Wizard
Posted by Wizard
Sep 04, 2011

LVMC Member of the Month

Check out who is the member of the month of the Las Vegas Mountaineers Club. You'll have to scroll about 80% of the way down.

Trivia Time: Where was the photo taken. As always, NO SEARCHING! I'll be very impressed if anyone gets it.

Comments

NicksGamingStuff
NicksGamingStuff Sep 05, 2011

I am just taking a shot in the dark and guessing Yosemite. I guess this for the following reasons: The shrubs and trees look like something I would find in Northern California, second you have your daughter with you and Yosemite is a popular family destination. Third putting a bicycle through a tree is something I would think only an artist in Northen CA would do.

odiousgambit
odiousgambit Sep 05, 2011

I admit I don't know. btw I assume I am correct the tree grew around the bike?



Question that pops to mind is, did hikers chuckle and say "in 20-30 years that will look cool" or is the place so remote and off the trail a bit that it 'just happened?'

HotBlonde
HotBlonde Sep 05, 2011

Congrats, Mike.

odiousgambit
odiousgambit Sep 05, 2011

I did find the tree/bike thing using google.



You have me looking up "rim to rim" hiking. The first thing I thought of his hearing about people getting into trouble. The boy scout incident [with fatality] is well known, see link below.



http://www.hcn.org/issues/86/2666

Wizard
Wizard Sep 05, 2011

Yes, the tree grew around the bike. I read the story a while ago, and don't remember it well, but it goes something like this: A boy was given a bike he didn't like and hid it in a tree. Perhaps he claimed he lost it to get a new one, I don't know. The tree is in a heavily forested area and not within plain view of anything, so it would have been pretty much undisturbed up in the tree. Decades go by and the the tree grows around the bike and it become somewhat of a little tourist attraction of its vicinity. The owner is now an adult but still lives close by his former bike.



Agreed, Nick, this is something a northern Cal artist would love, but that isn't the answer.

Ayecarumba
Ayecarumba Sep 06, 2011

My guesses are Santa Barbara, California, or somewhere in Alaska. Since you are wearing shorts, I will go with Santa Barbara.

Wizard
Wizard Sep 06, 2011

"My guesses are Santa Barbara, California, or somewhere in Alaska"



Nope. The foliage is too thick and green for Santa Barbara. Alaska is not a bad guess. However, in the summer shorts can be quite appropriate in Alaska. I think Fairbanks gets into the low 80s in the height of summer.

Ayecarumba
Ayecarumba Sep 07, 2011

Rats! I looked it up, and am kicking myself now for not taking more time to think about it, as I am pretty sure I could have gotten it down to the nearest major city. These are fun (Utah hand signs, Where is this?, Venetian bridge...). Maybe "photo quiz" could be a regular feature?

Wizard
Wizard Sep 07, 2011

The photo quiz is a good idea. I've also thought about taking pictures around Vegas and asking readers to guess where they were taken.



So, time to reveal the answer. This was taken at the bike tree on Vashon Island, Washington. It is a fairly large island close to Seattle. My father owns some property there, which brought me there in July, when this picture was taken.

JohnnyQ
JohnnyQ Sep 23, 2011

Ditto, I think it would be fun to have a weekly

photo quiz. The picture would need to be

something pretty cool, though.

Wizard
Posted by Wizard
Aug 31, 2011

Business and Friendship

I just had a huge argument with a friend of several years over a project I hired this person to help me with. This was the first time there was ever a business deal between the two of us. Suffice it say the deal with horribly bad, some very unkind allegations were made, and there is a dispute about what proper compensation should be. I will not be getting into specifics.

Suffice it to say that a good friendship was ruined over a comparatively small business deal. I'm pretty upset about it. I think the lesson to be learned here is to avoid doing business with friends, whenever you can, unless maybe if it is a very simple cut-and-dry deal. Also, don't get too close too people you are doing business with. I've seen that go bad too. Rarely have I seen true friendship and business mix well.

Comments

NicksGamingStuff
NicksGamingStuff Aug 31, 2011

I do agree with you that becoming friends with the people you do serious business with can go sour easily. I remember at my last job that upper management did not like I was so friendly with the people I was in charge of, yet I felt this relaxed management style yielded higher employee morale. Hopefully this experience won't sour you from giving me some other small projects. As you said a simple cut-and-dry deal is probably the best type of work to give friends. Some people have a hard time separating their friendship hat from their business hat. I always believe in respecting the people you work for. If you are friends with them and they criticize or object to your work you have to remember the person is wearing their business hat at the time, the friendship hat will come on later.

Wizard
Wizard Aug 31, 2011

Thanks for your comments, Nick. I too have a philosophy of being a nice easy-going boss. Perhaps some might say I can be a selfish a**hole part of the time, who knows. It is hard to see one's own faults. My wife always says people abuse me for my niceness, but that is just the way I am. In looking back, I have always worked harder for bosses that were nice to me, but maybe not everybody responds to sugar the same way I do.



You're good with me Nick. Paying for an article is pretty simple. I like to negotiate the price afterward, depending on the length and quality, but so far I think we've been happy with that arrangement.

FleaStiff
FleaStiff Aug 31, 2011

Did YOU treat it as you would a business deal? Written specifications of what was to be done and when, written provisions for early termination and dispute resolution? The title under that dotted line should read Businessman. It should not be Friend.



Comparatively small business deal... small in dollar amount perhaps but alertness to pitfalls is still required. A good friend can still be a bad businessman particularly if you've only known him as a friend, not a businessman.

Wizard
Wizard Aug 31, 2011

As usual with me, this was a mixture of an oral agreement and Emails. To my discredit, I did not probe deeply the issue of prices and what services/products were to be delivered. I knew this person's normal hourly rate, which was more than agreeable with me.



Usually people pay me for services and my philosophy is that if you're not happy with my work, then don't pay, I wouldn't want your money if you're legitimately not happy. However, that is not an official policy, because some clients will abuse it and pretend to be unhappy to avoid paying. There is often usually an Email chain to fall back on as well, should there be any disputes. It would be too time consuming to make a formal contract for every deal I do.



However, in this case I paid the other party for a service, and was unhappy with the result. So I'm not as used to being on this side of things. Again, lesson learned is that doing business with a friend is like playing Russian roulette. Avoid doing so if you can. Thinking about different hats is not of much help in this case.

buzzpaff
buzzpaff Aug 31, 2011

"In business, sir, one has no friends, only correspondents. "

Alexandre Dumas

Wizard
Wizard Aug 31, 2011

"In business, sir, one has no friends, only correspondents. " Alexandre Dumas



Indeed, Dumas is evidently smarter than this dumb ass. Speaking of which, trivia time: In which movie was Dumas referred to "dumb ass," by an illiterate trying to read the cover of one of his books.

ItsCalledSoccer
ItsCalledSoccer Aug 31, 2011

It always seems to work better in reverse - making friends in the course of doing business, rather than doing business with friends.



It's always a bad thing when a relationship ends poorly, whether or not it was a good thing that it ended. But IMHO, installing hard-and-fast rules about things like this never seems to work. I think it depends a lot more on grace than on rules.



While I, of course, don't know you or this friend, it would be my guess that there were "grace" problems before between you guys. Was someone always getting "irritated" over things like deciding where to have a drink or having to cancel at the last minute? Did you ever hear him assign motive to other people or to you? Things like that are not a big deal and can be overlooked when you're friends, but it's harder when it's business.



Still, if there's a "rule" to be written as a result of this experience, I would say it's "do business with friends who are graceful in personal matters" rather than "stop doing business with friends."



My $0.02.

Wizard
Wizard Aug 31, 2011

Agreed, better to make friends with those you do business with than the other way. There is a lot more that can go wrong with a business deal than having fun, so if you can get through the tough times, you can likely get through the good times.



I also tend to agree that establishing lots of rules probably won't help much. In my case I should have done more, but you can never completely mitigate arguments with contracts. There are lots of contingencies you'll never think of and words in the contract can be interpreted differently.



Yes, it came out that there were some hard feelings I didn't know about when work started. I didn't know until it all exploded. These hard feelings seem to have poisoned the water.



Until this happened I would have never questioned the grace of the other party. He/she was a friend and there was never a cross word in the several years we've known each other.

NicksGamingStuff
NicksGamingStuff Aug 31, 2011

The answer is The Shawshank Redemption, I knew without googling because I love that movie

midwestgb
midwestgb Aug 31, 2011

Stay true to yourself with this deal Wiz. And btw, I have received the same admonitions from my wife about my business approach - which pretty plainly is highly similar to yours ... ;-)

benbakdoff
benbakdoff Sep 01, 2011

Sometimes you just can't win. Avoid doing business with a friend and watch that blow up on you when the friend feels snubbed.

HotBlonde
HotBlonde Sep 01, 2011

Yeah doing business with friends can be a slippery slope. I feel bad that your friendship with this person ended. Sometimes we have to learn things the hard way and your circumstance is unfortunate.



In a similar way I've always felt more comfortable rooming with someone I was not originally friends with than with a friend of mine. I have always feared that being roommates with a friend would totally change the dynamic of that friendship and could very likely ruin it. And even in real estate a lot of times I feel better refering people I know to another agent for a referal fee just to avoid having things get awkward.

boymimbo
boymimbo Sep 01, 2011

Wizard,



You are actually quite generous, and that allows people to take advantage of your friendliness to their personal gain. I've had friendships ruined over business. Once I had contract work to write a computer program and was getting paid by the hour. Alas, I couldn't complete the project (it was too complex, and didn't have the time) and asked him to find someone else. I also really tried to get the project done and hid my project progess thinking I could come up with some breakthrough that would have ended the project with a success. My boss (and good friend) got really upset that I couldn't finish the project, but I just didn't have the ability to program per the business requirement. What I should have done was offer a rebate on some of the money that he paid me, but he was so pissed with me that he just didn't talk to me after that. That was 10 years ago. I really liked him too. He's the one who called me Mimbo.



It's important when dealing with friends and money to dictate what the terms of any business dealing are and never get in a situation where your friendship would be ruined if terms weren't met. Small milestones might be a way to accomplish this (small payments for project goals being met) along with a backup plan should the project fall through.

sunrise089
sunrise089 Sep 01, 2011

Of course if I have to pick a side here I pick Team Wizard, but I'm surprised you found yourself in this situation. I suspect if things went this poorly the other guy simply wasn't a true friend to begin with. I know I have true friends, imperfect friendships, and friendships of convenience. I'd only agree to an informal yet professional relationship with people in the first category.

DorothyGale
DorothyGale Sep 02, 2011

I am so sorry for this, Mr. W. ... there are very few opportunities in life for friendship ... and very few friends we have for a lifetime ...



But, I also disagree with this: "the lesson to be learned here is to avoid doing business with friends, whenever you can, unless maybe if it is a very simple cut-and-dry deal" ... when it comes to absolutes, they tend to close doors not open them ... such absolutes can lead to being closed minded to great opportunities and relationships that may come your way ...

Wizard
Wizard Sep 02, 2011

Thanks for all the recent comments. Agreed that my "lesson learned" was overly general. That is why I used the word "avoid," as opposed to "never." I agree, one should never rule out anything. Never say never.



Let's just say that if given the choice in choosing who do to a potentially hairy business deal with, a friend, or a stranger, all other things being equal, I would go with the stranger after the mess that just happened.

buzzpaff
buzzpaff Sep 02, 2011

I have a box set DVD of Shawshank Redemption. How I got it is quite a story. I sell DVDS and books on Amazon. Went to Denver 2 weeks ago and Blackhawk( to hit thrift stores and pawn shops as it's August in Grand Junction, hot and yard sales about over,

Last Friday hit yard sales one last time as this weekend is a Holiday and will be dead. Air conditioning out in my car and from 8 am till

noon, I did not find anything. But saw an old 1939 plate and emailed a guy who collects them and had to go out in the heat again and get the plates in Redlands. Low end houses there are still over $300,000. Got plates got lost in development. Saw a guy taking down his garage sale sign in drive way and DVDs on garage floor, He had over 100 DVD's appeared to be popular titles and a dozen box sets on floor. Seems he had just sold the rack. I asked what he wanted for the lot and he said make an offer, but only after he took out a disney box set Cinderella, that he said was worth $50. I did not know condition of the single DVD so I said $100 and he said OK.

Got home and found the Dvds were all wide screen, mostly sealed, unrated versions, Special editions. Figure to make $500 on them and had my Unemployed daughter ( and partner ) list the 10 box sets left after I took out Shawshank Redemption. She said the Cinderella was worth $60, And while she was listing the box sets one of them, Stars Wars Trilogy, sold for $70. My Dad always said cast your bread on the water and it will be returned 10 fold. I think my $25 bread for the plates was returned 25 to 30 fold.

buzzpaff
buzzpaff Sep 02, 2011

But the story is not over. I have fallen arches from working all day as a teen and then standing at night hustling pool. Had a foot

doctor appointment this morning at 10 am. Wife wanted to see the houses in Redlands I had described to her so we went there first.

Saw the old guy I had bought the plates from hanging up a sign. Followed him to his house and helped take the tarp off his 1928

Buick Roadster. Not for sale, just to attract to garage sale. He told me one jerk got pissed, because he would not sell him the hood ornament off it. I don't haggle. If i am buying a lot I just ask the people what they think is fair, and it usually is more than fair. The guy had a black 1941 Cali plate that he was nice enough to let me have for $5 even though every other plate was $25. It was 9:30 so

I headed to the doctors. Saw a yard sale that had a big sign antiques. I was running late, but what the hell! Nope, no more plates.

His mother-in-law had passed way and she had an antique shop. He was selling everything half what it was in her shop. My wife looked at some carnival glass, but we had to go. I saw a $300-500 brand new Huffy mountain bike as I was leaving. No sale sign on

it. Only noticed it because one pedal was missing, The tires still had those strings of rubber on the new mountain tires, so I was sure

it was new. I asked him about the missing pedal. He said he found the bike in back of shop, had no idea how it got there, or where the pedal was. Wife remarked Kevin, son-in-law needed a bike as they were down to one car and no job. I dont haggle so I asked what

he wanted for it. Then I drove to drs with windows down,( no air), and a bike wheel sticking out a rear door tied partially closed with a seat belt. LOL Took bike to son-in-law and daughter. Told Mary Jo she could reimburse me out of next Amazon Split_UP. I mean I had paid $25 for the bike.

That bread only comes back if you are honest about casting it. That's why I told the fella who gets the plates to not reimburse me.

But WIZ I will take you up on lunch or dinner in Vegas someday !!

Wizard
Posted by Wizard
Jul 17, 2011

License Plate Display

As HotBlonde mentioned in her blog entry My Vegas Trip July 2011, she was kind enough to come over to the library to watch me set up my license plates. This lasted about five minutes before I had the sense I was boring her and suggested she check out the good selection of gambling books, which happens to include my own. I don't blame her. Of the hundreds of license plate collectors and afficianados I've known through the years the number who were women is zero.

Anyway, some of my license plate collection is on display at the Sahara' rel='nofollow' target='_blank'>http://www.lvccld.org/about/branch_info.cfm?id=6]Sahara West library, at north-east corner of Sahara and Grand Canyon. There are two large cases in the lobby and a smaller one by the stairs in the library. In one of the lobby cases and the one in the library I put most of my collection of porcelain license plates. In the other lobby case I put my collection of inaugural license plates. Here is what I wrote about each display.


Porcelain License Plates
by
Michael Shackleford





Click on any picture for larger version.

In the very early car years, most of the various state licensing agencies told you your registration number and it was up to you to produce your own license plates. Some people made their own, usually attaching house numbers to a piece of wood. Some painted the number on the bumper. Most had them made by private companies, such as the Auto Club of Southern California. Today such plates are called "pre-states" among collectors, and are both rare and valuable.

After the pre-state years many states issued large heavy license plates made of porcelain on steel, such as those seen here. Other states, like Nevada, went right to making them with steel. Unlike today, in which license plates are made in prison, the porcelain plates you see here were made by private companies contracting to the state.

Each state has its own unique license plate history. This display seeks to capture just some of the porcelain plates of that era. Most porcelain plates that remain today are from the north-east states, because they issued them longer than other parts of the country, and had a greater share of the population at the time.

The following table shows the years each state produced a new porcelain style of license plates. Subsequent years may have seen the same porcelain plates in use, along with an updated registration tab, much like the stickers of today.

State Years
Arkansas 1911-1913
California 1914-1916
Colorado 1913-1915
Connecticut 1905, 1910-1916
Delaware 1909-1915, 1942
District of Columbia 1907
Georgia 1915
Indiana 1913
Kentucky 1910-1913
Maine 1905, 1912-1915
Maryland 1911-1914
Massachusetts 1903, 1908-1915
Michigan 1910-1914
Minnesota 1911
New Hampshire 1905, 1913-1918
New Jersey 1909-1915
New Mexico 1920-1923
New York 1912
North Carolina 1913-1916
Ohio 1908, 1910, 1911
Pennsylvania 1906-1915
Rhode Island 1904, 1908, 1912
Vermont 1905, 1907, 1909-1915
Virginia 1906, 1910-1913
Washington 1920
West Virginia 1907, 1909-1912, 1914, 1916
Wyoming 1916

Contact: Michael Shackleford, (Email omitted online)


Inaugural License Plates
by
Michael Shackleford





From 1933 to 2001, except 1945, the District of Columbia celebrated each presidential inaugural with commemorative license plates. These optional plates were valid for street use for a limited period of time during and after the inauguration.

Early Years (1933, 1937, 1941, 1949)

These four years featured a similar design from one year to the next, all with a red white and blue shield and similar coloring. 1941 was the only white year. Due to the metal shortage caused by World War II, there was no inaugural license plate in 1945. All four years saw a very limited printing, fewer than 1,000 each year, except 2,000 in 1949. Much fewer are known to still exist today. Consequently, such plates are very rare.

Eisenhower/Nixon Years (1953, 1957)

These two years are noteworthy for featuring photographs of President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon. Not just in inaugural license plate history, but in the entire history of U.S. license plates, this is the only usage of a person's image on a license plate. For this reason they are highly prized by collectors.

Flat Years (1961, 1965, 1969)

These years the plates were not embossed, but were completely flat, much like how Nevada plates are made today. It interesting that this style of flat license plates appeared as early as 1961, but did not become a norm for many states until recent years. By this time inaugural license plates were becoming more popular among the general public and registration numbers went up significantly.

Flag Years (1973, 1977, 1981)

These years are noteworthy for having a patriotic flag theme to them.

Stoic Years (1985 to 2001)

These years had a more serious and presidential look to them. No more large fonts and up-beat designs. Rather these years had small lettering and an official inaugural seal. The purpose of said design was said to be less for motor vehicle use and more as a souvenir wall decoration.

Souvenir Years (2005, 2009)

2005 marked the first year where inaugural license plates were no long valid for street use, and were sold strictly as souvenirs. Two separate styles were made. The only time they would have been seen on vehicles would have been during the inaugural parade. In the opinion of many license plate collectors, including me, I do not consider these two years to be true license plates because they were never street legal.

2009 saw one style of souvenir plate and a second that was used only on official cars in the inaugural parade.

More information: dcplates.com/Presidential.htm.
Contact: Michael Shackleford, (Email omitted online)

Comments

HotBlonde
HotBlonde Jul 17, 2011

Great stuff, Mike. It must've taken you a long time to collect all of these. You assumed I was bored but I would've liked to have learned more about these. I didn't even know they used to be made with porcelain on steel until you informed me of this. Although I'm not much into history I'm always interested in learning about other people's interests. And I'm glad I had gotten to finally get my hands on your book.



It would be cool to see pics of you posed in front of the cases.

odiousgambit
odiousgambit Jul 18, 2011

As usual with something I know little about, much more to this than I ever imagined. Thanks.



BTW I don't think you mean to include the states info listed twice.

Nareed
Nareed Jul 18, 2011

I must admit I've no interest at all in license plates as such, but as historical artifacts they are very interesting. For example, I'd like to know more about how cars were licensed at first, how the idea of paltes developed, and so on. I find it odd that people were required to come up with their own plates, too. Also, how did the manufacture of plates wind up in prisons? And is that the rule in other countries as well?

Ayecarumba
Ayecarumba Jul 18, 2011

Thanks for the post Mike. It is very interesting how these things started out as almost a home based business, then grew to eventually be taken over by the government.



Some questions regarding the early plates... Since folks were free to make their own plate, why did they use numbers? Were they required to use numbers and not letters? Since they were often house numbers (and homemade), what kept folks with the same house number on different streets from making duplicates?

Wizard
Wizard Jul 18, 2011

Quote:

Since folks were free to make their own plate, why did they use numbers? Were they required to use numbers and not letters? Since they were often house numbers (and homemade), what kept folks with the same house number on different streets from making duplicates?





Sorry for the confusion. The motor vehicle authority would have given you a specific number, like 2745. Then you make your own plate, or paid someone else to make it, and then put it on your car. Interestingly, I think in Delaware this is still an option. Living 10 years in Maryland, often seeing Delaware plates, I never once saw anyone invoke this option. Yes, once you had your number, and you planned to make your own plate, you would most likely go to the hardware store and buy some house numbers. In California you see a lot of the same bases, giving me the impression said hardware stores sold a frame to attach them to as well. There is a good photo of California pre-states at http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/. Other states saw leather in use a lot for the frame of pre-states, but not California for some reason.



Good informative link: http://porcelainplates.net/california_archive.html.

AZDuffman
AZDuffman Jul 18, 2011

This isn't a direct comment on your display but involved license plates. I read recently in Dubai some people (<36 I guess) have single-digit license plates. Supposedly the right to have such a plate is worth millions. I was wondering if you ever heard of this?

Wizard
Posted by Wizard
Jul 13, 2011

Spindle Hunting in Victoria

In my walking and running about Victoria, British Columbia, I noticed sculptures of spindles in various places around the city. At first glance I thought they were sundials. Eventually I became curious about what the things were and finally read a sign posted by one of them. It indicated there were seven of them scattered about the harbor area. Judging by the map, I had already seen six of them. My last evening in Victoria I devised an idea to try to visit all seven of them in my morning jog, before I had to catch the ferry back to Seattle.

At about 5:30 AM on July 12, 2011, I bought along my camera and a little tripod to capture the experience of my spindle quest. Click on any image for a larger version.

Spindle 1



This one is the northern most spindle, located on the north side of the harbor, along a scenic and fairly quiet walking path.

Spindle 2



This one was hard to find because the location of it on the map was deceptive. The sign said it was on the site of the Hudson Bay company fort. There is a Hudson Bay store close to the location on the map, and I searched all around it in vain. Then I searched all around the harbor area based on the pictures of the buildings on the map, but that didn't work either. Eventually I found along the harbor on Wharf Street, about where it intersects Fort Street.

Spindle 3



This is the only spindle not within plain view of water, but set aside a couple blocks from the harbor. It is next to the City Hall building on Pandora Street, very close to the condo where I stayed.

Spindle 4



This one is right in the heart of the harbor area where tourists can buy trinkets and take a ride on water taxis. Probably the most seen of all the spindles.

Spindle 5



This is the most remote spindle and the hardest to find. I just knew it was "beside the overlook on Beacon Hill." However, Beacon Hill is a pretty big park, and I ran all over the place looking for said "overlook." The overlook is quite obvious if you looked at park from the east side, as there is clearly a hill with a tall flag on top. You can't see it at all approaching from the west, as I did, until you actually get there. As I departed Victoria on the ferry I felt rather stupid because you can see the flag, which is very close to the spindle, from miles away in the water.

Spindle 6



This one is by the Royal Museum, and easy to find.

Spindle 7



This one is directly across the bay from spindle number 1. You can easily see number 1 from number 7, and vise versa.

Overall that was a fun challenge. It took about 2.5 hours, about one hour of which was spent being lost.

For more information, please visit Signs of Lekwungen, at the city of Victoria web site. The web site gave me more of an appreciation of the artwork and history behind the spindles.

If you do visit Victoria I would encourage you to try to find as many as you can. They are all in very scenic locations. Best of all, the quest to find them is free.

Comments

odiousgambit
odiousgambit Jul 13, 2011

I don't want to give away what the spindles are representing by discussing it here, but it was quite a puzzle. I didn't even have a guess.

Wizard
Wizard Jul 13, 2011

Go ahead and give it away. There is a good PDF document that explains why each location was chosen. Each has a unique design of significance to the tribe of that area. In retrospect, I should have taken a picture of the face of each one, but I was getting fatigued with seeing totem poles and Indian art everywhere at the time.

rdw4potus
rdw4potus Jul 13, 2011

Am I reading correctly that your morning run took 2.5 hours? Did you run 15 miles?

Wizard
Wizard Jul 13, 2011

Q: Am I reading correctly that your morning run took 2.5 hours? Did you run 15 miles?

A: I try to do a half marathon (13 miles) on a weekly basis. This would have been about that long. I probably ran about 11 miles that day, including a run to the end of the jetty. The rest of the time was spent fussing with my camera, waiting at red lights, and not running as fast as I usually do, due to not being familiar with the area.

thecesspit
thecesspit Jul 13, 2011

This is awesome, seeing Victoria through someone else's eyes. Did you also see the world's tallest totem pole at Beacon Hill park? There's a whole bunch at Songhees as well (Spindle #1).



I was looking at these at work and someone swore blind that they were new for this year.... he's lived in Vic for the last 20 years...



11 miles is a bit long for me to try and run between them just yet...

rdw4potus
rdw4potus Jul 13, 2011

I'm not sure that I've run 13 miles in my life (not counting running as a part of another sport). I salute you, sir:-)

thecesspit
thecesspit Jul 13, 2011

Hmm, just checking the route, if you know where you are going, it's about 6.5k end to end. If you don't know, that's a different deal. Would be a quite a nice little challenge. Thanks!



The Times Colonist 10k race actually goes within 50 yards of all of these except for the first one.

Wizard
Wizard Jul 13, 2011

Quote:

...it's about 6.5k end to end





Dang, I must have spent more time and mileage looking for them than I thought. However, that was part of the fun, to be honest with you. Nothing like running around in circles for half an hour and then finally finding one.



Does anyone know of anything similar to this concept anywhere else? The scattered cows/pigs don't count. I'm interesting in unique ideas. For example, in Australia there are scattered "big things" all over the country.

thecesspit
thecesspit Jul 13, 2011

Vancouver had a long sculpture route back in 2006/07... some of those parts might still be there.

DJTeddyBear
DJTeddyBear Jul 14, 2011

Never been there, don't know if I ever will, but it's still fascinating to "visit" via the internet.



Keep posting your vacation stuff!



Quote:

I was looking at these at work and someone swore blind that they were new for this year....



The website mentioned that discussions started in 2004, and check the bottom of the back of that PDF. There's a logo with a date: 2005.

crazyiam
crazyiam Jul 15, 2011

If you are ever on the UCDavis campus try and find all the eggheads. Its probably a mile (one way) to get them all if you can find them on your first try. You can combine that with the toad tunnel to add some more milage.

hook3670
hook3670 Jul 15, 2011

Did you go to the Butchart Gardens while you were there? They are amazing.

Wizard
Wizard Jul 16, 2011

Quote: crazyiam

If you are ever on the UCDavis campus try and find all the eggheads...





Thanks, I will.



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Did you go to the Butchart Gardens while you were there? They are amazing.





Yes. What trip to Victoria would be complete without that. The best garden I've ever seen. Very crowded though.

Wizard
Posted by Wizard
Jun 28, 2011

Mount Shasta

I mentioned in my last blog entry I would have a separate entry about climbing Mount Shasta on my Odds site. So please check out my entry titled Mount Shasta. I hope you enjoy it.

Comments

Ayecarumba
Ayecarumba Jun 28, 2011

Thanks Wizard, that was great. I really enjoyed the videos too. It seems like a lot of fun to glissade the descent. Are you sitting on anything? or just sliding on your bottom using your ice axe as a brake?

Wizard
Wizard Jun 28, 2011

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Thanks Wizard, that was great. I really enjoyed the videos too. It seems like a lot of fun to glissade the descent. Are you sitting on anything? or just sliding on your bottom using your ice axe as a brake?





Thanks. Glad you liked the videos. Those are officially my first on YouTube. Exactly, I slid down on my bottom and used my ice ax as a brake. The scraping sound is me digging the ice ax into the ice to avoid going too fast.

TIMSPEED
TIMSPEED Jun 28, 2011

Wizard, I wished I'd of read you were coming into Reno..as I'm in Reno every weekend.

teddys
teddys Jun 28, 2011

Fantastic! It makes me want to climb a mountain of sizable height.