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AxelWolf
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June 14th, 2020 at 2:16:57 PM permalink
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Just bill it to China, maybe they’ll buy some soybeans and give us a good deal on some cheap Walmart stuff people don’t really need anyway.

I agree with billing China.
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June 14th, 2020 at 2:21:08 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why?

Because the people who are willing to do all those things, including staying home shouldn't be footing the bill for the people who aren't.
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June 14th, 2020 at 3:09:33 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Because the people who are willing to do all those things, including staying home shouldn't be footing the bill for the people who aren't.



I still don't get it. But by that logic should the people who want to hide out at home pay for the destroyed businesses and laid off people that the shutdown caused?
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June 14th, 2020 at 4:14:02 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I still don't get it. But by that logic should the people who want to hide out at home pay for the destroyed businesses and laid off people that the shutdown caused?



No, the people at home are owed a stipend for saving the health and lives of those laid off workers

If it was so bad they should have gotten an essential job like at a meat packing plant.

Oh, wait sorry they would have probably died their too
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June 14th, 2020 at 4:21:37 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

No, the people at home are owed a stipend for saving the health and lives of those laid off workers

If it was so bad they should have gotten an essential job like at a meat packing plant.

Oh, wait sorry they would have probably died their too



Sitting at home like a lump is "saving lives?"

Not sure how to break this to you, but even when a bug is going around life goes on. Work needs to be done. As to dying, when your number is up your number is up.

Opening the economy is simply positive EV.
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darkoz
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June 14th, 2020 at 4:36:13 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Sitting at home like a lump is "saving lives?"

Not sure how to break this to you, but even when a bug is going around life goes on. Work needs to be done. As to dying, when your number is up your number is up.

Opening the economy is simply positive EV.



I think you meant death goes on.

Enjoy the pandemic.

NY now has less daily death from Coronavirus than any state in the US.

We got that through a shutdown.

NY'ers aren't whining about it.

Hopefully we haven't ruined that work by having all these protests. That is a big fear.

118,000 dead in four months. I know you said no amount of death means anything to you so the numbers don't matter. Don't even understand why you promote the 1% death rate

You seem to imply if Covid-19 had a 100% death rate you would be for opening the economy and no masks.

Correct?
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June 14th, 2020 at 5:02:49 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I think you meant death goes on.

Enjoy the pandemic.

NY now has less daily death from Coronavirus than any state in the US.

We got that through a shutdown.

NY'ers aren't whining about it.

Hopefully we haven't ruined that work by having all these protests. That is a big fear.

118,000 dead in four months. I know you said no amount of death means anything to you so the numbers don't matter. Don't even understand why you promote the 1% death rate

You seem to imply if Covid-19 had a 100% death rate you would be for opening the economy and no masks.

Correct?



If it had a 100% death rate no reason to shut down as humans would die out within a year no matter what.

Life has a 100% death rate.

See, the reactions to the protests show no need for lockdowns. And they continue do show this.

I am not quite sure how you can credit the lockdowns when NYS had the highest death rate during the lockdown. Perhaps there is just a curve and that is that,
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June 14th, 2020 at 5:05:58 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

If it had a 100% death rate no reason to shut down as humans would die out within a year no matter what.

Life has a 100% death rate.

See, the reactions to the protests show no need for lockdowns. And they continue do show this.

I am not quite sure how you can credit the lockdowns when NYS had the highest death rate during the lockdown. Perhaps there is just a curve and that is that,



Unbelievable statements from you.

The lockdown was because we had the highest death rate in the country. Not the other way around.

I know you understand cause and effect. Why do you try switching stuff around?

Lol, and if it was a 100% death rate then the lockdowns would save the world.

You do understand a 100% death rate doesn't mean the whole world dies. It means 100% of the people who contract the virus dies
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AZDuffman
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June 14th, 2020 at 5:17:35 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Unbelievable statements from you.

The lockdown was because we had the highest death rate in the country. Not the other way around.

I know you understand cause and effect. Why do you try switching stuff around?

Lol, and if it was a 100% death rate then the lockdowns would save the world.

You do understand a 100% death rate doesn't mean the whole world dies. It means 100% of the people who contract the virus dies



NYS was one of the tightest lockdown states and still had the most deaths. Lockdown did not work.

Eventually 100% of the people would get it because if everyone locked down the world would starve to death.

The lockdowns were supposed to be for a fer weeks. Going on 100 days. With that kind of record they are not working. Time to end them. Small chance of it working against the large chance of a depression. Opening up is the AP move.
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June 14th, 2020 at 5:29:58 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

NYS was one of the tightest lockdown states and still had the most deaths. Lockdown did not work.



LOL!!!!! Tightest lockdown state?

Mass transit jammed.
Dry cleaners open.
Take out pizza "essential"
COVID-19 patients sent back to nursing homes.
Liquor stores open.
Bottle return places open.
Accountants essential.
Bill collectors essential.
NYC parks packed.
Need an Uber? OK.

We use the word 'lockdown' far too freely....

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