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Quote: WizardofnothingId prefer nothing relating to my bidding or likeness be revealed now or after the game is played - as I thought was the plan before I signed onto this game
That's fine. I was never going to reveal names but I guess I won't reveal even anonymous picks, except maybe in an aggregate form.
So, here are the round 7 results:
Pick | Count | Percent |
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$1 | 20 | 60.6% |
$2 | 13 | 39.4% |
Total | 33 | 100.0% |
I must say, well done, group! The percentage of high picks went up from 32.4% in round 6, but I see that as a good thing, in the interests of getting close to 50% high picks without getting too dangerously close, or going over.
As a group, I think you've done well. However, individually, there is a lot of inequity. Many of you have gone either low or high every single time. In fact, the table is still the same as the last time I posted it, I believe:
All low: 12
Mix: 22
All high: 4
In the mixed group there are quite a few who are usually high, especially when the gap between high and low is big.
So, here we are, at the last round, number 8. The choices will be $2 or $10. Picks will be due at 9 AM Vegas time on Wednesday, Sep. 14. Have at it!
On the other hand, if you are offering to basically just hand out cash for a small amount of cooperation?
Hell, Youuuuu MIGHT be one of the last of the GOOD GUYS ;-)
isn't a guarantee of $6 better than a small chance at only $4 more, or a large chance at NOTHING?Quote: RonCMy pick of $10 is being submitted as soon as I post this...
Commit to sharing with the group for this round to guarantee the $6.
I will wait a few hours more to give people a chance to get their high picks in. Then I will either :
- Pick high if there are any high picks left
- Pick low otherwise
People, please don't be dicks and announce your picks.
People, please refrain from calling other members "dicks"
Quote: Ayecarumbaisn't a guarantee of $6 better than a small chance at only $4 more, or a large chance at NOTHING?
Commit to sharing with the group for this round to guarantee the $6.
I may have already done that, but I will go on the record as saying that I will support some kind of a group bet or parlay OR a donation to charity...whatever the majority of the group participating wants to do.
Of course, I am a lying about other things here according to some members, so can you trust me?
I am not as bad as some would think...I actually helped someone here get a part-time opportunity to make money doing something that person really enjoys doing and I asked nothing in return except some updates (privately) on how it worked out.
Republican/Conservatives aren't all bad...
Quote: Wizard28 picks submitted for round 7 so far. Looking for 10 more.
Also, how do you feel if I post a history of individual picks while not indicating any player names? I'll shuffle the player list and identify every history as just an anonymous player number. The purpose of this game was a study in human behavior and I think it would help answer questions about it if we could see the complete voting trends.
A possible downside is somebody may have claimed a certain voting history that doesn't match any actual one, which would make that person look to not be telling the truth. So just one single objection from an active player and I won't do it.
Feel free to post my bids with my name.
Also, $10 for me this round. I'm offering all of my winnings to the Romes parlay pool at the end as well.
I have the running tally of picks at this point as:
4 - High
0 - Undisclosed
0 - Low
34 - Yet to Pick
[I do not intend to maintain the list/tally for this round; this is to just get it started.]
Quote: WizardThat's fine. I was never going to reveal names but I guess I won't reveal even anonymous picks, except maybe in an aggregate form.
So, here are the round 7 results:
Pick Count Percent $1 20 60.6% $2 13 39.4% Total 33 100.0%
As a group, I think you've done well. :
All low: 12
Mix: 22
All high: 4
In the mixed group there are quite a few who are usually high, especially when the gap between high and low is big.
Yayyyy. Way to go us.
Now..... I reach out to teams, team leaders, team members and aspiring team players.
Mike has ramped up the bid gap. He will surely ramp up the rally call for dissent and try to mess with our heads.
How do you/we want to play this last round. You/we better get our act together before the end of play.
Is there enough traction in any team play?
Is the team's objective to beat Mike?
Is there a popular objective to all bid high and to hell with beating Mike?
What the hell happened with the non-bidders / late bidders? they want their arses kicking!!!
I'll hold back my bid a while.
My inclination is to bid the same as any bid which is declared by AxelWolf. If he bids High, then he has no right to call me a Rat, and I might bid high to punish him.
If Axel declares a low bid, I'm happy to do likewise for the greater good.
I have ZERO interest in bidding high to punish us all, because that would be exactly who such a group would punish.
So far, I've taken account of all declarations and pre-declarations of policy going back to page 60 of this thread.
So... according to Mike only 13 bid High??? and 6 declared that they bid High? We could read something into that!!!
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E&OE. I Hope it helps.
Ok. I won't be a dick and announce my pick.Quote: CanyoneroPeople, please don't be dicks and announce your picks.
Quote: CanyoneroBased on only 33 picks last round, there are only 16 high picks available this round.
I will wait a few hours more to give people a chance to get their high picks in. Then I will either :
- Pick high if there are any high picks left
- Pick low otherwise
People, please don't be dicks and announce your picks.
But didn't you just do just that?
We need to have knowledge of the bids in order to win. If the team wants to track its bids privately in PMs that would be best and I'd hope that any team that knows its a team is already awash with such PMs.
I'm not currently in a team. If I choose to join one, I'll abide by its rules. and collective decisions
No-one invited me yet.
Just as a reminder DON'T bid $1 this round. The low Bid is $2 and the high bid is $10
If you bid $1, then Mike could treat that as a non valid bid which would really hurt all players.
Mike,
I implore you to take any $1 bids and treat them as $2 bids
Bleh... I'm in it for the team... and by the team I mean the hookers and blow... $2 for me. Submitting right after I post this.
I encourage others to pick $2 so we can win this last round.... Think about it... What if we could get the EXACT SAME RESULTS as last round??? 22 * 2 + 13 * 10... we'd be rollin in the money!!! NO NEED for everyone to bet $10!
I will split my winnings between the charity option and one of those who picked low all 8 rounds. (I may give all to the player if i dont like the charity option)
I'd like to change one of the rules on WizPay and that is to tell the recipient who the money is coming from, much like PayPal. Again, it will be allowed to make partial payments. Any objections?
There will also be a charity option -- I'm thinking to Three Square again.
An example is to give everybody a number (1 to N) and using the integer part of the closing Dow Jones index - if your number plus the DJI is divisible by 3 you can bet high else bet low. Just an idea - wish I'd though of it earlier.
Over in camp 'greedy or punish or just plain wupped by Wizard' the high bids are racking up nicely.
Well done Wizard, I think you fooled enough of the people enough of the time.
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E&OE. I Hope it helps.
Also, there are some declarations being made in the cooperation round 8 thread that are not reflected here. If someone could correlate that info now that the round has started, I think it would be very useful. Again, thanks.
Quote: beachbumbabsI bid low. The formatting in this table is beyond my phone. Someone please update it. Thanks.
Happy to oblige.
Note that I'm delighted to bid for my $2, which could benefit the team that I'm not even a part of. I could have said ' I join the team, bid low, and accept my share of the proceeds of the round'. I figure that would have been my optimum play. But I'm more honourable than that.
If anyone is misguided enough to bid high as a punishment tactic, then look who you punished.
If Axel bids high and we still beat Mike, then I'll say it now, well done dude.
$:o)
Thanks again Wizard.
Quote: beachbumbabsAlso, there are some declarations being made in the cooperation round 8 thread that are not reflected here. If someone could correlate that info now that the round has started, I think it would be very useful. Again, thanks.
I believe I have accommodated all those declarations. Please tell me if you see any errors, omissions or changes.
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E&OE. I Hope it helps.
While the Wizard now seems to have announced that he will not be revealing picks or pick patterns, even without names, I think it would be interesting if the players did this: After the game is finished, if you are willing to announce honestly in the forum what your pick was for each round, then do it. We can add up those picks, compare them to the announced results, and (assuming that folks were really honest after the game was over) determine the combined picks for those who didn't want to share personally-identified info. As indicated before, I am quite prepared to announce all of my (variable) picks and the (consistent) method I used to select them.
amending table nowQuote: DocMy Round #8 pick has been submitted following the same strategy as throughout this game. Once again, list my pick as "undisclosed".
Agree. we might all lean something.Quote:I think it would be interesting if the players did this: After the game is finished, if you are willing to announce honestly in the forum what your pick was for each round, then do it.
Quote: WizardLet me say that no matter what, I will not publish anybody's pick histories, even if they request it.
I'd like to change one of the rules on WizPay and that is to tell the recipient who the money is coming from, much like PayPal. Again, it will be allowed to make partial payments. Any objections?
There will also be a charity option -- I'm thinking to Three Square again.
As far as this round goes, it matters not, because we're absolutely, positively going to crash and burn this time. That $10 is just too tempting for some. But what REALLY kills it is, I strongly suspect, that many people can't stand the idea of their getting only $2 while others are getting $10. That really frosts their cupcake.
Of course, since I'm rational, I'd rather I get $2 and everyone else gets $1,000,000, a new Porsche, and daily oral sex for a year than I get $0 and everyone gets nothing as well. What everyone else gets harms me not at all.
Quote: Joeshlabotnik
Of course, since I'm rational, I'd rather I get $2 and everyone else gets $1,000,000, a new Porsche, and daily oral sex for a year than I get $0 and everyone gets nothing as well. What everyone else gets harms me not at all.
So, do I put you down as $2 or would you rather have the $0 that bidding $10 will get you?
Your best strategy, AAUI is to declare your allegiance to a team. Promise and bid $2 and expect a share of the spoils of that team. That share will be something between 0 and a bit more than $2
I will join Romes pool if I am granted an equal share,
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E&OE. I Hope it helps.
Quote: JoeshlabotnikOf course, since I'm rational, I'd rather I get $2 and everyone else gets $1,000,000, a new Porsche, and daily oral sex for a year than I get $0 and everyone gets nothing as well. What everyone else gets harms me not at all.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Personally, sacrificing the $2 would be worth it to me to not feel envious and stupid over the greedy getting $10.
Wiz, is it possible to change bids for those that have already submitted? Can a player change their bid up until the deadline?
Quote: ParadigmWiz, is it possible to change bids for those that have already submitted? Can a player change their bid up until the deadline?
Nobody has asked that before. Here in Vegas, once you walk away from the window you can't take a bet back. I've never heard of anybody going back to a polling station because he changed his mind. No, I think once you make a decision you should stick with it.
Make a move and stick with it
I will submit my bid for $2 now as I think the group is going to need it to succeed. OD, please change my bid from High to Low on the schedule..
Quote: WizardNobody has asked that before. Here in Vegas, once you walk away from the window you can't take a bet back. I've never heard of anybody going back to a polling station because he changed his mind. No, I think once you make a decision you should stick with it.
Make a move and stick with it
Wizard is SOOOO keen to get in these high bidders. Set player against player. Don't fall for it guys.
In Roulette, can't you change your bet while the wheel is spinning?
Anyhow, in that video, I characterised the adult as Mike throwing a hissy fit at the thought of being outsmarted.
You CAN in horse racing. Right up to the start of the race, you can cancel a bet. Isn't this cooperation game something of a pari-mutual event?Quote: WizardHere in Vegas, once you walk away from the window you can't take a bet back.
Your game, your rules. In fact, I agree with it.Quote: WizardNo, I think once you make a decision you should stick with it.
Quote: RomesMike, any chance of throwing a bet in on whether or not the group succeeds? I already bid (as you can confirm) so I couldn't skew the data with my one vote anyways... I don't think the group will succeed this round. Almost everyone who has declared a vote publicly has said they're bidding high. I just don't get why...
You guys can bet among yourselves but I have much more information than you do so it wouldn't be fair for me to bet. I've always felt strongly in a level playing field when making a bet.
But you don't have a problem with like OnceDear, Romes, myself and others suckering say, say Axel, into a side bet right ;-?Quote: WizardYou guys can be among yourselves but I have much more information than you do so it wouldn't be fair for me to bet. I've always felt strongly in a level playing field when making a bet.
LMAO.Quote: TwoFeathersATLBut you don't have a problem with like OnceDear, Romes, myself and others suckering say, say Axel, into a side bet right ;-?
Quote: TwoFeathersATLBut you don't have a problem with like OnceDear, Romes, myself and others suckering say, say Axel, into a side bet right ;-?
Somehow I don't see Axel getting "suckered" into many bets.
Are you willing to bet we can do it :)
I used Axel as one of the most unlikely examples I could think of. I'm scared jhitless of betting against Axel, even when I suspect he's wrong.Quote: BozSomehow I don't see Axel getting "suckered" into many bets.
Are you willing to bet we can do it :)
But then I suffer from some inferiority complex or something that Axel has touched on many times. It's all in the threads, read your asses off ;-)
The 'Team', this or that one, or the 'Players' together, individually, or in 'Groups' can take this game down for a profit. That has never been a secret. The question is still floating around, "Will They"?.
I can help, maybe.
Someone needs to remind me daily of what day it is ;-)
And how to spell 'Wizard', which the mis-spell of got me booted out of these charades in round one.
Apparently Wizrad is 'un-deliverable' no matter how big a hurry you happen to find yourself in ;-)
The Team guy, 2F
high picks still available: 1
as always: be a team player, declare your pick! Otherwise, you will ruin it for all of us!
PM sent to the Wizard.