DJTeddyBear
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December 5th, 2014 at 7:12:26 AM permalink
I think the argument merely either ran it's course, or ran out of steam.
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AxelWolf
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December 5th, 2014 at 8:09:51 AM permalink
By now, i'm sure all the guys who were getting lucky started ramping up there bets. They probably all finally went broke.

I believe it was the fact that Ahigh gave the impression that he gave up, since it wasn't viable. And now he faces what many consider an addiction.

All the evidence debunks DI. Their best evidence, the slow motion video it is their worst evidence. Most respectable gaming authority has at minimum said it's not really something you can make money at.

Even if you think its possible to influence the dice under perfect conditions. You have to admit that its next to impossible to get close to the right conditions in the casinos.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
dicesitter
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December 5th, 2014 at 8:22:54 AM permalink
great



That is my Christmas wish, I hope every casino in America believes what Axelwolf just said ..perfect.

smiling... Dicesetter
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December 5th, 2014 at 8:35:09 AM permalink
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That is my Christmas wish, I hope every casino in America believes what Axelwolf just said ..perfect. smiling... Dicesetter



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AxelWolf
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December 5th, 2014 at 9:00:12 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

great



That is my Christmas wish, I hope every casino in America believes what Axelwolf just said ..perfect.

smiling... Dicesetter

Then why the comment? Why be facetious (if that's the right word. You get the point)?

It would make more sense (unless you are selling something) to just come out and say, you have also come to the conclusion its not possible. Especially with casinos leaning that way, why put any doubt in their heads?

What better than a former DI advocate to change his stance? All "DI's" should help discredit the possibly.

I'll even jump on board with discrediting all forms of AP if we can somehow change the math and kill off all the authorities on the subject.

You have a huge benefit since there's no math or real evidence it works. Mostly its regarded as a myth.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
wudged
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December 5th, 2014 at 11:31:56 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Then why the comment? Why be facetious (if that's the right word. You get the point)?

It would make more sense (unless you are selling something) to just come out and say, you have also come to the conclusion its not possible. Especially with casinos leaning that way, why put any doubt in their heads?

What better than a former DI advocate to change his stance? All "DI's" should help discredit the possibly.

I'll even jump on board with discrediting all forms of AP if we can somehow change the math and kill off all the authorities on the subject.

You have a huge benefit since there's no math or real evidence it works. Mostly its regarded as a myth.



His comment was because he still believes in it and wants casinos to stop giving heat over it.
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December 5th, 2014 at 1:32:10 PM permalink
Were there ever enough believers around that it could qualify as a "crowd" at one time? Leaving out the effect of any with multiple personalities conversing with themselves, that is.
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December 5th, 2014 at 8:04:13 PM permalink
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Were there ever enough believers around that it could qualify as a "crowd" at one time? Leaving out the effect of any with multiple personalities conversing with themselves, that is.



I would say yes, there were, about 1/2 dozen or so who were quite prolific about it.
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AxelWolf
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December 6th, 2014 at 4:55:35 AM permalink
Quote: wudged

His comment was because he still believes in it and wants casinos to stop giving heat over it.

I completely understand his comment. It was meant to say we are foolish for not believing and hopes the casinos are just as foolish.

If he really wanted casinos to stop the "heat", he would quit implying its possible. That's what his comment implied.

He should have +1ed my comment.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
superrick
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December 7th, 2014 at 10:38:05 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I completely understand his comment. It was meant to say we are foolish for not believing and hopes the casinos are just as foolish.

If he really wanted casinos to stop the "heat", he would quit implying its possible. That's what his comment implied.

He should have +1ed my comment.


So-called DI's are their worst enemies, they want everybody to believe all the fiction that is written about becoming a so-called DI. They buy into the on axis BS that their dice stay on axis!
Well if they do why can't they produce a few videos on them doing it? These so-called DI's complain about all of the heat they get, but they never complain about the guys that are writing they had a SRR of 28 or they took a cool half million dollars off the table with a $2000 buy-in.

If you think that you are a DI you should just shut up and do your thing, why do you want anybody to think you can beat the tables?????????

Back when everybody was making money it was an easy sell for these on axis DI schools to sell what they were doing. They produced some very slick videos, where you did not see the real out-comes of the dice. You just heard them calling out the numbers.

They had everybody that was looking for that magic bullet buying into what they were selling. They had the great fiction writers that made it sound like anybody could win at craps, all you needed to do was take one of their courses in dice control. Those schools were laughing all the way to the bank.

Those on axis DI schools still use fiction writers to sell what they are doing, and they do a fine job of writing fiction too!

When you see them in Vegas they are stinking up the tables, but when you read their trip reports they all made money. One of there favorite ploys is to write about their trips to the casinos when there is no one to witness what they have done.

These fiction writers will write there great fiction about a three day comp trip to Macau that they took and their followers will eat it up, or about all of the comp concerts and fine food they eat that is all comped.

They post photos of high end cars like they are theirs, that they ripped off the internet, anything to keep their follows coming back for more of their great fiction.

The truth of the matter is the dice bounce all over the place when they hit the tables, so that means that everybody is just random. If you think differently please post a few slow motion videos of the dice staying on axis, I bet you can't do it!

Sure the dice may end up on what they would say is on axis, but they never really did stay on axis and if they took slow motion videos of these so-call random rollers their dice would do the same thing.

You are throwing square cubes 4 to 6 ft down the tables and when they hit they bounce, twist and flip all over the place!
The slow motion videos prove that the dice do not stay on axis, why do you think that these so-call experts do not have any videos of their dice staying on axis?
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