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December 9th, 2020 at 3:32:36 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I assume you were elected to office? Or are you judging someone without being in the same situation? : 0




Well..... I was quoting someone else. And specifically mentioned that.

I have been elected to office, but only in volunteer organizations.

The guyís point is clear. If someone decided that his own job was not Ďessentialí and cancelled it Iíd like to hear that story. I wonít hold my breath.

Iím just saying itís easy to shut off someone elseís livelihood while yours is not at risk.
terapined
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December 9th, 2020 at 3:37:18 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO



The guyís point is clear. If someone decided that his own job was not Ďessentialí and cancelled it Iíd like to hear that story. I wonít hold my breath.

Iím just saying itís easy to shut off someone elseís livelihood while yours is not at risk.


The economy and the marketplace determined my job was not essential and canceled it due to the virus.
I have a ton of friends in that situation.
No job after decades in an industry
It sucks
You suck it up and move on
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December 9th, 2020 at 4:59:47 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

What is interesting to me is the total American lives lost in WW2 is less than the population of the small city of Henderson Nevada where I live. We blow everything out of proportion.


Here is an interesting stat
Deadliest days in American history
Galveston Hurricane 8k dead
Antietam 3600 dead
9/11 2977 dead
Last Thursday 2861 dead
Last Wed 2762 dead
Last Friday 2439 dead
Pearl Harbor 2403 dead
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December 9th, 2020 at 6:57:03 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Here is an interesting stat
Deadliest days in American history
Galveston Hurricane 8k dead
Antietam 3600 dead
9/11 2977 dead
Last Thursday 2861 dead
Last Wed 2762 dead
Last Friday 2439 dead
Pearl Harbor 2403 dead



Spent a little time looking at this. This source does a good fact check. While the core claim isnít wrong, there are some events not captured, notably the 1918 flu where an average of more than 6,000 died a day for the month of October.

https://www.king5.com/mobile/article/news/verify/coronavirus-december-seen-some-deadliest-days-in-us-history/507-b6a61e57-aa78-4911-b19c-c4a2576f301f
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SOOPOO
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December 9th, 2020 at 7:21:05 PM permalink
About 8k Americans die every day from all causes. I am interested in TOTAL death rates now during pandemic. When listed as 2500 daily COVID -19 deaths now, are total deaths up to 10,500?

In my neck of the woods this second wave is far worse than the first wave. WAY more hospitalizations.
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December 9th, 2020 at 9:50:03 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

About 8k Americans die every day from all causes. I am interested in TOTAL death rates now during pandemic. When listed as 2500 daily COVID -19 deaths now, are total deaths up to 10,500?

In my neck of the woods this second wave is far worse than the first wave. WAY more hospitalizations.



That's true.

I find it disconcerting that people are surprised at that as if it's unexpected.

The Spanish Flu which is mirroring this pandemic struck moderate in the Spring first wave and then came in crushing during the Fall second wave.

There were also anti-mask campaigns and resistance during the Spanish Flu. The anti-mask locations bragged about the Spanish Flu numbers going down in Summer, then got hit much harder in the Fall than the mask ordinance states

Everything occuring now was easily predictable precisely because it's literally happened before
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December 9th, 2020 at 10:52:27 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

About 8k Americans die every day from all causes. I am interested in TOTAL death rates now during pandemic. When listed as 2500 daily COVID -19 deaths now, are total deaths up to 10,500?

In my neck of the woods this second wave is far worse than the first wave. WAY more hospitalizations.


The numbers are very scary concerning excess deaths.
This year it is very high meaning Covid deaths are probably under reported
Jan to Oct 2020
USA excess deaths almost 300k but only 2/3 of that number has been attributed to covid
2020 has been a terrible year death wise in the USA

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm
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December 10th, 2020 at 6:48:33 AM permalink
I heard that there are over 30,000 extra deaths in Florida over expectations, but the Florida government is still claiming Covid deaths are under 20,000.
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December 10th, 2020 at 7:56:08 AM permalink
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I heard that there are over 30,000 extra deaths in Florida over expectations, but the Florida government is still claiming Covid deaths are under 20,000.



Florida was called out very early in the pandemic for efforts to monkey with the data. Health Department staff were directed to "adjust" data on the public Internet display to show a lower positivity level. The Governor needed it to open everything up (after the nationwide shutdown).

Recent press this week describe Florida law enforcement arresting Rebekah Jones, the GIS director who refused to doctor the data, and was fired last May for insubordination. Apparently someone recently posted (hacked, according to the arrest) a call-out Internet post to staff to stand for the Truth (or somesuch). There is one log-in and one password, and everyone uses the same "Health Operations" account at the state's emergency operations center. Her GoFundMe is approaching $250K after only a few days.

Bottom line: No one can trust C-virus data from Florida. (But, it's all we have...)

Even more important: Johns Hopkins Univ. data show (as best we can determine) that Florida's "open up everything" has resulted in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths increasing. The current level of C-virus cases has overwhelmed Florida's testing-tracing program. Thankfully, Florida has not seen the "wildfire" level seen in some of the other states. Yet.
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December 10th, 2020 at 11:17:38 AM permalink
I hear some big financial names are moving operations to Florida. Musk moving to Texas. They are not putting up with the feces NY and Cali call pandemic efforts.
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