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And his true colors show.

He lasted longer than I expected.

I didn't know the forum drove a Miata. Is there a rainbow color scheme option?

Quote: jh111

I'm done with this gay ass forum.

loud f*****g b******t barking dogs keep you from sleeping?

Quote: AxelWolf

And his true colors show.

He lasted longer than I expected.

I didn't know the forum drove a Miata. Is there a rainbow color scheme option?

I figured he'd go pretty quick when he didn't get any sales. Lasted very long.

Maybe it just me, but anyone else think he was a sock of Kendry?

Quote: SM777

I figured he'd go pretty quick when he didn't get any sales. Lasted very long.

I never thought he was trying to sell any system or anything sports related.

His videos are filled with all kinds of profanity, some people talk like that, guess it makes him 'feel' great to talk that way.

All I need is to watch a white guy try to jam his profanity down my throat and ears. total b888***t
and NO warning that is what he is trying to sell (his profanity)

Quote: jh111

Series 18 + 19 - A Bets

- New York Mets Alt RL +1.5 @ -275 on 5/18, 1610 EST (risking 69 to win 25)

- LA Angels ML @ -174 on 5/18, 2210 EST (risking 44 to win 25)

Good Vibes!


Important Note: If the NY line rises to -151 or above at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the Money Line - NY Mets ML. If the LA line drops to -150 or below at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the Alt RL - LA +1.5.

Too bad whichever monitor suspended him, they picked the absolute wrong time to do it if you wanted to watch him implode. The Mets lost the Series 18A bet at a heavy juice.. they lost the following nite at heavy juice too which wld have been his series B bet at a high amount n heavy juice. Bet C wld have been very interesting. ..

Quote: 7craps

I never thought he was trying to sell any system or anything sports related.

His videos are filled with all kinds of profanity, some people talk like that, guess it makes him 'feel' great to talk that way.

All I need is to watch a white guy try to jam his profanity down my throat and ears. total b888***t
and NO warning that is what he is trying to sell (his profanity)

There is absolutely an ulterior motive - selling picks. Whether it starts here, or gets you to his YouTube, then to email, there's a route.

Quote: SM777

There is absolutely an ulterior motive - selling picks. Whether it starts here, or gets you to his YouTube, then to email, there's a route.

If you want to 'follow' the guy, he posts his marvellous picks on youtube and a gazillion other web sites. I had him pegged as building a web following for the purpose of later selling his picks.
Anyhow, it was me that suspended him and by agreement with other mods, he's not welcome back.

Quote: OnceDear

If you want to 'follow' the guy, he posts his marvellous picks on youtube and a gazillion other web sites. I had him pegged as building a web following for the purpose of later selling his picks.
Anyhow, it was me that suspended him and by agreement with other mods, he's not welcome back.

I know you have to provide the rope and let them hang themselves, but it was obvious this guy had a goal of selling pics. They always do when they come just to “help” others with their system.

Good riddance.

Of course some say that about me as well 😀

Quote: OnceDear

If you want to 'follow' the guy, he posts his marvellous picks on youtube

marvellous is your opinion and an interesting choice of a word

Quote: OnceDear

and a gazillion other web sites.

gazillion. LOL

He needs to learn (maybe the hard way) he will turn off many potential clients with his 'losing excuses act'
why the Mets lost yesterday.
"The offence did not show up"
problem with that mentality is they did show up and got shut down BIG time.
it happens.
oh, yes
s**t happens

Quote: WatchMeWin

Too bad whichever monitor suspended him, they picked the absolute wrong time to do it if you wanted to watch him implode. The Mets lost the Series 18A bet at a heavy juice.. they lost the following nite at heavy juice too which wld have been his series B bet at a high amount n heavy juice. Bet C wld have been very interesting. ..

You are off a game. Yesterday was series A. Assume series B happening right now. 0-0 Mets/Marlins.

Quote: OnceDear

If you want to 'follow' the guy, he posts his marvellous picks on youtube and a gazillion other web sites. I had him pegged as building a web following for the purpose of later selling his picks.
Anyhow, it was me that suspended him and by agreement with other mods, he's not welcome back.

Just for that, you are no longer the worst mod of all time. You have been upgraded to the 3rd WMOAT. (-;

Quote: OnceDear

If you want to 'follow' the guy, he posts his marvellous picks on youtube and a gazillion other web sites. I had him pegged as building a web following for the purpose of later selling his picks.
Anyhow, it was me that suspended him and by agreement with other mods, he's not welcome back.

You are 100% correct.

Quote: 7craps

marvellous is your opinion and an interesting choice of a wordgazillion. LOL

He needs to learn (maybe the hard way) he will turn off many potential clients with his 'losing excuses act'
why the Mets lost yesterday.
"The offence did not show up"
problem with that mentality is they did show up and got shut down BIG time.
it happens.
oh, yes
s**t happens

In his defense, he could have used the injury excuse.

Or does that only work as a defense of Season O/U win total bets?

Quote: unJon

You are off a game. Yesterday was series A. Assume series B happening right now. 0-0 Mets/Marlins.

3-0 Marlins.
Home dogs rule!

Now we have the C bet coming up on Tuesday. (in the video. Miami @ Det)

2.75 units + about 7 units = about 10 units lost on A & B bets.
BIG bet coming up!

no excuses now, except why bet on the Mets away??
answer: to lose. Mets now at 5 in a row losing games away

Quote: Boz

Quote: 7craps

marvellous is your opinion and an interesting choice of a wordgazillion. LOL

He needs to learn (maybe the hard way) he will turn off many potential clients with his 'losing excuses act'
why the Mets lost yesterday.
"The offence did not show up"
problem with that mentality is they did show up and got shut down BIG time.
it happens.
oh, yes
s**t happens

In his defense, he could have used the injury excuse.

Or does that only work as a defense of Season O/U win total bets?

I can feel LOCK OF THE CENTURY 3* coming.



* current lock of the century record: 1-1

Quote: 7craps

3-0 Marlins.
Home dogs rule!

Now we have the C bet coming up on Tuesday. (in the video. Miami @ Det)

2.75 units + about 7 units = about 10 units lost on A & B bets.
BIG bet coming up!

no excuses now, except why bet on the Mets away??
answer: to lose. Mets now at 5 in a row losing games away

Latest video he is already in panic mode....

"When Tuesday comes if I don't have a good energy or good feeling about the game I might not bet it and just cut my losses"

Quote: RisingDough

Latest video he is already in panic mode....

"When Tuesday comes if I don't have a good energy or good feeling about the game I might not bet it and just cut my losses"

Hahahahahaha

Quote: RisingDough

Latest video he is already in panic mode....

"When Tuesday comes if I don't have a good energy or good feeling about the game I might not bet it and just cut my losses"

he told us C bets don’t lose. Something like 940-2 over the past 100 years.

Quote: RisingDough

Latest video he is already in panic mode....

"When Tuesday comes if I don't have a good energy or good feeling about the game I might not bet it and just cut my losses"

that last video shows he is definitely not a pro sports bettor with a math degree. just comes up with more excuses and 'oh well' C bet time. Has something against the Marlins, imo.

trying to bet against a win streak and chase losses (home or away) is suicide.
many been there, done that already.

He still has never shown his back testing methods and data. (Guess his 'smell' is better than everyone else's)

Quote: jh111

It's a chase system dude. You gotta have proper money management or you could go bust real quick.

I still can't believe that they suspended him just as he was imploding! I would have paid to hear Axels ridicule.

The dude is backtracking and crying like a baby on the C bet that would be tonight on Detroit. . However, he backed out like a fu%= pus €%=.... when he brags so hard about C belts being virtually unbeatable.

Should never take heavy favorites in a Chase system.

Quote: WatchMeWin

Should never take heavy favorites in a Chase system.

His video this morning - what a joke!

Yankees tonight ML for C bet

this whole thread was fun(ny) while it lasted.

ny could be the Mets. They won last night!

Quote: 7craps

His video this morning - what a joke!

Yankees tonight ML for C bet

this whole thread was fun(ny) while it lasted.

ny could be the Mets. They won last night!

As a coutesy to those who liked this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w15u7pt1T2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V04hd4CKp44

Quote: WatchMeWin

I still can't believe that they suspended him just as he was imploding! I would have paid to hear Axels ridicule.

The dude is backtracking and crying like a baby on the C bet that would be tonight on Detroit. . However, he backed out like a fu%= pus €%=.... when he brags so hard about C belts being virtually unbeatable.

Should never take heavy favorites in a Chase system.

He pulled the plug himself - wanted to be suspended - rather than answer for the weaknesses in his system. He succeeded.

Quote: beachbumbabs

wanted to be suspended - rather than answer for the weaknesses in his system. He succeeded.

EXACTLY !!!!

Isn't there always a few people crying on this forum about "letting" people post their pick's? I know I have been shamed a few times for "harassing" these guys.

Quote: WatchMeWin

The dude is backtracking and crying like a baby on the C bet that would be tonight on Detroit. . However, he backed out like a fu%= pus €%=.... when he brags so hard about C belts being virtually unbeatable.

Detroit lost 5-4 so the +1.5 runs (-200)
helped out big time as did the error in the 9th when Miami was winning 4-2 and the game would have ended with a Detroit loss and a Loss on the C bet.

but, C bet wins!

Oh, he (John Hedgepeth YouTube channel) chickened out on making it.
typical pencil pusher

now we have to wait to see what bet will actually be his C bet.
LOL
Yankees and Mets both won

This guy really has no idea what a fraud he sounds like on these videos.

In addition to that , his system is total nonsense. Gets to the C bet, gets scared , and says he recommends not playing it

Then when it wins he makes a video congratulating everyone on winning it LOL

"I love, ya know.... the winning factor, you win you clean it up it's all done.....but it's the losing factor in this equation is what I can't get past."


So doubling up on huge money line favorites is good when you win but bad when you lose......got it.

Not worth a new thread, but here is an update on another joker.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/may/24/vegas-dave-i-would-have-to-be-complete-moron-bet/

Quote: Boz

Not worth a new thread, but here is an update on another joker.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/may/24/vegas-dave-i-would-have-to-be-complete-moron-bet/

How can there be soo many foolish people in this world, and how do they make it through life?

A good example of how negligent journalists typically are.

Maybe spend ten effing minutes researching the guy before giving him a bunch of free advertising and letting him lie to readers.

Quote: RisingDough

So doubling up on huge money line favorites is good when you win but bad when you lose......got it.

actually more than doubling up. John (he wants to be called) did not make (and suggested) NOT to go for that 1st C bet of the season (would have won)
he chickened out, plain and simple.

His "new and improved method" was to go for $50 each 'series' a double up from the $25 in an attempt to get back lost units from the B bet and no C bet. LOL

He losses the A bet, (Arizona) then CHICKENS OUT AGAIN on the proper wager (almost $400) to win the B bet and $50.
still won $25 (Arizona won, only 18-2)

total comedy (more exciting than watching Jeopardy these days)
next up

But the family pictures on the wall of his apartment do add a nice touch.

Quote: Boz

But the family pictures on the wall of his apartment do add a nice touch.

we will see if they are still there after today. 1 day after the 'longest day' of the year
Another C bet (last week C bet did win)
this week (kept betting on the Phillies to win) and they lost 5-3 to Miami today
"Marlins still one of the worst teams in the major leagues" said John... but playing above .500 ball since May 17th (18-15 = .545)

so the C bet lost and crippled the bankroll and other things...

at least a happy ending to the story
(most knew this would happen, losing a C bet early in the season)

Quote: 7craps

we will see if they are still there after today. 1 day after the 'longest day' of the year
Another C bet (last week C bet did win)
this week (kept betting on the Phillies to win) and they lost 5-3 to Miami today
"Marlins still one of the worst teams in the major leagues" said John... but playing above .500 ball since May 17th (18-15 = .545)

so the C bet lost and crippled the bankroll and other things...

at least a happy ending to the story
(most knew this would happen, losing a C bet early in the season)

Where are you getting this information? Don't bother posting it, I wont look. I was just curious. The updates are nice. Keep this thread as a reminder the next time someone comes along with their "winning" system and when some of the WOV locals get all upset they are being run off due to hostility. Add it to the rest of them. I think it would be a great idea to have them all listed in one thread.

Quote: AxelWolf

Where are you getting this information? Don't bother posting it, I wont look. I was just curious. The updates are nice. Keep this thread as a reminder the next time someone comes along with their "winning" system and when some of the WOV locals get all upset they are being run off due to hostility. Add it to the rest of them. I think it would be a great idea to have them all listed in one thread.

He has a YouTube channel where he posts his plays on videos

Today was the end for this guy. A crushing C bet loss on the marlins that wiped out the entire bankroll of his followers.

Basically there was no system or expertise. It was simply laying heavy juice on huge favorites and martingaling it and praying he never loses 3 in a row.

Quote: AxelWolf

Keep this thread as a reminder the next time someone comes along with their "winning" system and when some of the WOV locals get all upset they are being run off due to hostility.

you are making noises like this to justify your own negativity which is not always justified

you and Mustang Sally badgered WmW when he was in the middle of a winning streak with his teasers - he wasn't a chaser

he fired back and got suspended

neither I nor anybody else at the time was saying that he was a long term winner

we just wanted to see his picks to see if he would continue to win - just because it was fun

you and Mustang Sally deprived everybody of that because his bragging got on your nerves

don't pretend you're doing everybody a great favor with your comments on sports betting which 𝐈'𝐦 𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐞 you don't know much about

the reality is you're a pretty nice guy who is very knowledgeable about machine play and provides some good info here

but sometimes you're arrogant and haughty and you would do yourself a favor by thinking twice before posting

Quote: lilredrooster

neither I nor anybody else at the time was saying that he was a long term winner

He was iirc.

If someone has a tread where they admit they don't know what they are doing and are making -ev picks for fun, I doubt there would be much dispute

Quote: lilredrooster

you are making noises like this to justify your own negativity which is not always justified

I feel justified when my "negativity" berates BS systems. Aside from the math, that many people oftentimes point out, some negativity from multiple people might be the only way to get though to some gullible people, people who might want to follow someone that's on a winning streak. I won't apologize for being negative when it comes to that.

Quote: lilredrooster

you and Mustang Sally badgered WmW when he was in the middle of a winning streak with his teasers - he wasn't a chaser

he fired back and got suspended

neither I nor anybody else at the time was saying that he was a long term winner

we just wanted to see his picks to see if he would continue to win - just because it was fun

Is it fun for people who get all excited and jump on winning streaks and lose money because they think theres something to it?

He gets suspended because he wants to play, but he just can't play within the rules when things get rough, so he reverts to personal insults and crosses lines.

Quote: lilredrooster

you and Mustang Sally deprived everybody of that because his bragging got on your nerves

Bragging about stuff does not get on my nerves. Pretending/thinking you have some special ability when you don't should be called out. I don't care of he is winning or losing, I didn't pay any attention if his games were winning or losing.

Quote: lilredrooster

Don't pretend you're doing everybody a great favor with your comments on sports betting which 𝐈'𝐦 𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐞 you don't know much about

I certainly agree, People know much much more about sports than I do. Back when I was watching football regularly I bet a fair amount on it and I did fairly well over the course of 4 or 5 years, including winning a few football contests and I only participated in a few. I didn't delude myself into thinking I was some football guru.

I really didn't/don't really pay much attention to others sports and I barley get a chance to watch football nowadays. However, I seem to have a very good knack for knowing who knows what they are talking about and what they are doing(not only on sports but most all gambling). And that has lead me to making money overall throughout the years on sports. I'm a lifetime winner at sports and continue to be yearly, and yet I can't remember the last time I made an actual sports bet myself (Oh wait, I think I made one with Boz recently). How is that even possible you might ask? Because I have enough confidence in myself to know who to have confidence and trust in. I wont be buying a Lamborghini doing this any time soon but im happy.

I'm very confidant in my belief that WMW (and others) do not have an advantage in sports or craps. I have no doubt that some of his sports bets are +EV.

If it ever turns out im wrong about someone in any aspect (it's happend once or twice (-:) I will be the first to come out and apologize and hopefully find a way to make it up to them.

Quote: lilredrooster

the reality is you're a pretty nice guy who is very knowledgeable about machine play and provides some good info here

Contrary to what people might perceive about me online, when it comes down to it definitely a nice guy. I might joke and even be crass on occasion, but I'm never selfish or greedy. I'm very helpful when it's needed, or im called upon, or sometimes just given the opportunity.

Quote: lilredrooster

but sometimes you're arrogant and haughty and you would do yourself a favor by thinking twice before posting

Trust me, It's not arrogance(You must be confusing me with Romes(-;). I have rarely ever been accused of that. I don't think pointing out foolishness and BS makes one arrogant.

I never heard the word haughty used before other than haughty toity. I take it that's what you are getting at. I will accept that over arrogant, I'm not sure why, I guess it just sounds better (-;

Quote: lilredrooster

you are making noises like this to justify your own negativity which is not always justified

you and Mustang Sally badgered WmW when he was in the middle of a winning streak with his teasers - he wasn't a chaser

he fired back and got suspended

neither I nor anybody else at the time was saying that he was a long term winner

we just wanted to see his picks to see if he would continue to win - just because it was fun

you and Mustang Sally deprived everybody of that because his bragging got on your nerves

don't pretend you're doing everybody a great favor with your comments on sports betting which 𝐈'𝐦 𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐞 you don't know much about

the reality is you're a pretty nice guy who is very knowledgeable about machine play and provides some good info here

but sometimes you're arrogant and haughty and you would do yourself a favor by thinking twice before posting

This is a really dumb post.

"You chased the guy trying to scam people into his fake system and direct them to his YouTube"
"Shame on you"

Quote: lilredrooster

you are making noises like this to justify your own negativity which is not always justified

you and Mustang Sally badgered WmW when he was in the middle of a winning streak with his teasers - he wasn't a chaser

he fired back and got suspended

neither I nor anybody else at the time was saying that he was a long term winner

we just wanted to see his picks to see if he would continue to win - just because it was fun

you and Mustang Sally deprived everybody of that because his bragging got on your nerves

don't pretend you're doing everybody a great favor with your comments on sports betting which 𝐈'𝐦 𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐞 you don't know much about

the reality is you're a pretty nice guy who is very knowledgeable about machine play and provides some good info here

but sometimes you're arrogant and haughty and you would do yourself a favor by thinking twice before posting

What a horrible post.

And WMWs teaser “winning streak” was like 2 wins in a row. Every pick he’s posted since then has been awful.

After the C bet loss wiped out his bankroll , he’s now recommending that everyone reinvest another $1000 and start over , and just bet the B bets for 30% of your bankroll.

And get this , he says all that has to happen is the next 8 bets go 8-0 , and you’ll then be right where you need to be.

Quote: michael99000

What a horrible post.

And WMWs teaser “winning streak” was like 2 wins in a row. Every pick he’s posted since then has been awful.

And you wonder (or already understand) why casinos stay in business. Saps are always looking for the next winning system.

Shocking that we have members here who fell for it or considered it entertaining.

I don't need any lectures from you guys
this is what I did in 2017 - all the picks were time stamped and documented - thousands of views- that would have caught any errors
it wasn't a large no. of bets - I could only find about 1 good pick per day - it took a lot of work for me to find a good bet - so I quit - I got tired
but nobody here has ever done anything like this - not that I've seen
at the bottom you will see the link and the complete documentation

Here is the financial report:

ROI (return on investment):

29 bets of $1,100 were made equaling $31,900. 4 bets were made equaling $2,200.

Total amount wagered was $34,100.

Total profit was + $5,803.

17% of all the money wagered was returned as profit.


made one more bet and had to revise:


Yesterday: (December 22, 2017)

spread bet...................... 1-0....................+ $1,000



revised total.......... +$6,803

spread and over/under bets...........16-8-1

moneyline bets.......................................6-3


because of this last bet my ROI increased to 19.3%

so please, I don't believe you know anything I don't



https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/29749-nba-picks-2017/



and SM777 - you said this:


"You chased the guy trying to scam people into his fake system and direct them to his YouTube"
"Shame on you"




WTF are you talking about. if you're saying that's what I did your post is total garbage - 𝐈 𝐍𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐎𝐌𝐌𝐄𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐃 𝐀𝐍𝐘 𝐂𝐀𝐏𝐏𝐄𝐑 𝐓𝐎 𝐀𝐍𝐘𝐁𝐎𝐃𝐘 - 𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑

Lol!

No shame. But you either thought this stupid F had a system worth following or understood it was BS from Day 1. Obviously anyone who watched him hesitate the first time he had a C game knew they were right from the start.

Definitely a joker who shot for the moon and didn’t understand where he came.

System players deserve everything they get when they come here. As do those who try to defend them as entertaining.

Quote: lilredrooster

I don't need any lectures from you guys

Said the guy who just gave me a lecture (-;.

Lilredrooster, I too think you are a good guy. We all are not going all always agree on the same things or see eye to eye. We all have our little idiosyncrasies, pet peeves, passions, likes and dislikes. Many of them are trivial time wasters and some are not.. I see your point of view and I even think some of the stuff you said has merit. I dont know that I will change my ways but perhaps I will be a little more mindful in the future. In the meantime, why don't we all just move past this and move on?

I'm sure I notice at the time, but I don't even remember you posting up picks. Is that why you are a bit sensitive to all this?

I dont remember even making a comment. Obviously, I had no issues with it because I don't think you had any suspicious motivation. I have no reason to think you don't have an advantage, I would have to hear you logic and why you think you have one. Perhaps you dont even think you have an advantage and you just posted up and bet for fun. Perhaps you can elaborate?

Quote: Boz

Lol!

No shame. But you either thought this stupid F had a system worth following or understood it was BS from Day 1. Obviously anyone who watched him hesitate the first time he had a C game knew they were right from the start.

Definitely a joker who shot for the moon and didn’t understand where he came.

System players deserve everything they get when they come here. As do those who try to defend them as entertaining.

The finny thing is I just randomly made up how his system worked trying to be confusing as possable with some mumbo jumbo and not being able to lose. And he agreed that's how his system worked.

Quote: AxelWolf

Said the guy who just gave me a lecture (-;.

Lilredrooster, I too think you are a good guy. We all are not going all always agree on the same things or see eye to eye. We all have our little idiosyncrasies, pet peeves, passions, likes and dislikes. Many of them are trivial time wasters and some are not.. I see your point of view and I even think some of the stuff you said has merit. I dont know that I will change my ways but perhaps I will be a little more mindful in the future. In the meantime, why don't we all just move past this and move on?

I'm sure I notice at the time, but I don't even remember you posting up picks. Is that why you are a bit sensitive to all this?

I dont remember even making a comment. Obviously, I had no issues with it because I don't think you had any suspicious motivation. I have no reason to think you don't have an advantage, I would have to hear you logic and why you think you have one. Perhaps you dont even think you have an advantage and you just posted up and bet for fun. Perhaps you can elaborate?

Can I give 1/2 a Thumbs up? Axel many times is way too nice,.

That said, either stay on the sidelines or cross the road. Stand in the middle and every Fuc&&$g time you will get run over.

Boz: you had it right in your 1st post. I found it entertaining. because I expected them to lose and I wanted to watch it happen. I don't apologize for that. I find that when just about anybody posts picks it can be entertaining - especially if they give some reasons for their picks. I think others were finding it entertaining too. it's hard for me to believe that anybody here is so naive that they would believe these guys are sure winners and lose a lot of money on their picks. and if that was the case they surely would have lost lots somewhere elsewhere if not on their picks.

Axel: yes I believe if I apply myself I can get a small edge but not nearly as large as my picks in 2017 suggest
I'm older and I'm not hungry anymore to do that - it's a lot of work - I don't really want to explain it all
my best days gambling are when I was hungry - many years ago