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December 10th, 2020 at 3:20:14 PM permalink
USPaper,

I happen to think you are sincere so I will give you my rule of thumb for staying within the rules of this forum. Attack the post, not the poster.

Also, I do want to remind you that you offered to do a reasonable penance that I set, which I did up thread.
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December 10th, 2020 at 3:20:46 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

I guess I will just voluntarily remove myself from this site if people are allowed to give their opinions about me but I will be punished for giving my opinion about them. I'm going to leave this forum with saying 1 final message regarding who I am as an individual. I just need some time to write it.



What a shame. Lol
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December 10th, 2020 at 3:26:43 PM permalink
So it's a race! Hurry Mental, hurry!
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December 10th, 2020 at 3:37:07 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Your basically saying I can telling someone here that they are bitching but I can't call them a bit**?

So I could have said that unJon has noobish combinatoric skills or that his combinatoric skills are noobish?

In my opinion, that's actually pretty much on the ball, IMHO.
I could say that your posts seemed like whinges, But I could not call you a whinger.
Just as we get progress, you stomp off in a huff. Oh hum. You are not a prisoner here, nor are you excluded.
Good luck for the future, especially with the game that you are so passionate about.
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December 10th, 2020 at 3:55:24 PM permalink
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So it's a race! Hurry Mental, hurry!



I am already at the point where I have satisfied my own curiosity about the problem. I don't think is possible to satisfy OP, but that doesn't concern me. OP points out that part of the problem was to sort the classes of hands by probability: "Your job is to put these hand rankings in order from least to greatest probability of occurring". Ordering is a trivial matter once you have the ability to calculate the combos and overlaps.

OP could make me a millionaire ("we can both become millionaires from this"), but this is an even simpler task. All I have to do is donate away my extra millions to make myself a millionaire.

I usually find reasons to do a lot of programming when I am active in the casinos. I have been inactive since March, so it was good for me to get a little practice in. Thanks to all who provided comments about the technical aspects of the problem at hand.
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:12:32 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

In my opinion, that's actually pretty much on the ball, IMHO.
I could say that your posts seemed like whinges, But I could not call you a whinger.
Just as we get progress, you stomp off in a huff. Oh hum. You are not a prisoner here, nor are you excluded.
Good luck for the future, especially with the game that you are so passionate about.



I'll leaving because of your threats. I don't know how else to prove I'm not trolling. You are causing me emotional distress, my stomach & head both hurt because of your threat. I am crying & spazzing out because I don't know how to ask you questions without you coming to the conclusion I’m trolling. I personally don't believe you are a nice person & your comment is nothing but evil. I'm just trying to help is all!
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:13:09 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

USPaper,

I happen to think you are sincere so I will give you my rule of thumb for staying within the rules of this forum. Attack the post, not the poster.

Also, I do want to remind you that you offered to do a reasonable penance that I set, which I did up thread.



I like the advice
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:14:45 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

What a shame. Lol



Your comment is nothing but evil also. You should be ashamed of yourself!
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:16:36 PM permalink
Quote: Mental

I am already at the point where I have satisfied my own curiosity about the problem. I don't think is possible to satisfy OP, but that doesn't concern me. OP points out that part of the problem was to sort the classes of hands by probability: "Your job is to put these hand rankings in order from least to greatest probability of occurring". Ordering is a trivial matter once you have the ability to calculate the combos and overlaps.

OP could make me a millionaire ("we can both become millionaires from this"), but this is an even simpler task. All I have to do is donate away my extra millions to make myself a millionaire.

I usually find reasons to do a lot of programming when I am active in the casinos. I have been inactive since March, so it was good for me to get a little practice in. Thanks to all who provided comments about the technical aspects of the problem at hand.



Just forget about solving this problem anyone's, your comment can't solve the 5 card probabilities if your life depended on it.
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:20:21 PM permalink
Have anyone of you evil people ever done anything good for the world? It's the holiday season yet everyone just wants to hurt people and make others feel terrible. The majority of you need to be ashamed of yourselves!!!
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:29:03 PM permalink
Every Christmas I pass out food to the homeless and lead a group of carols to sing Christmas songs to 3 old folks communities. What do you do this time of year? Talk crap about people you don't know? Make fun of people who you think are beneath you???
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:37:03 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Every Christmas I pass out food to the homeless and lead a group of carols to sing Christmas songs to 3 old folks communities. What do you do this time of year? Talk crap about people you don't know? Make fun of people who you think are beneath you???



You sound like a good man. Please leave now.
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December 10th, 2020 at 4:43:04 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

You sound like a good man. Please leave now.



I don't see the point of actively in gauging in conversations with someone just to make fun of them when you don't know them! Seriously, everyone who just wants to talk shit please leave my threads for the rest of my life & there will be no problems!!!
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December 10th, 2020 at 5:00:27 PM permalink
Quote: Mental



Hand Number Frequency Cumm. Prob Cycle
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Color_Quad 25 0.0006376% 0.0006376% 156849
Quad_Flush 100 0.0025502% 0.0025502% 39212
Suited_D2T 300 0.0076507% 0.0076507% 13071
CS_Doublet 300 0.0076507% 0.0076507% 13071
2T_Flush 400 0.0102009% 0.0102009% 9803
DJ_Quad 600 0.0153013% 0.0153013% 6535
Co_Doublet 1500 0.0382534% 0.0382534% 2614
D2_Tone 1500 0.0382534% 0.0382534% 2614
Su_Double 2700 0.0688560% 0.0688560% 1452
Dblt_Flush 3600 0.0918080% 0.0918080% 1089
Suited_2T 4800 0.1224107% 0.1224107% 817
Co_Triplet 9600 0.2448214% 0.2448214% 408
Su_Triplet 19000 0.4845425% 0.4845425% 206
2_Tone 27600 0.7038617% 0.7038617% 142



It's been over 3 hours and still hasn't solved the rest of the problem. I believe I am correct that no programmer could solve the 4 card probabilities in 24 hours; even if they were given the answers lol.

See the problem is this guy's comment is so sure that it can do this problem only because the comment has done 2/3rds of the hand rankings. But what the comment fails to mention is that those 2/3rds of the hand rankings account for less then 5% of the total possible hand combinations lol

P.S. 1.8% to be exact 🤟

P.P.S. What a convenient spot to quit the problem before it gets tough 👏
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December 10th, 2020 at 5:07:46 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Every Christmas I pass out food to the homeless and lead a group of carols to sing Christmas songs to 3 old folks communities. What do you do this time of year? Talk crap about people you don't know? Make fun of people who you think are beneath you???

Nice work USPG. I commend you for being a better person than I am.
There is so clearly so much passion in your project. It's remarkable and one day, maybe you will get traction and it will make you fantastically successful and rich. To that end, I wish you well.

I don't think anyone here is trying to 'do you down' or mock you or your work. I'm not.

But like ignorant peasants, we cannot appreciate your greatness. You descend here like some 25th century guru trying to impress a bunch of yokels with your incomprehensible genius. Maybe you chose the wrong audience to impress. Just maybe you are not being judged by your peers, but by ignorant fools.

To that extent, I humbly suggest that you are performing to a crowd that does not appreciate you, like a brilliant comic who's sharp repartee goes over the heads of a bar-room crowd.

I can understand how that would upset you and I doubt that was the intent of anyone here, especially me.Like any genius, you seem to struggle to relate. We peasants cannot fix that for you. Sorry.

A bit like that job interview, you need to decide your goal and your best way of reaching that goal. Just a hint of attitude adjustment might have been all it took to succeed, there and here. You did get some engagement here, but I fear you dismissed it..

I still sincerely wish you all the best, but I suggest that your worst enemy is not me, or any other member here, but closer to home. You need to relate to your audience, Work the crowd, maybe meet them on their pathetic level.
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December 10th, 2020 at 5:43:32 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Nice work USPG. I commend you for being a better person than I am.
There is so clearly so much passion in your project. It's remarkable and one day, maybe you will get traction and it will make you fantastically successful and rich. To that end, I wish you well.

I don't think anyone here is trying to 'do you down' or mock you or your work. I'm not.

But like ignorant peasants, we cannot appreciate your greatness. You descend here like some 25th century guru trying to impress a bunch of yokels with your incomprehensible genius. Maybe you chose the wrong audience to impress. Just maybe you are not being judged by your peers, but by ignorant fools.

To that extent, I humbly suggest that you are performing to a crowd that does not appreciate you, like a brilliant comic who's sharp repartee goes over the heads of a bar-room crowd.

I can understand how that would upset you and I doubt that was the intent of anyone here, especially me.Like any genius, you seem to struggle to relate. We peasants cannot fix that for you. Sorry.

A bit like that job interview, you need to decide your goal and your best way of reaching that goal. Just a hint of attitude adjustment might have been all it took to succeed, there and here. You did get some engagement here, but I fear you dismissed it..

I still sincerely wish you all the best, but I suggest that your worst enemy is not me, or any other member here, but closer to home. You need to relate to your audience, Work the crowd, maybe meet them on their pathetic level.



This information really helped me understand & relate better to your perspective. Please provided more information like this in the future, being able to understand your thought process is so beneficial for finding solutions. I think the best way to get people to lay off the harrassment is to just let everyone understand my life. Nobody on the forum will want want to make fun of me once they know my life story.

P.S. Solid advice btw.
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December 10th, 2020 at 5:52:45 PM permalink
So here is why my life is terrible & that I'm nothing like MDawg!!! Warning you might not see me the same after this, it's nothing bad it's just a lot of sad stuff that you're going to have a hard time not letting it affect how you interact with me.



Going to need some time to write up the rest but this video will tell you a lot of it.

https://youtu.be/yaWCaBoPe2Y

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December 10th, 2020 at 5:58:33 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

So here is why my life is terrible & that I'm nothing like MDawg!!! Warning you might not see me the same after this, it's nothing bad it's just a lot of sad stuff that you're going to have a hard time not letting it affect how you interact with me.



Going to need some time to write up the rest but this video will tell you a lot of it.

https://youtu.be/yaWCaBoPe2Y

MDawg is nothing like MDawg either.
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December 10th, 2020 at 6:36:35 PM permalink
Here is more dirt on me, go ahead and make fun guys. I've got a handgun & 2 bullets only for the sole purpose of shooting myself. If an intruder comes inside my mom's place, I don't go for the gun cause I don't know how to use it. I go for 1 of my swords.



1. I'm Asexual. I almost have no sex drive. I try and masturbate to keep everything working but I've gotten so caught up with work that sometimes I go longer than a month.

2. My only brother & stepfather think I'm crazy & I haven't spoken to my brother in over a year even tho I call him. He didn't even invite me to his wedding.

3. My mother has early-onset dementia & has episodes where she lashes out or treats me like how I was when I was 18 & left the house. My brother also has stopped talking to our mom.

4. I'm a domestic violence victim who went through several years of therapy. It's still hard to talk about it today.

5. I called one of my long time friends wanting to just come over and spend the day with him. I've been homeless 8 years of my life and I was living in Lodi & took the bus to Stockton to see my friend & he said he needed more time so I left my bags and went to Starbucks, an hour goes by and he is telling me I need to get my stuff and leave. I try and talk to him but he won't open the door. I beg him to please give me a ride back to Lodi. I missed the last bus back. He still won't open the door. I start banging and yelling please please please & he comes outside ready to beat my head in with a bat & chases me into the streets.

That night I slept at a park in Stockton and woke up to someone trying to rape me. Apparently they thought I was a woman because of my hair and when I woke up he punched me in the face & tried to steal my longboard. I grabbed .y longboard and broke it free from his grip & thought about murdering the piece of shit for the protection of another innocent. But instead, I never touched him & thought it was better I just call the police. They took him away but because I was homeless they had no way of contacting me. So apparently he got out a week later just days before I was notified of anything. I don't know want happened to this 40's Mexican with a Raider's jacket but I bet we went back to do it again. But I yelled that the DA for letting this happen.

6. I could let all this and more go if I could just get my beautiful boy back. There's no reason he shouldn't be in my life.

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December 10th, 2020 at 6:48:23 PM permalink
You guys still think I think I'm the shit??? You guys make me sick to my stomach, literally!



Here is the psychological evaluation that I got for San Joaquin court, it was good enough for them but not good enough to convince my brother or stepdad

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December 10th, 2020 at 6:50:23 PM permalink
If anyone else wants more dirt please raise their hands, I'm sure I can still think of some more!
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December 10th, 2020 at 6:59:13 PM permalink
I haven’t watched any of the videos but still feel compelled to make the strangest apology I’ve ever made, since I feel like my post sent us down this dark and twisty rabbit hole: I’m sorry you called me a noob.
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December 10th, 2020 at 7:00:42 PM permalink
Can you see why my life work is so important to me? Because without I have nothing to show for all this misery, lost time, & sacrifices I've made. I'm not going out Friday night & having fun. Every day of mine is filled with work to try and get me out of this hell hole life. I honestly think I haven't ended it just because I want to publish my work, I'm not joking. I don't want money or fame. The only reason why I would want money or fame in the industry is that it should help me get my games out into the world. But after my research and games are published in check-in out of this hell hole existence, I don't like hurting day in day out with no relief.
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December 10th, 2020 at 11:35:20 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

I think the best way to get people to lay off the harrassment is to just let everyone understand my life. Nobody on the forum will want want to make fun of me once they know my life story.



If you were to put all kinds of filters on a person, they will experience the world differently. If the filters are strong enough, it can make it really difficult to compare their experience to other people even though they are both out in the same world.

It's quite normal to act on the world as it appears to you, but that's really problematic if your processing mechanism is altered or even damaged in some way,

Anyway, that's kind of why I suspect you have difficulty getting people to relate to you better. If you've had problems relating well to other people your whole life, I suspect your experiences aren't processing the same way as most people.

Even If you can't fix or remove the filters, you still may be able figure out how to manage your world from within the distortion.

A man who can't realize his leg is broken, is going to move rather strangely. But once he realizes what the problem is, he can adjust accordingly and at least function better.
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December 10th, 2020 at 11:50:15 PM permalink
Greetings USpapergames, Perhaps you may find some useful tools here... I have.
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December 11th, 2020 at 6:06:59 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

You guys still think I think I'm the shit??? You guys make me sick to my stomach, literally!



Here is the psychological evaluation that I got for San Joaquin court, it was good enough for them but not good enough to convince my brother or stepdad



I've never done this before, but I removed the link to that document because I feel you're doxxing yourself. If you feel strongly that you want to post it, at least allow me to redact your name from it, which I'm happy to do.

Please read the PM I sent to you. I'd like to help.
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December 19th, 2020 at 10:33:25 PM permalink
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No, I was not thinking about the internal partitions; I was talking about where, early in the first video, you say that there are 6 ways to partition 5 cards among 4 suits - you say that there is a formula of some sort, but you don't explain what it is. (This is right after you say that you count the number of ways to partition 5 cards among 13 ranks "normally" since 13 >= 5, but you need a special method for the suits since 4 <= 5.) It's at about the 18:00 point in the video.



Btw I believe the correct terminology to call it would be with A) how many ways a whole number can partition into another whole number or B) The range of the JJ's Matrix ;)
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December 19th, 2020 at 10:49:45 PM permalink
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in other words it's not being nominated because you haven't published it and when I suggested an appropriate Journal you told me that it was mostly in your head and not written down. Until you write it down formally and publish it, all you have are words in your head. I've got lots of words in my head too, fortunately I've managed to write a few down over the years.

Here's the deal, publish anything in a major mathematical Journal, anything at all, and then I'll have a look at your problem. Prove that you have at least a modicum of skill by publishing something in a major journal. If you want me to be interested in your work, give me some respect by first proving yourself worthy of my attention.

Publishing in a major journal is very difficult, I have published in some of the best out there, often it's taken up to two years from submission to print. But that's what it takes, and you've got to be willing to do that. This is the last good advice I'm going to give you. Publish or perish.



Hi, it's me again. I could really use your help. You seem to be the most knowledgeable person on the forum about publishing mathematics. No offense to thatDonguy but I just don't think he has the skills to publish my work. Can you please help me? I'll give you full publishing credit & can send you 6 hours of video footage of me explaining my research.
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December 20th, 2020 at 7:06:21 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Hi, it's me again. I could really use your help. You seem to be the most knowledgeable person on the forum about publishing mathematics. No offense to thatDonguy but I just don't think he has the skills to publish my work. Can you please help me? I'll give you full publishing credit & can send you 6 hours of video footage of me explaining my research.



I have time.... ananlysis of your post....

The first thing that stands out to me is that when trying to compliment teliot, you did so while insulting another forum member. If I was teliot I'd be turned off immediately.

Try this...

"teliot, I've really appreciated your comments on my slot machine so far. I think you have skills that I just don't have in the publishing arena. Is there any way you could help me get my work published? At present I really don't have much money, but maybe we could work something out?"

I have been asked for help more times than I can count on this forum. Always politely. No one has ever said... "SOOPOO, you are so much smarter than USpapergames on the subject of surgery, can you help me..."

Anyway.... good luck on getting your work published; for all I know help has been arranged via a PM! And good luck on getting a McArthur grant. My son has had his research funded by one grant or another for the past decade.
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December 20th, 2020 at 9:15:59 AM permalink
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I have time.... ananlysis of your post....

The first thing that stands out to me is that when trying to compliment teliot, you did so while insulting another forum member. If I was teliot I'd be turned off immediately.

Try this...

"teliot, I've really appreciated your comments on my slot machine so far. I think you have skills that I just don't have in the publishing arena. Is there any way you could help me get my work published? At present I really don't have much money, but maybe we could work something out?"

I have been asked for help more times than I can count on this forum. Always politely. No one has ever said... "SOOPOO, you are so much smarter than USpapergames on the subject of surgery, can you help me..."

Anyway.... good luck on getting your work published; for all I know help has been arranged via a PM! And good luck on getting a McArthur grant. My son has had his research funded by one grant or another for the past decade.



Sir, I seriously never insulted thatDonguy & I encourage that you read the comment carefully. If saying that you don't believe someone is capable of help you is an insult then by all means I've insulted myself for lacking the skills to publish my work. I don't think anyone would ever take offense to not being able to publish cutting edge research, I even said "no offense" just to make it clear that nobody should ever be taking offense to not having the skills to publish someone else research!!!

Now that being said, let me tell you why your revised comment doesn't work and why I choose to explain why I believe thatDonguy might not be able to help me!!! 1st teliot already knows that I offered the job to thatDonguy!!! So the most obvious question he is going to ask is whether or not thatDonguy is still working on the project! I think I own an explanation to the guy and I haven't heard back from thatDonguy in almost 2 weeks. Does this all make sense why I choose these words to describe the situation?

2nd, teliot can not accept private messages! I 1st tried to message him about this before ever commenting & found out he doesn't accept PMs! Lastly, I find your method of manipulating my words to make them appear as if they were insulted incredibly rude. I never said anything about anyone being smarter than anyone else! I have no clue of teliot can help me, I just remember he said he has published over 20 times which got me excited but for all I know thatDonguy has more advanced combinatorics skills than teliot. I am just asking for help, not implying anything about anyone skill set. This is the problem with being know for your intellect, people often assume your commenting on other peoples intelligence :(
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December 20th, 2020 at 1:05:07 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I have time.... ananlysis of your post....

The first thing that stands out to me is that when trying to compliment teliot, you did so while insulting another forum member. If I was teliot I'd be turned off immediately.



No offense was taken by me. My degree is in computer science and not mathematics (nor statistics) for a reason. Okay, I almost got a second bachelor's degree in applied mathematics, but that's another story.
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December 20th, 2020 at 2:13:38 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

No offense was taken by me. My degree is in computer science and not mathematics (nor statistics) for a reason. Okay, I almost got a second bachelor's degree in applied mathematics, but that's another story.



I think you're incredibly talented in mathematics for not having a degree in the field ;)
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December 20th, 2020 at 10:44:38 PM permalink
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You failed to read step 4 again. 😂



It's funny because your right & I didn't read your step 4 because I thought you were talking about the forum rules lol. Yes, you are correct and it is an extremely difficult process of solving each number of permutations within permutations. But when I say it's not brute force possible, I am mainly talking about hardware capability. You need to start using a portion of Google's supercomputer to get just the 5 card probabilities from that method. You wouldn't say Go is brute force possible even though it technically is if you had a Jupiter Brain.
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December 21st, 2020 at 8:05:31 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

But when I say it's not brute force possible, I am mainly talking about hardware capability. You need to start using a portion of Google's supercomputer to get just the 5 card probabilities from that method. You wouldn't say Go is brute force possible even though it technically is if you had a Jupiter Brain.



Go was attacked by MCTS AI very successfully. It was not brute force. I have written MCTS for some games base on the work by Markus Enzenberger, the German computer scientist.

I still fail to understand what is hard about 5-card probabilities. As far as I can tell. nobody else here agrees with you that classifying hands and determining dominance is a difficult problem. I wish you or someone else would try to explain what exactly is the hard problem. You simply asserting grandiose claims is not very compelling.
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December 21st, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM permalink
USpaper... Apology if you already posted this stuff.... but what are your 'official qualifications'....? What school did you graduate from with what degree? What jobs have you had in the field we are discussing? What successes have you had already? Do you have a 'regular' job now? (MANY of the game designers on this forum have 'real' jobs first, and the game design is a secondary interest...)

Not that the lack of any degree/job/success means you cannot succeed in the future!
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December 21st, 2020 at 10:11:12 AM permalink
Quote: Mental

Go was attacked by MCTS AI very successfully. It was not brute force. I have written MCTS for some games base on the work by Markus Enzenberger, the German computer scientist.

I still fail to understand what is hard about 5-card probabilities. As far as I can tell. nobody else here agrees with you that classifying hands and determining dominance is a difficult problem. I wish you or someone else would try to explain what exactly is the hard problem. You simply asserting grandiose claims is not very compelling.



The problem with my explanation is that it won't solve your understanding since my perspective is going to be from a mathematical one since I'm not a computer programmer :/

I'll I can say is to believe me when I tell you that I've worked with some of the best programmers on this very task and even with my advanced algorithm for evaluating the hand rankings, Jim's super computer still could not do the 6 card outcome combinations.

Unfortunately, I can't think of a better way to discover the problems difficultly without actually attempting to solve it :/ Here is my recommendation, try solving the 5 card probabilities (remember that you don't have the hand ranking order & the 4 card ranking order is not the same as the 5 card ranking order). But here is the catch, instead of going from least likely to most likely, try going the other way around since you will definitely run into issues going from the bottom up ;)
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December 21st, 2020 at 10:22:09 AM permalink
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USpaper... Apology if you already posted this stuff.... but what are your 'official qualifications'....? What school did you graduate from with what degree? What jobs have you had in the field we are discussing? What successes have you had already? Do you have a 'regular' job now? (MANY of the game designers on this forum have 'real' jobs first, and the game design is a secondary interest...)

Not that the lack of any degree/job/success means you cannot succeed in the future!



I am going to say something that might come off very offensive but I 100% believe in what I am saying. If I were to have come from a game design job I would not be 1/10th the game designer I am today! The problem with jobs is that you end up getting little job experience related to game design unless you get a job as the lead game designer. I'm sorry but experience is far more valuable than money so settling for an entry-level game design job is just going to set your game design skills back 10 years until you actually start learning how to implement successful game design skills. From the very beginning, I refused to ever work as an entry-level game designer because I know I wouldn't be learning the important skills that a lead game designer needs to know. Not only that but a company literally stiffens your learning ability since they want to shape your ideas to their corporate interests. The fact that I hadn't been designing slot machines for companies is the very reason why I realized nobody was focused on improving the actual game!!! I never would have realized that if I was conditioned from being a slot game designer, because you guys seriously have tunnel vision & I am so grateful I chose to go my own way because I believed from the very beginning that I chose to enter the casino game industry that the industry was weak and that I could put the time into understanding the casino industry better than the leading casino game designers of today & tomorrow.
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December 21st, 2020 at 12:06:34 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

The problem with my explanation is that it won't solve your understanding since my perspective is going to be from a mathematical one since I'm not a computer programmer :/

I'll I can say is to believe me when I tell you that I've worked with some of the best programmers on this very task and even with my advanced algorithm for evaluating the hand rankings, Jim's super computer still could not do the 6 card outcome combinations.

Unfortunately, I can't think of a better way to discover the problems difficultly without actually attempting to solve it :/ Here is my recommendation, try solving the 5 card probabilities (remember that you don't have the hand ranking order & the 4 card ranking order is not the same as the 5 card ranking order). But here is the catch, instead of going from least likely to most likely, try going the other way around since you will definitely run into issues going from the bottom up ;)



Maybe your programmers are not as good as you think?

I can solve your bottom-up challenge without doing any programming. The most common 6-card hand is Quark. I define a Quark as a hand of any six cards. Since every 6-card hand is Quark, no other hand is more common unless the exact definition of that other hand is redundant with the definition of Quark. This means the Quark is the highest ranked hand. The Quark dominates every other possible hand. The probability of Quark is 100%. The probability of any other 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6-card hand is zero. All other hands with a definition more specific than the Quark have equal rank.

QED.
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December 21st, 2020 at 12:34:29 PM permalink
Quote: Mental

Maybe your programmers are not as good as you think?

I can solve your bottom-up challenge without doing any programming. The most common 6-card hand is Quark. I define a Quark as a hand of any six cards. Since every 6-card hand is Quark, no other hand is more common unless the exact definition of that other hand is redundant with the definition of Quark. This means the Quark is the highest ranked hand. The Quark dominates every other possible hand. The probability of Quark is 100%. The probability of any other 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6-card hand is zero. All other hands with a definition more specific than the Quark have equal rank.

QED.



🤣 very funny. We are just going to talk about the royal deck's hand rankings for now but I do like the idea of having a hand ranking for any combination of 6 cards ;)
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