Cooperation game
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Now you're thinking.Quote: GWAEI want mine in a money order ;-)
I'll go one step further and ask that it's a Chase money order and he pays the fee.
Make it out to AxelWolfffffffrgggggggggkjfszy66t4333333333333333333333333333333333333lbdxA3txhgddtyhkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk5ffdbnn vcdddddrr8xqgbbbkkl.................................
Quote: mrsuit31deadline is mañana...
How did you make this symbol: ñ?
Quote: WizardOnly those who go high are going to get them.
That's distressing; if this game is a microcosm of life., It means that only those who are willing to screw over their fellow man get the hookers and blow.
Come to think of it, that's probably why all I get are porn and cheap beer.
Quote: WizardHow did you make this symbol: ñ?
Hold alt then type 0241 or 164 I believe is one way to do it. If you hold down the ñ it gives you thechoice on a phone.
Quote: WizardHow did you make this symbol: ñ?
My phone autopopulates it when I type mañana. Unfortunately I can't help on the computer... A quick Google search says hold the option key when typing the N, but I honestly don't know.
Quote: WizardHow did you make this symbol: ñ?
Just press "~" then "n" (do not hold)
also works with "a" and "o" ãõ
Dont know where you find it on an english keyboard tho..
Edit: for me its "alt gr" + upper button beside enter.
Quote: TorghattenJust press "~" then "n" (do not hold)
~n
It didn't work.
Yay! Learn new phone tricks every day.
Quote: GWAEJust hold down the n and it should appear
~nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Still didn't work.
Worked ñ.Quote: GWAEJust hold down the n and it should appear
Quote: GWAEHold alt then type 0241 or 164 I believe is one way to do it. If you hold down the ñ it gives you thechoice on a phone.
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Alt-0241 caused me to undo that last few actions I took. Alt-164 made an í symbol.
You don't know how many times this was discussed in the Spanish Word of the Day Thread and I still don't have an easy way to make non-English Spanish letters.
100 Million Dollar Idea: Create a keyboard with both the English and Spanish letters. If you need more keys, get rid of the useless F keys. Please just send me 0.1% of all the millions you make. Every bilingual person in English and Spanish will buy one.
Today would be Tuesday. I know, I just checked.
Yesterday was was not Tuesday, and tomorrow isn't Thursday.
Tomorrow will be Wednesday, and there is an 0900 cutoff on picks for round #8.
Should you suspect there is some possibility that you will not wake up tomorrow morning, can you do us all a favor and get in your PM'd picks tonight, picks for $2.
$1 picks are not being allowed. $2 pick or some people will call you bad names ;-)
Quote: Wizardí
Alt-0241 caused me to undo that last few actions I took. Alt-164 made an í symbol.
You don't know how many times this was discussed in the Spanish Word of the Day Thread and I still don't have an easy way to make non-English Spanish letters.
100 Million Dollar Idea: Create a keyboard with both the English and Spanish letters. If you need more keys, get rid of the useless F keys. Please just send me 0.1% of all the millions you make. Every bilingual person in English and Spanish will buy one.
BETTER idea--eliminate the stupid tilde from the Spanish language altogether. As far as I'm aware, there is no case in the Spanish language where the tilde is actually needed to distinguish one word from another.
If I'm wrong, please enlighten me; if I'm right, I only want 0.02% of the resultant revenue.
Quote: JoeshlabotnikBETTER idea--eliminate the stupid tilde from the Spanish language altogether. As far as I'm aware, there is no case in the Spanish language where the tilde is actually needed to distinguish one word from another.
If I'm wrong, please enlighten me; if I'm right, I only want 0.02% of the resultant revenue.
In Spanish, the "ñ" and "n" are two separate letters.
Quote: JoeshlabotnikBETTER idea--eliminate the stupid tilde from the Spanish language altogether. As far as I'm aware, there is no case in the Spanish language where the tilde is actually needed to distinguish one word from another.
Where is Paco when you need him?
Quote: WizardHow did you make this symbol: ñ?
ASCII programming primer 101
As others have said, on many phones if you hold down the key, you will get multiple choices of variations.
On a PC, you can get any of the characters in the ASCII character set.
http://www.asciitable.com/
Look up the character you want, that is shown in RED , and use the 3 digit code listed before it.
The trick is to hold down the ALT key, and then using the NUMBER PAD numbers (the numbers at the top of the keyboard WILL NOT work).
So, for the ñ , I see code 164.
On my Thinkpad, I first have to access the NUMBER PAD, by hitting Function + NumLk. This turns the keys 7,8,9,U,I,O,J,K,L,M into the NUMBER PAD keys.
I then hold down ALT while I hit J O I, and then let go of the ALT key (J is 1, O is 6, and I is 4)
You will also see pipe and double pipe symbols, along with fractions, etc. Have a ball
½ ¼ ¿
If you wanted to type 'un chingo de texto', I expect there are Spanish keyboard drivers you could load on a PC, although I have never looked into that.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLI suspect a coordinated distraction.
Don't blame for the tangent. Well, maybe you can, but its not for the reason you think. I tried to split off all the ñ posts but you guys have done an awful job formatting your cooperation tables and it screws up the interface to split a thread.
BTW, to make a ñ, do ALT164. However, you can't do it here or it will boot you right out of the post you're writing. I suggest doing it in some other application like Notepad and copy and paste it over.
p.s Still looking for two more picks.
Quote: WizardDon't blame for the tangent. Well, maybe you can, but its not for the reason you think. I tried to split off all the ñ posts but you guys have done an awful job formatting your cooperation tables and it screws up the interface to split a thread.
BTW, to make a ñ, do ALT164. However, you can't do it here or it will boot you right out of the post you're writing. I suggest doing it in some other application like Notepad and copy and paste it over.
p.s Still looking for two more picks.
May be PC dependent. I just did it in the edit window here, in my post above.
Are they important picks? Perhaps someone can figure out who's not logged in the last few days or whatever and who hasn't declared and send them a PM.Quote: Wizard
p.s Still looking for two more picks.
Quote: IbeatyouracesIn Spanish, the "ñ" and "n" are two separate letters.
Yes, of course, but are there any pairs of Spanish words where the only difference is that one uses the regular n and the other uses the tilde-n? If not, then the tilde is superfluous.
Well, using that logic, we should eliminate either the Q or Z from the English language!Quote: JoeshlabotnikYes, of course, but are there any pairs of Spanish words where the only difference is that one uses the regular n and the other uses the tilde-n? If not, then the tilde is superfluous.
Hey now!Quote: WizardofnothingThe q and z are actually used for words - what do you mean?
Why you flatten my feathers?
You should go find your own feathers ;-)
Quote: JoeshlabotnikYes, of course, but are there any pairs of Spanish words where the only difference is that one uses the regular n and the other uses the tilde-n? If not, then the tilde is superfluous.
Not exactly the same but caro and carro if you don't use the ~ you wouldn't know which word you were saying.
We could eliminate the letter c in English and use k for hard c and s for soft c.
Quote: HunterhillWe could eliminate the letter c in English and use k for hard c and s for soft c.
And which would you use for the word "cite"? (without creating confusion)
Quote: DocAnd which would you use for the word "cite"? (without creating confusion)
Neither. In those situations use "xi"... hehe
btw how'd the Anglification of Chinese get so convoluted?
| Pick | Count | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| $2 | 24 | 63.2% |
| $10 | 14 | 36.8% |
| Total | 38 | 100.0% |
Congratulations, group! I must admit I'm impressed at how much as a group you've taken from me -- $517. There is still a lot of inequity in how much each member won. Hopefully that will get smoothed out in the pool but I have nothing to do with that. I'll post more analysis later.
For now, here are some suggestions on collecting/transferring/donating the money:
1. Paypal to anybody you choose.
2. WizPay to another member.
3. Donation to Three Square, a food bank here in Vegas.
Thanks for playing everybody. Again, well done!
I knew with EVERYONE saying "$10" that half of you must have been just lying to make the others bid lower. There's no way we were close to those numbers with the amount of people that said they were bidding $10 =P... Cheeky bastards. I thought for sure we lost the round!Quote: WizardI just got the 38th and final pick so will post the results for round 8 early.
Pick Count Percent $2 24 63.2% $10 14 36.8% Total 38 100.0%
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So now comes the question of who's going in on the Parlay for hookers and blow... or maybe just a fun WOV meetup?
The other hard questions is: Does anyone even know how much they actually "individually" won in order to parlay/etc? Wiz, are you going to message people their finally amounts? Is WizPay just a way to say let my winnings go to this other forums person?
Quote: WizardofnothingThe q and z are actually used for words - what do you mean?
There aren't any pairs of English words where the only difference is that one uses a "Q" and the other uses a "Z." "Q" (or "Z") is superfluous. One can replace the other in all cases and not create an ambiguity.Quote: Joeshlabotnikare there any pairs of Spanish words where the only difference is that one uses the regular n and the other uses the tilde-n? If not, then the tilde is superfluous.
I'm not advocating this, I'm only suggesting that it is a logical equivalence of the previous statement.
By the way, Go Team!! Congrats on the Round 8 win!
I thought the same too, Romes, but the latest posted list shows exactly 14 High votes.Quote: RomesThere's no way we were close to those numbers with the amount of people that said they were bidding $10 =P... Cheeky bastards. I thought for sure we lost the round!
I'm all for the parlay! I voted low each round, so I'll contribute my $8. Don't know if I would be able to make it out to Vegas for a H&B party, but if/when we win the parlay, we can discuss what to do with the ca$h!Quote:So now comes the question of who's going in on the Parlay for hookers and blow... or maybe just a fun WOV meetup?
The other hard questions is: Does anyone even know how much they actually "individually" won in order to parlay/etc? Wiz, are you going to message people their finally amounts? Is WizPay just a way to say let my winnings go to this other forums person?
BTW, the parlay/pool should really have its own thread. I'll leave that one up to you, Romes.
Quote: DocI think it would be interesting if the players did this: After the game is finished, if you are willing to announce honestly in the forum what your pick was for each round, then do it. We can add up those picks, compare them to the announced results, and (assuming that folks were really honest after the game was over) determine the combined picks for those who didn't want to share personally-identified info. As indicated before, I am quite prepared to announce all of my (variable) picks and the (consistent) method I used to select them.
So now that the game appears to be completed, I will make good on that offer. My pick for round #1 was completely arbitrary at a high $2. With the PM of that pick, I included for the Wizard the strategy that I would follow:
Quote: Doc(a) If the previous round paid out, then bid $1.
(b) If the previous round did not pay out, then bid $2.
This "strategy" attempts to go against the flow and is based on the likely-completely-fallacious assumption that after a payout, players will have a greater tendency to try to exploit a "winning trend" by submitting a $2 bid (and my $1 bid will help to keep things on a winning track); while after a failure, players may tend to be more cautious -- perhaps overly so -- and offer a $1 bid (giving me a better opportunity for a successful $2 bid.) Silliness indeed.
Of course, that was when $1 and $2 were the low and high limits, so just adapt that strategy for whatever limits were really applied for each round. Following that strategy:
| Round | Pick | Result |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | $2 (high) | Payout |
| 2 | $1 (low) | Payout |
| 3 | $1 (low) | Failure |
| 4 | $3 (high) | Payout |
| 5 | $1 (low) | Payout |
| 6 | $1 (low) | Payout |
| 7 | $1 (low) | Payout |
| 8 | $2 (low) | Payout |
Thus, based on this "strategy," I won four $1 picks, two $2 picks, and one $3 pick (total $11), while picking the low $1 on the only round that failed.
As a "complication" to this strategy, I was approached by another member who suggested that we form a two-party team, pick the opposite way from each other, alternating high and low picks each, so that together we would essentially not influence whether the round was a success or a failure. Then we could split our mini-team's winnings at the end.
At that point, I revealed my "strategy" to that member, and we agreed that I would continue to follow it, with the other member picking the opposite way, followed by a split at the end. We continued as a two-member team from round #3 to the end. Because of the high percentage of successful rounds, I tended (strongly) to pick "low." Now we will see whether the higher winnings by my partner are shared in the end. ;-)
Either way, I think it was a fun game that generated more discussion on this forum than anything in quite a while.
I bid low every round but this last round.... That means I won $1 six times and $10 this round for $16 total... Once all is figured out, I am happy to transfer the full amount to our parlay pool with the expectation that all winning from the team wager being split evenly among everyone. I told you I would get us a few extra dollars at one point ;)
I'm all for doing it, if we can get it all pooled up in one sum. I'll of course give full reporting/receipts/etc... One thing though, I'm not in Vegas and can't easily sports bet around here unless it's online.Quote: mrsuit31I really bid high. Good work fellas. I will be putting my entire amount into the pool. Romes are you the ring leader who will handle all of the money and place the bet, whatever that may be?
Though, I will be in Vegas around the end of the month... So if it takes us that long to get everything pooled and then decide what to bet on, then I'll be glad to handle it. If this is the case, then I'll probably start a new thread.
I bid low every single round, with one exception that I apparently MISSED a round?!?! I posted in the thread for every single round, but apparently I failed to send a PM to Mike for like round 5 I think it was =(. Well, it would have been $1 more to the cause... Anyways, I'm not sure what that totals up to.
Quote: RomesThe other hard questions is: Does anyone even know how much they actually "individually" won in order to parlay/etc? Wiz, are you going to message people their finally amounts? Is WizPay just a way to say let my winnings go to this other forums person?
I know exactly how much is due to everybody. You can just ask me.
WizPay is just transferring your money, or any part of it, to another member. For example, Steve might PM me saying, "Please give $25 of my money to Tim." Then I'll PM Tim that Steve gave him $25. Just a convenience I'm offering since there was so much talk of pooling. You may also donate money directly to me, which I would appreciate as a tip for hosting the game.
I will be present at the WoV events on 25th and 28th if you would like cold hard cash.
If that doesn't get off the ground, I am asking Mike to recycle my whopping $6 towards another future game.
I was not a part of rounds 1 and 2, and voted low rounds 3 thru 8. One round (round 4?) was a loser, so I ended up with
1,0,1,1,1,2 = $6
Quote: WizardofnothingWhat was the largest amount one by any single member
Actually, can you list all of the total amounts won by every player, no other detail, just the total amount?
This was after our one failure.Quote: DJTeddyBearI started out going for the best EV for the group. I bid $1 multiple times. Not any more. From here on, I will be bidding the max offered.
Here's what I actually bid: I went low twice, then high on the pivotal fail round. I then posted the above and did bid high each time.
In my first bid PM, I told Mike that I planned on being a relatively quiet, rogue player.
It was fun.
Okay, how much did every single player make? =)... From that list I can start a thread and get a list of all of those interested in the parlay(s).Quote: WizardI know exactly how much is due to everybody. You can just ask me.
A perfect solution to bulking our money together to make placing the parlay/etc much easier on all of us.Quote: WizardWizPay is just transferring your money, or any part of it, to another member. For example, Steve might PM me saying, "Please give $25 of my money to Tim." Then I'll PM Tim that Steve gave him $25. Just a convenience I'm offering since there was so much talk of pooling.
Ha, I'm not even in Vegas and still have a local toke whoring me =)... To be honest though I was already going to ask everyone else if it was okay for us to give you an equal slice of the pie in the parlay(s). This way you have action and EV for helping put this together!Quote: WizardYou may also donate money directly to me, which I would appreciate as a tip for hosting the game.
I'll be in town shortly after that =P. Perhaps if we do decided to do the parlay/picks then (after the 28th) we could do it together as a buddy system of placing the bets for everyone so there's also a witness?Quote: WizardI will be present at the WoV events on 25th and 28th if you would like cold hard cash.
Quote: Romes... To be honest though I was already going to ask everyone else if it was okay for us to give you an equal slice of the pie in the parlay(s). This way you have action and EV for helping put this together!
That is one hell of an idea Romes. I second that motion.
