Joeman
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June 7th, 2022 at 8:36:04 AM permalink
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My thought is always how much time do I need to invest to collect the Freeplay? If the casino is a 90 mile drive away, and then you have to park and run in and play the Freeplay through once, how much Freeplay do I need to justify the trip? In this case I would factor in a total drive time of three hours plus approximately 30 minutes to run in and play my Freeplay through so a total of 3.5 hours invested. Obviously not worth it for $20, but does it become viable at $100, $200, $400?

This was the dilemma my wife and I went through for years because we would get weekly Freeplay from this particular casino and would have to decide if it was worth either of our time to go collect it.
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Right.

So if you had ten cards EACH with $100 freeplay....
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And a good lawyer... ;)
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darkoz
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June 7th, 2022 at 9:28:46 AM permalink
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My thought is always how much time do I need to invest to collect the Freeplay? If the casino is a 90 mile drive away, and then you have to park and run in and play the Freeplay through once, how much Freeplay do I need to justify the trip? In this case I would factor in a total drive time of three hours plus approximately 30 minutes to run in and play my Freeplay through so a total of 3.5 hours invested. Obviously not worth it for $20, but does it become viable at $100, $200, $400?

This was the dilemma my wife and I went through for years because we would get weekly Freeplay from this particular casino and would have to decide if it was worth either of our time to go collect it.
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Right.

So if you had ten cards EACH with $100 freeplay....
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And a good lawyer... ;)
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And trespassing!
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Seedvalue
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June 10th, 2022 at 3:21:02 AM permalink
The reason free play canít last forever in todayís climate is simple. We have gangs masquerading as advantage players running cards, and acting like they own casinos and plays. They tend to think they can do what they want because perhaps they have a low level rewards desk jockey who shields them from scrutiny. Once they start corrupting employees of the casino they are now committing felons. Thats the problemÖ these type of guys donít care.

The solution if your are unfortunate enough to find yourself in one of these shops is easy although expensive. You run as many cards as possible until the entire casino marketing budget collapses. I find somewhere between 40 and 60 max offers in one month can normally bring everything to a halt. This ends the gangs fantasy hold they think they have over the casino. It also will end whatever future profits you could have earned at this casino. Itís a mutual destruction solution however itís game theory optimal. Be prepared to lose big on this but if youíre smart about it you will lose way less then the your opponents.

Itís the endgame play only used in the most extreme unreasonable spots. If you been at this long enough you will know when to execute this move.

RIP
darkoz
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June 10th, 2022 at 6:34:58 AM permalink
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The reason free play canít last forever in todayís climate is simple. We have gangs masquerading as advantage players running cards, and acting like they own casinos and plays. They tend to think they can do what they want because perhaps they have a low level rewards desk jockey who shields them from scrutiny. Once they start corrupting employees of the casino they are now committing felons. Thats the problemÖ these type of guys donít care.

The solution if your are unfortunate enough to find yourself in one of these shops is easy although expensive. You run as many cards as possible until the entire casino marketing budget collapses. I find somewhere between 40 and 60 max offers in one month can normally bring everything to a halt. This ends the gangs fantasy hold they think they have over the casino. It also will end whatever future profits you could have earned at this casino. Itís a mutual destruction solution however itís game theory optimal. Be prepared to lose big on this but if youíre smart about it you will lose way less then the your opponents.

Itís the endgame play only used in the most extreme unreasonable spots. If you been at this long enough you will know when to execute this move.

RIP
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Interesting.

I will call that "Flat-lining" a play.

It's not what I would do. As you say, it's an expensive revenge move. Digging two graves, etc.

Me, personally, would move on to another market and wait a year for the dust to settle before seeing what the new state of offers are and how to counteract any roadblocks.

Often coming back later you find things may have eased up. When regular customers get affected, the marketing department sometimes relents.

I also find sometimes I don't want to return. I wind up discovering a better play and going back to one that's not as profitable makes no sense
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AlanMendelson
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June 10th, 2022 at 7:32:06 AM permalink
Had $10 at Suncoast cashed out $11.25 on 25 cent 8/5 Bonus.
ChumpChange
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June 10th, 2022 at 7:38:57 AM permalink
How much free play would I get for playing $25 Black Jack for 4 hours these days? $10? That hardly covers dealer's tips.
I haven't gotten a mailer in a couple months so I have to gamble without the benefit of knowing when the big drawings and lucky seats are.
Maybe I should log-in online and check my points totals and offers might be mentioned there.
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June 10th, 2022 at 1:35:21 PM permalink
Yours is a more reasonable approach. Sometimes I wish I was more responsible. I try I really do
AlanMendelson
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June 20th, 2022 at 3:50:17 AM permalink
This morning I had $10 free play at Suncoast and cashed out $13.75

Had a really good day on Saturday. My $10 of free play at Red Rock quickly doubled to $20 and I kept playing hitting multiple full houses and then quad 7s. Left with $80.

Played 25 cent Bonus. 8/5
Seedvalue
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June 20th, 2022 at 5:18:42 AM permalink
Sunday I had

$2040 of free play on three cards for a total of $6120 at one of the Empire properties. Walked out with 5390 after playing some Video blackjack and putting in the required play needed so someone can come back next week and do the same

4 cards with $500 each at one of the guitar loving properties in and out 20 min for a nice profit of $1910

Went over to a big M property for another 6 cards x $750. Best part about this place is I can convert the free play with one bet. Easy to create the offer here even with much competition. All profit
+ $4500

Easy day took about 4 hours. Spent the rest of the day following around someone who has decided to try and act like heís King of a certain play / casino. Since Iím only in town to help my guys figure out a way to deal with this person my day was mostly doing this. Normally I donít personally pickup here but this is an extreme situation that needs my attention. Hopefully a reasonable solution can be negotiated.

Free play last forever when you play the same amount each time
You go in that created the offer in the first place.
AlanMendelson
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June 20th, 2022 at 11:32:58 AM permalink
Station Casinos has now downgraded my free slot play to $5 for five sessions in July. That's a total of $25 for the month.

Apparently there's no longer a $10 minimum of ten sessions for table game players.

Still getting my usual gift and other table game promos including meal comps but only playing free slot play has killed the free slot play.

Now I'm waiting to see what Boyd offers for July. I havent played craps at Suncoast in more than three months... probably five months.

Suncoast upped my free slot play from $5 to $10 for 11 sessions in June.

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