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billryan
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DeMango
June 30th, 2020 at 10:53:39 AM permalink
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Hope you wore a mask. Mississippi had 669 new cases yesterday, while here in the cesspool (NYC) with almost 3x the population of Mississippi, we had 240.



None of that matters. All that is important is the casinos are open.
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June 30th, 2020 at 2:11:56 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

None of that matters. All that is important is the casinos are open.




even if the casinos are closed a gambler can still play slots 𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦 with the offshore books that are probably technically illegal for U.S. citizens to use

and get some really cool free play too if they read the fine print very carefully and are willing to say "𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘩𝘪𝘨𝘩" when the casino says "𝘫𝘶𝘮𝘱."


𝙃𝙊𝙒 𝙎𝙒𝙀𝙀𝙏 𝙇𝙄𝙁𝙀 𝙄𝙎..........................................................😄
𝘈 𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘣𝘺 𝘮𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴.... ᴴᵉʳᵐᵃⁿ ᴹᵉˡᵛⁱˡˡᵉ
rxwine
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July 3rd, 2020 at 1:25:54 AM permalink
Good news.

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A team at Henry Ford Health System in Southeast Michigan said Thursday its study of 2,541 hospitalized patients found that those given hydroxychloroquine were much less likely to die.

Dr. Marcus Zervos, division head of infectious disease for Henry Ford Health System, said 26% of those not given hydroxychloroquine died, compared to 13% of those who got the drug. The team looked back at everyone treated in the hospital system since the first patient in March.

"Overall crude mortality rates were 18.1% in the entire cohort, 13.5% in the hydroxychloroquine alone group, 20.1% among those receiving hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin, 22.4% among the azithromycin alone group, and 26.4% for neither drug," the team wrote in a report published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.

Our results do differ from some other studies," Zervos told a news conference. "What we think was important in ours ... is that patients were treated early. For hydroxychloroquine to have a benefit, it needs to begin before the patients begin to suffer some of the severe immune reactions that patients can have with Covid," he added.



One thing I notice that differs from earlier claims, is the survival rate is better without azithromycin which was often being promoted along with hydroxychloroquine.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
rxwine
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July 3rd, 2020 at 1:30:27 AM permalink
Btw, for those who want to open up fast, you can argue, at least for awhile, that until they get all these drugs out of trials, the delay is likely going to save more lives.

I don't know how much more of the older drugs need to finish trials. We'll either hear more positive results soon or nothing, I imagine.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
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July 3rd, 2020 at 6:15:10 AM permalink
Just saw on TV News that a Tempe, AZ bar lost it's liquor license for forcing/allowing COVID-19 positive employees to work.

Hearing calls from the resident TV doctor that indoor dining should be banned nationwide. You're about 19 times more likely to get sick with indoors dining than with outdoors dining.
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July 3rd, 2020 at 12:55:09 PM permalink
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Well, the federal Coronavirus task force (I think it was Dr. Fauci) announced at the press conference last night a current projection of 100,000 to 200,000 deaths in the U.S. from covid-19. They also did admit that the modelers say that we would have to be "very lucky" for the number to be low as 100,000. A number of 240,000 deaths was their worst case in the set of modeling runs that they were relying on.

They (the President) also said that the number of deaths was roughly projected at 2.2 million without social distancing.

They also said that the projections could change based on unexpected events - "if more sites flare up then expected" was a specific example that they mentioned. Michigan has flared in the last several days and they seemed to indicate that that was unexpected.

Finally, they said that the only way to get the number under 100,000 deaths would be "mitigation" -which means, I guess, breakthroughs in treatments or possibly in vaccines.

So, now the armchair analysts amongst us have a benchmark projection to denounce or support.


Spot on from 3 months ago
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July 3rd, 2020 at 2:07:41 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Quote: gordonm888

Well, the federal Coronavirus task force (I think it was Dr. Fauci) announced at the press conference last night a current projection of 100,000 to 200,000 deaths in the U.S. from covid-19. They also did admit that the modelers say that we would have to be "very lucky" for the number to be low as 100,000. A number of 240,000 deaths was their worst case in the set of modeling runs that they were relying on.

They (the President) also said that the number of deaths was roughly projected at 2.2 million without social distancing.

They also said that the projections could change based on unexpected events - "if more sites flare up then expected" was a specific example that they mentioned. Michigan has flared in the last several days and they seemed to indicate that that was unexpected.

Finally, they said that the only way to get the number under 100,000 deaths would be "mitigation" -which means, I guess, breakthroughs in treatments or possibly in vaccines.

So, now the armchair analysts amongst us have a benchmark projection to denounce or support.


Spot on from 3 months ago



The worst is yet to come they say (WHO). Someone here predicted 40k is about it when the numbers were still low. This will be about 2-3 years long battle.
But deaths are the second worse thing about this. The main issue is the high contagiousness, hospitalization rate and long term damage and high odds of secondary infection (long lasting illness and predisposure to other lung problems).
billryan
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July 3rd, 2020 at 2:12:22 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Quote: gordonm888

Well, the federal Coronavirus task force (I think it was Dr. Fauci) announced at the press conference last night a current projection of 100,000 to 200,000 deaths in the U.S. from covid-19. They also did admit that the modelers say that we would have to be "very lucky" for the number to be low as 100,000. A number of 240,000 deaths was their worst case in the set of modeling runs that they were relying on.

They (the President) also said that the number of deaths was roughly projected at 2.2 million without social distancing.

They also said that the projections could change based on unexpected events - "if more sites flare up then expected" was a specific example that they mentioned. Michigan has flared in the last several days and they seemed to indicate that that was unexpected.

Finally, they said that the only way to get the number under 100,000 deaths would be "mitigation" -which means, I guess, breakthroughs in treatments or possibly in vaccines.

So, now the armchair analysts amongst us have a benchmark projection to denounce or support.


Spot on from 3 months ago



Why don't you post some of your posts from three months ago?
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July 3rd, 2020 at 4:22:51 PM permalink
So this virus has clearly mutated since it's early form. Scientists have labeled the virus that is dominate today as G614, while the virus from March and April was D614. I have no idea what those labels mean. But they are saying today's virus is more contagious than the earlier form and it multiplies in the body 3 to 9 times quicker.

I suspect this multiplying in the body faster is the reason more healthy younger people are getting sick. the original strain used to take 7-10 day for a person to have any symptoms, if they were going to have symptoms. It took this long because the virus reproduced or multiplied slower. So during that 7-10 days that the virus was reproducing and gaining strength, a healthy immune system was already creating antibodies to fight off the virus. In healthy people with a strong immune system the virus never really got the upper hand. The results was young healthy people had minor or no symptoms.

So with the virus now reproducing and multiplying faster, even the young healthy people are having symptoms and getting sick to some degree before the body catches up with the antibodies to fight off the virus.

So more people are getting sick and having symptoms, including younger healthy people, BUT although the experts haven't come out and said it yet, the death rate is dropping. people are not getting as critically sick and dying at the same rate as March and April. That is good news.

And for those of us that have had covid-19, even in the earlier form, so far scientists are saying the antibodies from the earlier form are still working against the newer "mutated" strains. To be honest, even though they say that, I myself don't have a lot of confidence in that. This virus is too new and changing and I just don't think they know enough about immunity yet. That is why I have chosen to put the casino related part of my life on hold for a while. I am a risk vs reward type guy and I am just not comfortable with the risk of spending a lot of time in the casino environment yet.
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July 3rd, 2020 at 5:43:34 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

So this virus has clearly mutated since it's early form. Scientists have labeled the virus that is dominate today as G614, while the virus from March and April was D614. I have no idea what those labels mean. But they are saying today's virus is more contagious than the earlier form and it multiplies in the body 3 to 9 times quicker.

I suspect this multiplying in the body faster is the reason more healthy younger people are getting sick. the original strain used to take 7-10 day for a person to have any symptoms, if they were going to have symptoms. It took this long because the virus reproduced or multiplied slower. So during that 7-10 days that the virus was reproducing and gaining strength, a healthy immune system was already creating antibodies to fight off the virus. In healthy people with a strong immune system the virus never really got the upper hand. The results was young healthy people had minor or no symptoms.

So with the virus now reproducing and multiplying faster, even the young healthy people are having symptoms and getting sick to some degree before the body catches up with the antibodies to fight off the virus.

So more people are getting sick and having symptoms, including younger healthy people, BUT although the experts haven't come out and said it yet, the death rate is dropping. people are not getting as critically sick and dying at the same rate as March and April. That is good news.

And for those of us that have had covid-19, even in the earlier form, so far scientists are saying the antibodies from the earlier form are still working against the newer "mutated" strains. To be honest, even though they say that, I myself don't have a lot of confidence in that. This virus is too new and changing and I just don't think they know enough about immunity yet. That is why I have chosen to put the casino related part of my life on hold for a while. I am a risk vs reward type guy and I am just not comfortable with the risk of spending a lot of time in the casino environment yet.



Kewlj

Therapuetic treatment coming soon will make this no biggie.

Just go to hospital and get a few shots.

Leronlimab coming soon
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