Hard Rock Hotel & Casino / Ocean Resort Casino Atlantic City
It is worth taking this line from Hard Rock's tier match fine print: "The opposing property loyalty card must be in good condition with the name of the primary guest on the reservation. Expired cards will not be accepted with the exception of previous Taj Mahal card holders."
Some items of interest on the chart I noticed are: In order to earn Wild Card Elite status, one must earn $250 comp dollars from June 1 - May 31. To earn Rock Royalty status, one must earn $1,000 comp dollars in the same period. Wild Card Elite members are entitled to complimentary self parking and 2X entries on drawings which is a nice perk. Rock Royalty members have complimentary self and valet parking as well as 3X entries on drawings. Rock Royalty members also have VIP lounge and buffet access for $10 comp dollars per person (member plus one guest limit.) All tiers can also use their comp dollars at all retail outlets at 1:1. They will also have a bounce back free play program for slot players.
Seems like a very strong program. Looking forward to checking it out in more detail. If it is not out before opening, I will find out the coin in to comp dollar accrual ratios, etc once I am there.
Quote: Jmarch79In other news, while previously your Total Rewards Diamond, Golden Nugget Chairman, Tropicana Platinum and Borgata Gold was only worth the Platinum Tier at Ocean Resort Casino, now just stop by the Hard Rock first and upgrade the cards mentioned to Hard Rock's Rock Royalty. Hard Rock's Rock Royalty is worth Ocean's top tier, Black card.
It is worth taking this line from Hard Rock's tier match fine print: "The opposing property loyalty card must be in good condition with the name of the primary guest on the reservation. Expired cards will not be accepted with the exception of previous Taj Mahal card holders."
That's hot!
Quote: Jmarch79Yes, in the world of Total Rewards, the original offer was for one night for Diamond, two for Seven Stars. I am certain this would be in addition to anyone that booked the original room offer. It is very generous of them to offer three complimentary nights with no restrictions before they've dropped a dime in the joint. I think they're exposing themselves to being burned a little too much.
I just spoke with Hard Rock AC
The way it works is Diamond gets one free night up front then, when you physically go there and they give you the Rock Royalty card, you will be given your other free night -- thusly, you are only getting a total of two free nights
I, for one, will wait until I physically show up so I can get the Rock Royalty card and then book my two nights together
Quote: aceofspadesI just spoke with Hard Rock AC
The way it works is Diamond gets one free night up front then, when you physically go there and they give you the Rock Royalty card, you will be given you other free night -- thusly, you are only getting a total of two free nights
I, for one, will wait until I physically show up so I can get the Rock Royalty card and then book my two nights together
We're definitely getting conflicting information then. One weekend in August, I am already booked through a host for Friday though Monday. My girlfriend booked the Saturday night of the weekend so that her friends can stay in their own room using her CET Diamond (I did DIAD for her last year). We called with the same question you had, and were told to upgrade at the property and then she would get two additional nights.
Directly from the Hard Rock website (where the room promotion is): "Will you match my tier from another casino? Yes, we will have a tier match program when we open this summer. Signing up or redeeming this hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match."
The tier match is a separate and distinct offer, and it clearly says taking that hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match offer. Personally, it is in the Hard Rock's best interest to do exactly what they told you for a total of two complimentary nights. Perhaps they made that decision after getting a few callers asking the same question.
One thing is for sure, they're all in with this promo, no matter how you slice it or dice it, it's an aggressive plan to get players in the door. You could literally buy CET Diamond for around $400 via the Founders Card. Factor in the two buffets, $150 free play and two or three complimentary weekend nights and you are making money. Diamond in a Day with CET can also be done for a theoretical loss of less than $500. Factor in the Hard Rock benefits plus future CET offers based on the 50K coin in on VP in a day, and again, you're in the black. (Tip: do this on Sunday, June 24th. Every TR member is getting a free play return rewards mystery multiplier 3X-100X, pick the right game and you're positive off the top.)
Quote: Jmarch79We're definitely getting conflicting information then. One weekend in August, I am already booked through a host for Friday though Monday. My girlfriend booked the Saturday night of the weekend so that her friends can stay in their own room using her CET Diamond (I did DIAD for her last year). We called with the same question you had, and were told to upgrade at the property and then she would get two additional nights.
Directly from the Hard Rock website (where the room promotion is): "Will you match my tier from another casino? Yes, we will have a tier match program when we open this summer. Signing up or redeeming this hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match."
The tier match is a separate and distinct offer, and it clearly says taking that hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match offer. Personally, it is in the Hard Rock's best interest to do exactly what they told you for a total of two complimentary nights. Perhaps they made that decision after getting a few callers asking the same question.
One thing is for sure, they're all in with this promo, no matter how you slice it or dice it's aggressive plan to get players in the door. You could literally buy CET Diamond for around $400 via the Founders Card. Factor in the two buffets, $150 free play and two or three complimentary weekend nights and you are making money. Diamond in a Day with CET can also be done for a theoretical loss of less than $500. Factor in the Hard Rock benefits plus future CET offers based on the 50K coin in on VP in a day, and again, you're in the black. (Tip: do this on Sunday, June 24th. Every TR member is getting a free play return rewards mystery multiplier 3X-100X, pick the right game and you're positive off the top.)
I am already Diamond but good info
As for conflicting information - I'm sure the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing yet at HRAC -- so, I guess we will all see what happens when they actually open
Seriously though - thanks for this thread. It's going to be an interesting summer. Sadly, my work schedule doesn't have much mid-week freedom right now, so I'll have to fight crowds on the weekends.
Quote: YelruhDude. You're giving away the farm :)
Seriously though - thanks for this thread. It's going to be an interesting summer. Sadly, my work schedule doesn't have much mid-week freedom right now, so I'll have to fight crowds on the weekends.
I consider what I mentioned a super low value play, that anyone could have figured out if they thought about it. I'd never disclose any true AP plays.
Yeah, I am not looking forward to opening weekend crowds. It is going to be a crazy. Would love to hear your thoughts after your visit!
Quote: Jmarch79In other news, while previously your Total Rewards Diamond, Golden Nugget Chairman, Tropicana Platinum and Borgata Gold was only worth the Platinum Tier at Ocean Resort Casino, now just stop by the Hard Rock first and upgrade the cards mentioned to Hard Rock's Rock Royalty. Hard Rock's Rock Royalty is worth Ocean's top tier, Black card.
It is worth taking this line from Hard Rock's tier match fine print: "The opposing property loyalty card must be in good condition with the name of the primary guest on the reservation. Expired cards will not be accepted with the exception of previous Taj Mahal card holders."
Does anyone know if these are provisional tier matches -- meaning they expire in 3 months if you don't maintain that level? or, are they good for the whole year?
Quote: aceofspades
Does anyone know if these are provisional tier matches -- meaning they expire in 3 months if you don't maintain that level? or, are they good for the whole year?
That hasn't been explained by either property yet. A provisional tier match would be a good idea for both, but I think they're both going to roll it out for the full year.
Quote: Jmarch79That hasn't been explained by either property yet. A provisional tier match would be a good idea for both, but I think they're both going to roll it out for the full year.
From your lips to the gambling gods' ears
Because I'm sure there will be +EV opportunities ;)
Quote: YelruhI'm planning on being there opening day.
Because I'm sure there will be +EV opportunities ;)
I'll be there as well, staying at both properties. It will be a mad house, but I am really looking forward to it. We're going to Pitbull on Saturday night too, which should be fun.
As for the +EV opportunities, yep, I'm sure they'll be around. What is different here than most property openings is we won't see inexperienced dealers making mistakes. On the plus side to this, having a nice seasoned table games crew dealing clean and fast games.
Quote: Jmarch79I'll be there as well, staying at both properties. It will be a mad house, but I am really looking forward to it. We're going to Pitbull on Saturday night too, which should be fun.
As for the +EV opportunities, yep, I'm sure they'll be around. What is different here than most property openings is we won't see inexperienced dealers making mistakes. On the plus side to this, having a nice seasoned table games crew dealing clean and fast games.
I missed something, then. How will both casinos have
seasoned crews?
Quote: sodawater
Aside from that, does anyone know if Ocean plans to keep the Sky Garden intact from Revel with the pine trees and the firepits, accessible from the hotel hallway without going through the pool? That was one of my favorite places in AC.
Someone on Ocean Resort Casino's facebook page asked this question about the Sky Garden returning. The Ocean representative said it is indeed returning.
On a side note, they're marketing that they are a pet-friendly property (dogs only, under 50 pounds) and have taken two lower floors and dedicated them to pet friendly rooms. They've even come up with a fun name for the pet relief area, Central Bark. The fee to bring Fido down to Ocean for a getaway is $150 per stay.
Quote: beachbumbabsI missed something, then. How will both casinos have
seasoned crews?
With the closings of properties, layoffs, etc in the AC market both properties pretty much had their pick of experienced table games dealers. Hard Rock had a hiring event just for previous Taj Mahal table games staff, giving them first priority for available positions.
I guess I should clarify, I am not guaranteeing you will see expert dealers throughout both properties, but for sure this is not going to be PA where 90% of dealers were fresh out of school when they introduced table games there. In fact, I'd say it's the opposite, 90% or more are joining these two new properties from another property with experience. It's worth mentioning the CEO of Ocean Resort was once the VP of Table Games and then became the VP of Gaming Operations at the Taj and took a lot of his former colleagues with him.
Again, speculation, but I'd bet on this one.
Quote: GWAEhey what happened to cereal town. I don't see it mentioned anywhere on oceans site.
Their website is a joke at the moment. None of the restaurants are listed. However, don't lose any sleep, Cereal Town is still coming.
Quote: Jmarch79Their website is a joke at the moment. None of the restaurants are listed. However, don't lose any sleep, Cereal Town is still coming.
It better be, I can't wait to pay $7 for cinnamon toast crunch.
Quote: Jmarch79Someone on Ocean Resort Casino's facebook page asked this question about the Sky Garden returning. The Ocean representative said it is indeed returning.
On a side note, they're marketing that they are a pet-friendly property (dogs only, under 50 pounds) and have taken two lower floors and dedicated them to pet friendly rooms. They've even come up with a fun name for the pet relief area, Central Bark. The fee to bring Fido down to Ocean for a getaway is $150 per stay.
Good reporting, thanks,
I wonder if there is a scale for the dogs at the check-in counter to make sure they're under 50 lbs.
Quote: sodawaterQuote: Jmarch79Someone on Ocean Resort Casino's facebook page asked this question about the Sky Garden returning. The Ocean representative said it is indeed returning.
On a side note, they're marketing that they are a pet-friendly property (dogs only, under 50 pounds) and have taken two lower floors and dedicated them to pet friendly rooms. They've even come up with a fun name for the pet relief area, Central Bark. The fee to bring Fido down to Ocean for a getaway is $150 per stay.
Good reporting, thanks,
I wonder if there is a scale for the dogs at the check-in counter to make sure they're under 50 lbs.
Small dogs (20 lbs) were always allowed, now they have the 50 lb. limit - my dog (RIP) would have been over this limit by 115 lbs lol)
was a small horse and didn't know it.
Quote: rainmanAce dogs don't get to 165 lbs. What you had
was a small horse and didn't know it.
My baby:
CujoQuote: aceofspadesMy baby:
Quote: Jmarch79We're definitely getting conflicting information then. One weekend in August, I am already booked through a host for Friday though Monday. My girlfriend booked the Saturday night of the weekend so that her friends can stay in their own room using her CET Diamond (I did DIAD for her last year). We called with the same question you had, and were told to upgrade at the property and then she would get two additional nights.
Directly from the Hard Rock website (where the room promotion is): "Will you match my tier from another casino? Yes, we will have a tier match program when we open this summer. Signing up or redeeming this hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match."
The tier match is a separate and distinct offer, and it clearly says taking that hotel offer will not exclude you from the tier match offer. Personally, it is in the Hard Rock's best interest to do exactly what they told you for a total of two complimentary nights. Perhaps they made that decision after getting a few callers asking the same question.
One thing is for sure, they're all in with this promo, no matter how you slice it or dice it, it's an aggressive plan to get players in the door. You could literally buy CET Diamond for around $400 via the Founders Card. Factor in the two buffets, $150 free play and two or three complimentary weekend nights and you are making money. Diamond in a Day with CET can also be done for a theoretical loss of less than $500. Factor in the Hard Rock benefits plus future CET offers based on the 50K coin in on VP in a day, and again, you're in the black. (Tip: do this on Sunday, June 24th. Every TR member is getting a free play return rewards mystery multiplier 3X-100X, pick the right game and you're positive off the top.)
When I called today I was told this too. I have two nights booked via the original room offer. When they announced their tier match program, those are separate complimentary nights. Hence why TR Diamond was given 1 night via the room offer, but two via the tier match.
Quote: ac36When I called today I was told this too. I have two nights booked via the original room offer. When they announced their tier match program, those are separate complimentary nights. Hence why TR Diamond was given 1 night via the room offer, but two via the tier match.
Friend of mine just called HRAC (Diamond) and was told he would have to pay for his night up front and then when he matches his tier, he will be given his two free nights after the initial stay
WTF is going on over there at HRAC -- does any one person have the actual terms of the offer???
I just called and they told me the exact thing they told me the other day:
Diamond: 1 night free up front and 1 additional night once you actually tier match
Seven Stars: 2 nights free up front and no additional nights once you actually tier match
The total for Diamond and Seven Stars is 2 nights each (it's just that Seven Stars get to book those up front)
Quote: aceofspadesFriend of mine just called HRAC (Diamond) and was told he would have to pay for his night up front and then when he matches his tier, he will be given his two free nights after the initial stay
WTF is going on over there at HRAC -- does any one person have the actual terms of the offer???
I just called and they told me the exact thing they told me the other day:
Diamond: 1 night free up front and 1 additional night once you actually tier match
Seven Stars: 2 nights free up front and no additional nights once you actually tier match
The total for Diamond and Seven Stars is 2 nights each (it's just that Seven Stars get to book those up front)
Yeah, they need to figure out a story and stick to it. I got the same answer as ac36. I am sure we will get a real answer eventually.
Quote: aceofspades
Does anyone know if these are provisional tier matches -- meaning they expire in 3 months if you don't maintain that level? or, are they good for the whole year?
Confirmed from very reliable source that at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino the tier matched cards will be valid through May 31, 2019.
Quote: Jmarch79Confirmed from very reliable source that at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino the tier matched cards will be valid through May 31, 2019.
Alleluia and Amen!
Quote: Jmarch79Confirmed from very reliable source that at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino the tier matched cards will be valid through May 31, 2019.
Alleluia and Amen!
Quote: AOS's friendHeard from someone from Hard Rock. Great service from her. Same deal as you said..1 free night and maybe more when I get there. I’m all ready to go!
Quote: mcavanaugh8What do we think the BJ table mins will be at these two places?
Opening day? I'm betting there won't be a 3:2 table under $25. Probably higher to actually find a seat.
After? Probably $10-15 off peak, $15-25 peak for a H17 8 deck 3:2 table. That's my gut based on CET and Borgata.
Quote: aceofspadesOceans blackjack is all 3:2
I saw that. Good for them! Maybe they're going to go for 'the best gamble in town' play. If so, they should be applauded.
On the opposite end of this, Tropicana who had zero 6 to 5 tables (was only them and Borgata holding out with exclusively 3 to 2 payouts on natuals) has now changed all of their lower limit tables to crapjack. Only Pit 1 and the higher limit tables outside of Pit 1 are still 3 to 2 as of last weekend.
Quote: Jmarch79Maybe they're going to go for 'the best gamble in town' play.
I've always wondered why one of the AC joints doesn't try this...
Ocean could attract everyone with the nicest rooms in town (which they have), attract the kids and party crowd with the pools and clubs (which they have), and bring in more of the gamblers with slightly better game rules, VP paytables, higher slot returns, etc...
Quote: ECoasterI've always wondered why one of the AC joints doesn't try this...
Ocean could attract everyone with the nicest rooms in town (which they have), attract the kids and party crowd with the pools and clubs (which they have), and bring in more of the gamblers with slightly better game rules, VP paytables, higher slot returns, etc...
1000% agree. Heck, who knows, maybe they are going for this!
Tickets for Thursday and Saturday night begin at $25. Friday night tickets begin at $65. I'll be there Friday night if anyone wants to meet for a beer. (By the way, hosts are able to comp tickets to nightlife events at Daer.)
Ocean Resort Casino allowed media in for a tour of the property. The Press of Atlantic City posted 79 pictures on their website to accompany the article. You can find that here. I forgot just how impressive the property is. AOS, by the looks of the photos, the Ultra Lounge is back - bigger and better. They've got rid of the all the couches in front of the bar and put in more gaming tables. It almost looks a little too cramped, but I love they kept the wood floors. There was something about losing my ass off at a table and being able to see the sunrise over the ocean that took some of the sting away.
Quote: Jmarch79Hard Rock Hotel & Casino has announced the grand opening events for their nightlife venue, Daer Nightclub. Thursday night's party will be hosted by Michael B. Jordan. Friday night, world renowned DJ, Tiësto will appear. Saturday night, the fun is hosted by Ludacris with music by DJ Tur.
Tickets for Thursday and Saturday night begin at $25. Friday night tickets begin at $65. I'll be there Friday night if anyone wants to meet for a beer. (By the way, hosts are able to comp tickets to nightlife events at Daer.)
Ocean Resort Casino allowed media in for a tour of the property. The Press of Atlantic City posted 79 pictures on their website to accompany the article. You can find that here. I forgot just how impressive the property is. AOS, by the looks of the photos, the Ultra Lounge is back - bigger and better. They've got rid of the all the couches in front of the bar and put in more gaming tables. It almost looks a little too cramped, but I love they kept the wood floors. There was something about losing my ass off at a table and being able to see the sunrise over the ocean that took some of the sting away.
The couches were gone during the final month or so of Revel as well
71 cent burger
11am to 12 noon today only
Quote: Yelruh
Cutting it a little close, aren't they?
I'd say. Assuming they get the license, they will then have inspections that need to be done prior to opening. Cutting it way to close for comfort.
I 100% agree. I would bet everything that's a good bet for them. Now if I could only get a 100% rebate on that.Quote: ECoasterI've always wondered why one of the AC joints doesn't try this...
Ocean could attract everyone with the nicest rooms in town (which they have), attract the kids and party crowd with the pools and clubs (which they have), and bring in more of the gamblers with slightly better game rules, VP paytables, higher slot returns, etc...
Quote: terapinedAll Hard Rock Cafes
71 cent burger
11am to 12 noon today only
A .71 burger is a really good steal. :) Shame it was only for one hour. :(
Quote: AxelWolfThe cost of a HRC burger... 71 cents. The look on the servers face when I leave a 20% tip...PRICELESS.
Terrible. Haha.
Blackjack: 3 to 2 on naturals on all games. All games will also offer surrender.
Craps: 5X Odds.
