Vegas Vacation with AOS
Quote: strictlyAPanyone know the true odds of a 9 card twenty one? has to be more then the odds of breaking on 8 cards which pays 250 one on the buster side bet bonus
I found this
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/9244-7-card-21-for-dealer-probabilities/#post135058
Quote: aceofspadesBuzz I don't need this right now ok
If not now WHEN ? ? ?
I posted about buying a round trip ticket before you made you first bet !
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is INSANITY.
Speed Count, Ploppies ruining the flow of cards, mean dealers, etc.
Talk about a recipe for depression. You owe the man in the mirror better than this ! ! ! ! !
Quote: strictlyAPanyone know the true odds of a 9 card twenty one? has to be more then the odds of breaking on 8 cards which pays 250 one on the buster side bet bonus
1 in 2,200,000.
Quote: Greasyjohn1 in 2,200,000.
That pretty much squares with my trip
Quote: Greasyjohn1 in 2,200,000.
I was just trying to sleep. I've had a cold for a week. Had this thought that it would take 8 years of playing blackjack continuously to play 2,200,000 hands. Woke up and did the math and it's pretty close. I once got 4 blackjacks in a row. Figured it would take about half a year of continuous play to do that. Some day I hope to get the following hand: 5,5,5,ace,5 in a SD game.
Quote: GreasyjohnI was just trying to sleep. I've had a cold for a week. Had this thought that it would take 8 years of playing blackjack continuously to play 2,200,000 hands. Woke up and did the math and it's pretty close. I once got 4 blackjacks in a row. Figured it would take about half a year of continuous play to do that. Some day I hope to get the following hand: 5,5,5,ace,5 in a SD game.
Wishing you positive vibes
Quote: aceofspadesThat pretty much squares with my trip
A few years ago Stratosphere had coupons in their fun book that would double your 3:2 blackjack win up to $25. So if you bet $17 a hand the blackjack would pay $25.50 and they'd give you an extra $25. I played $25 a hand for one hour, heads-up and lost $1,000. Left the table having not gotten one blackjack, coupon in hand. If I had been betting $250 a hand (your average bet, Ace) I would have lost $10,000 in that one hour.
average "Joe" going to Vegas likely costs him two weeks wages for his vacation /gambling trip and that's if his wife doesn't find out about him picking up the Mermaid's gal and file for divorce
Quote: coilman$300 an hour 40 hour week = $12,000
average "Joe" going to Vegas likely costs him two weeks wages for his vacation /gambling trip and that's if his wife doesn't find out about him picking up the Mermaid's gal and file for divorce
I hope you are not implying that attorneys earn 12k/week?
Quote: coilman$300 an hour 40 hour week = $12,000
average "Joe" going to Vegas likely costs him two weeks wages for his vacation /gambling trip and that's if his wife doesn't find out about him picking up the Mermaid's gal and file for divorce
Ace bets $100 to $500 a hand, so average bet is $250.
Quote: aceofspadesI hope you are not implying that attorneys earn 12k/week?
nawwwww no attorneys make $624k a year.
Quote: aceofspadesI hope you are not implying that attorneys earn 12k/week?
Agreed, that'd be like implying that auto mechanics earn $4,000/week (and therefore $200,000/year) because the body shop charges $100/hour for labor.
Even if an attorney does bill out at $300, that's gross (not net) and it's not full-time, 40 hours/week, 50 weeks/year.
Quote: GWAEnawwwww no attorneys make $624k a year.
The ones that do don't bill at $300/hour.
Quote: GWAEnawwwww no attorneys make $624k a year.
I bet glen Lerner does. In a wreck and need a check? One call, that's all.
He's some big shot attorney with an unlimited budget in advertising.
Quote: MathExtremistThe ones that do don't bill at $300/hour.
They are partners at big law firms
Quote: MathExtremistAgreed, that'd be like implying that auto mechanics earn $4,000/week (and therefore $200,000/year) because the body shop charges $100/hour for labor.
Even if an attorney does bill out at $300, that's gross (not net) and it's not full-time, 40 hours/week, 50 weeks/year.
Exactly!
Quote: MathExtremistAgreed, that'd be like implying that auto mechanics earn $4,000/week (and therefore $200,000/year) because the body shop charges $100/hour for labor.
Even if an attorney does bill out at $300, that's gross (not net) and it's not full-time, 40 hours/week, 50 weeks/year.
Actually there are firms that expect attorneys to bill 40 hrs per week (at least, that's what I've been told). Of course, they don't get all that money!
Having said that, some attorneys make a lot more that that, but most make a lot less.
I know nothing about speed count, how often do you take insurance with that system? Sounds like the dealers had a ton of BJs. I have to think there were some missed opportunities using a stronger count. What would have happened with a stronger count?.
Looking back at all the extreme things that happened you you this trip. many, many losing hands in a row multiple times, 8 card 21's, Dealers getting 20, 21 and BJ 11 or 12 times in a row, im sure someone can calculate the odds of all this happening. Perhaps this is a good lesson for some of the System players who win for a long time on horrible games and think they are invincible to Math.
I sense A few raised eye browns concerning the odds of all this, some math may put this in perspective to show this can and will happen.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceActually there are firms that expect attorneys to bill 40 hrs per week (at least, that's what I've been told). Of course, they don't get all that money!
Having said that, some attorneys make a lot more that that, but most make a lot less.
Billing 40 means being in the office at least 80
Quote: aceofspadesBilling 40 means being in the office at least 80
Yeah I have heard that too :)
I am glad I did not become a lawyer.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceActually there are firms that expect attorneys to bill 40 hrs per week (at least, that's what I've been told). Of course, they don't get all that money!
Having said that, some attorneys make a lot more that that, but most make a lot less.
Yes, the mechanics at a large law practice are different. I'm assuming Ace is a sole practitioner, like I am (not in law, but same idea): we only earn when we work. Attorneys (especially associates) and other staff in larger practices often draw salaries from the pool of revenue generated from all the cases/clients. Big practices can usually plan well enough to have enough work so the associates can indeed bill 40 hours/week. It's no different than any other large company, or a doctor's office -- only a few people actually "make" the money directly, but you still pay the employees.
Running solo, or in a small firm, is a very different structure. I almost never have a week with exactly 40 hours of client work to do. Often it's less (or zero), sometimes it's way, way more.
Quote: MathExtremistYes, the mechanics at a large law practice are different. I'm assuming Ace is a sole practitioner, like I am (not in law, but same idea): we only earn when we work. Attorneys (especially associates) and other staff in larger practices often draw salaries from the pool of revenue generated from all the cases/clients. Big practices can usually plan well enough to have enough work so the associates can indeed bill 40 hours/week. It's no different than any other large company, or a doctor's office -- only a few people actually "make" the money directly, but you still pay the employees.
Running solo, or in a small firm, is a very different structure. I almost never have a week with exactly 40 hours of client work to do. Often it's less (or zero), sometimes it's way, way more.
I go months without a new client sometimes then sometimes get 4 in a week---solo work is very feast or famine
Asked many times, never really answered !
Quote:Billing 40 means being in the office at least 80
Only if you're inefficient and honest.
A crooked lawyer died and went before Saint Peter for judgment.
"Wow" exclaimed Saint Peter, "You look so young! Reviewing the billings you posted on your time sheets over the years, I expected you'd be at least 120."
Why don't you try the machine that slides quarters over a precipice? Or go to Ellis Island for their FREE 9:00am one bingo sheet game? Free beverages and pastries too, I hear. They turn the oxygen on real early there!Quote: aceofspadesYes I refuse to make a bad situation worse
Ask the Floorman or Pit Boss.Quote: aceofspadesWow asked host for 10% back in free play and was denied
I know this is a gambling forum with many mathematicians, programmers, card counters, controlled dice throwers, even people who think they could find a biased roulette wheel today. Personally, I think there’s nothing here but a lot of smoke being blown up each others asses.
It’s a great site for rookies to learn how to lose their money the slowest way possible. But 99% of everyone here will become if not already are a loser. Of course there’ll always be the stories like that recent thread of a person coming home with 250K, (hope he starts a thread when he gives it all back, which is easy at those stakes) or the guy that hit a Mega Jackpot, or some 100 million dollar lottery.
I’ve gambled my entire adult life and still do today. I even had the balls to buy several thoroughbreds in New York. Fortunately, I was able to finance this level of what was once a lot of fun, but I certainly wish today I had all that wasted money.
I even gave online video poker a good run, thinking how nice it would be to sit on my fat ass and have some fun. This eventually became my stupidest gambling adventure with all the rigged shit being exposed and the bullshit when it was time to get paid.
I got into live poker about a decade ago and only wish I did it sooner. Today poker is much harder then it was years ago, but I still see it as your only real chance of consistently being ahead.
I’m over sixty now and have done it all in the past. Now I play at least 15 big tournaments a year. All you hope for is to finish at least in the top 9 or better once and your year of buy-ins are covered and usually with a profit. Now if you win one your really in good shape. I also play twice a month at a private country club with some serious purses. Most of these players have money and are by no means serious poker players, which makes cashing a common result.
When I’m at land based casinos I never sit at any tables, and will only play video poker if I have time or get knocked out of a tournament early.
If you can’t go to a casino for a weekend or even a week with a controlled amount of money and have a good time gambling along with shows, food, woman (or wife) etc. then unless you have crazy deep pockets you’re doomed.
Quote: 4ofaKindI followed this whole thread and can relate to that empty feeling after getting endlessly beat up at the tables.
I know this is a gambling forum with many mathematicians, programmers, card counters, controlled dice throwers, even people who think they could find a biased roulette wheel today. Personally, I think there’s nothing here but a lot of smoke being blown up each others asses.
It’s a great site for rookies to learn how to lose their money the slowest way possible. But 99% of everyone here will become if not already are a loser. Of course there’ll always be the stories like that recent thread of a person coming home with 250K, (hope he starts a thread when he gives it all back, which is easy at those stakes) or the guy that hit a Mega Jackpot, or some 100 million dollar lottery.
I’ve gambled my entire adult life and still do today. I even had the balls to buy several thoroughbreds in New York. Fortunately, I was able to finance this level of what was once a lot of fun, but I certainly wish today I had all that wasted money.
I even gave online video poker a good run, thinking how nice it would be to sit on my fat ass and have some fun. This eventually became my stupidest gambling adventure with all the rigged shit being exposed and the bullshit when it was time to get paid.
I got into live poker about a decade ago and only wish I did it sooner. Today poker is much harder then it was years ago, but I still see it as your only real chance of consistently being ahead.
I’m over sixty now and have done it all in the past. Now I play at least 15 big tournaments a year. All you hope for is to finish at least in the top 9 or better once and your year of buy-ins are covered and usually with a profit. Now if you win one your in good shape. I also play twice a month at a private country club with some serious purses. Most of these players have money and are by no means serious poker players, which makes cashing a common result.
When I’m at land based casinos I never sit at any tables, and will only play video poker if I have time or get knocked out of a tournament early.
If you can’t go to a casino for a weekend or even a week with a controlled amount of money and have a good time gambling along with shows, food, woman (or wife) etc. then unless you have crazy deep pockets you’re doomed.
Well, I don't blow smoke. I count, play index plays, and never play hunches, and I'm a winner. And I go south. 61% winning trips, thank you very much. I play and accept that I can lose badly, and it doesn't affect me badly if it happens, because it usually doesn't. Counting and index plays is a lot of work for a 1% or so advantage, but some people could increase their advantage by 1.39% by just playing 3:2 and that takes no work at all--and they still don't do it. I've seen people play blackjack for $15 a hand, and on every hand they place a tip-wager of $3 for the dealer. The dealer, of course, doesn't obsequiously thank the player, lest they awaken to the fact that they're the main contributor to their two childrens' college fund. Saw a guy at Tuscany some years ago playing like this, his name was George ( actually the subject of my comment) and he commented on how he tried to live up to his name. I should tell the pit to call me by my British name: Notdumbham.
Quote:If you can’t go to a casino for a weekend or even a week with a controlled amount of money and have a good time gambling along with shows, food, woman (or wife) etc. then unless you have crazy deep pockets you’re doomed.
Baloney.
I do that all the time.
All it takes is discipline.
As for poker: meh, not my cuppa.
.Quote: GreasyjohnWell, I don't blow smoke. I count, play index plays, and never play hunches, and I'm a winner. And I go south. 61% winning trips, thank you very much. I play and accept that I can lose badly, and it doesn't affect me badly if it happens, because it usually doesn't. Counting and index plays is a lot of work for a 1% or so advantage, but some people could increase their advantage by 1.39% by just playing 3:2 and that takes no work at all--and they still don't do it. I've seen people play blackjack for $15 a hand, and on every hand they place a tip-wager of $3 for the dealer. The dealer, of course, doesn't obsequiously thank the player, lest they awaken to the fact that they're the main contributor to their two childrens' college fund. Saw a guy at Tuscany some years ago playing like this, his name was George ( actually the subject of my comment) and he commented on how he tried to live up to his name. I should tell the pit to call me by my British name: Notdumbham.
Now, if you don' t think this is delicious then you're not hungry.
I know posting the gory details serves as a venting mechanism, but it also leaves you open to incessant needling from the peanut gallery. Regardless, it's threads like these that foster the camaraderie of this forum.
So, thanks for sharing. And if you decided to buckle up and give it another shot before you head back east, you'd have at least one supporter. Can't help but feel like the shoe that's gonna turn everything around is just waiting for you...
Quote: MrVOnly if you're inefficient and honest.
A crooked lawyer died and went before Saint Peter for judgment.
"Wow" exclaimed Saint Peter, "You look so young! Reviewing the billings you posted on your time sheets over the years, I expected you'd be at least 120."
Lolol
I hate billing hours.Quote: aceofspadesLolol
Probably that's why I got a job where I don't have to bill hours.
Quote: gts4everAce, for what it's worth I really enjoyed the ride.
I know posting the gory details serves as a venting mechanism, but it also leaves you open to incessant needling from the peanut gallery. Regardless, it's threads like these that foster the camaraderie of this forum.
So, thanks for sharing. And if you decided to buckle up and give it another shot before you head back east, you'd have at least one supporter. Can't help but feel like the shoe that's gonna turn everything around is just waiting for you...
That means a lot
I am glad that my trip reports can become the catalyst for lively discussion and make it to the 40page mark. I respect people's opinions here but, I think everyone here, AP professionals included, should be arable to step back from the math and attempt to sympathize with a fellow member of the forum. yes...I vented quite a bit and put my emotional state out there. I know there is tough love but sometimes, your fellow forum members just need an ear and a "go get'em next time" pep talk
PRETTY PLEASE
Quote: aceofspadesThat means a lot
I am glad that my trip reports can become the catalyst for lively discussion and make it to the 40page mark. I respect people's opinions here but, I think everyone here, AP professionals included, should be arable to step back from the math and attempt to sympathize with a fellow member of the forum. yes...I vented quite a bit and put my emotional state out there. I know there is tough love but sometimes, your fellow forum members just need an ear and a "go get'em next time" pep talk
Hey Ace, I read the whole thread. I enjoyed it. Hope you appreciate hi-low in the future, but wish you gook luck either way!
Me 2 or you would be 2x the _____ you are now (:Quote: AxiomOfChoiceYeah I have heard that too :)
I am glad I did not become a lawyer.
Quote: AxelWolfMe 2 or you would be 2x the _____ you are now (:
Not possible
I told them that if I wanted to use a credit card for a cash advance the permission would be granted posthaste but since I merely want to access my own money, the procedure is harder than seeking security clearance at the pentagon lol
I then told them I'm glad I don't have kids and one of them was kidnapped and I needed immediate access to cash for the ransom. They said "Sir, we ask that you not make statements about criminal activity". Lol
Quote: aceofspadesThey said "Sir, we ask that you not make statements about criminal activity". Lol
Everybody is so PC these days.
You can't even say bomb on an aircraft anymore.....what has this world come to :) :) :)
Get get em ace!!!!
