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April 13th, 2020 at 4:25:23 AM permalink
the virus has given fresh meat to the haters
vicious, racist attacks on those with Asian heritage are occuring in the U.S.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/magazine/asian-american-discrimination-coronavirus.html
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April 13th, 2020 at 10:37:08 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Then why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?

"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR



Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.

Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.

The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.
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SanchoPanza
April 13th, 2020 at 2:40:01 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Thanks! Buttttt...... I'm not sure the WHO has a lot (or any?) credibility now!

I understand it never really did, on any topic. Too political.

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For those interested in concoctions, some people have taken Plague Water recipes from the 1700s and re-created them.

If you think of Leadbelly's Goodnight Irene, that Sweet Corney must have been good stuff for poor people living in swamps to take, but I can't find a reliable source for the recipe.
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April 13th, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM permalink
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Here is a relevant math question. I am interested in state by state daily numbers, new cases, deaths, to measure the curves locally. Which site had reliable data?


The New York Times is maintaining a dataset (https://github.com/nytimes/covid-19-data) with everything you're looking for. It gets updated daily.
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April 14th, 2020 at 12:34:50 PM permalink
Most diseases are named after cities. I can think of 2 after countries, the Spanish flu and french pox. Both were incorrect of origin. Both were during wars.

USA originally thought the 2009 swine flu came from Asia. But later discovered it came from america.
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April 14th, 2020 at 12:51:43 PM permalink
German measles.
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April 14th, 2020 at 2:05:12 PM permalink
Quote: jjjoooggg

Most diseases are named after cities. I can think of 2 after countries, the Spanish flu and french pox. Both were incorrect of origin. Both were during wars.

USA originally thought the 2009 swine flu came from Asia. But later discovered it came from america.


So we should have called it The Mexican Flu! (pig farm near Veracruz)
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April 14th, 2020 at 6:11:46 PM permalink
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Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: SanchoPanza

Then why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?

"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR



Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.

Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.

The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.

None of that deals with the real news of the day: New York reported no new cases of Covid-19.
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April 14th, 2020 at 6:21:12 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Non

Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: SanchoPanza

Then why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?

"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR



Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.

Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.

The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.

None of that deals with the real news of the day: New York reported no new cases of Covid-19.



I'm sure you have a source for this.
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April 14th, 2020 at 6:34:28 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: SanchoPanza

Non

Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: SanchoPanza

Then why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?

"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR



Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.

Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.

The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.

None of that deals with the real news of the day: New York reported no new cases of Covid-19.



I'm sure you have a source for this.

More than the OP. "Morning Joe."

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