2016 Election -- Part II
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More to come. I don't doubt it. What's next?
Btw I don't think he's confused like dementia -- but there's something wrong with him. This can't really be a plan. I mean really?
Trump's troops
http://infographics.economist.com/2017/Trump/TrumpGraphic.html
Quote: RogerKintI love how a woman from California organized a march near the coast of Antarctica. Her secondary goal, behind her Trump-hate of course, was to make us all aware of her environmental concerns. If that was the case, wouldn't she stay away from Antarctica so as not to further spoil it? Was her boat a hybrid at least?
For those of you interested in weird conspiracy theories (bobbartop) look into the Antarctic treaty. When's the last time nations agreed on anything for as long as this treaty? You would think some giant multinational oil/mineral companies would want to challenge it to make a boatload of cash down there, but no. The timing of the Antarctic Treaty, Operation Fishbowl and the formation of NASA is quite interesting. I'm sure it's all just a coincidence cause I'm a coincidence theorist.
Yeah, Antarctica is the ultimate Global Warming prize. Melt that sucker so they can get down to the landmass under the center part and drill, baybee.
Raise the sea level with the melt to drown 2 billion poor a-holes off the planet, along with most of the highest priced real estate. See ya, San Fran. Buh bye, NYC. Bon voyage, Boston. A bientot, Monte Carlo.
Meanwhile, buy up all that useless, cheap land in the mountains, aka the new shoreline. Flip it to the survivors. But be sure to hire foreign workers to cheat while building the houses, and screw all the contractors. I'm sure it's a wet dream for somebody.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: RogerKintI love how a woman from California organized a march near the coast of Antarctica. Her secondary goal, behind her Trump-hate of course, was to make us all aware of her environmental concerns. If that was the case, wouldn't she stay away from Antarctica so as not to further spoil it? Was her boat a hybrid at least?
For those of you interested in weird conspiracy theories (bobbartop) look into the Antarctic treaty. When's the last time nations agreed on anything for as long as this treaty? You would think some giant multinational oil/mineral companies would want to challenge it to make a boatload of cash down there, but no. The timing of the Antarctic Treaty, Operation Fishbowl and the formation of NASA is quite interesting. I'm sure it's all just a coincidence cause I'm a coincidence theorist.
Yeah, Antarctica is the ultimate Global Warming prize. Melt that sucker so they can get down to the landmass under the center part and drill, baybee.
Raise the sea level with the melt to drown 2 billion poor a-holes off the planet, along with most of the highest priced real estate. See ya, San Fran. Buh bye, NYC. Bon voyage, Boston. A bientot, Monte Carlo.
Meanwhile, buy up all that useless, cheap land in the mountains, aka the new shoreline. Flip it to the survivors. But be sure to hire foreign workers to cheat while building the houses, and screw all the contractors. I'm sure it's a wet dream for somebody.
The woman who organized the march in Antartica certainly isn't helping. I wonder if she barbecued any penguins to make people aware of the majesty of the Antarctic penguin.
It said, "UNITED AGAINST HATE".
I thought for a moment, "Well, what can I do about that?"
Then I figured, there's only one thing I can do about it. I gave him the finger and drove on.
Quote: rxwineThat sounds really brave.
Well, it was a joke, but you're right, if I was any kind of a man I would have kicked their asses, all 500 of them.
Oh, and there's nothing so brave as a frenzied mob of leftists. The ones with the masks over their faces, throwing rocks at police from the comfort of their pack, they are the bravest.
Lenin called these people "useful idiots". They don't even know what they're protesting, and they certainly don't know how they're being used, or who is using them. I'm so glad I'm a conservative with a clue.
Quote: ams288Huh? You're giving the Trump team waaaaay too much credit.
They know the crowd sizes were accurately reported yesterday. They were tiny compared to previous inaugurations.
Spicer's embarrassing little press conference had one purpose: stroke Donald's bruised ego.
He actually said this:
"That was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period. Both in person and around the globe."
THAT IS A LIE. It's not up for a debate. If the press points out that is a blatant lie and the Trump team gets mad.... too damn bad.
It's why us lefties kept pointing out the crowd size and mocking it yesterday: it was obvious that this is where we'd end up, with the trump team blatantly lying about it.
I am NOT "giving them credit." I thought that it was dumb to make such a big deal about the crowd size beyond pointing out that the photo used to point out the small size of the crowd was not one taken at the time the event was taking place. I don't think being angry was even the right way to handle it. The TV ratings are also inaccurate in a time where we watch so many different ways--many of us watched from the office. either via streaming or broadcast TV. The problem with that number is that I don't know how they count it with accurately.
What I said was that I expected them to attack when they thought they were wronged, not that it would be my strategy or that I thought it was right. The habit of associating ones actual opinion with a comment about what someone else did gets a little out of hand here sometimes. That you associated my words with "giving them credit" is just plain silly given that I said this:
Quote: RonC"Honestly, I am not sure that the truth isn't somewhere in the middle regarding crowd size. I think that some outlets (mostly googled national press stuff) is underestimating today's crowds. For DC, at least, it became easier to have inaccurate info once the Park Service stopped estimating crowd sizes officially (any figures from them are not official, unless something changed very recently).
(edited to use "isn't" instead of "is"--though anyone reading my statement should easily understand my intent)
If I actually was Spicer (and thank God I am not), and I believed what I was saying, I would have offered proof.
I DO think that a member of the press knowingly used an inaccurate photo based on extra screening requirements and other issues slowing the entry of attendees. I thought the crowd was very small until he ceremony was under way; it looked larger by then.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/822931301774790657
I hope the groups sponsoring the march paid for any clean-up efforts after their marches were over. The cost of any march should not be on the shoulders of the tax payers. This has been a problem with large gatherings in DC over the years. I get the symbolism of dumping on Trump; that doesn't mean that I should pay for your march any more than you should pay for mine.
Quote: RonCI hope the groups sponsoring the march paid for any clean-up efforts after their marches were over. The cost of any march should not be on the shoulders of the tax payers. This has been a problem with large gatherings in DC over the years. I get the symbolism of dumping on Trump; that doesn't mean that I should pay for your march any more than you should pay for mine.
I disagree
I used to live in MD and visited DC quite often
The reality is there are protests in DC every single day.
Against the govt, embassies, DC institutions ect
Some large, some small.
Some are very organized
Most are not so organized. Just a call to show up.
regardless, it goes on every single day
In fact its 24/7 in DC regarding protesting
Just go to Lafayette park across the street from the White House
That's where the 24/7 protesters hang out.
Go there at 3am, they will be there awake and protesting.
As long as they are awake, they are not technically camping (looks like camping) and the park service and secret service leave them alone
I've talked to them regarding different issues
Who do you charge? How much? Who exactly is responsible for payment?
Overall would it be unconstitutional?
Quote: terapinedI disagree
I used to live in MD and visited DC quite often
The reality is there are protests in DC every single day.
Against the govt, embassies, DC institutions ect
Some large, some small.
Some are very organized
Most are not so organized. Just a call to show up.
regardless, it goes on every single day
In fact its 24/7 in DC regarding protesting
Just go to Lafayette park across the street from the White House
That's where the 24/7 protesters hang out.
Go there at 3am, they will be there awake and protesting.
As long as they are awake, they are not technically camping (looks like camping) and the park service and secret service leave them alone
I've talked to them regarding different issues
Who do you charge? How much? Who exactly is responsible for payment?
Overall would it be unconstitutional?
So we should just clean up after every protest group? Making them pay for clean-up does not seem to be a violation of their rights; hell, if they just cleaned up after themselves, much of the cost would go away. I get the symbolism of leaving signs in front of Trump's hotel; perhaps the organizers thought about that and have someone cleaning up now that it is over.
They have to get a permit to protest if they are closing roads and stuff in most locales; have them put up a bond to cover clean-up if they don't do it themselves.
ALL groups...not any particular one...
I lived in the Washington area for well over 20 years and I have always felt that people should clean up after themselves. There is no "right" to trash the city. There IS a responsibility of ALL to leave places they visit better than they found them.
I thought we all believed in personal responsibility.
I also don't leave grocery carts anywhere but in the designated locations. They provide the cart; I am responsible for getting it back to them. I loathe the disrespectful asses who "use" the cart to get stuff home and then ditch it. They raise the cost of MY groceries.
Quote: RonC
They have to get a permit to protest if they are closing roads and stuff in most locales; have them put up a bond to cover clean-up if they don't do it themselves.
There is the answer for everyone on both sides. No different than renting a hall. But then you will hear this restricts the rights of some who cant afford the fee.
Or of course we add a new national tax, like a per capita tax to cover this. The type of tax where EVERYONE pays, unlike the Federal Income Tax. But again that is like a flat tax and goes against the "Fair Share" flawed argument many liberals have. You know the one where a higher rate based on income level is not enough and 47% do not pay any FIT. Time to que up "They pay other taxes" argument from the left.
Look no one likes paying taxes, least of all me. But a system where you are PUNISHED for working harder and extra by moving into higher brackets helps no one. I have employees who make $30K a year and hate working OT, not because of the extra work but because it is taxed so much higher. It isn't just the so called rich that are hurt, it's everyday workers including so many union workers.
I do hope Trump comes up with a new tax system but sadly there are too many who already are against it without even knowing the details. If it helps 100 higher income people and 100 million middle income people, the left will still be against it. They will find the 1 case of some single mother with 7 kids who will be hurt by it.
Quote: RonCWho picked up all the signs?
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/822931301774790657
I hope the groups sponsoring the march paid for any clean-up efforts after their marches were over. The cost of any march should not be on the shoulders of the tax payers. This has been a problem with large gatherings in DC over the years. I get the symbolism of dumping on Trump; that doesn't mean that I should pay for your march any more than you should pay for mine.
You just exercised your constitutional right to free speech.
That will be $3.99.
The hypocrisy of these and other comments on here are mind blowing. Some of you are either trolling or have ears full of sand.
Obviously as you can tell from my comments, I really don't like Trump. But at least I have the gull to admit that Hillary was a terrible candidate, that the democrats are just as scummy as any other politicians, and that opinions I disagree with aren't invalid just because I disagree with them.
I'll even go further to say I hope that Trump and the repubs do well and make meaningful changes. I mean who wouldn't want that? We're all in the same country at the end of the day. But to suggest that being critical or concerned in any way is just "butt-hurt liberal tears" is insanity.
Maybe everyone here whining about any opposition should take some advice from one of their Republican heros:
Quote:To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
― Theodore Roosevelt
That doesn't COST you a cent necessarily--just pick up your own shit and put it in the trash or take it home with you. if you want clean up service, pay for it. Carry your sign in and carry it out.
Are we so stupid to think that it is somehow right to leave a mess just because you want to protest?
Again, I get the symbolism of leaving signs at Trump's hotel. Fine. Just make arrangements for some of the folks to stay behind an clean it up after you are done with the photo op or pay someone to do it.
Quote: gamerfreak
Maybe everyone here whining about any opposition should take some advice from one of their Republican heros:
Republican hero from the Progressive Party.
Quote: RonCI get the symbolism of leaving signs in front of Trump's hotel;
The symbolism is that they are uncouth and classless pigs.
There are two ways to respond to this sentiment.Quote: BozLook no one likes paying taxes, least of all me. But a system where you are PUNISHED for working harder and extra by moving into higher brackets helps no one. I have employees who make $30K a year and hate working OT, not because of the extra work but because it is taxed so much higher. It isn't just the so called rich that are hurt, it's everyday workers including so many union workers.
One is that we don't have the uniformly progressive tax system you think we have. Warren Buffet still pays a lower total tax rate than you or I do. It is factually incorrect that there is a monotonic relationship between gross income and total tax rate, because of the wide variety in applicable tax rates to different types of income (especially long-term capital gains).
Two is that if we did have a truly progressive tax system, it's not clear why you would object to it. The wealth gap has occurred precisely because of the first factor I just discussed. A flat income tax percentage -- or worse, a regressive one where higher earners are taxed at a lower overall rate (which is what we actually have) -- serves to accelerate the net difference in wealth over time. It is that wealth gap that causes the working class to feel like they can never catch up, because they can't. As the economy progresses toward a bimodal distribution containing the haves and have-nots, more and more businesses focus their goods and services on the haves, and the have-nots are left out.
Frankly, if you have employees making $30k/year who hate working OT, it's not because they are taxed "so much higher" when they work OT. They aren't. If they think they are, their math is wrong. A $30k/year married-filing-jointly taxpayer is in the 15% federal tax bracket until their family hits $75,300. Even if that $30k/year employee is a single filer, they're still taxed at 15% until $37,650. If you're calculating $30k/year based on 2000 hours at $15/hour, time-and-a-half overtime of $22.50/hour still works out to 340 overtime hours before hitting the next tax bracket. How many of your workers put in 340 hours of overtime?
If your employees perceive that their hard work is going unrewarded, you should be a good boss and educate them out of their ignorance.
But also, if you don't like the current tax system and Donald Trump handed you a blank whiteboard and a four-pack of colored Expo markers (you know the one I'm talking about), what would you sketch out as the ideal tax replacement for the United States?
Quote: gamerfreakYou just exercised your constitutional right to free speech.
That will be $3.99.
The hypocrisy of these and other comments on here are mind blowing. Some of you are either trolling or have ears full of sand.:
Calling people on the right on here "trolls" seems to be the new MO from the left. Keep it coming, I know we can take it and don't even want anyone punished for it. And I know I cleaned my ears today.
So now anyone littering is "Using their right to free speech and protest"? Last I heard littering is a law. An Anti Trump sign is OK to throw on the ground but a bag of McDonald's trash isn't? I wonder if the Indian would cry about this form of littering?
Seems like some liberals only support laws they like but don't want the ones they oppose (Illegal immigration & littering) enforced.
Quote: MathExtremistThere are two ways to respond to this sentiment.
One is that we don't have the uniformly progressive tax system you think we have. Warren Buffet still pays a lower total tax rate than you or I do. It is factually incorrect that there is a monotonic relationship between gross income and total tax rate, because of the wide variety in applicable tax rates to different types of income (especially long-term capital gains).
Two is that if we did have a truly progressive tax system, it's not clear why you would object to it. The wealth gap has occurred precisely because of the first factor I just discussed. A flat income tax percentage -- or worse, a regressive one where higher earners are taxed at a lower overall rate (which is what we actually have) -- serves to accelerate the net difference in wealth over time. It is that wealth gap that causes the working class to feel like they can never catch up, because they can't. As the economy progresses toward a bimodal distribution containing the haves and have-nots, more and more businesses focus their goods and services on the haves, and the have-nots are left out.
Frankly, if you have employees making $30k/year who hate working OT, it's not because they are taxed "so much higher" when they work OT. They aren't. If they think they are, their math is wrong. A $30k/year married-filing-jointly taxpayer is in the 15% federal tax bracket until their family hits $75,300. Even if that $30k/year employee is a single filer, they're still taxed at 15% until $37,650. If you're calculating $30k/year based on 2000 hours at $15/hour, time-and-a-half overtime of $22.50/hour still works out to 340 overtime hours before hitting the next tax bracket. How many of your workers put in 340 hours of overtime?
If your employees perceive that their hard work is going unrewarded, you should be a good boss and educate them out of their ignorance.
But also, if you don't like the current tax system and Donald Trump handed you a blank whiteboard and a four-pack of colored Expo markers (you know the one I'm talking about), what would you sketch out as the ideal tax replacement for the United States?
You are forgetting how weekly tax is calculated. I figured this would come up and I thank you for putting it out there. They are taxed weekly based on that weeks potential income level on an annual basis, thus putting them in the 28% bracket for the week. Yes, they will end up with a higher refund and get most of the money back but most don't see it that way. They only see that they are not getting the extra 50% on their check. It's not ignorance, it the reality of how they see it.
As for education, I offer to do and actually do complete some of their income tax returns. I have a sign up right now about it because I released W-2's this week and sadly see year after year many of them go to HR Block and Liberty Tax to fill out simple 1040EZ's and 1040's when they have basic returns. But the lore of a "Rapid Refund" at 300% interest pulls some in.
Sometimes the reality to the real world worker is above common sense. And if you knew me, you would know the ways I go about trying to educate them. I have went to car dealerships with some and saved them thousands of dollars with just basic negotiating. They only see the thought of having a new (or new to them) car and fall right into the dealerships trap. I have many other examples but I would never call it ignorance, regardless of the context, only the world as they see it.
Quote: bobbartopRepublican hero from the Progressive Party.
He formed the progressive party after he was in office, and lost the nomination to another Republican.
Quote: RonCThe right to free speech--an absolutely unquestionable and undeniable right--does not come with the right to leave your trash all over the place. I don't care WHO you are or WHAT you support, YOUR right to protest does not make it my RESPONSIBILITY to clean up after you. Pick up your crap when you are done and leave the place cleaner than when you arrived.
That doesn't COST you a cent necessarily--just pick up your own shit and put it in the trash or take it home with you. if you want clean up service, pay for it. Carry your sign in and carry it out.
Are we so stupid to think that it is somehow right to leave a mess just because you want to protest?
Again, I get the symbolism of leaving signs at Trump's hotel. Fine. Just make arrangements for some of the folks to stay behind an clean it up after you are done with the photo op or pay someone to do it.
I hate littering too. But just like the need for extra security, it's an unfortunate result of large crowds gathering. You can either have peaceful assembly be a constitutional right, or require a permit and hold someone responsible for the expenses incurred. Russia likes to do the latter.
I hope people were as considerate as possible yesterday, but when you have a body-to-body crowd of nearly 500k packed into a small space things are going to happen. A friend was in DC and said his sign was accidentally knocked out of his hand, and immediately trampled and lost in the crowd.
Sean Spicer didn't lie, he used "alternative facts."
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!
Quote: gamerfreakHe formed the progressive party after he was in office, and lost the nomination to another Republican.
Because he was a Leftist. No hero of mine. He intentionally split the conservative vote and guaranteed a Wilson victory, one of the worst presidents in history.
It depends on the changes. Trump recently talked about an ACA replacement that would cover everyone with lower-cost health insurance. Lots of people are in favor of that, including me, and I hope he succeeds in bringing that about. But Trump has also talked about (and subsequently not disavowed) a Muslim registry, and that's one of the scariest things I've heard from a politician in a long time. We all know what has happened in the past when members of a religion were forced to register with a government that wanted to "keep tabs" on them:Quote: gamerfreakI'll even go further to say I hope that Trump and the repubs do well and make meaningful changes. I mean who wouldn't want that?
Still others in his organization would prefer to dictate social policy based on a particular religious dogma rather than the will of the people, and that will have chilling effects on both education and science funding. Anti-science politics is making the American education system a laughingstock around the world. While we're having the debate about whether the Bible should or should not permit us to teach evolution in grade school, the rest of the industrialized world is teaching its children how to become scientifically literate and make educated conclusions based on objective, observable and repeatable experimentation. Not here. In the U.S., we still have a significant percentage of citizens who don't believe the observable evidence for climate change because righteous political leaders like Marco Rubio have told them addressing it would be "job-killing."
In his inaugural address, Donald Trump spoke of the "American carnage" by decrying "an education system, flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge." If he truly means it, he will not favor the pro-ignorance policies that so many of his new partymates have been trying to shove down our throats for so many decades.
Quote: ams288Kellyanne Conway on Meet the Press:
Sean Spicer didn't lie, he used "alternative facts."
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!
Kinda like people who want to go backwards but call themselves progressive. Newspeak.
Quote: ams288Kellyanne Conway on Meet the Press:
Sean Spicer didn't lie, he used "alternative facts."
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!
Comrade Conway was supporting the new propaganda minister.
Okay, but that's a cash-flow problem, not a tax problem. I admit that I haven't been in the hourly-wage workforce in over 25 years, but I used to increase my exemptions on the W-4 form to compensate. If someone has a steady income, there's no reason they should ever have a refund at the end of the year. Getting a refund is a sign of overwithholding, and overwithholding means you gave the government a free loan. Someone who makes $30k/year can't afford to tie up their money like that. If your employees are struggling with that, a little effort on your part to adjust their withholding might (a) save them the hassle of withholding too much and (b) get them more encouraged to put in the overtime that would help them get ahead. That's a win-win even if you have to minimize withholding and help them file quarterly estimated payments (1040-ES).Quote: BozYou are forgetting how weekly tax is calculated. I figured this would come up and I thank you for putting it out there. They are taxed weekly based on that weeks potential income level on an annual basis, thus putting them in the 28% bracket for the week. Yes, they will end up with a higher refund and get most of the money back but most don't see it that way. They only see that they are not getting the extra 50% on their check. It's not ignorance, it the reality of how they see it.
But that has little to do with a progressive tax structure, and that was your chief complaint. The bigger question is how would you propose to fix the tax system?
Quote: BozYou are forgetting how weekly tax is calculated. I figured this would come up and I thank you for putting it out there. They are taxed weekly based on that weeks potential income level on an annual basis, thus putting them in the 28% bracket for the week. Yes, they will end up with a higher refund and get most of the money back but most don't see it that way. They only see that they are not getting the extra 50% on their check. It's not ignorance, it the reality of how they see it.
It's still ignorance on their part about how the tax withholding system works. I've had this argument with my gf a lot when she picks up work that counts as overtime, plus a $20/hr bonus. She often worries about the taxes taken out and is hesitant to pick up more than an extra 12 hours in a week. But she loves to ignore that ~$60/hr rate to begin with. She gets a bit underpaid as a nurse normally, imo, but not on the $60/hr days!
But boz, I was way out of line and you deserve an apology. You are talented at getting under others skin, idk if you enjoy that or not. But that is my problem and find a more productive way of dealing with it. Plenty of dive bars every where, I'm sure your bar isn't a dive and is nice, it's obvious you take a lot of pride in it. That is all.
Build a cleaning machine (like a roomba of sorts) that is fueled with diesel, dolphin fins, kitten paws, and red wood trees. The machine should be made as inneficiently as possible. This way, when the dirty hippies leave a bunch of trash everywhere, SuperRoomba(tm) is used to clean the streets. The more SR is used to clean the streets, the more diesel is used, dolphins & kittens & red woods die. Because the hippies are most likely the "economical" type and PETA supporters, they might decide not to litter in the future.
Quote:WikiLeaks on Sunday urged people to submit President Donald Trump's tax returns so the organization could release them.
"Trump Counselor Kellyanne Conway stated today that Trump will not release his tax returns," WikiLeaks posted on Twitter.
Trump's breach of promise over the release of his tax returns is even more gratuitous than [Hillary] Clinton concealing her Goldman Sachs transcripts," the organization tweeted.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wikileaks-send-us-trumps-tax-returns-so-we-can-release-them/ar-AAm7rH8?ocid=spartanntp
Oh, I know:
You stupid Trumpers Anti-Trumpers keep hating on Hillary Clinton Trump for her email server his non-release of his tax return. When will you guys ever get over it? It's a thing of the past.
Bwahaha! *evil laugh*
#Making American Women Thin Again
I am already embarrassed to have him as President
I thought he would grow up
He is seething regarding the reported size of his inauguration crowd by the press
and
He tweets angrily towards the CIA comparing them to Nazi's, the press reports, he says the press is lying regarding his relationship with the CIA.
lol
Comrade Trump and his propaganda machine are now in control
Quote: MaxPenOn the bright side, Trump got more obese women out for a walk in one day than Michelle Obama did in 8 years.
#Making American Women Thin Again
I'm still not sure what the "women's march" was all about. They've got everything, what more could they want? In this country anyway. Equal rights, equal pay, and we will still hold the door open for them. What were they complaining about?
Quote: RSHmmm.....how to respond to "Trump's tax returns" ?
Oh, I know:
You stupid Trumpers Anti-Trumpers keep hating on Hillary Clinton Trump for her email server his non-release of his tax return. When will you guys ever get over it? It's a thing of the past.
Bwahaha! *evil laugh*
Being actually proud your candidate won't release information he should've released is a whole 'nother level of stupid.
Quote: rxwine
Being actually proud your candidate won't release information he should've released is a whole 'nother level of stupid.
Maybe I'm out to lunch, but I've been playing more video poker lately than watching the news. I thought he was going to release the tax returns when the audit was over. Is the audit over? I'm serious, I'm not playing dumb.
Quote: bobbartopMaybe I'm out to lunch, but I've been playing more video poker lately than watching the news. I thought he was going to release the tax returns when the audit was over. Is the audit over? I'm serious, I'm not playing dumb.
Kellyann's answer doesn't make it sound like it. Though I don't know if they specifically mentioned after the audit. The audit has to end eventually though.
Quote:In an interview on ABC’s “This Week,” Conway was pressed on whether the White House will respond to more than 200,000 petition signatures calling on Trump to release his tax returns.
“The White House response is that he’s not going to release his tax returns,” Conway said.
“We litigated this all through the election. People didn’t care,” she said. “They voted for him, and let me make this very clear: Most Americans are very focused on what their tax returns will look like while President Trump is in office, not what his look like.
http://eyewitness101.com/2017/01/22/conway-trump-will-not-release-tax-returns/
Quote: bobbartopI'm still not sure what the "women's march" was all about. They've got everything, what more could they want? In this country anyway. Equal rights, equal pay, and we will still hold the door open for them. What were they complaining about?
For 8 years, no one protested the wars their 'hero' and 'heroine' waged upon
poor women and children and sovereign nations ...or any number of other travesties by the Obama administration .....but they show up enmasse to protest a guy they don't like. Are they protesting the over 1030 seats they lost under Obama, governorships, representatives, and senators? No.....just the man.
From the marchers perspective......I'd rather wear a pretty pink hat and express my feelings.....not quite sure why I am protesting, but it sure feels good to express!' 'I liked Obama....he said nice things.' (no follow through, and full of lies, but it sounded nice) 'We should have had a woman president! She deserved it!' (for endless murder and mayhem, yes, nice gal).
I hope these people are done with their 5 stages of grief now, and can act like adults, stop being pawns or fodder for the elite they are representing. But I am not counting on it, as the monies from the invested interests will continue to stir the pot and they will all respond like Pavlov's dog.
Quote: rxwineQuote: RSHmmm.....how to respond to "Trump's tax returns" ?
Oh, I know:
You stupid Trumpers Anti-Trumpers keep hating on Hillary Clinton Trump for her email server his non-release of his tax return. When will you guys ever get over it? It's a thing of the past.
Bwahaha! *evil laugh*
Being actually proud your candidate won't release information he should've released is a whole 'nother level of stupid.
I never said I was proud my candidate wouldn't release his tax returns. If women can say "my body, my decision" when it comes to abortion, Trump should be able to say, "my business, my decision".
It's not nice to call others stupid. :(
Quote: rxwineBeing actually proud your candidate won't release information he should've released is a whole 'nother level of stupid.
The bigger issue for me is that he lied.
He could have just said he was breaking with recent tradition and wasn't going to release them. He isn't obligated to do so.
But no, instead he lied, said he was going to release them but now he isn't.
It looks even more like he has something to hide, but that is really beside the point.
WikiLeaks is asking for his returns so they can release them.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/
Quote: MaxPenWhat really needs to happen is President Trump issuing an arrest order for the global terrorist George Soros. At least the Muslim woman in the NYT article is smart enough to see thru the BS.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/
This post deserves TWO "thankyou buttons".
Quote: rxwine
Being actually proud your candidate won't release information he should've released is a whole 'nother level of stupid.
His tax returns are no big deal, and I'll tell you why.
Trump has a lot of money. When you have a lot of money, you pay people to take care of it for you. The more money you have, the better the people you're able to hire.
With the way the current tax codes are, he probably paid next to nothing. Good for him. The average "stupid" person, as you like to call them, running around in pink pussy hats can't comprehend this.
BUT, what I am concerned about is his school records... which I read a few months back. They're available on line and are top notch.
But we never saw Obama's school records, did we?
That's because he applied for and received federal money as a foreign student.
Quote: MaxPenWhat really needs to happen is President Trump issuing an arrest order for the global terrorist George Soros. At least the Muslim woman in the NYT article is smart enough to see thru the BS.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/
What was the big reveal? I read it. Why is she surprised? What link does Soros have to terrorism?
She acts like she discovered something, somebody couldn't figure out already. It's not a news flash.
She doesn't want to be part of it. So what? Big deal, a lot of people didn't attend though a lot of people did.
Quote: rxwineWhat was the big reveal? I read it. Why is she surprised? What link does Soros have to terrorism?
She acts like she discovered something, somebody couldn't figure out already. It's not a news flash.
She doesn't want to be part of it. So what? Big deal, a lot of people didn't attend though a lot of people did.
I assume you're trolling but will answer, regardless.
Soros is engaged in sedition. His intent is to overthrow the US. He finances coups and crashes currencies for his own economic gain. His work in Ukraine has resulted in over 10K deaths and massive numbers of severe injuries, such as limbs blown off. Never mind the PTSD caused by all of this. Soros is a monster and he and every NGO he funds need to be banned - not because of political opinion but because of actions intended to overthrow the Unites States, its sovereignty, and it's constitution.
By the way, a lot of people didn't attend the inauguration because they already were part of history at a rally. It's kind of a one and done thing. Plus it was effing raining and a pain in the ass to attend due to threat levels from dealing with the so called peaceful treehuggers and stuff....lol....not to mention that 85% of the DC population are mind controlled puppets of the media. Trump has a lot of plunging to do in order to rid that cesspool. I lived there for years, so it is not speculation on my part.
