys don't always lose.

I was at Bellagio when Dice Coach was playing, and he colored up ahead.

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These guys don't always lose.

I was at Bellagio when Dice Coach was playing, and he colored up ahead.

I was there when a random roller had a 50 some roll, so what. I see random rollers winning everyday. Most craps players will get lucky at some time when they are throwing the dice! Did you ever think that he was getting lucky?

Kerkebet, I have a gambling problem when I lose.