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Boz
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September 23rd, 2013 at 1:52:08 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

I don't believe you. I think you are writing lies. Maybe you believe them, but I still think you are a lying.



Prime example of how you operate in stating he is "lying", but you are not calling him a liar.

I am starting the clock!
Boz
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September 23rd, 2013 at 1:57:07 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

The most likely dice table to ban you is the table that is hurting the most financially.

They want stupid people at the table making prop bets and crap checks and hi-lo's. You can even get banned for just winning too much if you go full-on-10x odds and take $100,000 or more from a casino that has $1,000 limits. They say "we don't want your action."

They can't put you in jail for not hitting the back wall, as far as I know, even if you get paid.

Once you let go of those dice and they both fly through the air and bounce down on the table and even have a chance at hitting the back wall, you're going to get paid for that if you get a favorable outcome.

But they can and will ban anyone they don't want to play, here in Nevada. They didn't give me a reason for banning me at Fiesta. They said, "we are not comfortable with your play."

I had been making $300 bets (their max) prior to them saying this to me. They cater to people who bet hop bets over there and it's a $3 table. They didn't like me there is why I think they banned me, no matter what the details.



That we can agree on, they probably didnt want that level of action and you described exactly who they want playing there. I agree not to read too much into that incident. But Alan makes good points as well in that it is their casino, their rules.

But none of that adds anything to the fantasy of Dice Control. But it also does nothing to prove if we really landed on the moon or not, or if GW Bush did actually set bombs in the Towers on 9/11. All three theories have their believers, yet most take them for what they really are.
Zcore13
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September 23rd, 2013 at 1:57:44 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Prime example of how you operate in stating he is "lying", but you are not calling him a liar.

I am starting the clock!



Prime example of him posting and then changing the content by editing after.

Tick tick tick tick...

ZCore13
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Ahigh
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September 23rd, 2013 at 2:04:49 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Prime example of him posting and then changing the content by editing after.

Tick tick tick tick...

ZCore13



That's because I fix my mistakes instead of boldly standing behind what are obviously mistakes.

If you were concerned with the accuracy of what you wrote, you might edit some things yourself.

Maybe there's a lesson in there for you.
Ahigh
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September 23rd, 2013 at 2:09:07 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

There is no such thing as dice control on a legal shot.



This is an obviously false statement. I don't doubt that you believe what you wrote here. But any truth you might believe in this statement is hinged on the definition of both "legal shot" and "dice control."

A short roll must not be a legal shot? Or did you mean to say "allowable shot." Short rolls, in my view, are 100% legal and get paid EVERY SINGLE DAY, and they can in fact exhibit a player edge, and the casinos that actually have dice tables in them will readily admit this.

Your statement, in order to be true, implies that the instant someone performed dice control they would be breaking a law.

It's just hogwash and demonstrative of your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Dice control, for it to exist, does not even have to be something that anyone is conscious of. I'm not sure you have contemplated this.

Just not believing in something (as you choose not to) does not make something non-existent.

Your thought process, which many others also have similar processes to this, are simply flawed.
Zcore13
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September 23rd, 2013 at 2:10:34 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

That's because I fix my mistakes instead of boldly standing behind what are obviously mistakes.

If you were concerned with the accuracy of what you wrote, you might edit some things yourself.

Maybe there's a lesson in there for you.



You don't edit. You add and change content.

For all of your claims that everyone is wring and everyone always lies and all the time and money you have spent on control, what are you left with? Luck? Nice job.

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thecesspit
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September 23rd, 2013 at 2:12:06 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

I don't believe you. I think you are writing lies. Maybe you believe them, but I still think you are a lying.



A lie has to be intentional.

If he believes what he writes, but is wrong, that's not lie. That's an incorrect belief. You would be incorrect therefore to think he is lying (but not lying about thinking he's lying, of course, just being incorrect).
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
Ahigh
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September 23rd, 2013 at 2:12:41 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

You don't edit. You add and change content.

For all of your claims that everyone is wring and everyone always lies and all the time and money you have spent on control, what are you left with? Luck? Nice job.

ZCore13



On nearly every single post. It's not against the rules either and I offer no apologies for my doing it.

You are absolutely a critic of mine. You are critic without proper knowledge to be so critical as you are. I would encourage your criticism if it were more properly informed, but it isn't.
Ahigh
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September 23rd, 2013 at 2:14:40 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

A lie has to be intentional.

If he believes what he writes, but is wrong, that's not lie. That's an incorrect belief. You would be incorrect therefore to think he is lying (but not lying about thinking he's lying, of course, just being incorrect).



http://painintheenglish.com/case/4779

I'm not so sure. I think that there may be intent to deceive regardless of his beliefs.

If he were more interested to know the truth he wouldn't be so combative with me.

Regardless of what he believes, his knowledge does not keep pace with his bold claims.
Zcore13
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September 23rd, 2013 at 2:16:07 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

This is an obviously false statement. I don't doubt that you believe what you wrote here. But any truth you might believe in this statement is hinged on the definition of both "legal shot" and "dice control."

A short roll must not be a legal shot? Or did you mean to say "allowable shot." Short rolls, in my view, are 100% legal and get paid EVERY SINGLE DAY, and they can in fact exhibit a player edge, and the casinos that actually have dice tables in them will readily admit this.

Your statement, in order to be true, implies that the instant someone performed dice control they would be breaking a law.

It's just hogwash and demonstrative of your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Dice control, for it to exist, does not even have to be something that anyone is conscious of. I'm not sure you have contemplated this.

Just not believing in something (as you choose not to) does not make something non-existent.

Your thought process, which many others also have similar processes to this, are simply flawed.



You really should learn the game. Short rolls are not a legal shot. They might be allowed sometimes, just like driving over the speed limit, but neither is legal. It's too bad you lose so much money on a game you you can't seem to understand. Casinos love your type.

ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.

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