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YoDiceRoll11
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March 14th, 2012 at 6:45:00 PM permalink
Quote: mrjjj

different series of numbers to make sure they have NEVER hit in the past and plays MANY series per week, always sticking with the SAME set of numbers. He NEVER misses a day of playing, very *CONSISTENT*.


Without getting off topic. Mathematically, why would it matter if a series of numbers never hit in the past or not?? I can see why playing a larger amount of varied numbers could help, but without trying to sound too redundant here, past numbers don't influence future numbers, even in the lottery.

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if people do WELL, they get insulted and their world gets rocked.


Absolutely not true. I don't think this guy is stupid or an idiot or anything. I find the story extremely interesting. I would question his quotation that picking one series of numbers over another series is MORE likely to hit. Please don't make this thread into some weird defensive insult rant. I'm not insulting this guy, I'm just questioning why one series is more favorable over another. But we've had this conversation before........
YoDiceRoll11
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March 14th, 2012 at 6:46:18 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

It's absolutely true that smartly picking your own numbers increases your EV in a lottery game. You're no more likely to win, but you're likely to win more than you would playing quick picks. Random quick picks can easily match the selected numbers of fools (1-2-3-4-5, the numbers from Lost, etc) and easily result in shared jackpots.


So by doing quick picks you increase your chance of picking the same numbers as everyone else?

Isn't this true if you pick your own numbers. Couldn't someone else be picking the same numbers?

If someone could explain this with math, I would be very grateful.
mrjjj
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March 14th, 2012 at 6:46:40 PM permalink
A quote from his daughter >>

“My husband and I used Richard Lustig’s lotto method and within months of starting the method we hit a Mega Money jackpot for 2 million dollars! It was really easy to follow. You only play what you can and you can still win! Shaun and I will only play lotto from now on using these strategies.”
YoDiceRoll11
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March 14th, 2012 at 6:48:41 PM permalink
Very interesting quote Ken. Thanks for sharing it. So the method is to just play 10 games in a row, and not use quick picks?
mrjjj
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March 14th, 2012 at 6:54:17 PM permalink
Quote: YoDiceRoll11

Without getting off topic. Mathematically, why would it matter if a series of numbers never hit in the past or not?? I can see why playing a larger amount of varied numbers could help, but without trying to sound too redundant here, past numbers don't influence future numbers, even in the lottery.


Absolutely not true. I don't think this guy is stupid or an idiot or anything. I find the story extremely interesting. I would question his quotation that picking one series of numbers over another series is MORE likely to hit. Please don't make this thread into some weird defensive insult rant. I'm not insulting this guy, I'm just questioning why one series is more favorable over another. But we've had this conversation before........



For starters, I was referring to ANY person that does well, not just him.

There is some kind of stat (dont quote me, I cant find it at this time)......there has NEVER been a repeating set of winning numbers in any large lotto game, I believe thats only PART of his decision making. As far as the definition of a lotto? I dont know, I think he is referring to the larger ones, not some goofy pick 3.

Right, wrong, I dont really care, I'm killing some time posting. Have a good night agreeing with each other, I'm off to the casino (again), later peeps.

Ken
YoDiceRoll11
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March 14th, 2012 at 7:02:49 PM permalink
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There is some kind of stat (dont quote me, I cant find it at this time)......there has NEVER been a repeating set of winning numbers in any large lotto game, I believe thats only PART of his decision making. As far as the definition of a lotto? I dont know, I think he is referring to the larger ones, not some goofy pick 3.


Interesting. But even if the numbers have never repeated, isn't it still possible that they will?

Good luck at the casino tonight!
rdw4potus
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March 14th, 2012 at 7:11:20 PM permalink
Quote: mrjjj


There is some kind of stat (dont quote me, I cant find it at this time)......there has NEVER been a repeating set of winning numbers in any large lotto game



I've heard this too. Might be true. But it's also by far the most likely outcome. Powerball is a 25 year old game that draws 2 times per week. 25*52*2=2600 drawings in the history of Powerball. The odds of winning the powerball are 1:175,000,000. It would be an incredible long shot to have two out of 2,600 Powerball drawings have the same winning numbers.
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March 14th, 2012 at 7:44:14 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

It's absolutely true that smartly picking your own numbers increases your EV in a lottery game. You're no more likely to win, but you're likely to win more than you would playing quick picks. Random quick picks can easily match the selected numbers of fools (1-2-3-4-5, the numbers from Lost, etc) and easily result in shared jackpots.

I'd wager that the ideal lottery numbers are an arbitrarily selected set of numbers over 31, and you'd need to select your own numbers to guarantee the issuance of those numbers.



I would argue that my odds of matching the lost numbers, or "fools" number isn't something that happens "easily"..

In fact, I would say the odds are probably close to..I dunno, winning the lottery...

I would say that this guy 1. Got lucky then proceded to invest his earnings into different lottery methods. He now supplements his "winning methods" in the form of interviews and book sales...
awakefield1983
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March 14th, 2012 at 7:46:59 PM permalink
Can't believe people are giving legitimacy to these theories...

1) Having random number's picked or picking your own doesn't really keep you from picking duplicate numbers, your pattern could just as easily be matched as the quick pick.

2) Past results have absolutely no bearing on future results. Just as in Roulette, 10 blacks in a row doesn't increase the chances of red hitting.

3) The only viable method to adhere to is not to buy scratch off tickets where the major jackpots have already been hit. For instance, if a particular type of $5 ticket has a single $1 million jackpot, and that ticket has been purchased and redeemed (as noted on the big sign at your gas station, or websites, or word of mouth etc) don't buy that particular ticket as EV plummets way down. Similar to playing the $1 side bet at Caribbean Stud after the progressive has been hit and reset.

4) Someone already mentioned this, but buying 10 of the same type of tickets doesn't gauranty a win, and if one or two tickets hit, they will very easily result in a push.

Play for fun if you want, and only if you can afford it, but there are no advantage lottery players.

The state lotteries are truly a tax on the poor. Poor people play, poor people win, and then the poor winners are rich for a few months until they pump it all right back into the economy and become poor yet again. Hence, a tax on the poor. Forgive me for the stereotype.
AcesAndEights
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March 14th, 2012 at 8:01:38 PM permalink
Quote: awakefield1983

Play for fun if you want, and only if you can afford it, but there are no advantage lottery players.


In general I agree, but on this specific point I have to mention that certain state lotteries in the past have been known to go +EV with their jackpots, where the price of buying every number combination possible was less than the top jackpot prize. This was a couple years ago and hopefully they have some mathemeticians on board now...but there were people hiring other people to go to gas stations and buy huge blocks of tickets...

But like I said in general I agree with you and it's a fool's errand, above is just an edge case.
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