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RS
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May 6th, 2015 at 5:55:07 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks for all the comments. Let's keep it coming.

I'd like to say that I'm very open to evidence of any foul play, especially eight standard deviations south of expectations.

Regarding hand history, a casino rep told me in the chat box that one can be requested via Email. Lots of casinos don't automatically offer them but any legitimate one should be able to provide them upon request. So far I haven't requested one as my play was on the unlucky side but nothing remarkable.

Yes, there is a huge play requirement, but with the player advantage, it shouldn't be an issue. For the new player 444%/333%/555% bonuses, the requirement is 33x the deposit + bonus and blackjack play counts on 20%. So 165x the deposit + bonus. Also, the deposit is "sticky," meaning they deduct from any withdrawal. Bonus rules.

Regarding the "too good to be true" comments, in the early days of Internet gambling Unified Gaming had a blackjack game with a 0.5% advantage that lasted for about five years. I think the rules were the same as these, except no doubling on 3+ cards.



No idea where you're reading that.

But essentially, you gotta do 289,410 coin in on the BJ game to be able to cash out.......which is something like 20 hours? Ew..
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May 6th, 2015 at 6:06:13 PM permalink
So I'm playing JoB again... I was just dealt: 2-3-A-5-4... it tried to auto hold just the 2-3-5-4... but I held the ace as well. So what happened when I hit draw? It said I loss. It didn't pay me for 2-3-A-5-4...a straight. I'm asking support about it right now.

Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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May 6th, 2015 at 6:19:39 PM permalink
Who the f*ck is Harvey in the chat-screen? Mother f*cker keeps annoying me...
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May 6th, 2015 at 6:24:10 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

So I'm playing JoB again... I was just dealt: 2-3-A-5-4... it tried to auto hold just the 2-3-5-4... but I held the ace as well. So what happened when I hit draw? It said I loss. It didn't pay me for 2-3-A-5-4...a straight. I'm asking support about it right now.



This site looks shady as fuck.
RS
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May 6th, 2015 at 6:36:02 PM permalink
I just gambled on black, red hit, and it paid me. ???
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May 6th, 2015 at 6:41:52 PM permalink
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But essentially, you gotta do 289,410 coin in on the BJ game to be able to cash out.......which is something like 20 hours? Ew..


A host confirmed that this is the case, if you play it all in Blackjack. Wish I had known that going in.
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May 6th, 2015 at 6:51:29 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

A host confirmed that this is the case, if you play it all in Blackjack. Wish I had known that going in.

Just bet like $200-$300 a hand, bust out, and then redeem another bonus. Eventually you'll win big. Then grind down whatever play requirement is left.
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May 6th, 2015 at 6:53:37 PM permalink
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Just bet like $200-$300 a hand, bust out, and then redeem another bonus. Eventually you'll win big. Then grind down whatever play requirement is left.



Max is $20 bet on this game.
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May 6th, 2015 at 7:05:51 PM permalink
For the record, when I realized how much playthrough I had to do to cash out, I decided to start playing $100 hands on Royal Blackjack (the other game Wizard said was player advantage). Didn't win one hand. Make of that what you will.
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May 6th, 2015 at 7:28:59 PM permalink
So.

Bought in for 200. Used the 777 bonus for a balance of $1754.

First 100 hands of Classic, flat betting $10, strictly following the Wizard's chart on page 1 of this thread.

Player Blackjacks = 4
Dealer Blackjacks = 2
Wins = 44
Losses = 41
Surrenders = 10
Pushes = 7
Splits = 1 hand, split decision.
Doubles = 4 hands won all 4, including a 3 card dbl.

Ending bal $1804. Playthrough $1050. +$50 for that session.

Photos below of what's available on statistics for that session. (Scrolling was required: tables are grouped together).

Can't find anywhere on the website where it tells me my playthrough, so it's possible I don't agree with their number. (Bovada lists that right in your account info as you play; these folks should do the same.)















hopefully this is helpful. Are the stats worth the trouble to post the pictures, or is the aggregate enough info?
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