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June 1st, 2018 at 9:45:25 AM permalink
I thought of making this as a working thread for the two 'new' properties set to open in Atlantic City this month. Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City and Ocean Resort Casino Atlantic City are both set to open on Thursday, June 28th. I am sure with being less than a month from opening, we will start to receive more extensive details regarding the properties. Here is the information we have so far:

Hard Rock Hotel & Casino

- Granted New Jersey gaming license. Set to open on 6/28 at 12:00 Noon.
- Property will feature 1,972 guestrooms and suites. (Tip: As of 6/1 at 12 noon, all suite categories are the same rate. While this makes little business sense, they haven't caught it yet. The rank of suites go in the following order (lowest to highest), so if your in the market for a badass suite for an AC summer getaway, book the highest one that has availability: South Tower Fillmore Suite, South Tower Apollo Suite (Bay, Ocean) North Tower Celebrity Suite, South Tower Rehearsal Studio Suite and South Tower Roxy Suite.)
- There will be a nightly $15 resort fee in addition to applicable taxes. You will need a credit or debit card to pay upon checkin to cover room, tax, resort fees and a $150/night incidental deposit.
- 119,657 square feet of gaming space inclusive of 2,144 slots and 120 table games.
- The property will not feature a poker room (at least upon opening.)
- There are plans for a sports book, but they have not made any formal announcement. (There is also word they may have an issue getting a sports book due to the ownership having an affiliation with a professional sports team (NFL-Miami Dolphins). Borgata (WNBA-Vegas Aces), Golden Nugget (NBA-Houston Rockets) and the Caesars properties (NBA-Boston Celtics) are having the same issue.
- 20 Restaurants including a 553 seat buffet, 328 seat seafood restaurant, 172 seat asian bistro and 400 seat signature Hard Rock Cafe.
- Additional Amenities include: Rock Spa (Hard Rock's signature spa brand), Body Rock (a fully equipped fitness center), Indoor Pool with sundeck, Nightclub (no details yet), Beach Service, a Howie Mandel branded comedy club and two entertainment venues. Hard Rock Live at the Etess Arena will have a seating capacity of 7,000 while The Theater will allow for 1,500 seated and 2,100 standing.
-Tier Match / Complimentary Room Offer: Hard Rock is planning on a tier match for local competitors (AC and some PA casinos) but detailed information has yet to be released. They are offering a 25% discount on room rates to practically anyone. All you will need is a basic level players card from their listed competitors. They are also offering a tier based complimentary 1 or 2 night stay (valid one time, multiple reservations will be cancelled.) This is an awesome value. Full details can be found here (including what each competitor card will get you): Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Room Rate Tier Match

Ocean Resort Casino
- Has not yet applied for a New Jersey gaming license. Set to open on 6/28 at 3:00 PM.
- Property will feature 1,399 guestrooms and suites. Tip: Ocean Resort Casino will be affiliated with Hyatt Hotels & Resorts as a part of their Unbound Collection. You will be able to earn and redeem World of Hyatt rewards points at the property.
- There will be a nightly $20 resort fee in addition to applicable taxes. You will need a credit or debit card to pay upon checkin to cover room, tax, resort fees and a $100/stay incidental deposit.
- 138,000 square feet of gaming space inclusive of 2,200 slots and 100 table games.
- The property will also feature a poker room.
- There are plans for a 7,500 square foot sports book. The book will be operated by William Hill. (For those familiar with the former Revel property, it will be in the 'Social' space. Awesome central location.)
- 13 Restaurants including a American Cut (upscale steakhouse), Dolce Mare (Italian), Zhen Bang Noodles (Asian/Noodle Bar), Cereal Town ("cereals from around the world") and a Wahlburgers.
- Additional Amenities include: Exhale Spa by Hyatt, Fitness Center, 6 Pools (including one indoor pool and one salt water), an expansive sundeck with cabanas, Day & Nightclub (HQ2), Burlesque Nightclub (Ivan Kane's Royal Jelly) and Ovation Hall, a 5,500 seat entertainment and event center.
-Tier Match / Complimentary Room Offer: Ocean Resort has said they will offer a tier match upon opening. They have not released any information as of yet. They are offering casino rated and complimentary rooms based your play when Revel was open (the database was included in the sale.) To check if you are eligible for the above, call Ocean Resort reservations at (866) 50-OCEAN.

Again, I plan to update this thread as we learn more about both properties.
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:03:32 AM permalink
Can someone explain their reasoning for wanting to open on the same day?
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:17:41 AM permalink
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Can someone explain their reasoning for wanting to open on the same day?



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June 1st, 2018 at 10:19:09 AM permalink
Update already...

Ocean Resort Casino has posted the benefits by tier level for the players club on their website. They will have a four tier program. You can find the benefit chart here.

Some items of interest on the chart I noticed are: complimentary self and valet parking are only a benefit at the highest (black) tier level. This is exceptionally stingy as every other Atlantic City property offers this at the level just above base. It also appears that they will offer separate VIP lounges for the Platinum and Black tiers. Resort fees are also waived for the Black tier which is a nice little perk.

This may be a little 'nitpicky' however, it is just an unnecessary annoyance in my opinion. All tier levels received 2X comps every day. You need to opt in (presumably by kiosk) at the Blue and Gold levels. At Platinum and Black you do not need to do this. It just seems petty to make the lower two tiers go to a kiosk and swipe.

Hard Rock Hotel & Casino has not yet released the benefits by tier. What we do know so far is that they will have a three tier program. The tiers in escalating order are named as follows: Wild Card Premier, Wild Card Elite and Wild Card Rock Royalty. We could also assume based on the complimentary parking tier match page on their website, Wild Card Elite and above would receive complimentary self-parking. The link to that page is here.


More details to follow....
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:22:07 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Can someone explain their reasoning for wanting to open on the same day?



I would assume Ocean was hoping Hard Rock would bring in enough people to the city for the opening that they would check both out the same day. Can't say I dislike the strategy, but I would have opened the day before or after, this way each property gets it own day in the spotlight.
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:23:07 AM permalink
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:40:20 AM permalink
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I would assume Ocean was hoping Hard Rock would bring in enough people to the city for the opening that they would check both out the same day.
Can't say i dislike the strategy, but I would have opened the day before or after, this way each property gets it own day in the spotlight.


I think ocean is trying to take some of the spotlight out of hardrock's opening.

also, didn't know ocean hasn't received their license yet.
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:52:00 AM permalink
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Wow. This, by a hair, gets a warning rather than a suspension. A very, very thin hair.
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:55:00 AM permalink
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I think ocean is trying to take some of the spotlight out of hardrock's opening.

also, didn't know ocean hasn't received their license yet.
hm.. Straub part II?



Yeah, they're definitely trying to take some of the spotlight. I was only suggesting they open the day before or after as a courtesy to Hard Rock, but it seems they had other ideas.

Definitely no license yet. The Casino Control Commission has said they will expedite the approval process, but I would get moving if I was Ocean...way too close to the opening date to risk any delays in the licensing process.
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June 1st, 2018 at 10:57:29 AM permalink
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New Information Already...

I just checked both websites and it seems Ocean Resort Casino has put up the benefits for their players club. It doesn't mention what play will get you to each tier, but here is the benefits chart: Ocean Resort Premier Players Club Benefits.

I will be a four tier program (Ocean Premier Blue Tier, Gold Tier, Platinum Tier and Black Tier). Some standouts from the chart are: Gold Tier and above are eligible for bounceback freeplay. Also, Platinum and Black will have VIP lounge access and it seems they have separate lounges. Black tier members will have waived resort fees, which is a nice perk. The stingiest perk seems to be only Black tier members will have complimentary self and valet parking. That will be a problem in Atlantic City as most properties offer free parking at the level just above base.

Another 'nitpicky' thing I found is while all tier levels are eligible for 2X Comps Every Day, only Platinum and Black don't have to opt-in. It just seems like an annoyance to make the two lower tiers have to walk to a kiosk to opt into it.

Hard Rock Hotel & Casino has no information yet about the benefits of its players club. What we know so far is it will be a three tier program (Wild Card Premier, Wild Card Elite and Wild Card Rock Royalty). It can also be pretty confidently assumed Free Self Parking will be at the Wild Card Elite Level based on the "tier match complimentary parking" page on their website: Tier Match Complimentary Parking .

More details to follow...



IMHO on a minor point.

The two biggest draws currently in AC are CET and Borgata. CET uses Platinum as a lower tier; why undervalue yours using that same, well-known name? Same but less confusing reference to Borgata and Black, but maybe that changed when they went all MGM? mlife now? I haven't been lately, but I was Black 14 years ago with them.

Ocean.

Blue, Aqua, Teal, Royal. 4 nice words, all shades of blue distinct at a glance. Why not that?

Like I said. Minor issue.
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